Русский корабль - иди нахуй

[jdhorn92 1538]

1 hour ago, MillerEP said:

 

Where is the rail line where the video came from?   I dont see a rail line near that depot and the earlier post upthread showed a video of the cache right next to it.

[Parliament 14146]

1 hour ago, MillerEP said:

 

Better than a Dodge.

[Parliament 14146]

Are all those people baining out of Crimea Russian sympathistists, straight up Russian immigrants or what?

[SydneyCarton 47929]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

Are all those people baining out of Crimea Russian sympathistists, straight up Russian immigrants or what?

I'm no expert but I assume straight up Russians. 

[Bevo 13529]

2 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Are all those people baining out of Crimea Russian sympathistists, straight up Russian immigrants or what?

For the most part, they stole the homes of the non-Russians living there and gave them or sold them to Russians.

[Armybrat 40751]

The Ukes ought to “liberate” Putin’s Black Sea dacha and use it as an R&R resort for their combat veterans.

 

Edited August 16, 2022 by Armybrat

[utee94 15746]

11 minutes ago, Bevo said:

For the most part, they stole the homes of the non-Russians living there and gave them or sold them to Russians.

Which is why it's going to be so glorious when Ukraine takes it back and the Russian land-thieves receive zero compensation for their stolen vacation homes.

[atomheartbevo 89465]

"Over the past 24 hours, more than ten thousand residential properties have been put up for sale in Crimea, huge traffic jams on the Kerch bridge"

Surly business opportunity?

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

a bunch of ruskies in crimea fleeing back to whatever shithole they're from is going to confuse the ruskies mainlining the kremlin's propaganda. 

[SydneyCarton 47929]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

"Over the past 24 hours, more than ten thousand residential properties have been put up for sale in Crimea, huge traffic jams on the Kerch bridge"

Surly business opportunity?

Buying stolen property from the people who stole it seems like a quick way to lose your money or end on a sanctions list. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Buying stolen property from the people who stole it seems like a quick way to lose your money or end on a sanctions list. 

any worse of an idea than backing an alcoholic in a business venture right after he fucked his last business partners who happened to be family members?

*may he rest in peace

[Armybrat 40751]

Let’s not go there please.

[SydneyCarton 47929]

1 minute ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

any worse of an idea than backing an alcoholic in a business venture right after he fucked his last business partners who happened to be family members?

*may he rest in peace

Yeah, but the guy said "Business Opportunity." Not "Who wants to set their spare money on fire."

[Chad Fuck 17577]

1 hour ago, Fico said:

 

[MillerEP 30341]

1 hour ago, jdhorn92 said:

Where is the rail line where the video came from?   I dont see a rail line near that depot and the earlier post upthread showed a video of the cache right next to it.

Different strike. The one with the rail line was a supply point near Maiske. The airbase was near Dzhankoy

[atomheartbevo 89465]

1. A shit-ton of Russian civilians and military families fleeing Russia (short-term fears)
2. A shit-ton of Russians selling properties in Crimea (that they don't own) (long-term fears)
3. A bold-as-hell and unmistakable attack against Russian infrastructure in Crimea
4. A very noticeable increase in attacks in general against major Russian military infrastructure, not just in the Kherson area
5. Russia having problems recruiting
6. Russia being publicly caught buying shitty robots online and putting cloth aroundt them to disguise them and pretending it's advanced military hardware at a premier Russian hardware expo
7. Kadyrovs being brought into the Kherson region over fears of Russian troops retreating/fleeing without permission.

Some serious shit going down today.

And all of those people fleeing Crimea and/or trying to list "their" properties, you know those people are better informed than mainland Ruskies.  They know something is up.

 

[MillerEP 30341]

 

[InkaUtexas 25538]

interesting about Bosnia. It can get real ugly there very quickly. 

[MillerEP 30341]

 

[atomheartbevo 89465]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Buying stolen property from the people who stole it seems like a quick way to lose your money or end on a sanctions list. 

Westerners could not even buy them because of the whole rubles thing, but I was thinking more in terms about thousands of properties which will need to be cleaned/rebuilt/etc., which means lots of construction bucks flowing in.  There are already billions earmarked for that from various countries.  And you know there will be some crooked companies involved, given that it's construction.

And I do mean rebuilt.  I honestly expect Crimea to come out looking like the Iraqi oil fields when Saddam tried to burn everything.  Russians won't leave anything standing, including dachas.

 

[MillerEP 30341]

 

[atomheartbevo 89465]

Looking at Kazakhstan basically telling Russians to fuck off, at what point does Georgia and Moldova start warming up their militaries/militias?

Feels like we are hitting that point where Russia would struggle to maintain their garrisons in those countries against a hostile force.

Particularly Moldova - 1,500 Russian troops, and Russia doesn't have a good way of consistently supplying them.

[atomheartbevo 89465]

Rob Lee is posting a ton of this stuff:

Some of it is very telling - they are looking for partners for systems that they can't produce due to sanctions

 

Edited August 16, 2022 by atomheartbevo

[atomheartbevo 89465]

They can't currently produce most of this stuff, unless Iran helps them out with backroom/3rd-party deals

 

[MillerEP 30341]

 

[atomheartbevo 89465]

@Humble Beast you were asking about military hardware making it to Ukraine.

There's a whole lot that is never even officially announced for various reasons, and the OSINT folks are tracking it.

 

[atomheartbevo 89465]

Holy shit, that's nearly half a mile away.

 

[atomheartbevo 89465]

Russians claiming they are arresting the Ukrainians who have been raiding in Crimea.

 

[InkaUtexas 25538]

Some of the comments are pretty funny. 

"lads you're off to blow up some russians, pack light but make sure you remember your A4 sheet of swastikas and your portrait of Bandera, can't possibly blow up ammo dumps without that"

[MillerEP 30341]

^Since getting back into Ukraine, James's been tasked with providing security for mine sweepers like this guy:

 

 

 

[MillerEP 30341]

 

[SquishMitten 10402]

4 hours ago, MillerEP said:

Somebody let UTPhil know. I’m sure there are buyers galore looking to scoop up such prime real estate!

[Shaddie 1638]

8 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

Somebody let UTPhil know. I’m sure there are buyers galore looking to scoop up such prime real estate!

If I had time I’d like to “negotiate” with these assholes and see how low you could them to go. Then tell them “go fuck yourself”.

[SquishMitten 10402]

5 hours ago, Nivek said:

Talk is cheap.  Get after it then bitch boy far from a battlefield.  

He looks to be of military age (aka 14- 107 years old) so he’ll be forced into conscription soon enough.

[Gengs1 2583]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

@Humble Beast you were asking about military hardware making it to Ukraine.

There's a whole lot that is never even officially announced for various reasons, and the OSINT folks are tracking it.

 

The finish folks really hate the orcs and pretty sure they donated some stuff that they don’t want to mention 

[atomheartbevo 89465]

2 minutes ago, Gengs1 said:

The finish folks really hate the orcs and pretty sure they donated some stuff that they don’t want to mention 

I have a feeling there is a ton of newer hardware in Ukraine that’s not been mentioned, “donated” by the arms manufacturers, and that the manufacturers are using it like a laboratory.  

I still can’t believe Russia bought a little robot off of Alibaba and tried to disguise it.

[Armybrat 40751]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I still can’t believe Russia bought a little robot off of Alibaba and tried to disguise it.

Maybe that’s where they got Putin?

[dimyh 1874]

Here is a good article with a Russian perspective of their performance to date in the special operation. A bit surprising in the frankness of it. original article is Russian had to Google translate it:

http://www.prisp.ru/analitics/11005-skorobogatiy-ukraina-gladiatorskie-boi-0408

 

Ukraine: gladiator fights

 

Journalist, expert of the PRISP Center Pyotr Skorobogaty talked with the director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies Ruslan Pukhov about the difficulties that the Russian armed forces are currently experiencing on the Ukrainian front, what consequences the supply of Western equipment to the Armed Forces of Ukraine will lead to , and whether Western military corporations will be able to increase the production of arsenals.

- Western weapons began to come into the possession of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In your opinion, how successfully can the Russian army, armed mainly with Soviet equipment, resist them? What technical problems are currently experienced by our armed forces?

- If we talk about weapons of a new family, then in the Armed Forces of Russia, unfortunately, there are practically no fifth-generation combat aircraft. The latest version of our Su-34 bombers belongs to the fourth generation "plus" aviation. In addition, we do not have enough high-precision weapons and modern aiming equipment. This further reduces the effectiveness of this type of bombers, which are either forced to use unguided bombs at a height accessible to enemy MANPADS, or are forced to completely abandon actions to support troops.

On the ground, the Russian army now uses mainly modernized third-generation tanks. Combat vehicles of the next Armata family still cannot enter service. Even our most modern T-90 tank available is a modification of the obsolete T-72. Simply put, the T-90 is a tuning of a Soviet tank. Therefore, to demand from them successful resistance to the latest Javelin, NLAW or Matador anti-tank systems is not entirely fair. In addition, a paradoxical situation has developed: the Soviet Union was the first country to invent an active protection complex (KAZ). But there is no KAZ on any of our combat tanks. This, of course, is a shame, because the experience of military operations in Ukraine has shown that a tank without a KAZ is now not at all capable of surviving on the battlefield.

At the same time, the Israelis equipped their tanks with active protection systems, the Americans began to install them on their tanks, but we did not. Therefore, I have a big question for our military and for Uralvagonzavod.

- Do you mean active protection complexes?

- Yes. It's like gladiator fights. One fights with a short sword and shield, and the second with a trident and a net. That is, they were armed differently. So now. In the Armed Forces of Ukraine, to a large extent, the infantry and artillery army, and our armed forces act on armored vehicles. And besides, they are not equipped with modern really effective protection.

- And what about the infantry?

- We are very much short of infantry. The front is large, and the people involved in the special operation are not enough. Relatively speaking, the Ukrainians are on the defensive, they have a lot of artillery and fighters. We have to break into the front with an insufficient number of soldiers and on vulnerable tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. Now in the Donbass, the Russian side is trying to solve this by using a large amount of artillery, but, as you can see, things are going very slowly.

Another point - the SVO showed that at the moment the airborne troops, roughly speaking, are bad ersatz infantry. Because their aluminum infantry fighting vehicles are generally easily hit, and they have fewer other weapons than motorized rifles.

You also need to remember that the Ukrainians have been actively training their army for eight years. They “driven” almost all of their infantry through the Donbass and actively used their artillery. That is, we used our artillery to an extremely limited extent, mainly in Syria or during exercises, while they were in a combat situation. Therefore, their gunners are more experienced. In addition, they learned how to use their old Soviet guns in conjunction with commercial quadrocopters. As a result, they have better, as they say now, "situational awareness", and they have better target designation. Simply put, in the case of an artillery duel, they often beat us. In general, the use of small drones has revolutionized the use of artillery. We actually missed this revolution and now we have to catch up "on the go."

The SVO once again confirmed the thesis that you can launch hundreds, thousands of unguided projectiles, which seem to be cheap, but all this power is leveled by two guided missiles that accurately hit the target. Two missiles, for all their high cost, will solve more problems than thousands of unguided ones. Old conventional projectiles do not cause significant damage to the enemy, especially if he is deeply buried in the ground or hiding in concrete bunkers. This is another confirmation of the triumph of high-precision weapons.

- The assault on Avdiivka, Marinka - are these just examples of the fact that it is possible to pour shells on well-fortified areas for a month and not achieve a breakthrough?

- Yes Yes. Actually, the methods of the First World War (to put it bluntly) do not work, especially if you do not have superiority over the enemy in the infantry. A combination of modern reconnaissance equipment (including unmanned ones) combined with a large number of high-precision weapons could solve the problem of the enemy's positional front - but this is exactly what we lack. Well, plus to this, we simply do not have enough troops to effectively attack in one more direction.

- Western states are now supplying Ukraine with weapons, in particular artillery and MLRS. These deliveries, accordingly, actualized the issues of the range of these guns. Why is distance so important?

- The fact is that the Soviet weapons, which are now used by both Russia and Ukraine, be it howitzers or multiple rocket launchers, with a few exceptions, they hit no further than 20-25 km. Moreover, we have a lot of 122-mm howitzers, which generally fire only 13 km. Modern Western artillery is long-range - first of all, we are talking about 155-mm howitzers with a barrel length of 39 calibers, and especially 52 calibers - the latter have a range of up to 40-41 km. The problem of lagging behind the USSR and Russia in the range of artillery fire has been obvious since the eighties, alas. True, now Western equipment is at the disposal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine so far in homeopathic doses, but supplies are growing. Accordingly, during an artillery duel, Ukrainian systems will be able to destroy our batteries, and return fire simply will not reach the target.

Finally, this issue is becoming particularly acute in connection with the commenced deliveries of HIMARS and MLRS missile systems to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which fire high-precision GPS-guided GMLRS missiles with a range of up to 85 km.

- What about aviation?

- There are two problems here - firstly, as already mentioned, we do not have enough precision-guided munitions and accurate means of detection and target designation in aviation, and secondly, Ukrainian air defense remains unsuppressed, operating on Soviet systems (S-300, Buk and etc.). In addition, the Ukrainians received a large number of MANPADS. As a result, aviation cannot freely operate effectively either from high and medium altitudes, or from low altitudes, which significantly limits its effectiveness, including in suppressing the same Ukrainian artillery and influencing enemy troops. To put it bluntly, we do not have air supremacy. The start of deliveries to Ukraine of modern Western medium-range air defense systems may exacerbate this problem.

On the supply of Western weapons

- Why is the delivery of Western weapons so slow? Is it due to the difficulties of training or is their sending intentionally dosed?

- At the general political level in the West, there is still no political determination to supply Ukraine with truly massive quantities of heavy weapons, since this will require both partial “uncovering” of its armed forces and the need to send large numbers of at least instructors to Ukraine for training, but in reality - and their military operators for at least partial use of these weapons. The West is not yet ready to go to such a level of involvement and escalation, except for some inveterate Russophobes, like the Poles.

Поэтому поставки Украине сейчас в значительной мере ограничиваются техническими и организационными моментами, доустимыми без такой степени вовлеченности. То есть нужно расконсервировать технику, провести регламентные работы. Потом нужно обучить людей с украинской стороны. Даже если военнослужащие обучены, они не станут стрелять так же, как опытные бойцы из западных армий. То есть нужен опыт.

But the Ukrainians learn very quickly, they turned out to be quite talented warriors. Training takes several weeks, so in fact the supply of weapons is on the rise, including in terms of quality (the same HIMARS). By the end of summer, I think the situation on the fronts can become dramatic. In addition, we do not have mobilization; in fact, we are fighting with a peacetime army. And they already have the fourth wave of mobilization, so there is no shortage of people. Yes, the regular army has been largely eliminated in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but there is the first reserve, which was driven through the ATO. There are second and third tiers. That is, at some point, a positional deadlock may occur, as in the Korean War since 1951, and our army will simply stand up and will not be able to move further. Let's not hit them with nuclear weapons.

- True, there is such a thesis that the supply of Western weapons is not so large that it would be possible to form reserves. They are thrown into battle and immediately knocked out. Accordingly, it is difficult for Ukrainians to create a strike group for a counterattack.

- I'm not ready to argue with that. This thesis seems to be uttered in television talk shows for complacency. Yes, we see a picture that the Ukrainian “Volkssturm” somewhere in Lviv is armed with Maxim or Degtyarev machine guns. But those units that fight on the front lines are well supplied. They have a Reserve Corps and in which case the Armed Forces of Ukraine can counterattack. I think they are better armed than the Volkssturm. In fact, the underestimation of the enemy played a cruel joke on us.

So far, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not demonstrated the ability to launch effective offensives above the tactical level - to recapture a village or another. In essence, in the offensive they have the same tactical problems as the Russian side - the attacking forces are usually few in number, they come under fire from artillery (which usually cannot be suppressed) and quickly roll back or are unable to hold the newly occupied positions, armored vehicles massively affected. Let's see if the Ukrainians turn out to be something more in this regard.

- There is another thesis - the number of barrels is not so important, but the formation of the projectile stock. According to your estimates, how regular is the supply of ammunition now, is it enough for combat operations? Is there a shortage of shells?

- I find it difficult to answer this question. The fact that they are still shelling Donetsk and they do not have a shortage of fuel does not create the impression that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have serious problems with this. They are also living people, they are also dying , but I am not sure that the Ukrainians are experiencing a serious shell shortage, especially in light of the fact that they have begun to switch to Western systems with Western supplies of shells. Although I may be mistaken.

I know one thing: unlike the Ukrainians, we started the SVO in white gloves. That is, we wanted not a single local resident to suffer. We opened the fighting as some kind of knightly duel. And this, sorry for the expression, is a dirty fight in the alley, where there are no rules.

Test site Ukraine

- What is the state of the Western military-industrial complex now? By and large, the Americans and Europeans have a chance to dump old weapons, clear out warehouses. And it looks like it's rebooting. Rumor has it that Western military corporations need a lot of time to restart their production. And others say that Ukraine is a testing ground for Western weapons, so they will be better prepared for the next clashes.

- Yes, Western armies are getting rid of old equipment, and now they are ordering new ones. Of course, this is beneficial for the states: there is a load, new jobs appear, new taxes, and so on. Any war is a testing ground. For us it was Syria, for the West it was Ukraine. There is nothing shameful here, it would be foolish not to use it.

Regarding the fact that they have some problems, I think this is Yaroslavna's standard lament for most military industrialists. They all over the world are terribly fond of complaining that they have something missing. Let's remember how tasty they were during the Cold War. All these productions can be quickly increased. If, say, the Germans run out of chips, they will ask the Americans for them. If the Americans, they will ask Germany. For example, did you know that the Abrams tank has a German cannon? They bought a license from them and are doing very well. Often what we think of as American is actually pan-Western and is done in a collaborative way. At one time, the United States bought licenses for unmanned aerial vehicles from Israel.

If we talk about numbers, then we should not overestimate the complaints of the Western military. The total number of weapons and equipment in service with the armies of the entire NATO bloc is very large, and it is many times larger than ours, and, moreover, for the most part fresh. 

- By and large, there is coordination between various contractors?

- Very often this happens not at the state level, but at the level of private companies. For example, when we wanted to buy Mistral-type amphibious assault ships from France, they had to Frenchize production. Because a number of American components or French parts made under an American license are involved in the manufacture of these ships for their own needs. The Americans refused to supply components for the sake of the Russian order, then they had to modify the ship.

Western military companies like Korean components because they are cheap. Having multiple production chains can potentially create trouble. But one should not think that these problems will create a barrier to meet their own and Ukrainian needs in technology. There may be interruptions in the supply of individual components, but these are just particulars.

[NorthLoop 14111]

Holy fucking longcat

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

So I’m supposed to read that, right?

[PTINS 3442]

2 hours ago, dimyh said:

Here is a good article with a Russian perspective of their performance to date in the special operation. A bit surprising in the frankness of it. original article is Russian had to Google translate it:

http://www.prisp.ru/analitics/11005-skorobogatiy-ukraina-gladiatorskie-boi-0408

 

Ukraine: gladiator fights

Thanks for posting. good read.

[atomheartbevo 89465]

9 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

So I’m supposed to read that, right?

TLDR: Whoever answered that is butt-hurt about a lack of Russian precision artillery and aerial munitions.

[Armybrat 40751]

14 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Thanks for posting. good read.

Yes it is.

Has the interviewee been sent to a gulag yet?

[Schulz2.0 28792]

40 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

So I’m supposed to read that, right?

[atomheartbevo 89465]

Holy shit, that blast this morning

 

[atomheartbevo 89465]

 

[atomheartbevo 89465]

I know this was posted earlier, but this just jumped out to me - these were cars that crossed before the latest attacks earlier today/last night/whatever.

Are the Ukrainians (or Russians) out there putting out information on Russian social media or something to GTFO of Dodge?

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[KYHorn 16865]

4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Russians claiming they are arresting the Ukrainians who have been raiding in Crimea.

 

#neverforget

[atomheartbevo 89465]

I laughed.

 

[atomheartbevo 89465]