Русский корабль - иди нахуй

[atomheartbevo 89416]

 

This had me twitchy.

 

I'm also kinda surprised the Russians had a fairly organized trench, based on all of the homeless camps they seem to live in.

[atomheartbevo 89416]

This is the kind of stuff I was talking about - Ukrainians are doing some amazing maneuvering.

 

[Fico 1743]

27 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

The funny part in all of this is that most of the fronts in this conflict are pre established because of natural barriers and so once those lines match up, then the real strategy will begin.

Once Kherson is liberated, the only area of conflict that is not set along natural barriers of long standing fortifications is the northern sector of Luhansk (there are several small rivers running N/S but nothing like the Oskil or Dniper). 
 

How does the UKA get across the river in Kherson, or more appropriately where do they make the attempt.  What does the UKA do on Luhansk beyond taking strobelsk? At what point is the UKA willing to stop advancing and essentially laying siege to many of the major cities in the occupied territories?

The issue is not what is happening right now, as most of these moves look to be following a predestined path because of geography and lines of supply. The problem is how does the UKA deal with the much more compact and naturally defensible situation the RU will find themselves in next spring. 

Lots of open ground between the east bank of the Dnipro and the pre February fortifications near Donetsk. If and when the Ukrainians push the Russians off the east bank of the Dnipro, I could see the next push north to south between Dnipro and Donetsk. Potentially to get in position to put Melitopol, Berdyans'k and Mariupol under pressure, cut Russian east to west movement and put all the resupply ports on the Azov under fire. Ukrainians on the west bank offer fire support and keep Russians in place on the east bank of the river under threat. 

Maybe this is wishful thinking but would massively exacerbate the already stretched Russian logistics. 

Regarding Ukrainian offensive timing, some of the videos we have been seeing are starting to show some mud problems and slow down the pace of advance/resupply. I do believe the Ukrainians keep the pressure on once the fields freeze if they have the capability. Keep pressure on the Russians and force the mobilization troops to be used as piecemeal stopgaps. 

[Trey3216 15325]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is the kind of stuff I was talking about - Ukrainians are doing some amazing maneuvering.

 

They might be advancin' to Mylove

My Love My Love,

Goodbye.  Nah nah nah nah

[cactusflinthead 27594]

“The Ukrainian armed forces commanders in the south and east are throwing problems at the Russian chain of command faster than the Russians can effectively respond,” said a Western official who requested anonymity to brief reporters about sensitive security information. “And this is compounding the existing dysfunction within the Russian invasion force.”

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“All Russian forces withdrew in poor order, suffering high casualties from artillery fire as they attempted to leave the town to the East,” the Western official said of Lyman, comparing it to Kharkiv. “Then, as you recall, troops received an order to cede the territory,” the official said. “But in Lyman we think that the Russian troops retreated despite orders to defend and remain”

“Relinquishing this area is exactly what the Kremlin did not want to happen,” the official said.

 

[SquishMitten 10400]

1 hour ago, Parliament said:

So is this war gonna get a name cooler than, "the Ukraine War?"  Seems it deserves one.

World War Z

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3868]

I feel like a ton is probably an insignificant amount when you are in the business he is in.

Is a shit ton better?

[atomheartbevo 89416]

Hard to follow everything, but honestly can't tell if the Ukrainians are pushing really hard, or the Russians are just absolutely falling apart right now.

[The Royal We 3065]

6 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

Is a shit ton better?

Metric fuck-ton is the preferred nomenclature.

[atomheartbevo 89416]

This sums it up

 

[bolverk 29399]

33 minutes ago, Fico said:

Lots of open ground between the east bank of the Dnipro and the pre February fortifications near Donetsk. If and when the Ukrainians push the Russians off the east bank of the Dnipro, I could see the next push north to south between Dnipro and Donetsk. Potentially to get in position to put Melitopol, Berdyans'k and Mariupol under pressure, cut Russian east to west movement and put all the resupply ports on the Azov under fire. Ukrainians on the west bank offer fire support and keep Russians in place on the east bank of the river under threat. 

Maybe this is wishful thinking but would massively exacerbate the already stretched Russian logistics. 

I think this is the play. Eliminate RU forces on the west bank and hold the river while forcing them back from Zap toward Melitopol with the goal of severing the west from the east. Then, you take out the Kerch Bridge, isolating Crimea, and making it as difficult as possible for it to resupply.

Edited October 4, 2022 by bolverk

[tokamak 6352]

10 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

If I had the skills, I’d photoshop Putin’s head onto the driver, and then replace the men’s heads with this generals, and the women’s with maybe the  TV show hosts.  
 

 

"Every wanker down!!" cracks me up every. single. time.

[Brisketexan 104596]

2 hours ago, Parliament said:

So is this war gonna get a name cooler than, "the Ukraine War?"  Seems it deserves one.

The FAFO War

Special Military Operation McOperationface

The Tractor War

Putin's Folly

The Bad Idea Jeans War

[ABSR 5289]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Well, Crimea river.

[atomheartbevo 89416]

3 minutes ago, tokamak said:

"Every wanker down!!" cracks me up every. single. time.

"Tim shows no emotion as he loses more and more control" sums up this whole war.

[Macanudo 12926]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

"Tim shows no emotion as he loses more and more control" sums up this whole war.

I had never seen that with the commentary.   That was allsome.

[RDCanecutter 26250]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Somebody's gramama dodged a bombing run and will never know it.

[PTINS 3442]

52 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

If there a betting pool, I'd almost be betting that Kherson will be Ukraine's within two weeks.  Whole lot of little villages/towns in the Kherson region (NE of Kherson the city) are popping up as being liberated within the past 24 hours, and the Ukrainians seem to be driving south along the river, getting between the Russians and the river.

And there are Ukrainian troops who are north/west of Kherson putting pressure on Kherson proper (they are the ones hitting Kherson with arty/HIMARS), which means the Russians can't maneuver around or even break off some smaller units to respond to the NE of Kherson.

There are even claims that they are trying to completely sever the Antonovsky bridge so that the Russians can't even use it on foot.

Some examples of places liberated today:

https://twitter.com/ukrainiansquad/status/1577139733066498048

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1577270974868852736

 

 

Thanks for all the good info.

It seems that UK doesn't really need to "take" Kherson. The city and the RU troops aren't going anywhere, and the RU supplies will decrease day by day without any significant resupply options.

Once UK pushes south along the Dnipro to Beryslav and controls the P47 bridge across the river, about 25 miles south of Mylove, it appears to be nothing but open farmland down to Crimea.

Game on.

The highway's jammed with broken heroes
On a last chance power drive
Everybody's out on the run tonight
But there's no place left to hide...
 

Oh honey, tramps like us
Baby, we were born to run

[atomheartbevo 89416]

I know it's still too early, but damn a lot of little villages/towns are being liberated in the Kherson area, and it's clear the Ukrainians are rolling in mechanized infantry.

[Chad Fuck 17564]

What's the back story on that one?  Like does Dave hate Timbo or think that posting his go pro footage gets him a better shot at getting laid with either of the two bikini girls?

Pretty embarrassing performance Captain Tim.

 

[PTINS 3442]

17 minutes ago, ABSR said:

Well, Crimea river.

That appears to be a cargo plane and not a Mig, like a RU version of a C-130.

[atomheartbevo 89416]

Another painting I need @RDCanecutter would like it

 

Edited October 4, 2022 by atomheartbevo

[RDCanecutter 26250]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

In 100 years the Russians will remember it as the War of Ukrainian Aggression. 

Fought over Oblasts' Rights.

[bolverk 29399]

3 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Thanks for all the good info.

It seems that UK doesn't really need to "take" Kherson. The city and the RU troops aren't going anywhere, and the RU supplies will decrease day by day without any significant resupply options.

Once UK pushes south along the Dnipro to Beryslav and controls the P47 bridge across the river, about 25 miles south of Mylove, it appears to be nothing but open farmland down to Crimea.

Game on.

The highway's jammed with broken heroes
On a last chance power drive
Everybody's out on the run tonight
But there's no place left to hide...
 

Oh honey, tramps like us
Baby, we were born to run

That and a bunch of sand dunes. We might even get a chance to see some Rat Patrol action.

[Chad Fuck 17564]

9 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Somebody's gramama dodged a bombing run and will never know it.

What's with the weird New Age music?  Some guy getting a happy ending while simultaneously watching Russian planes crash?  Because I'm not going to lie, that's probably an extra special pop off.  

[Chad Fuck 17564]

3 minutes ago, PTINS said:

That appears to be a cargo plane and not a Mig, like a RU version of a C-130.

There's a clear ejection at :32 and a chute pops a second later.   Ain't no cargo plane with the rocket seat.

Looks like he never got speed enough to do rotation.  He just rolled that sucker off the end of the runway.

[atomheartbevo 89416]

 

 

[Parliament 14133]

I doubt the Ukrainian version of Mossad worries about what a bitter old boomer says about them, or wants to waste the resources it would take to whack him.  Nice try though, Roger.

[Chad Fuck 17564]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

 

David Gilmour has donated.  Guaranteed.  And I'm not saying it's right, but I get it.

[956 Worldwide 34428]

21 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Thanks for all the good info.

It seems that UK doesn't really need to "take" Kherson. The city and the RU troops aren't going anywhere, and the RU supplies will decrease day by day without any significant resupply options.

Once UK pushes south along the Dnipro to Beryslav and controls the P47 bridge across the river, about 25 miles south of Mylove, it appears to be nothing but open farmland down to Crimea.

Game on.

The highway's jammed with broken heroes
On a last chance power drive
Everybody's out on the run tonight
But there's no place left to hide...
 

Oh honey, tramps like us
Baby, we were born to run

Battlefield realities and possibilities and political/civilizational demands do not always mesh perfectly.  Ukraine cannot simply look at map of its occupied territories as only terrain to be conquered and logistics to disrupt. They must look at it as a lost homeland they are trying to recover and return to the fold.  The Ukrainian citizens living in these cities have to know that their army is fighting, and if need be, dying for them and that they are not reduced to logistics hubs and topo maps.  People will forgive a lot, but they will not forgive being abandoned. 
 

This is not to mention the reality that every day under Russian occupation brings fresh horrors and murders to the occupied lands. And that we have seen that increase as the Russian positions get more desperate.  

[BrickHorn 18189]

Waters is lucky no one killed him years ago for recording shitty, soporific music. 

Edited October 4, 2022 by BrickHorn

[956 Worldwide 34428]

18 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

 

Rolling Stone is a piece of dick for giving space. 

[Nivek 16857]

26 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

 

you're so vain, you probably think this war is about you, don't you? 

[Ghost of LL 15486]

11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

So what are the best three drone-launched grenade strikes in the first 8 months of this special military operation and why are they

• Grenade dropped next to a guy taking a shit in the woods
• Grenade dropped through the sunroof of a packed pickup truck
• Grenade dropped next to a dude going down on another dude

 

11 hours ago, Handcruser said:

So the Russian troops-
Are usually drunk
Always retreating
Ill prepared
Poorly trained

And now they’re sucking each other’s dicks?

Good grief.

Based on my understanding of the culture of the Russian Army, I don't think we should at all assume that this encounter was consensual.

And that would really suck--here you are, a poor Russian conscript getting face-raped by a fucking corporal . . . and then you get blown up by a Ukrainian mortar.  That's a shitty day.

4 hours ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

How does one "accidentally" overstay one's visa in Russia of all places?

I feel like a ton is probably an insignificant amount when you are in the business he is in.

Back then, my father worked for an airline and we flew everywhere non-rev.  So we were supposed to leave on the Lufthansa flight on Saturday (I think) from St. Petersburg to Frankfurt, but it was full.  We couldn't catch any other flights out that day, so we went back to our hotel.  It just didn't occur to any of us that our visas were expiring that day.

We show up the next morning for the Lufthansa flight.  No problem--plenty of seats.  Sadly, no upgrade.  In those days, they used to upgrade non-revs pretty frequently.  But as I recall, we got an upgrade to Business on the connecting flight from Frankfurt to Dallas.

Anyhoo . . . 

Then we go through immigration, and the guy notices that our visas had expired the previous day.  There's a long discussion between the immigration officer and Dmitri (our driver), and Dmitri comes back and very gravely informs us that "this is the worst of all possible worlds."

So there is some further discussion in Russian between Dmitri and the immigration officer, during which the immigration officer walks off and rifles through our bags that are still on the x-ray machine.  It all takes about ten minutes.  And Dmitri then comes back and says that the immigration officer wants a "bottle."  What?  We're all puzzled. 

Turns out, my father was bringing back something like 8 bottles of Stolichnaya, which at that time you could get for about $2.  My father's like "fuck that dude," and goes over to the little immigration booth and slaps a $5 bill on the counter.  The immigration guy's eyes get big and he starts yelling in Russian, and Dmitri very quickly grabs the $5 bill, tucks it into one of our passports, and slides the passports back over to the immigration officer.  The passports are quickly stamped and we hustle our happy American asses off to the Lufthansa gate.

[DDD Dad 14251]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

 

Based on my understanding of the culture of the Russian Army, I don't think we should at all assume that this encounter was consensual.

And that would really suck--here you are, a poor Russian conscript getting face-raped by a fucking corporal . . . and then you get blown up by a Ukrainian mortar.  That's a shitty day.

Back then, my father worked for an airline and we flew everywhere non-rev.  So we were supposed to leave on the Lufthansa flight on Saturday (I think) from St. Petersburg to Frankfurt, but it was full.  We couldn't catch any other flights out that day, so we went back to our hotel.  It just didn't occur to any of us that our visas were expiring that day.

We show up the next morning for the Lufthansa flight.  No problem--plenty of seats.  Sadly, no upgrade.  In those days, they used to upgrade non-revs pretty frequently.  But as I recall, we got an upgrade to Business on the connecting flight from Frankfurt to Dallas.

Anyhoo . . . 

Then we go through immigration, and the guy notices that our visas had expired the previous day.  There's a long discussion between the immigration officer and Dmitri (our driver), and Dmitri comes back and very gravely informs us that "this is the worst of all possible worlds."

So there is some further discussion in Russian between Dmitri and the immigration officer, during which the immigration officer walks off and rifles through our bags that are still on the x-ray machine.  It all takes about ten minutes.  And Dmitri then comes back and says that the immigration officer wants a "bottle."  What?  We're all puzzled. 

Turns out, my father was bringing back something like 8 bottles of Stolichnaya, which at that time you could get for about $2.  My father's like "fuck that dude," and goes over to the little immigration booth and slaps a $5 bill on the counter.  The immigration guy's eyes get big and he starts yelling in Russian, and Dmitri very quickly grabs the $5 bill, tucks it into one of our passports, and slides the passports back over to the immigration officer.  The passports are quickly stamped and we hustle our happy American asses off to the Lufthansa gate.

And this is how you humblebrag.

[SquishMitten 10400]

3 hours ago, Parliament said:

So is this war gonna get a name cooler than, "the Ukraine War?"  Seems it deserves one.

The NAFO War, NAFO-Russian War, or NAFO-Rashist War would be pretty apt names. This isn't a NATO war, but the overlap is so significant that the naming similarity is worth considering. The use of technology/social media/OSINT/etc has played an enormous role. And the actual NAFO alliance (or whatever they can be referred to as a whole) is arguably the most recognizable influence on - or symbol of - the war other than the actual countries/leaders involved.

Honestly, going forward (and completely unrelated to the actual online NAFO folks), I'd say any non-defensive action conducted/funded by NATO could be referred to as NAFO. It's like a gentleman's agreement that we all have the same basic interests, but we can't do it as "NATO" because that is a defensive-only alliance. 

[Born to Run 6567]

Thanks for all the good info.
It seems that UK doesn't really need to "take" Kherson. The city and the RU troops aren't going anywhere, and the RU supplies will decrease day by day without any significant resupply options.
Once UK pushes south along the Dnipro to Beryslav and controls the P47 bridge across the river, about 25 miles south of Mylove, it appears to be nothing but open farmland down to Crimea.
Game on.
The highway's jammed with broken heroes
On a last chance power drive
Everybody's out on the run tonight
But there's no place left to hide...
  Oh honey, tramps like us
Baby, we were born to run

Fuckin A

[We’reTexas 1468]

3 hours ago, Auto Driller said:

For me, nothing tops the grenade drop through the sunroof as the orcs were trying to escape. It was one of the first drone grenade videos ever released and really set the standard for the genre.

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11668]

2 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

This isn't a NATO war, but the overlap is so significant

[SquishMitten 10400]

1 hour ago, PTINS said:

That appears to be a cargo plane and not a Mig, like a RU version of a C-130.

It did look pretty big to me, but none of the videos are really clear enough to tell for sure. BUT, those intercepted messages refer to it as a Mig. And it definitely looks like somebody tried to bail via parachute. Don't imagine any of their cargo planes have that ability, but I suppose I could be wrong about that.

[The Dog 43802]

MOAR HIMARS:

 

[The Dog 43802]

 

 

Remember that Russia moved a lot of their best units to the Kherson area. If that falls then they are in deeeeep shit.

[MillerEP 30339]

^Should make attacking easier with fewer civilians in the area

 

[MillerEP 30339]

 

[Laxtonto 11929]

Just now, MillerEP said:

 

Let me guess… the new punitive measures include opening up all windows and opening all doors next to the stairs? 

[MillerEP 30339]

 

[MillerEP 30339]

 

[MillerEP 30339]

^Whole lotta of Russians not in Russia

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

All this talk of Mylove has put endless love into my head.  Biggest tragedy of the war so far imo. 

[NAVY 6738]

Great thread about the bad choices available to RU in Kherson