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[The Dog 44041]

30 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

I've seen several videos of Ukrainian soldiers returning home on leave being greeted by family.  Think about it.  Ukraine has enough troops that they are holding or pressing the Russians all along the line, and they still can send thousands for training and let some have leave.  Meanwhile we read about Russian, LPR, and DPR troops who have been fighting since February 24th almost nonstop.  No wonder Ukrainian morale and confidence are so high.

because they mobilized several hundred thousand months ago and instead of sending them to the meat grinder they sent them to training, made sure they knew how to do their jobs, filtered out those who couldn't cut it, and are constantly rotating people from the front for a break. 

these troops are motivated, well trained, well equipped, well fed, and ready to rumble. 

russia says 'here's a rusty old rifle, some boots, and some footwraps now go shoot something". 

[tx 3 putt 76932]

beautiful ....

 

39 minutes ago, The Dog said:

because they mobilized several hundred thousand months ago and instead of sending them to the meat grinder they sent them to training, made sure they knew how to do their jobs, filtered out those who couldn't cut it, and are constantly rotating people from the front for a break. 

these troops are motivated, well trained, well equipped, well fed, and ready to rumble. 

russia says 'here's a rusty old rifle, some boots, and some footwraps now go shoot something". 

 

did ukraine bulk up their reserves several years back ?

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Edited October 7, 2022 by Gatorubet

[SL Xpress 7513]

Senior US military officials publicly acknowledging Ukraine's potential to take back Crimea. 

If this were to happen - and I have to believe it's possible based on the reports we keep getting back from the front - it would amount to such an unbelievable miscalculation by Putin to invade in the first place, it's difficult to put it into words. Not only did he unite the west in ways that were thought impossible. Not only did he create a significant enlargement of NATO, reinforce its purpose and necessity. Not only did he create conditions where all of Europe is looking for ways to reduce their purchases of Russian fossil fuels dramatically. Not only did he cripple his own economy, create a sense of hostility towards Russians of every stripe, but especially the richest. Not only has he decimated his military and shown it to be a paper tiger that no one has to fear. 

But in a war prosecuted for territorial conquest he could be forced to give up the most important asset of all, that he never would have had to lose, probably ever, if he hadn't invaded. 

The one thing I don't like about the article is the war graphic they showed. They didn't show the extent of Russian advances in the Donbas region, particularly in Luhansk, nor how far Russian forces advanced west of the Dnipro river in Kherson prior to the Ukraine counter offensive. But that's okay. 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/10/05/ukraine-could-recapture-crimea-fleeing-russians-continue-flounder/

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Ukraine could recapture Crimea as fleeing Russians continue to flounder

Taking territory annexed by Vladimir Putin in 2014 is now a ‘very real possibility’, says a senior US official

ByRoland Oliphant, SENIOR FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT, IN KHARKIV ; Con Coughlin, DEFENCE EDITOR and Verity Bowman5 October 2022 • 8:36pm

 

A Ukrainian soldier surveys destroyed Russian armoured vehicles at the recently retaken town of Lyman, in Dontesk CREDIT: Yasuyoshi Chiba/AFP via Getty Images

 

Ukraine could retake Crimea if it continues to recapture territory from fleeing Russian forces at its current rate, senior US military officials believe.

The assessment came as Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, acknowledged battlefield setbacks for the first time and Ukrainian troops pursued the Russian army into the Luhansk region, reversing one of the Kremlin’s key gains of the war.

Western officials have previously considered retaking Crimea by force impossible, because Russia was expected to fight tooth and claw to defend it.

But a senior US officer told The Telegraph that recent Russian military collapses mean “the recapture of Crimea by Ukraine is now a distinct possibility and can no longer be discounted”.

Pushing into Crimea would mean Ukraine going further than the front lines of Feb 23, when Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and would likely view a ground assault on the critical strategic enclave as a major escalation.

The US official said: "It is clear that Russia no longer has the ability or willpower to defend key positions, and if the Ukrainians succeed in their goal of recapturing Kherson, then there is a very real possibility that it will ultimately be able to recapture Crimea."

The comments follow those from Laura Cooper, US deputy assistant secretary of defence, who said that Crimea was within Ukraine's grasp. "And just to be clear, Crimea is Ukraine," she added.

She also said US weapons could be used to strike Crimea - a move the Kremlin has described as "extremely dangerous" and "evidence of direct US involvement in the conflict".

 

 

On Wednesday, in a rare admission of difficulties at the front, Putin said: "We are working on the assumption that the situation in the new territories will stabilise.”

The Russian leader also signed a bill formalising Russia’s “annexation” of Luhansk and three other Ukrainian regions on Wednesday. He also ordered Russia’s state nuclear monopoly to take over the running of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.

On Wednesday Serhei Gaidai, the governor of Luhansk, announced that “the de-occupation of the Luhansk region has already officially started”.

Alexander Kots, a Russian journalist embedded with Russian forces there, revealed there were too few troops available to mount a credible defence against Ukraine's continuing advance.

The latest advance in the east came after the Russian front line in the south partially collapsed, leading to a retreat by at least 15 miles in the southern Kherson region on Tuesday.

A Ukrainian soldier fighting there told The Telegraph that Russian forces were “running away” and abandoning “rusty weapons”.

He said he had seen Russian soldiers shoot one of their own men in the back when he tried to surrender.

It came as Ukraine paraded the first newly mobilised soldier to have been captured fighting in Ukraine. The soldier said he had travelled to the front line with the intention of handing himself in, in a further sign of low morale.

 

Liz Truss, the Prime Minister, warned against compromising with Putin and said Britain would stand with Ukraine “however long it takes” for victory.

“We should not give in to those who want a deal which trades away Ukrainian land. They are proposing to pay in Ukrainian lives for the illusion of peace,” she told the Conservative Party conference.

“We will stand with our Ukrainian friends however long it takes. Ukraine can win, Ukraine must win, and Ukraine will win.

American government agencies said they would spend $290 million on anti-radiation drugs. Putin has previously hinted he would use nuclear weapons to avoid defeat in Ukraine.

Ukraine's lightning advance into the north-east on Wednesday revealed more alleged torture chambers used by Russian soldiers. 

 

[tx 3 putt 76932]

sitting ducks ....

 

[Chad Fuck 17673]

 
and support behind the battle field 
 

Ukraine is so winning the info battle. The vids of homecomings, lifting up the people behind the front lines who keep the tip of the spear sharp, providing info on how Russians can surrender safely. On every level they are projecting the right messaging: we’re right, we’re confident and we’re gonna win this.

[Chad Fuck 17673]

Senior US military officials publicly acknowledging Ukraine's potential to take back Crimea. 
If this were to happen - and I have to believe it's possible based on the reports we keep getting back from the front - it would amount to such an unbelievable miscalculation by Putin to invade in the first place, it's difficult to put it into words. Not only did he unite the west in ways that were thought impossible. Not only did he create a significant enlargement of NATO, reinforce its purpose and necessity. Not only did he create conditions where all of Europe is looking for ways to reduce their purchases of Russian fossil fuels dramatically. Not only did he cripple his own economy, create a sense of hostility towards Russians of every stripe, but especially the richest. Not only has he decimated his military and shown it to be a paper tiger that no one has to fear. 
But in a war prosecuted for territorial conquest he could be forced to give up the most important asset of all, that he never would have had to lose, probably ever, if he hadn't invaded. 
The one thing I don't like about the article is the war graphic they showed. They didn't show the extent of Russian advances in the Donbas region, particularly in Luhansk, nor how far Russian forces advanced west of the Dnipro river in Kherson prior to the Ukraine counter offensive. But that's okay. 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/10/05/ukraine-could-recapture-crimea-fleeing-russians-continue-flounder/
Spoiler

Ukraine could recapture Crimea as fleeing Russians continue to flounder

Taking territory annexed by Vladimir Putin in 2014 is now a ‘very real possibility’, says a senior US official

ByRoland Oliphant, SENIOR FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT, IN KHARKIV ; Con Coughlin, DEFENCE EDITOR and Verity Bowman5 October 2022 • 8:36pm

  A Ukrainian soldier surveys destroyed Russian armoured vehicles at the recently retaken town of Lyman, in Dontesk CREDIT: Yasuyoshi Chiba/AFP via Getty Images
 

Ukraine could retake Crimea if it continues to recapture territory from fleeing Russian forces at its current rate, senior US military officials believe.

The assessment came as Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, acknowledged battlefield setbacks for the first time and Ukrainian troops pursued the Russian army into the Luhansk region, reversing one of the Kremlin’s key gains of the war.

Western officials have previously considered retaking Crimea by force impossible, because Russia was expected to fight tooth and claw to defend it.

But a senior US officer told The Telegraph that recent Russian military collapses mean “the recapture of Crimea by Ukraine is now a distinct possibility and can no longer be discounted”.

Pushing into Crimea would mean Ukraine going further than the front lines of Feb 23, when Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine.

Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and would likely view a ground assault on the critical strategic enclave as a major escalation.

The US official said: "It is clear that Russia no longer has the ability or willpower to defend key positions, and if the Ukrainians succeed in their goal of recapturing Kherson, then there is a very real possibility that it will ultimately be able to recapture Crimea."

The comments follow those from Laura Cooper, US deputy assistant secretary of defence, who said that Crimea was within Ukraine's grasp. "And just to be clear, Crimea is Ukraine," she added.

She also said US weapons could be used to strike Crimea - a move the Kremlin has described as "extremely dangerous" and "evidence of direct US involvement in the conflict".

   

On Wednesday, in a rare admission of difficulties at the front, Putin said: "We are working on the assumption that the situation in the new territories will stabilise.”

The Russian leader also signed a bill formalising Russia’s “annexation” of Luhansk and three other Ukrainian regions on Wednesday. He also ordered Russia’s state nuclear monopoly to take over the running of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.

On Wednesday Serhei Gaidai, the governor of Luhansk, announced that “the de-occupation of the Luhansk region has already officially started”.

Alexander Kots, a Russian journalist embedded with Russian forces there, revealed there were too few troops available to mount a credible defence against Ukraine's continuing advance.

The latest advance in the east came after the Russian front line in the south partially collapsed, leading to a retreat by at least 15 miles in the southern Kherson region on Tuesday.

A Ukrainian soldier fighting there told The Telegraph that Russian forces were “running away” and abandoning “rusty weapons”.

He said he had seen Russian soldiers shoot one of their own men in the back when he tried to surrender.

It came as Ukraine paraded the first newly mobilised soldier to have been captured fighting in Ukraine. The soldier said he had travelled to the front line with the intention of handing himself in, in a further sign of low morale.

 

Liz Truss, the Prime Minister, warned against compromising with Putin and said Britain would stand with Ukraine “however long it takes” for victory.

“We should not give in to those who want a deal which trades away Ukrainian land. They are proposing to pay in Ukrainian lives for the illusion of peace,” she told the Conservative Party conference.

“We will stand with our Ukrainian friends however long it takes. Ukraine can win, Ukraine must win, and Ukraine will win.

American government agencies said they would spend $290 million on anti-radiation drugs. Putin has previously hinted he would use nuclear weapons to avoid defeat in Ukraine.

Ukraine's lightning advance into the north-east on Wednesday revealed more alleged torture chambers used by Russian soldiers. 

 

Imagine a NATO naval station in Sevastopol.

It’s easy if you try.

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Edited October 7, 2022 by atomheartbevo

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Same show Julia Davis mentioned

 

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[The Dog 44041]

 

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

36 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Can't blame others when you are alone calling the shots. Major step towards getting a coup against you. 

[RockyMountainHighHorn 890]

14 hours ago, Superhero said:

The US military has (mostly?) one type of fuel which is JP-8. It’s used in jets, tanks and Humvees.

I led a pursuit team for the Thermal Test Complex on Sandia National Labs. A place where mad scientists burned JP-8 in many weird and wonderful ways.

 

 

Care to explain more

[Born to Run 6569]

Imagine a NATO naval station in Sevastopol.

It’s easy if you try.

yes ma p n

[Pescado_Rojo 19416]

32 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Can't blame others when you are alone calling the shots. Major step towards getting a coup against you. 

Or others can't be blamed if people think Putin is calling all the shots. Sounds like the oligarchs are setting up their defense for the Hague. "He didn't even consult with us...we had no idea what he was doing" 

[27-25 2047]

Simply stated.

 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

2 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

Ukraine is so winning the info battle. The vids of homecomings, lifting up the people behind the front lines who keep the tip of the spear sharp, providing info on how Russians can surrender safely. On every level they are projecting the right messaging: we’re right, we’re confident and we’re gonna win this.

Imagery as well. Every pic and video shows them healthy, well fed, holding bad ass weapons, moving forward. 

[The Dog 44041]

 

[The Dog 44041]

 

[The Dog 44041]

 

[Teddyballgame 441]

 

[Pato del Muerto 52492]

Go ahead and bunch up there on an open road.  Need to be able to pass the bottle around. 

[Fico 1778]

28 minutes ago, The Dog said:

 

Think this may have been weather related? Recent clips have been overcast/raining. Girkin alludes to it during his talk as well, the Ukrainians have been moving through gaps in the Russian lines but that involves moving through areas with no roads. Hopefully the weather and ground improve for the Ukrainians to keep the pressure on.

[Bateshorn 9927]

One of the things the Ukrainians need to be careful with is the fall rasputitsa and their HIMARS, which are going to be more road limited with a shoot and scoot and thus vulnerable to drone strikes.

[Brisketexan 105119]

38 minutes ago, Fico said:

Think this may have been weather related? Recent clips have been overcast/raining. Girkin alludes to it during his talk as well, the Ukrainians have been moving through gaps in the Russian lines but that involves moving through areas with no roads. Hopefully the weather and ground improve for the Ukrainians to keep the pressure on.

 

15 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

One of the things the Ukrainians need to be careful with is the fall rasputitsa and their HIMARS, which are going to be more road limited with a shoot and scoot and thus vulnerable to drone strikes.

Yeah, that's something I've been wondering -- perhaps these recent (past week) super aggressive pushes by the UKA have been because they need to press the advantage while they can press it all along the battlefront (meaning, along areas where they have to move through fields and such).  Once things get muddy, their advances will be slowed, and will have to be along dangerous choke points/roads, so git now while the gittin' is good?

[RDCanecutter 26426]

21 hours ago, MillerEP said:

^lol

 

Pretty interesting how the Georgian guy, who understands what she says in Russian, refuses to speak a word of the language.

[Macanudo 12977]

3 hours ago, 27-25 said:

Simply stated.

 

I wish that had the whole clip.    The reporter asked Sanna if Putin has an off ramp.   She asked for clarification on what that meant.    And this was her reply.

[Pato del Muerto 52492]

3 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

I wish that had the whole clip.    The reporter asked Sanna if Putin has an off ramp.   She asked for clarification on what that meant.    And this was her reply.

I like the little laugh as she turned away, like why do i need to explain this?

Edited October 7, 2022 by Pato del Muerto

[texastough 1129]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

 

Yeah, that's something I've been wondering -- perhaps these recent (past week) super aggressive pushes by the UKA have been because they need to press the advantage while they can press it all along the battlefront (meaning, along areas where they have to move through fields and such).  Once things get muddy, their advances will be slowed, and will have to be along dangerous choke points/roads, so git now while the gittin' is good?

I'm wondering too if part of this is to gain strategic ground rather than simply gain as much ground as possible while conditions are ripe. For example, all of Russian occupied Kherson west of the Dnipro has been within HIMARS range, and Ukraine has taken advantage of that. But, after high value targets have been destroyed, there's a point where using HIMARS is more expensive than its worth. It was worth it to do the initial damage on the Nova Kakhova dam, but is it a good use of HIMARS to keep hitting Russia's repairs to the crossing? However, push south of Dudchany, as Ukraine has done the last few days, and it puts Nova Kakhova within Howitzer range. Much more cost effective to continue the campaign of destroying Russian logistics/ammo dumps/bases with Howitzers instead of HIMARS, with the added advantage that even a limited advance still throws the Russian front lines into chaos.

For the same reasons, it would not surprise me if Ukraine does not directly attack Svatove at first, but instead cut the glocs running through Svatove and bypass the town to get within artillery range of the glocs going to Starobilsk.

[tx 3 putt 76932]

3 hours ago, 27-25 said:

Simply stated.

 

 

hell yes, that's leadership !

[InkaUtexas 25918]

Would.... And calling Surly Dibs. 

[tx 3 putt 76932]

damn shame they didn't drop two on them !

 

[Pescado_Rojo 19416]

2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Would.... And calling Surly Dibs. 

Back of the line, bud. She's a known commodity around these parts. 

[InkaUtexas 25918]

4 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Back of the line, bud. She's a known commodity around these parts. 

Yeah, but I called Dibs. 

[tx 3 putt 76932]

13 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Yeah, but I called Dibs. 

[InkaUtexas 25918]

8 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Yeah, and will back it up with Rocco's pay stub so she will go out with me. 

[RockyMountainHighHorn 890]

32 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

damn shame they didn't drop two on them !

 

Ive seen videos of guys much closer get up and start running. How come the hit wasn’t very close but everyone was down? Bigger bomb? Playing dead?

[tx 3 putt 76932]

Just now, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

Ive seen videos of guys much closer get up and start running. How come the hit wasn’t very close but everyone was down? Bigger bomb? Playing dead?

 

you always need a bigger bomb 

[Mantis Toboggan, MD 1501]

Ive seen videos of guys much closer get up and start running. How come the hit wasn’t very close but everyone was down? Bigger bomb? Playing dead?

Probably because it is flat, open ground so the shrapnel has a larger effective area

[Schulz2.0 28951]

 

[MillerEP 30455]

 

[Pescado_Rojo 19416]

2 minutes ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

Ive seen videos of guys much closer get up and start running. How come the hit wasn’t very close but everyone was down? Bigger bomb? Playing dead?

difference in ordinance? I know early on they were using jerry-rigged RPG rounds and mortars and mainly hunting armor. Maybe they've figured out an anti-personnel "bomb" that throws a lot more shrapnel?  

[MillerEP 30455]

 

[tx 3 putt 76932]

4 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

 

take it out. cruise missiles would do the job 

[InkaUtexas 25918]

Shrapnel is a bitch. You can be 5 feet behind someone hitting a mine and not take a hit. Other times one person hits one and a squad is gone. What is interesting is the Russian troops have no idea about dispersal of force. Tells me their comms suck. Good. Fuck them.

These dropped drone munitions remind me a lot of mines. Ya never know. 

[Pato del Muerto 52492]

7 minutes ago, Mantis Toboggan, MD said:

Probably because it is flat, open ground so the shrapnel has a larger effective area

And they’re all shitfaced. If you are drunk, and then take a concussive wave and some shrapnel, are you going to hop up and start to sprint away?

9 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

Are those blackjacks, or something newer?

[MillerEP 30455]

 

[tx 3 putt 76932]

what does 'self propelled' mean ?

 

Edited October 7, 2022 by tx 3 putt