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For the love of Christ woman,  stop posting the same fucking thing every 20 mins just to make your neurotic self feel better.     Bring something useful to the thread other than your inane babbli

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I volunteered today. Log/Admin role to replace people for 30-60 days. The operation is in the west, or should the Orcs win will be pulled back behind the NATO wall. Either way the humanitarian effort

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19 hours ago, DaggerHorns said:

Doesn’t this seem like a big deal? You know, when another leader visits the most sophisticated missile defense system in the world with Lloyd Austin…or does this shit happen all the time? Just curious…

The fact that they made a public spectacle out of it probably means US/Canada is sending some kind of message.  If Trudeau was just visiting the Canadians at the complex or getting a briefing, they could have easily slipped him in and out without any photographers, troops lined up, etc. (and Lloyd Austin wouldn't have been there, he probably would have been greeted/briefed by the current head of NORAD).

And maybe not Russia - China has been fucking around with Canadian aircraft near North Korea.

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3 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

So all reports keep saying they're running out of men and equipment but, even w/ the West pouring arms into the country, the reports are also saying the Ukes are still greatly outmanned and outgunned.  Were the numbers at the outset of the war that much in favor of the Orcs?

 

Yeah. That's why everyone expected Russia to roll. Nobody thought Ukraine had a chance to survive, let alone win.

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59 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Damn the orcs are in trouble. What could her salary be vs. the weight of Western Economies? 

 

0% of those wages are going to be spent on optics.

They're going into someone's pocket, it's the Russian way.

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Wait.....they need to get their hands on a shitload of russian-standard ammo?  Anyone call these dudes yet?

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Pretty sure they're talking about Soviet tank and artillery ammo availability in Europe. The article also talks about how the Ukrainians have plenty of manpower, but not experienced manpower or the people to train large amounts green recruits.

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1 minute ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Pretty sure they're talking about Soviet tank and artillery ammo availability in Europe. The article also talks about how the Ukrainians have plenty of manpower, but not experienced manpower or the people to train large amounts green recruits.

Wait, they're training now?

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19 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

So all reports keep saying they're running out of men and equipment but, even w/ the West pouring arms into the country, the reports are also saying the Ukes are still greatly outmanned and outgunned.  Were the numbers at the outset of the war that much in favor of the Orcs?

 

All the training and arms delivered prior to the invasion was mainly to set Ukraine up for small team insurgency type hits. Russia prefers the artillery war of attrition that the war has now become. 

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1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

So all reports keep saying they're running out of men and equipment but, even w/ the West pouring arms into the country, the reports are also saying the Ukes are still greatly outmanned and outgunned.  Were the numbers at the outset of the war that much in favor of the Orcs?

It's all about the "culminating point" - that's what all of the experts/analysts keep talking about (some use the term "culminating point", some don't).  Clausewitz came up with the term back in the 1830s in On War.

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The culminating point in military strategy is the point at which a military force is no longer able to perform its operations. On the offensive, the culminating point marks the time when the attacking force can no longer continue its advance, because of supply problems, the opposing force, or the need for rest.

The Russians were hitting that point back in March (remember the convoy that ran out of gas?) and early April because they were spread too thin and were too far ahead of their supply depots, which is why they had to pull back from Kyiv (and later Kharkiv) and reinforce their troops elsewhere (in the East/South).

Once they pulled all of those troops out of Northern Ukraine and were able to reinforce/rotate/rebuild their BTGs in the East and South, that bought them a lot of time (a few months) in those areas.

When they redeployed form Kyiv/Kharkiv, that pushed back the "culminating point" for their offensive capacity/capability, but a lot of analysts are talking about sometime this month will be the last chance Russia can do anything offensively, and they are talking about July/August being the point where Russia's defensive abilities are finished (where Ukrainian breakthroughs won't be countered and the Ukrainians can run wild).

The fact that Russians are blowing more and more bridges as they pull back, or to seal off areas around them, shows their offensive capabilities are maxed and they do not expect to advance much farther (they have very little ability to bridge rivers/streams right now). Their desperation to get a fake referendum going and try and annex Kherson means they think they can hold a fake referendum, declare Kherson Russian territory, claim a cease fire, and hope Europe buys it and that this stops for a few years while they try to rebuild their military so that they can go at it again.

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3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Unmarked grave for a lieutenant colonel. Way to go Russia!

 

That’s weird since the Kremlin acknowledged his death. I’ve seen videos of funeral ceremonies for fallen Russian soldiers. I’ve seen reports of the Russians leaving their dead soldiers left behind in unmarked graves in Ukraine, allegedly because they want to hide the number of their soldiers dying there. I’ve also heard totally unconfirmed reports of the Russians using mobile crematoria to burn the bodies of their dead soldiers. I’ve never seen any photos and I could easily imagine that being Ukrainian propaganda. The reports I’ve seen aired on BBC and I couldn’t find a source there but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen them air this exact video. So we have to take all such reporting with a grain of salt.

 

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30 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

They’d better not tell The Moscow Times.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/06/who-was-russian-general-roman-kutuzov-a77902

That's not a pro-Putin newspaper though, it's an independent.

Speaking of pro-Putin media (video at link)

https://metro.co.uk/2022/06/08/vladimir-putins-tv-mouthpiece-vladimir-solovyov-threatens-germany-16793938/

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One of the Kremlin’s top propagandists has suggested Russia invade Germany next after getting offended over a ‘f*** you’ stamp.

Vladimir Solovyov, a TV propagandist often referred to as ‘Putin’s mouth’ raged at German culture minister Claudia Roth after she received a gift from her Ukrainian counterpart, Oleksandr Tkachenko.

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Two stamps given to her depicted the sinking of the flagship Moskva and alluded to the famous Ukrainian defenders of Snake Island telling the Russian warship to “go f*** yourself”.

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Ms Roth laughed and repeated the phrase “This is Russia….F*** you” in English several times during her meeting with Mr Tkachenko on a trip to Odessa on Tuesday.

Responding during Tuesday’s edition of his evening programme on Russia-1, Mr Solovyov claimed it was impossible to speak to German ministers – and said it would be better to send Russian troops back instead.

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‘Do you think that after all these idiots, scoundrels, boorish and rascals in the [German] government we should talk to them about something?’, he asked.

‘This is the German Minister of Culture, who pretends to translate what’s written on a stamp. ‘So, the stamp said something about a Russian warship . She told us all to “F*** off”.’

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He then asked: ‘What do we do now? Shake the dust of Teutonic graves again with the mighty march of the Soviet boot?’

Without this, an ‘understanding will never come’, he claimed, adding: ‘First they send their tanks to the east, which will soon trample on Russian soil again, and now we have this one, pretending to be the Minister of Culture, of course, from the Green Party.’

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Solovyvov also recently claimed that nuclear war was brewing and that ‘bloody pages in world history’ would be entered soon.

Speaking on Russia 1, he said: ‘I hope we’ll live through this.

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‘If everything keeps progressing the way it is, only a couple of mutants in Lake Baikai will survive. The rest will be destroyed in a massive nuclear strike.

‘Because if NATO decides they can place whatever they want on our borders, they’ll be sending more and more American weapons to Ukraine, Ukraine will fire and end up hitting one of our nuclear power plants, and here we go.’

What the hell kind of effect can that have on the Russian boomers who are watching TV, where they keep hearing talk of starting a war with NATO and nuclear annihilation, etc.

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A question for those in the know.  How accurate is the artillery that the US is sending over?  I think I have a overly simplistic view.  My mind keeps going to rifle accuracy (and the accuracy of the shoulder fired anti-tank weapons) and I don't think that is an even apples to oranges comparison.  Are we talking something like +/- 100 yards is considered dropping a shell in a barrel?

Accuracy is more like +/- 3 yards.
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14 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Wait.....they need to get their hands on a shitload of russian-standard ammo?  Anyone call these dudes yet?

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Well, see, the Crazy Joe banned Russian ammo imports last year, man! He knew what was coming and wanted to make sure they had enough for this war, man! And if you think that's crazy, you won't believe what is happening on Tatooine!

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Quality New Yorker article covering the amassed push in the Donbas. https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-fight-to-survive-russias-onslaught-in-eastern-ukraine

RU using local numerical superiority in men but mainly artillery to grind out incremental gains. Without the heavy equipment UA is in a bind to defend longterm plus we are in a race to see which side can mobilize their bench into the game. Not sure how much longer before we can see some of those UA reserves deployed to the front. Problem is they are losing much of their experienced troops and that will be hard to replace.

Russia is doing the one thing that they excel at which is mass artillery to combat bomb areas. We'll see how long they can ride that one trick pony. Some experts were previously predicting that mid June would be the point that the Russian advance would start to stall. So hope that comes to fruition before Putin clamps down on current territorial gains and starts negotiating for a cease fire plus annexation terms.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, dimyh said:

Quality New Yorker article covering the amassed push in the Donbas. https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-fight-to-survive-russias-onslaught-in-eastern-ukraine

RU using local numerical superiority in men but mainly artillery to grind out incremental gains. Without the heavy equipment UA is in a bind to defend longterm plus we are in a race to see which side can mobilize their bench into the game. Not sure how much longer before we can see some of those UA reserves deployed to the front. Problem is they are losing much of their experienced troops and that will be hard to replace.

Russia is doing the one thing that they excel at which is mass artillery to combat bomb areas. We'll see how long they can ride that one trick pony. Some experts were previously predicting that mid June would be the point that the Russian advance would start to stall. So hope that comes to fruition before Putin clamps down on current territorial gains and starts negotiating for a cease fire plus annexation terms.

 

 

it would seem like russia can throw bodies and dumb munitions at this in perpetuity. that's kinda their MO.

i'm struggling to see an end here that doesn't result in a peace treaty where russia steals more of ukraine and western money comes flooding back into russia.

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16 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

it would seem like russia can throw bodies and dumb munitions at this in perpetuity. that's kinda their MO.

i'm struggling to see an end here that doesn't result in a peace treaty where russia steals more of ukraine and western money comes flooding back into russia.

Clearly, they are running out of willing bodies and equipment.  Troops are refusing to serve.  The public has not felt max sanctions pain yet - it takes a while to filter down to the common man.  And they are hiding deaths for a reason.   All in good time. 

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29 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

it would seem like russia can throw bodies and dumb munitions at this in perpetuity. that's kinda their MO.

i'm struggling to see an end here that doesn't result in a peace treaty where russia steals more of ukraine and western money comes flooding back into russia.

Russia doesn’t have the bodies - that’s why they invaded Ukraine when they did - they are  in a demographics race they are losing big time, even though they just took 190,000 kids out of Ukraine (which Russian state media publicly admitted to).  Russia wouldn’t be blowing up bridges around them if they had the bodies to break out.  They are getting sucked into urban fighting which favors Ukraine.   They also can’t seem to take the pockets that Ukraine creates.

Things have changed.  Europeans are making too many moves to wean themselves off of Russian resources in the long run, to turn the taps back on if Russia annexes more territory and calls it a day.

And like dumbasses, Russia mentioned that they are looking at Moldova and Georgia after Ukraine.  They are saying the quiet parts out loud, so everybody realizes that they have to be stopped now, or they’ll just do this shit again in a few years when they’ve got more military-aged men.

Western money is also not coming back - Russia began naturalizing/stealing western assets like real estate, airplanes, assembly lines, etc.   Western companies are fucking furious over that.  They won’t risk investing in Russia in the future because Russia stole billions from them, and also since Russia is just going to reinvade Ukraine, Moldova, or Georgia again.

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