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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

A fascinating and cool aircraft. Originally developed as anti-shipping strike bomber. They all had their air to air refueling probes removed to comply with strategic weapons reduction treaties as without it, it is not an intercontinental bomber. 
 

Anyway, it’s a missile sled. Goes up, sorties outside of Ukrainian air defense range, fires cruise missiles and flies back. The fact we don’t see more of this is an indicator of a lack of cruise missiles (possibly also paranoia as they’d want them in the case of a NATO war). 

The nightmare of red storm rising. 

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9 hours ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

Care to explain more

There were primarily 2 test chambers. One was a "tunnel" made of refractory concrete with viewing portholes and a thick steel door on the end. That was for horizontal burning.

The main burn chamber is what looks like a silo. But instead of sheet metal, the silo is made of rectangle tube steel with interconnecting holes with coolant pumped and recirculated. The top part is an exhaust duct that leads to a scrubber. My understanding is they had different nozzles that they would put inside the chamber to see the burning properties; and also things try to burn different objects. Like I said, it's a bunch of mad scientists burning JP-8. For more scientific mumbo jumbo, go to:

https://www.sandia.gov/vqsec/facilities/thermal-test/

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39 minutes ago, Fico said:

The nightmare of red storm rising. 

The 60-70s Soviets produced some truly fascinating airplanes.  Not necessarily effective, but it’s sorta a “Engineers gone wild” situation. Kinda akin to the wild stuff we were doing with Piston engined planes in the 30s and 40s.

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2 hours ago, Fico said:

The nightmare of red storm rising. 

1 hour ago, Bateshorn said:

The 60-70s Soviets produced some truly fascinating airplanes.  Not necessarily effective, but it’s sorta a “Engineers gone wild” situation. Kinda akin to the wild stuff we were doing with Piston engined planes in the 30s and 40s.

Going to read Red Storm Rising again.  Got it off the bookshelf.

The Soviets made lots of almost singular-use weapons systems.  Kind of like we roll out a bomber, they roll out a fighter meant to counter only that bomber, etc.  same with ships, armored vehicles, etc.

As a kid in the late 80s, and later JROTC (AF) in high school, I had a shitload of full-color books covering all of the Soviet and NATO aircraft, etc.   Some amazing books.

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11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Going to read Red Storm Rising again.  Got it off the bookshelf.

The Soviets made lots of almost singular-use weapons systems.  Kind of like we roll out a bomber, they roll out a fighter meant to counter only that bomber, etc.  same with ships, armored vehicles, etc.

Oh, you will make a SR-71?  We will make the Mig-25!!!!! 

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Going to read Red Storm Rising again.  Got it off the bookshelf.

The Soviets made lots of almost singular-use weapons systems.  Kind of like we roll out a bomber, they roll out a fighter meant to counter only that bomber, etc.  same with ships, armored vehicles, etc.

As a kid in the late 80s, and later JROTC (AF) in high school, I had a shitload of full-color books covering all of the Soviet and NATO aircraft, etc.   Some amazing books.

I remember going to the bookstore as a kid and hoping the newest version of Jane's was out.

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28 minutes ago, Parliament said:

The book:

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Their military has not learned a damn thing since Chechnya. Every fucked up cultural problem revealed in the book is exactly what you see in the news today….the corruption, the brutality and lack of basic decency….the lack of NCO or officer control over (or care for) their men…the lack of basic supplies….the knee-jerk lying to superiors

Deja vu Comrade.  You will never prevail against a modern western military. 

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21 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

hehehe... Burn baby burn

 

If they somehow actually knockout the Kerch rail bridge before winter... Holy shit

We would be talking about totally fucking the Crimean supply line. All we need to see now is the feeder aqueduct at Nova Kokhovka for the Crimean water supply to get shutoff before winter and this would be an absolute humanitarian disaster by the end of the year.

 

 

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If they somehow actually knockout the Kerch rail bridge before winter... Holy shit
We would be talking about totally fucking the Crimean supply line. All we need to see now is the feeder aqueduct at Nova Kokhovka for the Crimean water supply to get shutoff before winter and this would be an absolute humanitarian disaster by the end of the year.

UKR is getting close to being able to HIMARS the supply lines going through Crimea.
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44 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

All we need to see now is the feeder aqueduct at Nova Kokhovka for the Crimean water supply to get shutoff before winter and this would be an absolute humanitarian disaster by the end of the year.

So the Russians would have to use snow in their toilets to flush them, just like we did in Austin?

Spoiler

Just kidding, Russian soldiers may loot toilets, but they seem to have an aversion to using them.  

 

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3 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

 

If those are fuel tanks that are burning, I would be willing to bet that the rail bridge collapses eventually as well.

The much bigger question to me was which direction was this trailing? From Russia or to Russia? How it seems to be setup it was coming from Russia into the Crimea (which should make sense because why send container cars full of fuel out of Crimea into Russia). That then implies that the explosive charges were planted on the train from inside of Russia...

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If those are fuel tanks that are burning, I would be willing to bet that the rail bridge collapses eventually as well.
The much bigger question to me was which direction was this trailing? From Russia or to Russia? How it seems to be setup it was coming from Russia into the Crimea (which should make sense because why send container cars full of fuel out of Crimea into Russia). That then implies that the explosive charges were planted on the train from inside of Russia...

Was just reading 4 of 14 fuel cars presently on fire and if/when all 14 burn up the Kerch rail bridge is toast.
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7 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

That then implies that the explosive charges were planted on the train from inside of Russia...

I saw somenody claim that it’s a false flag, and that makes no sense, since it cripples the entire defense of Crimea.  The Russians would  kill a bunch of civilians in Crimea or on the other side of the Russian border for a false flag operation before they’d destroy that bridge - it’s one of Putin’s pride and joys, and they need it to defend Crimea.

 

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I saw somenody claim that it’s a false flag, and that makes no sense, since it cripples the entire defense of Crimea.  The Russians would  kill a bunch of civilians in Crimea or on the other side of the Russian border for a false flag operation before they’d destroy that bridge - it’s one of Putin’s pride and joys, and they need it to defend Crimea.
 

Correct. Let’s take out the last rail supply line to Kherson/Crimea is never going to be a false flag.
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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

I saw somenody claim that it’s a false flag, and that makes no sense, since it cripples the entire defense of Crimea.  The Russians would  kill a bunch of civilians in Crimea or on the other side of the Russian border for a false flag operation before they’d destroy that bridge - it’s one of Putin’s pride and joys, and they need it to defend Crimea.

 

The direction the train was traveling is going to be something that gets overlooked in the initial shock of all of this, but if it was in fact traveling in from Russia, the propaganda machine will kick into overdrive.

If you look at the map, where else is it possible to plant explosives on the train outside of Russia itself? It can be argued that maybe it could have happened on Tuzia Island barely into Crimea, but how would that be possible because the train should be moving the entire time and those troops would be trapped afterwards...

 

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