The 2019 NBA Draft

[Goo Punch 4275]

 

[Dutchrudder 11243]

Here's a nice site for trying to decipher who owns what picks and if they transfer:  http://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Years/2019.htm

 

Edited November 28, 2018 by Dutchrudder

[RockyMountainHighHorn 927]

I think the magic needs to go after bol. Him, bamba,  and isaac could just form a wall. 

[SA-KC_Horn 1298]

Damnit...NYK needs to tank more games. Bol Bol is not a bad consolation prize, but want RJ or Zion.

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[hobbes2702 13469]

Didn’t Bol have a foot injury? I gotta imagine that will drop his stock some.

[BigOrange1 6611]

 

[Underdog 29174]

Hell of a crossover. 

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[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

So it begins.

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[LTtxfan 49996]

Iowa State freshman guard Talen Horton-Tucker has declared himself eligible for the NBA Draft after just one season with the Cyclones.   

(NCAA rule changes allow for him to declare for the draft with or without an agent. If he were to hire an agent, the agent cannot provide compensation. The deadline to return to school is May 29th.)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2019/04/01/iowa-states-horton-tucker-to-declare-for-nba-draft/39286031/

[LTtxfan 49996]

51 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Iowa State freshman guard Talen Horton-Tucker has declared himself eligible for the NBA Draft after just one season with the Cyclones.   

(NCAA rule changes allow for him to declare for the draft with or without an agent. If he were to hire an agent, the agent cannot provide compensation. The deadline to return to school is May 29th.)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2019/04/01/iowa-states-horton-tucker-to-declare-for-nba-draft/39286031/

 

 

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[Katfid54 9005]

39 minutes ago, Machinator said:

 

 

The "projected top-2 pick" is such a weird fucking thing to say.  Just say "the projected second pick."

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[Goo Punch 4275]

Seems like Steve Prohm is losing all of his best players. I'd take him in a heartbeat. 

[Burt Macklin 19230]

Iowa state gettin hit hard by early entrants. Tennessee is losing a ton of talent. This was Barnes’ year to make something happen.

[Burt Macklin 19230]

1 minute ago, Goo Punch said:

Seems like Steve Prohm is losing all of his best players. I'd take him in a heartbeat. 

Compared to Shaka, sure, but I wouldn’t want him for 4 years guaranteed while also paying Shaka’s buyout, so we’re stuck with him til the end of his contract.

Edited April 4, 2019 by Burt Macklin

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[MNLonghornFUKM 8982]

Man this draft is going to suck.

[BigOrange1 6611]

i think there are 3 guys to be excited about (zion, morant and barrett) and then a bunch of guys like culver and hunter who will be good players, but more along the lines of pj tucker than big time, multi year all stars.

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[Burt Macklin 19230]

Damn. This draft appears to be really, really weak after the top 2 or 3. 

Are there any euros expected to go in the lottery, because the college crop ain’t very good.

Edited April 10, 2019 by Burt Macklin

[LTtxfan 49996]

Recent USA Today ranking.....

1. Zion Williamson • Duke • Freshman • Forward • 6-7 • 285

2. Ja Morant • Murray State • Sophomore • Guard • 6-3 • 175

3. RJ Barrett • Duke • Freshman • Forward • 6-7 • 202 

4. De’Andre Hunter • Virginia • Sophomore • Forward • 6-7 • 225

5. Cam Reddish • Duke • Freshman • Forward • 6-8 • 218

6. Darius Garland • Vanderbilt • Freshman • Guard • 6-2 • 175

7. Jarrett Culver • Texas Tech • Sophomore • Guard • 6-6 • 195

8. Jaxson Hayes • Texas • Freshman • Center • 6-11 • 220

9. Coby White • North Carolina • Freshman • Guard • 6-5 • 185 

10. Romeo Langford • Indiana • Freshman • Guard • 6-6 • 215

11. Kevin Porter Jr. • Southern California • Freshman • Guard • 6-6 • 218

12. Sekou Doumbouya • Guinea • Forward • 6-9 • 210

13. Rui Hachimura • Gonzaga • Junior • Forward • 6-8 • 230

14. PJ Washington • Kentucky • Sophomore • Forward • 6-8 • 228

15. Keldon Johnson • Kentucky • Freshman • Guard • 6-6 • 211

16. Brandon Clarke • Gonzaga • Junior • Forward • 6-8 • 215

17. Nassir Little • North Carolina • Freshman • Forward • 6-6 • 220

18. Nickeil Alexander-Walker • Virginia Tech • Sophomore • Guard • 6-5 • 205 

19. Tyler Herro • Kentucky • Freshman • Guard • 6-5 • 195

20. Bol Bol • Oregon • Freshman • Center • 7-2 • 235

21. Jontay Porter • Missouri • Sophomore • Forward • 6-11 • 240

22. KZ Okpala • Stanford • Sophomore • Forward • 6-9 • 215

23. Goga Bitadze • Georgia (country) • Center • 6-11 • 250

24. Cam Johnson • North Carolina • Graduate student • Forward • 6-9 • 210

25. Bruno Fernando • Maryland • Sophomore • Center • 6-10 • 240

26. Talen Horton-Tucker • Iowa State • Freshman • Guard • 6-4 • 233

27. Grant Williams • Tennessee • Junior • Forward • 6-7 • 236

28. Matisse Thybulle • Washington • Senior • Guard • 6-5 • 200

29. Luguentz Dort • Arizona State • Freshman • Guard • 6-4 • 215

30. Ty Jerome • Virginia • Junior • Guard • 6-5 • 195

[Burt Macklin 19230]

49 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

I don’t even really like Barrett’s potential in the NBA that much after seeing more of him this year.  After Zion and Morant, I don’t know who I’d take at 3.   Maybe a healthy Bol Bol?

I’m not a big fan of Barrett either, but I do think his game will improved when he gets to the NBA with better spacing. I’d still take him 3. Culver was exposed in the title game when defended by NBA level defenders. Hunter reminds me of Mikal Bridget’s—purely a 3 and D guy. He’s shockingly bad at dribbling. Bol Bol is a huge health concern and he’s likely to drop, so basically I’d take Barrett third just because I don’t see any other good options.

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[BigOrange1 6611]

i realize it doesn't matter in terms of being drafted, but hayes is one of those guys who isn't going to play a meaningful minute in the nba for at least 2 years if he goes to the draft this year.  he is SO far away from being ready.

[Goo Punch 4275]

yeah looking back at this year's lottery will be very interesting for years to come. we're right around the time in history where guys who leave early (especially after only one or two years) will no longer be expected to be a cornerstone piece right away even as a top 10 pick. this is the time where guys leave college at 19 as projected lottery picks knowing that they still have years of development before they're ready to be big time players.

I really don't know anything about off-court NBA dealings, so I'll ask- how often do lottery picks get traded within two years of being drafted? I'd imagine that a prudent GM or experienced front office could hit some real licks by trading for recent top picks who aren't panning out because they aren't being developed well- so guys like Hayes, Culver, Hunter, Reddish- banking on their own organization's ability to develop them. I have to imagine that player development is going to play a bigger role than it ever has going forward in the league. What you do with your pick will be just as important as who you pick when everyone in the draft is a project.

[BradInATX 9208]

47 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Oh no, how could we ever trade Brandon Ingram, Kyle Kuzma and what will probably be mid-late 1st rounders for Anthony Davis or Kawhi Leonard?  And you want Lonzo or Josh Hart, too?  The horror!  And btw, Boston says Jaylen Brown is untouchable!

LOL - that crap cracks me up. I'm almost certain that the Lakers would trade their entire roster save Lebron for Kawhi or Davis. They'd have a better record with those two and a bunch of bottom and middle-tier free agents than they had this year. 

It's mostly the fans who have those delusional takes though. And it's like 90% Lakers fans.

You're not getting a star without an all-star caliber player or two. The Spurs haul for Leonard is basically the floor. They were never going to take whatever terrible offer the Lakers gave them. Nor were they going to take Fultz and spares. There is literally no package outside of Lebron or one of Simmons/Embiid they'd have taken. 

Edited April 11, 2019 by BradInATX

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[NowThis 931]

what about that Purdue guard who hit 3s from 35' ? 

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5 minutes ago, NowThis said:

what about that Purdue guard who hit 3s from 35' ? 

Are you talking about Carsen Edwards? He declared.

[Vic Mackey 47953]

1 minute ago, Machinator said:

Are you talking about Carsen Edwards? He declared.

Where is he projected to go?

[Goo Punch 4275]

2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Where is he projected to go?

late lottery.

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1 minute ago, Goo Punch said:

late lottery.

Where are you seeing that?

He seems to be in the 30-50 range.

[Goo Punch 4275]

8 minutes ago, Machinator said:

Where are you seeing that?

He seems to be in the 30-50 range.

for some reason i thought i saw him around 15-17 in usa today's post-tourney mock but you're right, that's where he is.

[Goo Punch 4275]

also i think the mocks have Bol Bol sliding too far. I get it that he's an injury concern, but he went from being a top 5-7 pick to a top 18-21 pick after one injury. i'd have absolutely no problem taking him pretty much anywhere after 10, and maybe even earlier if i was convinced that he isn't injury prone.

[texasstrong12 4668]

Carsen Edwards is an interesting player in the draft. If he was a couple inches taller he would be a top 10 pick. 

 

[Catdaddyhorn 3466]

6 minutes ago, texasstrong12 said:

Carsen Edwards is an interesting player in the draft. If he was a couple inches taller he would be a top 10 pick. 

 

Exactly. He's clearly a player who will get drafted later than he should, but will stick on a roster and actually contribute during his rookie year.

[NowThis 931]

Eric Bledsoe is the same height and Trae Young is 1" taller -- per official listings.  I think Edwards can be a decent player , especially since he can launch and hit so well. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8982]

May have some jumpers off of the brooklyn bridge if the Knicks don't walk away without either Williamson or morant

[Catdaddyhorn 3466]

58 minutes ago, NowThis said:

Eric Bledsoe is the same height and Trae Young is 1" taller -- per official listings.  I think Edwards can be a decent player , especially since he can launch and hit so well. 

Bledsoe is much more explosive and to my eye he's much longer than Edwards. As to how he compares to Trae Young he hasnt really demonstrated much of a PG skillset.  I view him more in the mold of Isaiah Thomas 2.0 or Kemba Walker, ie a short 2 guard. 

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[d2o 1603]

man there are a lot of guys that I've heard nothing about popping up and declaring.