Русский корабль - иди нахуй

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Those Russian kilos are going to have to surface eventually to get food.  We know it, they know it and the p8 harassing them have kept them up for months now.  Their stress level is probably on tilt level.  

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https://www.wired.com/story/conti-ransomware-russia/

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2 hours ago, rpspeed said:

LONDON, March 19 (Reuters) - Russia said on Saturday it had used hypersonic Kinzhal (Dagger) missiles to destroy a large weapons depot in Ukraine's western Ivano-Frankivsk region. Russia's Interfax news agency said it was the first time Russia had deployed the hypersonic Kinzhal system since it sent its troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24.

2 hours ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

I wonder how many of those they actually have

1 hour ago, Eastwood said:

Russia pulling out the hypersonic weapons is insanely telling. Real world data on those things in actual combat scenarios is probably the most valuable military intel on the planet, right now.

If they are willing to risk letting the West get a look at them in combat, then that means that they are extremely desperate - generals are definitely under extreme pressure to give Putin some kind of results.

Also means that either they are running really low on their regular cruise missiles, or Ukraine really is shooting down their regular cruise missiles.

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36 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Lots of Russian super weapons fall somewhere between “vapor ware” and “disappointing” on the spectrum, inclusive. 

My favorite remains the MiG-25, which we believed was this Eastern Bloc super fighter capable of taking on anything in the skies.  We built an actual super fighter, the F-15, in response.  It turned out to be this hellacious hand welded rat rod of an interceptor, designed solely to shoot down bombers with gravity bombs that were really no longer the most important pillar of the nuclear triad.  A literal missile that you could sit on and kind of turn a little bit,

I love the MiG-25, to be clear. 

Yeah, like I said earlier, one of my favorite aircraft as a kid in the 80s, but a piece of shit with an engine life of 150 hours, and if pilots really opened them up, they would have to pull the engines after a single flight.

Designed to intercept the XB-70, which was canceled.  Still went into production 3 years after the XB-70 was canceled.  Emblematic of Soviet design - can do one task really well, but not a good well-rounded system, and Mach 3 was useless in combat/dogfighting, especially as air-to-air missiles rapidly started hitting Mach 4+.

Nice little video

 

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Or it could be a one and done use of the hype weapon in Ukraine.  Meant to send the message of, "You can't stop it and it can reach all of Europe."

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6 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

Or it could be a one and done use of the hype weapon in Ukraine.  Meant to send the message of, "You can't stop it and it can reach all of Europe."

Giving the West a look at it is an intelligence windfall.  More likely a problem of air superiority - Russia can't push its jets deep into Ukraine, and remember, the Brits and US are funneling longer-range air defense systems to Ukraine.

 

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Saw this earlier. Need to hit it again. Bridge is one thing, now fuck up the tracks. Wonder if they would like some portable plasma cutters? Also good for cutting up dead armor. 

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6 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Saw this earlier. Need to hit it again. Bridge is one thing, now fuck up the tracks. Wonder if they would like some portable plasma cutters? Also good for cutting up dead armor. 

Load-bearing though.  Trains transporting military hardware are heavy as fuck.

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Load-bearing though.  Trains transporting military hardware are heavy as fuck.

I know, but just make it a bit harder. Wonder if the Russians still have their track laying trains they used in WW2. 

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5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I know, but just make it a bit harder. Wonder if the Russians still have their track laying trains they used in WW2. 

 

those rails are f'd, they won't be reused 

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5 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I know, but just make it a bit harder. Wonder if the Russians still have their track laying trains they used in WW2. 

Ukraine has a different gauge that doesn't work with Russia.  They were blowing these bridges so that the Russians couldn't use captured Ukrainian trains.

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28 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Saw this earlier. Need to hit it again. Bridge is one thing, now fuck up the tracks. Wonder if they would like some portable plasma cutters? Also good for cutting up dead armor. 

I've been wondering what happens if you just take all the rail spikes out over a 200 meter span?

Edited March 19, 2022 by ShaggyBevo RIP

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Ukraine has a different gauge that doesn't work with Russia.  They were blowing these bridges so that the Russians couldn't use captured Ukrainian trains.

Ukraine uses broad gauge, the same as in Russia, Belarus, Finland, and (for a few more years) in the Baltics.  Standard gauge used in Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, Sweden, and further west.

That bridge could be repaired in 8 hours if Russia knows what it is doing.  Rails would be fine for temporary use, just under a speed slow order.

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10 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

I know, but just make it a bit harder. Wonder if the Russians still have their track laying trains they used in WW2. 

I read they have 8 rail engineering battalions due to their reliance on rail resupply. 

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6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Ukraine has a different gauge that doesn't work with Russia.  They were blowing these bridges so that the Russians couldn't use captured Ukrainian trains.

Ukraine still has lines with the RU wide rail left from the USSR days.

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Pull some rails, then mine that shit so when they go to repair...

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2 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

Ukraine uses broad gauge, the same as in Russia, Belarus, Finland, and (for a few more years) in the Baltics.  Standard gauge used in Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, Sweden, and further west.

That bridge could be repaired in 8 hours if Russia knows what it is doing.  Rails would be fine for temporary use, just under a speed slow order.

You're right, was thinking they had switched already.

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6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Ukraine has a different gauge that doesn't work with Russia.  They were blowing these bridges so that the Russians couldn't use captured Ukrainian trains.

Nope. Was all laid out by the Soviets. 

Ukraine -– unlike Western Europe -– uses the same gauge of railroad as Russia. That infrastructure, though, can’t be used to bring supplies until troops control the towns that sit on them, in particular key junctions such as Kharkiv, Sumy and Chernihiv in the north, or Kherson, Mykolaiv and Zaporizhzhia in the south. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-04/how-ukraine-s-rail-network-threw-russia-s-military-off-track

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3 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

I read they have 8 rail engineering battalions due to their reliance on rail resupply. 

So sniper targets you say? 

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Holy fuck.

 

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Just now, InkaUtexas said:

So sniper targets you say? 

Javelin versus a locomotive.  That's something the Russians couldn't just repair/replace

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2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

So sniper targets you say? 

switchblade drones on the engineers / supervisors 

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TLDR: The complete clusterfuck Russia committed itself to has led the numerically inferior Ukraine to defeat the Russian army in detail.

Russia has lost the war.

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3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Javelin versus a locomotive.  That's something the Russians couldn't just repair/replace

 

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2 hours ago, Eastwood said:

Russia pulling out the hypersonic weapons is insanely telling. Real world data on those things in actual combat scenarios is probably the most valuable military intel on the planet, right now.

The fact they're having to pull them out in Ukraine is crazy.  This is a proxy war and our proxy is doing WAY better than anyone expected.

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3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

switchblade drones on the engineers / supervisors 

 

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Javelin versus a locomotive.  That's something the Russians couldn't just repair/replace

Why not both? And they have plenty of locomotives, but personnel is where I think we can really do some damage. Was on an email chain with dad and a few of his SF buddies. They all are amazed by the lack of specialists and said the Russian Army has not learned shit on equipment maintenance or support since Afghanistan. Grozny was easy, since it was 1 target. 

Few of these dudes spent a lot of time in Eastern Europe in SF doing nothing but thinking about how to fuck up the Russians. I have an old Pellet gun. Made in West Germany stamped on the barrel. Some of the teams would use these to ping Soviet guards on the wall. Would not hurt them with their great coats, but fun target practice. 

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3 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

 

Can you imagine how long that table will be...

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Ongoing envelopment

 

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2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

does that help develop an intercept missile ?

Meh...hypersonic is an overused term by journos...

Every single ICBM is hypersonic pretty much after boost phase...we have ABMs to handle those and have had them since the 60s.  The PAC-3 was downselected in 1993 and went into service not long after that.  It can take down "hypersonic" missiles easily.  I left that world mid-90s so I know the badass tech we had then is probably dwarfed by what we have now.

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36 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Holy fuck.

 

so, help me...where's the line in all this? 

Illegal invasion?  No.

Murdering civilians as they escape?  No.

Bombing pregnant women and babies?  Apparently not.

Now relocating Ukranian people to "camps"?

Is the general public of the European countries and U.S. not pulling the govt hard enough?

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Edited March 19, 2022 by Zonahorn

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah, like I said earlier, one of my favorite aircraft as a kid in the 80s, but a piece of shit with an engine life of 150 hours, and if pilots really opened them up, they would have to pull the engines after a single flight.

Designed to intercept the XB-70, which was canceled.  Still went into production 3 years after the XB-70 was canceled.  Emblematic of Soviet design - can do one task really well, but not a good well-rounded system, and Mach 3 was useless in combat/dogfighting, especially as air-to-air missiles rapidly started hitting Mach 4+.

Nice little video

 

This is the most badass one they made.  You even had to think in Russian to fly it!!!!

Edited March 19, 2022 by Ag with kids

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So weird that Daly forgot how to hit and field in the same offseason. 

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25 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

Okay. Bye

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1 hour ago, Ag with kids said:

Meh...hypersonic is an overused term by journos...

Every single ICBM is hypersonic pretty much after boost phase...we have ABMs to handle those and have had them since the 60s.  The PAC-3 was downselected in 1993 and went into service not long after that.  It can take down "hypersonic" missiles easily.  I left that world mid-90s so I know the badass tech we had then is probably dwarfed by what we have now.

It's mainly about them flying hypersonic at a lower altitude than an ICBM. 

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2 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

I know, but just make it a bit harder. Wonder if the Russians still have their track laying trains they used in WW2. 

If they still have them, and if they work, the experienced crews have all been reassigned to rigging lights and sound for that Putin rally.

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14 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

It's mainly about them flying hypersonic at a lower altitude than an ICBM. 

Well, I don't think the journos actually know shit about them and they yada yada yada like they think they do.  Hypersonic just means they fly at a velocity of at least Mach 5...but it sure SOUNDS scary.

Yeah, hypersonic NON-ballistic missiles exist...and we've had those also since the 70s.  I worked on one in the mid 90s that was designed for anti-tank purposes.

If you think the damage from the Javelins looks bad, I give you the "hypersonic" LOSAT:

 

Edited March 19, 2022 by Ag with kids

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

That's some 100 Years of Solitude shit right there.

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6 minutes ago, Ag with kids said:

Well, I don't think the journos actually know shit about them and they yada yada yada like they think they do.

Yeah, hypersonic NON-ballistic missiles exist...and we've had those also since the 70s.  I worked on one in the mid 90s that was designed for anti-tank purposes.

If you think the damage from the Javelins looks bad, I give you the "hypersonic" LOSAT:

 

Did you get this from a MacGyver episode?

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47 minutes ago, Zonahorn said:

Okay. Bye

Damn shame as he would have liked to have seen Montana.  If it's any solace to his family, I'm eating a Big Montana sandwich from Arby's right now and going to send dic pics to his whole family celebrating his death.  And reminding them of the sandwich looking a lot like his widow's vagina which is now eligible for mourning-morning gangbangs from fellow Russian officers.  

I'd really like to see our country go on the propaganda offensive among the Russian public.  As you can see, I have a few initial thoughts.  Phase two basically just involves me reminding them that Germany is re-weaponizing and the motto of Berlin lately is "Third time's a charm." 

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