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I think we just have entered the making money phase of this war. Everyone can give their still better than the Russian trash stuff to Ukraine and buy the 2nd hand restored good shit. Then US can cycle in the best and whatnot. War machine heart still seems to tick. 

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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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16 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think we just have entered the making money phase of this war. Everyone can give their still better than the Russian trash stuff to Ukraine and buy the 2nd hand restored good shit. Then US can cycle in the best and whatnot. War machine heart still seems to tick. 

 Next question is what kind of pricing do they get from us or whomever for gas, and for how long. 
 

it feels like they are asking for substantial long term price certainty to endure the pain of transitioning. 
 

and russia may not care, as I think it still has China and India as large customers to keep their prices from crashing. 

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8 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

This explains why there has been a collective meh on the Russian gas cut off.

Fuck you. We gonna get it somewhere else.

I can’t say that there’s been a collective meh.  This issue has been dominating the European coverage and there’s a lot of pressure for European leaders to “do something.” What there isn’t is a collective resignation to cave to Russia’s demands. But it’s going to take some political capital to keep holding the line.

I see these moves as Russia shooting its hostages. The threat isn’t any good once you’ve carried it out, and it makes your counterparty less likely to listen to you. 

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3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I can’t say that there’s been a collective meh.  This issue has been dominating the European coverage and there’s a lot of pressure for European leaders to “do something.” What there isn’t is a collective resignation to cave to Russia’s demands. But it’s going to take some political capital to keep holding the line.

I see these moves as Russia shooting its hostages. The threat isn’t any good once you’ve carried it out, and it makes your counterparty less likely to listen to you. 

Yeah, I am seeing it from half a world away. Calling it meh is underselling. But, I don't see them going to the streets either. I guess we'll see who can hold out. 

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1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

Yeah, I am seeing it from half a world away. Calling it meh is underselling. But, I don't see them going to the streets either. I guess we'll see who can hold out. 

But also, sometimes shooting hostages works, if you’re trying to get the other hostages to hand stuff over. 
 

 

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16 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

But also, sometimes shooting hostages works, if you’re trying to get the other hostages to hand stuff over. 
 

 

Can someone post the full article? I reached my free article limit

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10 hours ago, Blotto said:

https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insights/latest-news/natural-gas/040622-political-will-can-lead-to-accelerated-lng-import-terminal-deployment-gie

 

Isnt compression plant capacity a bigger issue?  I thought that there had been posts already stating that 100% of US compression was already booked up.  Where are they gonna get this LNG to boil off in those FRSUs?

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Isnt compression plant capacity a bigger issue?  I thought that there had been posts already stating that 100% of US compression was already booked up.  Where are they gonna get this LNG to boil off in those FRSUs?

Both are issues, but as I understand (my dad is a long-time natural gas guy) the compression stations are the bigger issues.  You can offload directly from the LNG ship and let the product return to a gas state in other ways, but there's no getting around the need for compression.

That said, it's a global security issue.  Every dollar/ruble we deprive Russia of making is a dollar/ruble that no longer feeds their war machine.  It's in our national interest to supply Europe with as much gas as possible, so we should be moving forward on compression as a wartime measure.

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Can someone post the full article? I reached my free article limit

Not much info, they dont name the companies

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Four European gas buyers have already paid for supplies in rubles as President Vladimir Putin demanded, according to a person close to Russian gas giant Gazprom PJSC.

Even if the other buyers reject the Kremlin’s terms, more cutoffs after the halt in gas flows to Poland and Bulgaria Wednesday aren’t likely until the second half of May when the next payments are due, the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss confidential matters.

Ten European companies have already opened the accounts at Gazprombank needed to meet Russia’s payment demands, the person said. 

Supplies to Poland and Bulgaria were cut off after they refused Gazprom’s proposed mechanism for ruble payments, which the gas giant says does not violate European Union sanctions, according to the person. Russia supplies gas via pipelines to 23 European countries.

After the EU imposed sanctions on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine, Moscow demanded that it be paid in rubles for shipments starting April 1. But the bloc told member states that the mechanism the Kremlin proposed, which required opening euro and ruble accounts with state-controlled Gazprombank, would violate the sanctions. 

 

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Just now, BearSchlong said:

When I was an exchange student in Lithuania in Jan 1992, the family with whom I was living had stockpiles of Reichmarks and Rubles, because you just never know who might be in charge one day.

Seems like the Ukrainians went with the "have a stockpile of 7.62 ammo" approach instead.  Good approach for them.

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29 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Both are issues, but as I understand (my dad is a long-time natural gas guy) the compression stations are the bigger issues.  You can offload directly from the LNG ship and let the product return to a gas state in other ways, but there's no getting around the need for compression.

That said, it's a global security issue.  Every dollar/ruble we deprive Russia of making is a dollar/ruble that no longer feeds their war machine.  It's in our national interest to supply Europe with as much gas as possible, so we should be moving forward on compression as a wartime measure.

Seems to me the short term goal should be to massively expand the existing export terminals like Sabine Pass since the pipeline infrastructure and ROWs are already there. Long term, we should build a bunch of these and the supporting pipelines along the east coast. I'm guessing that's easier said than done, since West Austin NIMBYs ain't got shit on East Coast NIMBYs. 

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25 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

First I lost Moskva, then I lost Paris, now I'm losing Berlin.

 

 

A take on Leonard Cohen? 

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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Before fake news of Russian propaganda is spread further here. Of course, OMV will continue to pay for gas deliveries from Russia in euros. Austria is sticking to the jointly agreed EU sanctions to the point and comma.

^The rubles think may be Russian propaganda

 

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16 minutes ago, Bevo said:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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Read like "First we'll take Manhattan, then we'll take Berlin."

 

 

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Just now, Parliament said:

That and they took their military training real serious.

Russia already invading you in 2014 tends to get your attention.  It was easy for the rest of us to forget that Ukraine has been at low-level war with Russia for 8 years, and they damned well spent that time getting ready for Act II.

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25 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

Before fake news of Russian propaganda is spread further here. Of course, OMV will continue to pay for gas deliveries from Russia in euros. Austria is sticking to the jointly agreed EU sanctions to the point and comma.

^The rubles think may be Russian propaganda

 

The devil is in the details on the ruble thing. Here’s how the scheme works: clients open accounts in both currencies and then deposit foreign currency (Euro) into Gazprombank which is specially set up only for this purpose. Gazprombank then converts the Euros into rubles for payment.

Some EU members say that this scheme meets sanctions requirements of “paying in euro.”

 

https://www.bruegel.org/2022/04/a-sanctions-counter-measure-gas-payments-to-russia-in-rubles/

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4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How is that different than paying in euros the normal way and having their bank exchange it?

The article lays it out because there are a few steps but basically— the Russian state (Bank of Russia) is sanctioned and can’t conduct euro transactions.  Gazprombank is not. That means that the euro deposited into Gazprombank is frozen there, the Russian state can’t access it or convert it to rubles to use at home. 
 

 

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In Russia declared that aren't going to carry out an exchange of Medvedchuk on military ZSU, - the spokesman of the president of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov

Another rocket was shot down near the Dnieper

Australia hands over six 155-mm M777 howitzers to Ukraine

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Both are issues, but as I understand (my dad is a long-time natural gas guy) the compression stations are the bigger issues.  You can offload directly from the LNG ship and let the product return to a gas state in other ways, but there's no getting around the need for compression.

That said, it's a global security issue.  Every dollar/ruble we deprive Russia of making is a dollar/ruble that no longer feeds their war machine.  It's in our national interest to supply Europe with as much gas as possible, so we should be moving forward on compression as a wartime measure.

Maybe there's no way LNG helps the current situation, but I see it as a long-term thing. "The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, the second best time is today." European leaders would have to be fucking braindead beyond belief (a distinct possibility, I'll admit) to ever return to the Russian teat after this. I mean Fucking. Braindead.

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