Kareem Hunt

[kevwun 15675]

The only reason that wasn't a lot worse was because there were so many damn people holding him back.  He was clearly out of control and meant to kick her ass.  I wonder how many fuckups it's going to take to get Goodell fired.

Edited November 30, 2018 by kevwun

[Dutchrudder 11124]

Don't worry guys, she's fine, she went through NFL concussion protocol and was cleared.

Edited November 30, 2018 by Dutchrudder

[Jhawk 1075]

6 minutes ago, Texas25 said:

The kick was probably the most disgusting thing, she looked out of it and disoriented after her head hit the wall and then he walks up and kicks her. If that is a guy y'all want to stand by then it is an interesting hill to die on.

I didn't see the kick at the end.  Insult to injury for sure.  But knocking down a guy that runs into a woman is probably not going to get the disgust and the attention that Ray Rice did.

I want to be clear... I am not a chiefs fan and I do not condone this type of behavior.  I live in KC so I identify with the chiefs but I have never been an NFL fan.  I've been to 3 games in my life, none in the last 10 years. 

I'm just saying that the outrage this will produce going to be far more because the NFL is getting caught trying to cover it up (like Ray Rice) than what it would have been if they just suspended him for the first 2 games of the season.  In fact, if they would have suspended him and then the tape was released in week 13 then people might actually be saying "that's it?  You suspended a guy for pushing a belligerent woman away from him?"

The NFL needs to just be proactive about this shit.  I can't understand why they think they are more powerful than their fan base, especially when ratings have declined because of them alienating various parts of their fan base over the last several years.

[immortal13 4059]

6 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Don't worry guys, she's fine, she went through NFL concussion protocol and was cleared.

Lulz

[immortal13 4059]

7 minutes ago, Jhawk said:

But knocking down a guy that runs into a woman is probably not going to get the disgust and the attention that Ray Rice did.

Why do you keep trying to minimize this act? He knocked that dude into her and they both crashed into the wall like ragdolls. Try plowing someone like that at your local walmart and see if you don't find yourself in a jail cell.

[Nicole44 22028]

There is no excuse for that? Roids? I do like the fact the guy was trying to stop it

[immortal13 4059]

Just now, Nicole44 said:

There is no excuse for that? Roids? I do like the fact the guy was trying to stop it

One of the other guys snatched a cell phone from a different woman who was videotaping. He knew what was up 

[Deguello 54]

3 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Why do you keep trying to minimize this act? He knocked that dude into her and they both crashed into the wall like ragdolls. Try plowing someone like that at your local walmart and see if you don't find yourself in a jail cell.

Saying it’s not as bad as what Rice did isn’t minimizing it, it’s simply comparing the two events. 

Saying “It’s not that big of a deal because...” is minimizing. 

[Nicole44 22028]

Women can be crazy. Uncool. Say shitty things at the worse possible moment. I know. I’m that asshole. But you don’t hit back. Don’t start. Be pissed! Punch a wall but never a person. 

 

Never hit a person.just walk away.

Edited November 30, 2018 by Nicole44

[Jhawk 1075]

3 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Why do you keep trying to minimize this act? He knocked that dude into her and they both crashed into the wall like ragdolls. Try plowing someone like that at your local walmart and see if you don't find yourself in a jail cell.

How is that minimizing the act?  I'm pointing out a clear fact.  Pushing someone that knocks down someone else is in ZERO way equivalent to giving a right hook directly to a someone's jaw.  It just isn't the same.  I said he should be suspended and he should have been suspended when it happened.  But the simple fact is that pushing people and knocking people out and dragging them down the hall by their hair are two completely different levels of violence.  ALL VIOLENCE is wrong.  But if you think the two examples are equal then I assume you're the first in line for life sentences for carrying a gram of weed because that must be the same as 200 kilos of coke in your mind.

[Uncle Nate 2097]

31 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

I came here for the "pick up Spencer Ware" posts. But honestly every Hunt owner should already have him handcuffed with Ware.

Just picked him up.

[immortal13 4059]

He is minimizing it. He keeps saying Hunt pushed a guy who then just happened to "run into her." That is not what happened

[immortal13 4059]

1 minute ago, Jhawk said:

How is that minimizing the act?  I'm pointing out a clear fact.  Pushing someone that knocks down someone else is in ZERO way equivalent to giving a right hook directly to a someone's jaw.  It just isn't the same.  I said he should be suspended and he should have been suspended when it happened.  But the simple fact is that pushing people and knocking people out and dragging them down the hall by their hair are two completely different levels of violence.  ALL VIOLENCE is wrong.  But if you think the two examples are equal then I assume you're the first in line for life sentences for carrying a gram of weed because that must be the same as 200 kilos of coke in your mind.

Look maybe you don't understand the concept. You are minimizing what was done to her by Hunt. I never said this was equivalent to the Rice incident. Not sure where you are getting that.

[Nicole44 22028]

2 minutes ago, Jhawk said:

How is that minimizing the act?  I'm pointing out a clear fact.  Pushing someone that knocks down someone else is in ZERO way equivalent to giving a right hook directly to a someone's jaw.  It just isn't the same.  I said he should be suspended and he should have been suspended when it happened.  But the simple fact is that pushing people and knocking people out and dragging them down the hall by their hair are two completely different levels of violence.  ALL VIOLENCE is wrong.  But if you think the two examples are equal then I assume you're the first in line for life sentences for carrying a gram of weed because that must be the same as 200 kilos of coke in your mind.

I liked your post but this seems like oppression Olympics here. I was treated like crap so it’s ok to be an asshole 

[Deguello 54]

Just now, Nicole44 said:

I liked your post but this seems like oppression Olympics here. I was treated like crap so it’s ok to be an asshole 

It strikes me more as something like Rae Carruth > Ray Rice > Kareem Hunt on the egregiousness scale, though none of the three actions are acceptable. 

[ClubWhatever 12087]

He’s a young man so he’s excused.  Oh that plus he plays on my team and he’s my best player.  That too   

 

 

[immortal13 4059]

1 minute ago, Deguello said:

It strikes me more as something like Rae Carruth > Ray Rice > Kareem Hunt on the egregiousness scale, though none of the three actions are acceptable. 

Where would you say Ezekiel Elliot fits in on that list?

[DejaVu 39]

38 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

I came here for the "pick up Spencer Ware" posts. But honestly every Hunt owner should already have him handcuffed with Ware.

Tyreek Hill is enough of an established star that he gets his very own handcuffs? 

[BurntOrange&White 39709]

Looks more like he used his foot to push her back down than an actual kick. Not saying it’s right thing to do because it’s definitely not

[Deguello 54]

1 minute ago, immortal13 said:

Where would you say Ezekiel Elliot fits in on that list?

If he did what we was accused of, between Rice and Hunt, though I admit I didn’t follow his saga particularly closely. 

[Covri 6231]

Lawrence Phillips laughs at how soft running backs are these days. Didn’t even push her down the stairs...

[Nicole44 22028]

Just now, Deguello said:

It strikes me more as something like Rae Carruth > Ray Rice > Kareem Hunt on the egregiousness scale, though none of the three actions are acceptable. 

I read about a white guy that killed his wife who was pregnant and their two daughters in Colorado. The officials  found enough proof that he killed them. Proof they knew he killed his daughters (not the I strangled my wife in a rage defense after seeing she killed their kids) was because he was texting his co worker about going to an a remote oil field where he worked (while watching his daughters play during a birthday party) where those same daughters and his pregnant wife was found. Dead. Sorry if I don’t feel for guys who hit. I don’t understand guys who hit. We just got through some stuff st work where I helped in the middle of the night hand off(it’s a train you never know where they go) she was beat to fuck. She will probably go back. That’s what they said while we were dropping her off. They always go back because they have no where  to go. 

[Deguello 54]

1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

I read about a white guy that killed his wife who was pregnant and their two daughters in Colorado. The officials  found enough proof that he killed them. Proof they knew he killed his daughters (not the I strangled my wife in a rage defense after seeing she killed their kids) was because he was texting his co worker about going to an a remote oil field where he worked (while watching his daughters play during a birthday party) where those same daughters and his pregnant wife was found. Dead. Sorry if I don’t feel for guys who hit. I don’t understand guys who hit. We just got through some stuff st work where I helped in the middle of the night hand off(it’s a train you never know where they go) she was beat to fuck. She will probably go back. That’s what they said while we were dropping her off. They always go back because they have no where  to go. 

I guess I missed the part where I justified violence. I’m not really seeing the relevance of some obviously bad and violent scenarios. 

[Vic Mackey 46937]

46 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Was Elliott arrested?

Elliott has never been arrested in his life.

[Nicole44 22028]

4 minutes ago, Deguello said:

I guess I missed the part where I justified violence. I’m not really seeing the relevance of some obviously bad and violent scenarios. 

I put myself at risk helping people. It’s scary what you see. Consider it like an Underground Railroad of domestic violence. I’m not trying to appropriate the term. We hide them. We drop them off. Once we do the chain is burned. Mostly it’s males that are abusers but they come back around and strike at anyone that helps.i see videos like that and realize They will keep beating down someone. I will always help. But if your relationship has deteriorated to the point where hitting is an option. This is not acceptable.

[Sleepygrad 1029]

7 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Elliott has never been arrested in his life.

he's still young

[Scholz 11937]

Just got Spencer Ware off the waiver wire.

[Foosters 17765]

What I'm learning from this incident is that there are 2 victims.  This woman and poor Dallas Cowboy fans.

[immortal13 4059]

10 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I put myself at risk helping people. It’s scary what you see. Consider it like an Underground Railroad of domestic violence. I’m not trying to appropriate the term. We hide them. We drop them off. Once we do the chain is burned. Mostly it’s males that are abusers but they come back around and strike at anyone that helps.i see videos like that and realize They will keep beating down someone. I will always help. But if your relationship has deteriorated to the point where hitting is an option. This is not acceptable.

I think you are having a completely different discussion than everyone else, but rock on

[Uncle Nate 2097]

So wait...we have video of Hunt assaulting the lady, and the NFL does nothing.  However, Zeke gets a 6 game suspension without any proof whatsoever, just the ex-girlfriend's claim.

Is that correct?  

[Dennis Taylor 18715]

15 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I put myself at risk helping people. It’s scary what you see. Consider it like an Underground Railroad of domestic violence. I’m not trying to appropriate the term. We hide them. We drop them off. Once we do the chain is burned. Mostly it’s males that are abusers but they come back around and strike at anyone that helps.i see videos like that and realize They will keep beating down someone. I will always help. But if your relationship has deteriorated to the point where hitting is an option. This is not acceptable.

I am in no way condoning what this piece of feces did or any of his buddies, but the video interviews make this look more like a random party/attempted hookup than any sort of relationships to me  

Edited November 30, 2018 by Dennis Taylor

[Vic Mackey 46937]

[Foosters 17765]

14 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:

So wait...we have video of Hunt assaulting the lady, and the NFL does nothing.  However, Zeke gets a 6 game suspension without any proof whatsoever, just the ex-girlfriend's claim.

Is that correct?  

Eh, kinda. A person's account of what happened shouldn't be characterized as "no proof whatsoever."

[SDG 3319]

1 hour ago, SA-KC_Horn said:

Something was said? No audio.

Why didn't she leave? Groupie?

Alcohol involved. Yes.

3am.  Bad things happen at that time.

Video released, 3 game vacation. 

Maybe like, Warren Sapp, he refused to pay? 

[SDG 3319]

1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

Women can be crazy. Uncool. Say shitty things at the worse possible moment. I know. I’m that asshole. But you don’t hit back. Don’t start. Be pissed! Punch a wall but never a person. 

 

Never hit a person.just walk away.

Unrelated to this, but women shouldn’t hit either...

['stache 21778]

24 minutes ago, SDG said:

Unrelated to this, but women shouldn’t hit either...

Yup.  But it's also correct to say a man should in almost no circumstance ever respond by hitting a woman, especially when the man is much bigger and stronger, and even more especially if that guy is an NFL athlete.  There is no justification whatsoever for a man that size to use force against a woman (extreme exceptions aside like if she has a knife or is holding the red button to a nuke or something).  You can say the woman shouldn't have hit him first, and that is a true statement, but nothing justifies hitting back in response.  Unless you're a Sooner fan and the guy scores lots of TDs.

Edited November 30, 2018 by 'stache

[Drew 2331]

Well it'll be interesting to see what happens.

 

My guess is No Star, weak punishment

 

 

[SDG 3319]

9 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Yup.  But it's also correct to say a man should in almost no circumstance ever respond by hitting a woman, especially when the man is much bigger and stronger, and even more especially if that guy is an NFL athlete.  There is no justification whatsoever for a man that size to use force against a woman (extreme exceptions aside like if she has a knife or is holding the red button to a nuke or something).  You can say the woman shouldn't have hit him first, and that is a true statement, but nothing justifies hitting back in response.  Unless you're a Sooner fan and the guy scores lots of TDs.

Its undebateble men should never hit women. My response was related to the “hit back” which implies the women hit first. They shouldn’t hit either and they shouldnt get a public opinion free pass for it.  

[Helobious 9488]

I wonder when these stupid cunts will learn it's a bad idea to go after and provoke a professional athlete that's probably 4x as strong as you are. Probably the same day that these stupid pro athletes learn it's a great idea to just walk away from such situations, or just improve their circle of friends entirely. 

[Patrick Bateman 3903]

 

[Radical Larry 28529]

And he's gone. 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2018 by Radical Larry

[Southernthunder 38]

Redskins will pick him up. 

[Deguello 54]

Worst case, he can fall back on his savings and shrewd investments. 

[MillerEP 30347]

3 minutes ago, Southernthunder said:

Redskins will pick him up. 

Not while he's on the Exempt/Commissioner's Permission List

[RockyMountainHighHorn 890]

I came in to say F*%•!!!!!!!!!!!!! Damnit to hell.

[Jhawk 1075]

Once again, if the chiefs would have just addressed this early in the year they might have gotten away with just suspending him and then saying "we took action."  But the NFL are a bunch of dickbags and they try to cover it up instead of take action.  I hope their rating start to go down again.  The league is out of control.

[Ghost of Shag 2585]

Damn. That escalated quickly.

Edited December 1, 2018 by Ghost of Shag

[Hank_Hill 18519]

What a kick in the teeth. 

[Jhawk 1075]

Good for the chiefs.  They probably had Larry johnson flashbacks and with them being in the SB picture just move on.  Ware has done very well in this offense.  They can find another athlete to run like Hunt.

[Steel Shank 9416]

Bet he goes back and gets his degree.

 

In Kung Fu.