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6 hours ago, dimyh said:

 

I call this thing the Seversky Donets boat ride

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Part 3 from Viktor https://justpaste.it/4y5en

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Viktor Shayga Part 3 Draft

Dmitri @Dmitri · 1h

I consider it important to say how the humanitarian aid collected for our army is distributed. Even back at home I suspected that very little reaches the frontline directly. Even back in my unit in Valuyki I found that conscripts who were delivering humanitarian aid to our unit to Ukraine stole from it three crates of canned meat and sold it in our unit for 70 rubles each. They also stole three crates with cigarettes. Cigarettes that normally cost 187 rubles, they were selling for 100. I also personally saw how in the regiment's headquarters, a woman who worked there was eating "Roshen" candy from a big crate. As far as I understand that was meant to go straight to the frontlines, but it never did. One can only wonder how many crates like that with sweets, canned food, condensed milk are stolen in the Valuyki unit by every man and his dog... People who saw it also told me how in Izyum, those who always stayed in the rears jumped like jackals on crates with aid from some Russian region. This aid was also meant for the frontlines. They pulled out and gutted everything - they took all the chocolate, canned foods, good cigarettes, all the good clothes - they left all the worst and unneeded, including the worst cigarettes. In the end, from a whole truck only three crates survived - one was sent to our 752nd regiment, another to Bogychary, the shoved the last one somewhere... Those who saw these rear bastards going through items said it was a very disgusting this to see from outside...

 

I was at the frontline. Thank God, we always had food, but never had good cigarettes. They simply never reached us. We didn't have basic raincoats, either. Once it rained heavily for three days and we all were soaked, we slept soaked, we stood guard soaked...

 

It's important to note another tragic issue. Many volunteer guys scattered around the forests after those insane assaults by our unit. They fled because they were immediately thrown into battle and they didn't even know each other all that well. I've heard they now wander in the forests in small groups, not letting anyone approach them. If someone yells at them - 'We're yours!', they start shooting anyway. What was it like for these people? Wandering around these forest, cold and hungry, always afraid of getting into the hands of these Ukrainian subhumans... Who will answer for this?

 

In early May I found that one of our PMC (Private Military Co) had an objective of collecting such people in the forests and fields of our area (Well, this probably is an accompanying task for them; aside from that I think their main objective is fighting Ukrainian saboteurs). They picked up two of our guys in shrubbery near Suligovka... They fed them, gave new uniforms since after two weeks in Suligovka their uniform completely worn out, and brought them to Izyum. 

 

Another thing. In early May two FSB officers came to us. A Major and A Lieutenant. I believe they are from the FSB department for armed forces. I don't know if they belong to this division or not. They were very polite. They tried very politely to return us to the frontline. I said that we are basically thrown into a senseless slaughters. The Lieutenant said they knew of all this. I said it wasn't just us who refused to assault Dolgen'koye, the spetsnaz also refused to assault this village. He answered that 'They know and they are working on it as well'. He said 'We do not judge any of you (who refused)'. He said it multiple times. Then, on 6 May the FSB Colonel arrived. One fella said he heard him talking about us: '20 people are thrown into attacks like meat'. I just don't understand how this makes sense - if FSB knows about all this, why aren't they taking any measures to root out this horror?! Or is that considered normal?! Or is it just, how it often happens in Russia, everyone's covering each others since they are all friends, comrades, relatives, drinking buddies, co-thieves?! For instance, this FSB colonel's daughter could be married (or in a relationship) with my former division commander's son. So the case is not moving... It's all sad, of course...

 

It's also important to note, I have personally heard, how in the regional contract selection office one of the instructors was blatantly lying to a grown man that they needed a driver to chauffeur the division commander, having previously found whether he had a B or C driving license level. He did it because no one wanted to be a driver since they were very often killed. Also, speaking to guys from other regions of Russia I found that many were told in the enlistment offices that they would not be serving in enlistment offices, but will be the second echelon troops guarding checkpoints, escorting convoys, guarding cities and villages already taken by us in the rears. Although, I clearly realised I could end up on the frontline, including in the assault group... Also some (myself included) were told we will be in Ukraine from two weeks to a month, and then we'd be taken out to Russia for 10 days to rest. But that also was a lie. Specifically in our division there was no rotation. Volunteers on a contract who entered Ukraine on 24 February are still there and never left to Russia. Same for us - if we stayed, we would be there until the end of our contracts, so for half a year until September. 

 

Those volunteer contractors who came after us, many of them (if not all) did not even pass the medical examination. When I came back home I watched a few videos wit Igor Strelkov. He spoke in particular about the criminal mobilisation that was conducted in LPR and DPR when people without any proper training or coordination were sent into battle. He said they did not even do this in the first, most difficult months of the Great Patriotic War - people were given at least a bit of time to train and get to know each other... at least one week! Since if it's not done, this leads to massive losses... And this lead to large losses of the mobilised in Donetsk and Luhansk, Strelkov said. For a mobilisation like those in the leadership who allowed this must be shot, Strelkov said. He also said that such mobilisation kills the 'Golden fund' of Russia since those who did not hide from enlistment officers are the most decent and honest people... He also said that this treatment where people are sent into slaughter ruins all the motivation for people to serve and help motherland in the future... As I realised, were unlucky as we ended up in the most brutal unit which was always thrown into hell. It's important to note I often spoke and saw in Suligovka the motorised regiment from our division (252nd) which however was based in Boguchary in Voronezh Oblast. My opinion is that regiment was 2-3 times more combat-ready and trained  than ours. Why so? I don't know. That regiment's losses were 3-4 times less than ours. 80% of all volunteers, as I understood, were thrown into our regiment due to the fact that we've had huge losses and always had an acute shortage of people. 

 

Also, one good contractor guy from that regiment (also named Viktor) said that our division has a messed up artillery. I asked why is our artillery so ill-prepared? He said - 'Photo reports. They don't shoot properly, just take photos and write that all is well, all the targets have been successfully hit'.

 

Also, another guy from reconnaissance talked how they spotted in Suligovka area a Ukrainian howitzer which was shelling Suligovka. It was spotted in the morning. Its precise coordinates were provided. The scout said that 'It was shelling Suligovka the whole day and not a single scum from our artillery hit it, even though there's plenty of our artillery stationed among shrubbery'. It was exactly during the days when I was in Suligovka. I also remember one time when we were shelled throughout the whole day, but our artillery was silent. How so? I don't know. Perhaps no one had ammunitions. It's important to note that our helicopters helped us a couple of times. On two occasions they suppressed enemy mortars that were very close to us (around 1,5 kilometers away) and hit us when we were in Suligovka. The same scout was saying that we often don't have proper communication and interaction between battalion and regiment, and regiment and division. If true, this is horrible, of course...

 

Our division's zampolit once spoke to us after we refused to go into assaults. He tried to persuade us to go back on the frontlines and attacks. Do you know what struck me? He was confident we all came to fight in Ukraine for money, and that if any of us was making more than 120,000 rubles a month in Russia, then we wouldn't come here. What can be said about this? It is of course sad when there are zampolits like that in Russia who are confident that people can have no motivation other than material benefits. In fact, as I understand this is what all the high-ranking officers in battalion, regiment, division believed (apart from company commanders who went into attacks with us on the frontlines). Well, they probably judge by themselves as I see it. In reality, there is nothing surprising about it. This has been going on for a while in the Russian society - on the first spot for the vast majority of the people in Russia are material goods - flats, cars, cottages, cruises abroad. Even though I was a child I very well remember how the people were in the early 2000's - it was a different society in Russia, there were many times more kind, humane, sincere people... These days you can be incredibly kind, decent, honest and sincere, but if you have no money, no success, then you are seen in the Russian society as a nobody...

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by Grimas

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Part 3 from Viktor https://justpaste.it/4y5en

Viktor Shayga Part 3 Draft

Dmitri @Dmitri · 1h I consider it important to say how the humanitarian aid collected for our army is distributed. Even back at home I suspected that very little reaches the frontline directly. Even back in my unit in Valuyki I found that conscripts who were delivering humanitarian aid to our unit to Ukraine stole from it three crates of canned meat and sold it in our unit for 70 rubles each. They also stole three crates with cigarettes. Cigarettes that normally cost 187 rubles, they were selling for 100. I also personally saw how in the regiment's headquarters, a woman who worked there was eating "Roshen" candy from a big crate. As far as I understand that was meant to go straight to the frontlines, but it never did. One can only wonder how many crates like that with sweets, canned food, condensed milk are stolen in the Valuyki unit by every man and his dog... People who saw it also told me how in Izyum, those who always stayed in the rears jumped like jackals on crates with aid from some Russian region. This aid was also meant for the frontlines. They pulled out and gutted everything - they took all the chocolate, canned foods, good cigarettes, all the good clothes - they left all the worst and unneeded, including the worst cigarettes. In the end, from a whole truck only three crates survived - one was sent to our 752nd regiment, another to Bogychary, the shoved the last one somewhere... Those who saw these rear bastards going through items said it was a very disgusting this to see from outside...
 
I was at the frontline. Thank God, we always had food, but never had good cigarettes. They simply never reached us. We didn't have basic raincoats, either. Once it rained heavily for three days and we all were soaked, we slept soaked, we stood guard soaked...
 
It's important to note another tragic issue. Many volunteer guys scattered around the forests after those insane assaults by our unit. They fled because they were immediately thrown into battle and they didn't even know each other all that well. I've heard they now wander in the forests in small groups, not letting anyone approach them. If someone yells at them - 'We're yours!', they start shooting anyway. What was it like for these people? Wandering around these forest, cold and hungry, always afraid of getting into the hands of these Ukrainian subhumans... Who will answer for this?
 
In early May I found that one of our PMC (Private Military Co) had an objective of collecting such people in the forests and fields of our area (Well, this probably is an accompanying task for them; aside from that I think their main objective is fighting Ukrainian saboteurs). They picked up two of our guys in shrubbery near Suligovka... They fed them, gave new uniforms since after two weeks in Suligovka their uniform completely worn out, and brought them to Izyum. 
 
Another thing. In early May two FSB officers came to us. A Major and A Lieutenant. I believe they are from the FSB department for armed forces. I don't know if they belong to this division or not. They were very polite. They tried very politely to return us to the frontline. I said that we are basically thrown into a senseless slaughters. The Lieutenant said they knew of all this. I said it wasn't just us who refused to assault Dolgen'koye, the spetsnaz also refused to assault this village. He answered that 'They know and they are working on it as well'. He said 'We do not judge any of you (who refused)'. He said it multiple times. Then, on 6 May the FSB Colonel arrived. One fella said he heard him talking about us: '20 people are thrown into attacks like meat'. I just don't understand how this makes sense - if FSB knows about all this, why aren't they taking any measures to root out this horror?! Or is that considered normal?! Or is it just, how it often happens in Russia, everyone's covering each others since they are all friends, comrades, relatives, drinking buddies, co-thieves?! For instance, this FSB colonel's daughter could be married (or in a relationship) with my former division commander's son. So the case is not moving... It's all sad, of course...
 
It's also important to note, I have personally heard, how in the regional contract selection office one of the instructors was blatantly lying to a grown man that they needed a driver to chauffeur the division commander, having previously found whether he had a B or C driving license level. He did it because no one wanted to be a driver since they were very often killed. Also, speaking to guys from other regions of Russia I found that many were told in the enlistment offices that they would not be serving in enlistment offices, but will be the second echelon troops guarding checkpoints, escorting convoys, guarding cities and villages already taken by us in the rears. Although, I clearly realised I could end up on the frontline, including in the assault group... Also some (myself included) were told we will be in Ukraine from two weeks to a month, and then we'd be taken out to Russia for 10 days to rest. But that also was a lie. Specifically in our division there was no rotation. Volunteers on a contract who entered Ukraine on 24 February are still there and never left to Russia. Same for us - if we stayed, we would be there until the end of our contracts, so for half a year until September. 
 
Those volunteer contractors who came after us, many of them (if not all) did not even pass the medical examination. When I came back home I watched a few videos wit Igor Strelkov. He spoke in particular about the criminal mobilisation that was conducted in LPR and DPR when people without any proper training or coordination were sent into battle. He said they did not even do this in the first, most difficult months of the Great Patriotic War - people were given at least a bit of time to train and get to know each other... at least one week! Since if it's not done, this leads to massive losses... And this lead to large losses of the mobilised in Donetsk and Luhansk, Strelkov said. For a mobilisation like those in the leadership who allowed this must be shot, Strelkov said. He also said that such mobilisation kills the 'Golden fund' of Russia since those who did not hide from enlistment officers are the most decent and honest people... He also said that this treatment where people are sent into slaughter ruins all the motivation for people to serve and help motherland in the future... As I realised, were unlucky as we ended up in the most brutal unit which was always thrown into hell. It's important to note I often spoke and saw in Suligovka the motorised regiment from our division (252nd) which however was based in Boguchary in Voronezh Oblast. My opinion is that regiment was 2-3 times more combat-ready and trained  than ours. Why so? I don't know. That regiment's losses were 3-4 times less than ours. 80% of all volunteers, as I understood, were thrown into our regiment due to the fact that we've had huge losses and always had an acute shortage of people. 
 
Also, one good contractor guy from that regiment (also named Viktor) said that our division has a messed up artillery. I asked why is our artillery so ill-prepared? He said - 'Photo reports. They don't shoot properly, just take photos and write that all is well, all the targets have been successfully hit'.
 
Also, another guy from reconnaissance talked how they spotted in Suligovka area a Ukrainian howitzer which was shelling Suligovka. It was spotted in the morning. Its precise coordinates were provided. The scout said that 'It was shelling Suligovka the whole day and not a single scum from our artillery hit it, even though there's plenty of our artillery stationed among shrubbery'. It was exactly during the days when I was in Suligovka. I also remember one time when we were shelled throughout the whole day, but our artillery was silent. How so? I don't know. Perhaps no one had ammunitions. It's important to note that our helicopters helped us a couple of times. On two occasions they suppressed enemy mortars that were very close to us (around 1,5 kilometers away) and hit us when we were in Suligovka. The same scout was saying that we often don't have proper communication and interaction between battalion and regiment, and regiment and division. If true, this is horrible, of course...
 
Our division's zampolit once spoke to us after we refused to go into assaults. He tried to persuade us to go back on the frontlines and attacks. Do you know what struck me? He was confident we all came to fight in Ukraine for money, and that if any of us was making more than 120,000 rubles a month in Russia, then we wouldn't come here. What can be said about this? It is of course sad when there are zampolits like that in Russia who are confident that people can have no motivation other than material benefits. In fact, as I understand this is what all the high-ranking officers in battalion, regiment, division believed (apart from company commanders who went into attacks with us on the frontlines). Well, they probably judge by themselves as I see it. In reality, there is nothing surprising about it. This has been going on for a while in the Russian society - on the first spot for the vast majority of the people in Russia are material goods - flats, cars, cottages, cruises abroad. Even though I was a child I very well remember how the people were in the early 2000's - it was a different society in Russia, there were many times more kind, humane, sincere people... These days you can be incredibly kind, decent, honest and sincere, but if you have no money, no success, then you are seen in the Russian society as a nobody...

 

Repeated bitching about the quality of the cigarettes and use of the phrase “co-thieves” lends to the credibility of author.

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8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

 

Look, just because I’m getting my ass whooped by a sixth grader doesn’t mean I can’t take Tyson.  

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This guy got his whole day ruined:

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Worth the read

75% of RU tanks in the 10K tank reserve are over 50 years old and only 1 in 10 are operational.

[Pescado_Rojo 19330]

11 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

I mean, boats are the ultimate depreciating asset.

hoes are worse. 

[Macanudo 12925]

1 hour ago, 686 said:

 

Repeated bitching about the quality of the cigarettes and use of the phrase “co-thieves” lends to the credibility of author.

Well, that and the reference to Ukrainians as subhuman.

[The Dog 43784]

 

[Chad Fuck 17548]

The article at the link is bone chilling.  The NYT has all the receipts of these war crimes.  They're going to be able to say with specificity exactly who killed these poor Ukrainians.

Imagine if the holocaust had been documented in real time like the atrocities the Russians are currently committing. 

 

[immamac 42513]

5 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

The article at the link is bone chilling.  The NYT has all the receipts of these war crimes.  They're going to be able to say with specificity exactly who killed these poor Ukrainians.

Imagine if the holocaust had been documented in real time like the atrocities the Russians are currently committing. 

 

Then imagine that the world watched instead of doing anything about it because of nuclear weapons. 

[utee94 15744]

It's unfair and incorrect to say the world is not doing anything about it.

You could certainly believe, and say, that the world isn't doing enough about it.

But many nations around the world, including ours, are certainly doing SOMEthing about it.

 

[Captainant 27403]

24 minutes ago, immamac said:

Then imagine that the world watched instead of doing anything about it because of nuclear weapons. 

yeah along the lines of what utee94 said - we ARE doing something about it with the tens of billions in weapons and aid being sent to them. If you REALLY wanted to do something about horrors like this, you (the world) needs to do something to stymie and kneecap these tyrants and prevent them from amassing enough power to drive their nation off a cliff. 

Unfortunately, the last half decade of US policy was exactly the opposite of that, and often times changing to be more favorable/deferential towards putin's russia. When tyrants have a free hand, they're not gonna use it for good things.

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25 minutes ago, utee94 said:

It's unfair and incorrect to say the world is not doing anything about it.

You could certainly believe, and say, that the world isn't doing enough about it.

But many nations around the world, including ours, are certainly doing SOMEthing about it.

 

I'd like to see the sanctions come on faster, but that's a quibble.  Let's give credit where it's due: most nations are stepping up.

[Chad Fuck 17548]

Just now, Captainant said:

yeah along the lines of what utee94 said - we ARE doing something about it with the tens of billions in weapons and aid being sent to them. If you REALLY wanted to do something about horrors like this, you (the world) needs to do something to stymie and kneecap these tyrants and prevent them from amassing enough power to drive their nation off a cliff. 

Unfortunately, the last half decade of US policy was exactly the opposite of that, and often times changing to be more favorable/deferential towards putin's russia. When tyrants have a free hand, they're not gonna use it for good things.

Not to mention that there are war crimes investigations (presumably leading to prosecutions) going on now as well.  

Further, even though we live in a rapid information age, not everything we see is everything there is.  Moreover, everything we see isn't in real time.  For example in the article I posted we're three months down the line from the actual events.  Even so, that's remarkably fast in the context of how quickly things have been revealed in the past.  For example, the Katyn massacre wasn't known until a year after it happened, and only after the Germans had invaded.  

I understand the sentiment that we want all the killing to stop and the perpetrators to be held accountable immediately.  But what is happening is something not nothing and unfortunately the results we want never come quickly enough.

[Trey3216 15325]

24 minutes ago, Captainant said:

yeah along the lines of what utee94 said - we ARE doing something about it with the tens of billions in weapons and aid being sent to them. If you REALLY wanted to do something about horrors like this, you (the world) needs to do something to stymie and kneecap these tyrants and prevent them from amassing enough power to drive their nation off a cliff. 

Unfortunately, the last half decade of US policy was exactly the opposite of that, and often times changing to be more favorable/deferential towards putin's russia. When tyrants have a free hand, they're not gonna use it for good things.

Just the last 1/2 decade?  You're better than that   

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you (the world) needs to do something to stymie and kneecap these tyrants and prevent them from amassing enough power to drive their nation off a cliff. 

If tyrants want to drive their own country into the dirt while staying within their borders and the citizenry are largely ok with it (no civil war), there isn’t a great track record of success at turning these situations around. (Russia, NK, Iraq, Taliban, Somalia, etc.)

Also, when we interdict, half the world sees us at the tyrant. It’s tough.

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5 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Just the last 1/2 decade?  You're better than that   

I'm more thinking back to 2014 and onwards. You know, when we did dick after the russians violently annexed a significant percentage of Ukraine after Paul Manafort's man Yanukovych lost in Kiev and tried to subvert his nation's democracy to steal the election and their referendum to join the EU by calling for elections that the citizens couldn't participate in

Edited May 20, 2022 by Captainant

[Nivek 16843]

15 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I would say he's the dumbest fucking ambassador around, but he knows exactly what he's saying and why he's supposed to say it.

 

seems like Ukraine could use a few anti-ship missiles with extended range.  

[DDD Dad 14243]

1 hour ago, Captainant said:

yeah along the lines of what utee94 said - we ARE doing something about it with the tens of billions in weapons and aid being sent to them. If you REALLY wanted to do something about horrors like this, you (the world) needs to do something to stymie and kneecap these tyrants and prevent them from amassing enough power to drive their nation off a cliff. 

Unfortunately, the last half decade of US policy was exactly the opposite of that, and often times changing to be more favorable/deferential towards putin's russia. When tyrants have a free hand, they're not gonna use it for good things.

 

1 hour ago, Trey3216 said:

Just the last 1/2 decade?  You're better than that   

 

1 hour ago, Captainant said:

I'm more thinking back to 2014 and onwards. You know, when we did dick after the russians violently annexed a significant percentage of Ukraine after Paul Manafort's man Yanukovych lost in Kiev and tried to subvert his nation's democracy to steal the election and their referendum to join the EU by calling for elections that the citizens couldn't participate in

Can we keep this thread limited to news and leave policy discussions to the CR?  kthanksbye.

[InkaUtexas 25486]

 And making fun of Russia right? We can do that?

 

[InkaUtexas 25486]

Orcs trying to erase culture. Anyone see any military targets around? 

 

[InkaUtexas 25486]

We can discuss all we want if Ukraine's war is genocide. Hard to state that. But it surely falls into the category of Ethnic Cleansing. 

UN's definition. 

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/ethnic-cleansing.shtml

Russia has done all the things Bolded in the spoiler. 

Spoiler

As ethnic cleansing has not been recognized as an independent crime under international law, there is no precise definition of this concept or the exact acts to be qualified as ethnic cleansing. A United Nations Commission of Experts mandated to look into violations of international humanitarian law committed in the territory of the former Yugoslavia defined ethnic cleansing in its interim report S/25274 as "… rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area." In its final report S/1994/674, the same Commission described ethnic cleansing as “… a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.” 

The Commission of Experts also stated that the coercive practices used to remove the civilian population can include: murder, torture, arbitrary arrest and detention, extrajudicial executions, rape and sexual assaults, severe physical injury to civilians, confinement of civilian population in ghetto areas, forcible removal, displacement and deportation of civilian population, deliberate military attacks or threats of attacks on civilians and civilian areas, use of civilians as human shields, destruction of property, robbery of personal property, attacks on hospitals, medical personnel, and locations with the Red Cross/Red Crescent emblem, among others. 

The Commission of Experts added that these practices can “… constitute crimes against humanity and can be assimilated to specific war crimes. Furthermore, such acts could also fall within the meaning of the Genocide Convention.”

 

[The Dog 43784]

The situation around Popansa is where all of the current reporting/action appears to be occurring. Not seeing much else. Wondering when this attack will culminate. 

[Pato del Muerto 52336]

You push through like that and all the sudden you are fighting on 3 sides. 

[SquishMitten 10397]

It's like they're asking to be flanked

[The Dog 43784]

More recent update:

 

[InkaUtexas 25486]

Team America, Fuck Yeah! Coming again to save the motherfucking day! 

 

[InkaUtexas 25486]

Ummmmm....... 

 

[MillerEP 30339]

Number keeps growing. FIrst it was 260, then 950, and now suddenly its 2439. Like a bad game of telephone.

 

[MillerEP 30339]

 

[MillerEP 30339]

^This is true. When you switch from a defensive posture to an aggressive one, your losses will go up. Hope they can prepare the battlespace well before assaults because the Russians have been digging in and preparing defenses. 

Artillerymen of the NMU Rapid Response Brigade and 24 King Danylo OMBRs destroyed 2 Russian tanks in the Luhansk region.

The calculation of the Stugna-P anti-tank missile system destroys the occupier.

[MillerEP 30339]

In Energodar the fire department went on protest against occupiers who kidnapped the chief of unit Vitaly Troyan, the mayor Dmitry Orlov writes

The racists used force against firefighters protesting against the abduction of fire brigade commander Vitaliy Troyan, who began beating people and damaging fire and rescue equipment.

The moment of dispersal of firefighters in the occupied Energodar, who protested against the abduction of the chief of the fire and rescue detachment by the Rashists.

[InkaUtexas 25486]

Yeah, now we will see some interesting fires around there. Too bad the firefighters did not have their water cannons ready. 

[MillerEP 30339]

Destroyed T-80U

The position of the occupiers with dozens of units of equipment, including tanks T-72B3, BMP, MT-LB and at least one MTU-72, was suppressed by Ukrainian artillery fire

Turn wrong ...
 Or how brightly the column of Ruzkezoldaten of marines in the Luhansk region burns.
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[Superhero 8762]

3 hours ago, Nivek said:

seems like Ukraine could use a few anti-ship missiles with extended range.  

Not sure why my post didn’t go through the first time.

But what’s stopping a couple of NATO jets doing a low level flyby of these Russian ships and maybe launch a few anti-ship missiles while they’re at it?

They could blame the Ukrainian’s who would gladly take the credit. 

[MillerEP 30339]

I don't even think they need to go that far. If the Pacific strike fleet escorted some cargo ships into Odesa port and back out with grain shipments, I seriously doubt Russia's little pea shooters would dare fire on an entire carrier strike group. 

[Chad Fuck 17548]

14 minutes ago, Superhero said:

Not sure why my post didn’t go through the first time.

But what’s stopping a couple of NATO jets doing a low level flyby of these Russian ships and maybe launch a few anti-ship missiles while they’re at it?

They could blame the Ukrainian’s who would gladly take the credit. 

That's not really the kind of thing you can pawn off on someone else.  

[InkaUtexas 25486]

Hitting the railway again. western Ukraine. Looked at the Rail map and yep, this connects the border to Kiev. 

 

[Chad Fuck 17548]

2 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

I don't even think they need to go that far. If the Pacific strike fleet escorted some cargo ships into Odesa port and back out with grain shipments, I seriously doubt Russia's little pea shooters would dare fire on an entire carrier strike group. 

How do you reckon they're going to get up the Bosphorus? 

[SquishMitten 10397]

3 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

I don't even think they need to go that far. If the Pacific strike fleet escorted some cargo ships into Odesa port and back out with grain shipments, I seriously doubt Russia's little pea shooters would dare fire on an entire carrier strike group. 

You want to put an entire carrier group within easy range of a bunch of Russian warships? I would very much hope they didn't get shot at, but if they did...

[The Dog 43784]

We're considering adding anti-ship missiles: https://www.reuters.com/world/exclusive-us-aims-arm-ukraine-with-advanced-anti-ship-missiles-fight-russian-2022-05-19/

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But there are several issues keeping Ukraine from receiving the missiles. For one, there is limited availability of platforms to launch Harpoons from shore -- a technically challenging solution according to several officials -- as it is mostly a sea-based missile.

Two U.S. officials said the United States was working on potential solutions that included pulling a launcher off of a U.S. ship. Both missiles cost about $1.5 million per round, according to experts and industry executives.

and this question:

6 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

I don't even think they need to go that far. If the Pacific strike fleet escorted some cargo ships into Odesa port and back out with grain shipments, I seriously doubt Russia's little pea shooters would dare fire on an entire carrier strike group. 

is answered by this:

2 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

How do you reckon they're going to get up the Bosphorus? 

Turks won't let us through unless we get them to agree to it. 

[MillerEP 30339]

The Russian Ural-4320 truck was captured.

Lviv 80 separate airborne assault brigade DShV ZSU destroyed two tanks of the occupiers.

 The video shows the effective use of the modern Ukrainian anti-tank missile system "Stugna" and the American "Javelin" against enemy armored vehicles.

SSO "Azov Kyiv" destroyed the Russian infantry fighting vehicle BMP-2 with the help of NLAW.

[Orange&White 5516]

8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

We're considering adding anti-ship missiles: https://www.reuters.com/world/exclusive-us-aims-arm-ukraine-with-advanced-anti-ship-missiles-fight-russian-2022-05-19/

and this question:

is answered by this:

Turks won't let us through unless we get them to agree to it. 

And that's nobody's business but the Turks.

[MillerEP 30339]

13 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

How do you reckon they're going to get up the Bosphorus? 

They won't be able to unless Turkey flips, I'm just shitposting, but generally, I'm saying if they get cargo ships in there under guard, I doubt Russia will do much.

Edited May 20, 2022 by MillerEP

[InkaUtexas 25486]

2016 US Army study on Sovi, I mean Russian military documents. Extensive read. Came out of Leavenworth so probably well vetted. Just FYI. Have not had time to dive into it to see how accurate it is. Might be useful if anyone is writing a Thesis! 

https://www.armyupress.army.mil/portals/7/hot%20spots/documents/russia/2017-07-the-russian-way-of-war-grau-bartles.pdf 

 

 

 

Edited May 20, 2022 by InkaUtexas