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11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Not a Kinzhal after all?

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44840/we-have-questions-about-russias-claimed-kinzhal-hypersonic-missile-use-in-ukraine

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The War Zone hasn't yet been able to geolocate the supposed target using commercial satellite imagery that matches what is seen in the video, which appears more like a large above-ground warehouse or barn. There’s also a distinct lack of secondary explosions as one would expect when rocket fuel and explosives cook-off. It’s still possible a Kinzhal hit the base, but the video is suspect at a minimum.

 

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UPDATE: 5:20 PM EST—

We can now say for certain that the strike depicted happened nowhere near the western part of the country and not at some major military weapons storage area. It happened at a heavily bombarded rural area in the far eastern area of Ukraine:

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With all this in mind, it is very unlikely we are seeing a Kinzhal missile being used in the video. Whether or not one was used at all, we cannot answer that. Maybe there was another target somewhere, but this was not it. 

 

[MillerEP 30,306]

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[conVINCEd 21,468]

5 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

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If these military tribunals occur, there needs to be some very serious consequences for anyone presiding over them.

[atomheartbevo 89,285]

whole thread worth reading

And another thread 

 

[CHIEF 5,050]

1 hour ago, Nivek said:

It would be pretty funny if Ukraine ends up annexing territories formerly of Russia though.

Don't think they will attack outside their borders, but would take as much territory in the Crimea, and Eastern Ukraine as they could possibly hold.

NATO backed its welterweight against the heavyweight. We helped the welterweight put on a few "pounds" to make it a fair fight. I don't think that is unreasonable. Up to this point, NATO just wants this to be a fair fight, no hits under the belt. The heavyweight is hitting them in the balls, and asking their buddies to jump in. 

CHIEF

Edited March 21, 2022 by CHIEF
comma

[TexasEd 8,054]

7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

save those expensive munitions. Very easy to disable those lifeless tanks 

Tractors are waiting for the tanks

2 hours ago, immamac said:

this is psycho talk. 

motto worthy

[GringoSalado 1,639]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

UT football over the last 10 years has really messed with the minds of some folks and now they are ready to take us into a nuclear war.

I'm ready. Omelet-eggs and whatnot. What's a little fallout? Wind blows towards Oklahoma.

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6 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

If these military tribunals occur, there needs to be some very serious consequences for anyone presiding over them.

you may rest assured that as long as Russia has nukes and China, not one goddamned consequence for Russian leadership will come of it.  Unless you consider a strongly worded letter and confiscated yachts consequences. 

[956 Worldwide 34,175]

15 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yeah.  At this point, Ukraine needs to just keep destroying Russians and their vehicles inside of Ukraine, and NATO needs to keep up the supplies.

If Belarus actually commits to trying to drive to Lviv, they'll get torn apart even faster than the Russians in Eastern Ukraine are now since they will be facing fresh troops that have been waiting around for Belarus to attack (and that will have been monitoring Belarus's troops every step of the way), and that will suck up vehicles and supplies from Belarus that the Russians could have used to backfill their losses in Eastern Ukraine.

I'm still iffy about whether Belarus will even commit or not.  He needs his military to stay in power, and Russia is gonna need those supplies/vehicles at some point.

If Belarus decided to join I think that a targeted Allied strike on the forces joining the fight would be a interesting— and realistic if risky— response.  Belarus and Russia cooperate but they do not have a mutual defense agreement like Article 5.  A long distance strike, if it could be done without targeting Russian forces, would demonstrate the consequences of joining the fight while also making clear that it’s not Allied opportunism to grab Belarus or instigate regime change. 

[956 Worldwide 34,175]

7 hours ago, conVINCEd said:

If these military tribunals occur, there needs to be some very serious consequences for anyone presiding over them.

They’re going to occur. I feel like this is one of those threats that’s pretty cost free to implement and Putin has a pattern of doing the terrible things he says he will.  And the Russians badly need to find some Nazis to show the world. So I think this will happen to any Mariupol defender left alive, and likely any Mariupol local politician. 
 

And this is interesting because the reality is that Azov is in Mariupol and we know that Azov has lots of neo-Nazi types in its ranks. But here’s the deal— they’ve written a lot of horrible shit online, and have gross tattoos and contemptible private opinions. But they haven’t DONE any Nazi shit.  No war crimes against minorities. No abuses of civilians. No illegal tactics.   The worst you can actually pin on them is filming POWs, and that’s pretty weak sauce under the Conventions. Misdemeanor level by analogy. 

And they have every right to fight and defend Mariupol as official, uniformed elements of Ukraine’s military. 
 

So we will see what actual charges will be thrown against them. My guess is they’ll be falsely accused of using human shields to try and dance around Russia’s own war crimes.  So in Mariupol you have some dudes with neo-Nazi opinions behaving legally and the “anti-Nazi” Russians actually doing all the crimes.  Schrodinger’s fascists, I guess. 

[Scheiss Meister 8,373]

Based on their performance to date, and assuming that they have enough forces, I imagine that Ukraine has anticipated Belarus joining the shindig, and has arranged a suitable welcome for their forces.

[Bevo 13,465]

33 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

If Belarus decided to join I think that a targeted Allied strike on the forces joining the fight would be a interesting— and realistic if risky— response.  Belarus and Russia cooperate but they do not have a mutual defense agreement like Article 5.  A long distance strike, if it could be done without targeting Russian forces, would demonstrate the consequences of joining the fight while also making clear that it’s not Allied opportunism to grab Belarus or instigate regime change. 

The Belarus army sucks and is totally unmotivated. And it gives the West a great opportunity to end the war. I think a joint operation with volunteers and the Ukranian army could cut the advance pretty quickly if we prepared (when we first heard about it 3 weeks back). Since the Belarus population is not pro-Russian and doesn't like its leader, I would suspect that there would be an uprising there. What would Russia do then? It would have to divert troops.

[956 Worldwide 34,175]

The United States needs to announce a comprehensive program for Russians willing to defect. Target officers, soldiers, and people with technical skills or working in key industries. 

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3,867]

Damn allergies.

The girl that sang Let it Go in the Kyiv bomb shelter was the opener of a benefit concert in Poland singing the Ukraine national anthem. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10635301/Ukraines-Let-girl-seven-sings-national-anthem-Polish-stadium-fleeing-Kyiv.html#v-5918275136180632621

[Scheiss Meister 8,373]

She has a sweet voice and real talent.  I hope that the world hears a lot more from her.

[Parliament 14,062]

3.3MM refugees.  How many of them are getting moved to other countries?  Is the US taking many?

[Orange&White 5,510]

35 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The United States needs to announce a comprehensive program for Russians willing to defect. Target officers, soldiers, and people with technical skills or working in key industries. 

This should have been done three weeks ago.

[atomheartbevo 89,285]

 

[F250 28,597]

42 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The United States needs to announce a comprehensive program for Russians willing to defect. Target officers, soldiers, and people with technical skills or working in key industries. 

[atomheartbevo 89,285]

 

[atomheartbevo 89,285]

Owning the Ukrainians 

 

[atomheartbevo 89,285]

Don’t have the troops to take Odessa, so start destroying it

 

[atomheartbevo 89,285]

Tying into an earlier comment,  his kids can now be raised by a middle-aged American that his widow will meet online.  He’s on contract so don’t feel sorry for him.

 

 

[Pescado_Rojo 19,282]

22 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Don’t have the troops to take Odessa, so start destroying it

 

Odesa seems like a good place to get some real world data from the Marine Corps new NMESIS platform. 

[atomheartbevo 89,285]

Some serious accusations

 

[atomheartbevo 89,285]

 

[Parliament 14,062]

24 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Some serious accusations

 

Right out of the Czars' book.

We know none of these guys will ever be punished for their war crimes.  But if they WERE, what would they get?  Death?

Edited March 21, 2022 by Parliament

[BabaYaga 15,189]

Good

 

[Longhornlove 4,765]

10 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Good

 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,487]

2 hours ago, Parliament said:

3.3MM refugees.  How many of them are getting moved to other countries?  Is the US taking many?

So... I "know" one person from Ukraine, a model that has done some work for my company. No pics, I'm not doxxing her or me. I sent her $1000 to help get her and her family out of Kharkiv. She made it to Poland along with 2 million other refugees, where she reported that there are no apartments to rent and no jobs. She moved on to Croatia this weekend for hopefully greener pastures. I imagine this is taking place all over Europe but it's a fucking haul to get to the US. Also.... my great grandparents immigrated to the US from Khiv. I never met them, but I owe them more than I could ever imagine.

[Parliament 14,062]

As hard up as we are for workers in the US, you'll think companies would be trying to get them here.  (No CR)

[956 Worldwide 34,175]

Russia is trying to lure people back home. I know personally of one academic who starred a fellowship in Central Europe the weekend before his ATM and credit cards got turned off.  A former participant in a U.S. government exchange program.  Yeah, he’s not going back.

“All citizens of Russia studying abroad who have been confronted with a violation of their rights can return to Russia and continue their studies at leading universities in the Russian Federation…(list of Moscow and St. Petersburg schools)

 

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3,867]

Taiwan team Ramjet donates $35K in drones. 

[Kel Varnsen 8,374]

Is Bert a common Taiwanese name?

[Parliament 14,062]

I bet the Taiwanese have a vested interest in Ukraine right now.  The better Ukraine does, the less likely China is to FAFO.

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3,867]

6 minutes ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Is Bert a common Taiwanese name?

I for one look forward to Ramjet's new Bert material. I can't stop giggling about how they made it look like a pissed off insect crossed with a shark.

Edited March 21, 2022 by ShaggyBevo RIP

[Longhornlove 4,765]

7 minutes ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Is Bert a common Taiwanese name?

[BabaYaga 15,189]

10 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Taiwan team Ramjet donates $35K in drones. 

Homeboy on the right has less altruistic reasons for the drones working

Cash money homey

[crash_davis 23,071]

3 minutes ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Is Bert a common Taiwanese name?

Taiwanese and Chinese who have English names usually have very proper British sounding English names, not the US Western or fancy spelling names of that the US parents like to name their kids. There are no Dylan, Dillon, Dyllon, Dylan, Dyllyn, Brooklin, Brooklyn, Brookln, Dakota, Wyoming, and shit in Chinese and Taiwanese English names.

Many William, Constance, Wilbert, Henry, Elizabeths. Hardly any one syllable names. One syllable names are for stupid kids. Ergo, I'm scratching my head at Bert. Maybe he's trying to dumb down for his American counterparts?

[Longhornlove 4,765]

16 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Taiwan team Ramjet donates $35K in drones. 

[BabaYaga 15,189]

LOL

 

[Trey3216 15,314]

17 minutes ago, Kel Varnsen said:

Is Bert a common Taiwanese name?

I mean, they keep their pants held up with something, right? 

[956 Worldwide 34,175]

10 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Taiwanese and Chinese who have English names usually have very proper British sounding English names, not the US Western or fancy spelling names of that the US parents like to name their kids. There are no Dylan, Dillon, Dyllon, Dylan, Dyllyn, Brooklin, Brooklyn, Brookln, Dakota, Wyoming, and shit in Chinese and Taiwanese English names.

Many William, Constance, Wilbert, Henry, Elizabeths. Hardly any one syllable names. One syllable names are for stupid kids. Ergo, I'm scratching my head at Bert. Maybe he's trying to dumb down for his American counterparts?

Did some detective work and may have found a clue in bold. 

[crash_davis 23,071]

Just now, 956 Worldwide said:

Did some detective work and may have found a clue in bold. 

that was on purpose.

[gsoda3 3,209]

28 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Taiwanese and Chinese who have English names usually have very proper British sounding English names, not the US Western or fancy spelling names of that the US parents like to name their kids. There are no Dylan, Dillon, Dyllon, Dylan, Dyllyn, Brooklin, Brooklyn, Brookln, Dakota, Wyoming, and shit in Chinese and Taiwanese English names.

Many William, Constance, Wilbert, Henry, Elizabeths. Hardly any one syllable names. One syllable names are for stupid kids. Ergo, I'm scratching my head at Bert. Maybe he's trying to dumb down for his American counterparts?

the british don't have a connection to taiwan.  perhaps you're confusing taiwan and hong kong.  i know many taiwanese - both my parents' generation (60 and 70 y.o.) and my generation (30 and 40 year olds) who have one syllable english names.  

[Js1 84,934]

23 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Did some detective work and may have found a clue in bold. 

Hey I know a guy from Taiwan who is an Albert.  

[GringoSalado 1,639]

4 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

And this is interesting because the reality is that Azov is in Mariupol and we know that Azov has lots of neo-Nazi types in its ranks. But here’s the deal— they’ve written a lot of horrible shit online, and have gross tattoos and contemptible private opinions. But they haven’t DONE any Nazi shit.  

[crash_davis 23,071]

8 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

the british don't have a connection to taiwan.  perhaps you're confusing taiwan and hong kong.  i know many taiwanese - both my parents' generation (60 and 70 y.o.) and my generation (30 and 40 year olds) who have one syllable english names.  

well then no wonder China wants to invade Taiwan.

[CooterBrown 17,807]

So... I "know" one person from Ukraine, a model that has done some work for my company. No pics, I'm not doxxing her or me. I sent her $1000 to help get her and her family out of Kharkiv. She made it to Poland along with 2 million other refugees, where she reported that there are no apartments to rent and no jobs. She moved on to Croatia this weekend for hopefully greener pastures. I imagine this is taking place all over Europe but it's a fucking haul to get to the US. Also.... my great grandparents immigrated to the US from Khiv. I never met them, but I owe them more than I could ever imagine.

You should cross post in the Sugar Babies thread. Airfare to the US would be covered by lunchtime.