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6 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

From the UN's decision:

https://www.icj-cij.org/public/files/case-related/182/182-20220316-ORD-01-00-EN.pdf

THE COURT,
Indicates the following provisional measures:

(1) By thirteen votes to two,
The Russian Federation shall immediately suspend the military operations that it commenced
on 24 February 2022 in the territory of Ukraine;


IN FAVOUR: President Donoghue; Judges Tomka, Abraham, Bennouna, Yusuf, Sebutinde,
Bhandari, Robinson, Salam, Iwasawa, Nolte, Charlesworth; Judge ad hoc Daudet;
AGAINST: Vice-President Gevorgian; Judge Xue;


(2) By thirteen votes to two,
The Russian Federation shall ensure that any military or irregular armed units which may be
directed or supported by it, as well as any organizations and persons which may be subject to its
control or direction, take no steps in furtherance of the military operations referred to in point (1)
above;


IN FAVOUR: President Donoghue; Judges Tomka, Abraham, Bennouna, Yusuf, Sebutinde,
Bhandari, Robinson, Salam, Iwasawa, Nolte, Charlesworth; Judge ad hoc Daudet;
AGAINST: Vice-President Gevorgian; Judge Xue;


(3) Unanimously,
Both Parties shall refrain from any action which might aggravate or extend the dispute before
the Court or make it more difficult to resolve.


Done in English and in French, the English text being authoritative, at the Peace Palace,
The Hague, this sixteenth day of March, two thousand and twenty-two, in three copies, one of which
will be placed in the archives of the Court and the others transmitted to the Government of Ukraine
and the Government of the Russian Federation, respectively.


(Signed) Joan E. DONOGHUE,
President.


(Signed) Philippe GAUTIER,
Registrar.

Judge Xue  - Xue Hanqin is a Chinese jurist at the International Court of Justice.

Kirill Gevorgian - Ambassador of Russia to the Netherlands. On 8 February 2021, Kirill Gevorgian was elected Vice President of the Court, succeeding Xue Hanqin.
 
 
 

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2 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

The extremely vague addition of drones make me giddy.  Could we be sending some of our best flying stealth death robots to Ukraine?  The Migs might not be needed at all if that is the case.  Maybe the Migs were a red herring to get these into the field of battle.  

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1 minute ago, BamaATL said:

The extremely vague addition of drones make me giddy.  Could we be sending some of our best flying stealth death robots to Ukraine?  The Migs might not be needed at all if that is the case.  Maybe the Migs were a red herring to get these into the field of battle.  

Doubt we'd let our latest drone tech enter the fray as the risk it falls into Russian/Chinese hands is greater.  Probably older, but still effective options available.  

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2 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

The extremely vague addition of drones make me giddy.  Could we be sending some of our best flying stealth death robots to Ukraine?  The Migs might not be needed at all if that is the case.  Maybe the Migs were a red herring to get these into the field of battle.  

Well it would really matter who is flying them.  Something tells me our drone pilots are a bit more adept than their Ukrainian counterparts.

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5 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Doubt we'd let our latest drone tech enter the fray as the risk it falls into Russian/Chinese hands is greater.  Probably older, but still effective options available.  

Wouldn't have to be new shit to be a game changer, our 10 year stuff is remarkable.  

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9 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Well it would really matter who is flying them.  Something tells me our drone pilots are a bit more adept than their Ukrainian counterparts.

Is there anything stopping us from delivering them to the front lines to get a nice paint job and Ukrainian flag, then flying them ourselves from some base in Kansas or Colorado?  It’s not like they are physically tethered. 

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2 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Exactly.  Can you imagine a group of Predators armed with Hellfire missiles entering the space.  

This, Ukraine won't be the ones asking to have the airspace closed, the Russians will be begging for it to happen.  Hell, if those are in fact deployed, the Uke's will have air control in short order.  

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Is there anything stopping us from delivering them to the front lines to get a nice paint job and Ukrainian flag, then flying them ourselves from some base in Kansas or Colorado?  It’s not like they are physically tethered. 

That's another thing, prove it.  This is clandestine enough to work.  

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2 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

That's another thing, prove it.  This is clandestine enough to work.  

You know that if there’s drones in the space, russia will immediately assume we are flying them and accuse us.  So we might as well do it. Unless they can hack the system, they can’t prove it. 

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1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

So…the point of that is to say what? De-escalate a murderous fuck like Putin by making him feel safe? Hopefully, this will come in handy once he’s finished killing all Ukrainian citizens? 

No, as US Americans we tend to think about win-win situations and are willing to negotiate compromises to stop suffering.

Putin is the bully that manufactures conflict to get us to cede things he can't get any other way.  His regime is so corrupt that the economy can't convince anyone through normal means so they play the bully to take your lunch money today, your gas money next week and then your whole paycheck the next.  Manufacture a grievance or conflict and then extort the other side who wants peace.  The only thing that will make him stop is kicking his ass.

 

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1 minute ago, TexasEd said:

No, as US Americans we tend to think about win-win situations and are willing to negotiate compromises to stop suffering.

Putin is in the manufacture conflict to get us to cede things he can't get any pther way.  They are so corrupt that the economy can't convince so they play the bully to take your lunch money today, your gas money next week and then your whole paycheck the next.  Manufacture a grievance or conflict and then extort the other side who wants peace.  The only thing that will make him stop is kicking his ass.

 

And he gets to tell all his drones at home that he single-handedly beat the west and is making them  world champs. 

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26 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Judge Xue  - Xue Hanqin is a Chinese jurist at the International Court of Justice.

Kirill Gevorgian - Ambassador of Russia to the Netherlands. On 8 February 2021, Kirill Gevorgian was elected Vice President of the Court, succeeding Xue Hanqin.

 

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Putin appears to attack the oligarchs as a "fifth column." They are fleeing to Tel Aviv and Dubai trying to save themselves. I would expect that Putin's next step will be to condemn them by name & confiscate their companies in Russia. He seems as desperate as the oligarchs.

 

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37 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

just looked up that Russia has 1 million active troops and 2 million reserves.  He wants Syrians as cannon fodder, best to sacrifice them then his own guys, what a bum!

My opinion, based on my disgust with and contempt for the Syrian military, is that they won't so much be assault troops, as they would make good occupation forces (in Putin's mind) guarding convoys and villages that the Russians already stormed through. In that role they could exercise their natural talents of terrorizing civilians. Any who catch a bullet save one more Russian truck from getting surprised.

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15 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

NSIAP, but Gretta Vedler, the Russian model who went on a rant about Putin, who went missing about a year ago, found dead.  Stuffed into a suitcase.  

Yea but if you read the whole clickbait story her boyfriend admitted to doing it in a hotel and strangling her.  He was posting from her social media after her death to make it look like she was alive for a bit after. 

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18 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Put a Uke citizen in the pilots seat with an American looking over his shoulder telling him what buttons to push. 

I said earlier in the thread that we just ask the Ukes to give our pilots citizenship and then you can plausibly deny anything you want. I doubt anyone in Ukraine would be opposed to it.

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12 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Rats fleeing the ship

 

This dude has lost the fucking plot.  He goes on to say that he doesn’t mind if people have a villa in Miami or French Riviera, the problem is in their “mental state— they are not from here, they are not from Russia.”

Back at the end of the Cold War and start of independent Russia, some foreign policy wag called Russia “Upper Volta with rockets.”  The big story of this war, regardless of who wins, is going to be Russia’s accelerated decline.  

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7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

This dude has lost the fucking plot.  He goes on to say that he doesn’t mind if people have a villa in Miami or French Riviera, the problem is in their “mental state— they are not from here, they are not from Russia.”

Back at the end of the Cold War and start of independent Russia, some foreign policy wag called Russia “Upper Volta with rockets.”  The big story of this war, regardless of who wins, is going to be Russia’s accelerated decline.  

Going to start seeing people falling out of window accidents all over the place. 

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More random thoughts:

The important thing to remember, is that Russia is the junior partner on the other side. China backed them, hoping to set a template for how they would assimilate Taiwan- overwhelming military superiority, swooping in fast, and waving sanctions aside as the world is forced to accept the new normal. 

Russia fucked it up. It was supposed to be over in three days. It’s now over three weeks, and Russian progress is stalled.Ukraine is helped by NATO aid to Ukraine, in weapons and intelligence. Russia would like to escalate on the other side and call NATO out as an antagonist, but I bet China doesn’t want that (since they’re assisting Russia, and would be similarly entangled as a supporter and supplier).   

We should make it clear to China that ifRussia uses tactical nukes to subdueUkraine (as they have threatened), the US response will be to put defensive tactical nukes inTaiwan. 

China needs to put a leash on their dog.

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54 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

No, as US Americans we tend to think about win-win situations and are willing to negotiate compromises to stop suffering.

Putin is the bully that manufactures conflict to get us to cede things he can't get any other way.  His regime is so corrupt that the economy can't convince anyone through normal means so they play the bully to take your lunch money today, your gas money next week and then your whole paycheck the next.  Manufacture a grievance or conflict and then extort the other side who wants peace.  The only thing that will make him stop is kicking his ass.

 

Russia has now been exposed as a weak bully and needs to be treated as such.

 

They continually push the envelope blackmailing us with nuclear war.  Blackmailers NEVER stop. They always come back for more.

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