Jump to content

Fourth Quarter

Slacks

By Slacks
in Football

 Share

Recommended Posts

Slacks

Slacks 6,822

Posted
Posted

What in the hell is our 4th quarter offensive play calling philosophy?

We can't seem to do jack shit in Q4.  We lost this game in 4Q. We lost by 12. 4Q score: 12-0.

I don't have the feels right now, but I'm guessing our 4Q scoring is among the worst in the nation.

 

I don't think it's simply getting conservative, either... because we don't get conservative, we just get bad.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
bschoolprof

bschoolprof 6,264

Posted
Posted

I've long complained about our inability/unwillingness to run the ball in key moments.  It really came back to bite us in the ass in this game.  If Herman wants to run his ball control, "no mas" spread running offense, we have to get production from our RBs.  And we have to commit to it.  Particularly in the 4th quarter.  That's the time the other team should be saying "no mas."  We can't chuck the ball down the field every down hoping for a big play or PI.  If we want to do that, switch offenses.  

We gave the ball to our RBs a total of 3 times for 4 yards in the  ENTIRE 4th quarter, and includes two series where we were only down 3 points.  Just terrible.    

 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
po elvis

po elvis 2,076

Posted
Posted

First drive we moved the ball and didn't get the PI in third down so had to punt.

Second drive we got ball at our 8. We did make mistake of running in first down like we almost always do  when we are backed up. Then we get the safety.

third drive we moved the ball but had to score quickly for it to even matter so ended up with INT.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
taybo20

taybo20 2,877

Posted
Posted

I can’t explain it. We used to be fucking horrendous in the 3rd, now it’s the 4th. The offense has to continue to play aggressive but there seems to be some sort of laxidaiscial shit that happens because we just start getting beat. But I have to look at coaching on this. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Slacks

Slacks 6,822

Posted
  • Author
Posted
First drive we moved the ball and didn't get the PI in third down so had to punt.
Second drive we got ball at our 8. We did make mistake of running in first down like we almost always do  when we are backed up. Then we get the safety.
third drive we moved the ball but had to score quickly for it to even matter so ended up with INT.
Should have run it again instead of dropping into the end zone with the back side having no receiver and a PA fake and no eyes on the free blitz side. That's a bad call for the field position. It just is.

We abandoned the run, and they abandoned run defense... And we never did again.
Link to comment
Share on other sites
satyanash

satyanash 14,551

Posted
Posted
23 minutes ago, SideSlip said:

Wow, I’ve never noticed this all season.  Thanks, OP!

Yeah, and every time a thread about it it started people just repeat "Doesn't matter, we won" like a broken record.

Maryland. Tulsa. blOU x2. K-State. Tech. Kansas. We've lost the fourth quarter time and time again. But people would rather stick their hands in the sand and pretend it isn't a significant issue.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
taybo20

taybo20 2,877

Posted
Posted
6 minutes ago, Snacks said:

Should have run it again instead of dropping into the end zone with the back side having no receiver and a PA fake and no eyes on the free blitz side. That's a bad call for the field position. It just is.

We abandoned the run, and they abandoned run defense... And we never did again.

Are you talking about the safety?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
NowThis

NowThis 931

Posted
Posted
29 minutes ago, po elvis said:

First drive we moved the ball and didn't get the PI in third down so had to punt.

Second drive we got ball at our 8. We did make mistake of running in first down like we almost always do  when we are backed up. Then we get the safety.

third drive we moved the ball but had to score quickly for it to even matter so ended up with INT.

most important play of the game, changed momentum, robbed UT of points. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
USC_TMB

USC_TMB 405

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Snacks said:

What in the hell is our 4th quarter offensive play calling philosophy?

We can't seem to do jack shit in Q4.  We lost this game in 4Q. We lost by 12. 4Q score: 12-0.

I don't have the feels right now, but I'm guessing our 4Q scoring is among the worst in the nation

Clay Helton says hold my beer

Link to comment
Share on other sites
taybo20

taybo20 2,877

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Snacks said:

Yes. It was a poorly designed play call for the spot. Fidgety that we competently missed the CB blitz.

Any blitz from the back side would have been trouble. That's ok at the 30, but not the goal line.

Actually if Sam looks pre snap or even listens to CJ, changes the protection and/or throws over the blitz to CJ its a positive play for us. But Sam never saw it pre snap or even after the snap. It wasn’t a bad play, but it requires recognition, and a hot route. Ingram was bad at blitz pickup today. Not all his fault there tho. But this speaks to a larger issue in our passing game

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Slacks

Slacks 6,822

Posted
  • Author
Posted
Actually if Sam looks pre snap or even listens to CJ, changes the protection and/or throws over the blitz to CJ its a positive play for us. But Sam never saw it pre snap or even after the snap. It wasn’t a bad play, but it requires recognition, and a hot route. Ingram was bad at blitz pickup today. Not all his fault there tho. But this speaks to a larger issue in our passing game
Nobody saw it coming. But I still think a play that drops back into the end zone and only has the QB looking at one side of the field is bad.

Or Sam really fd up the execution.

Both?
Link to comment
Share on other sites
taybo20

taybo20 2,877

Posted
Posted
Just now, Snacks said:

Nobody saw it coming. But I still think a play that drops back into the end zone and only has the QB looking at one side of the field is bad.

Or Sam really fd up the execution.

Both?

Well Sam should have looked is what I’m saying. Because the safety who ended up in coverage was 15 yards off CJ. It would have been easy pitch and catch. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Hamttx

Hamttx 421

Posted
Posted

There is a reason that blitz came from the right side, and why it was so effective. I have since rewatched the game and I am now 100% sure that Sam’s arm was not healthy. And it is more of just a shoulder issue. How he held the football was the most obvious (that was mentioned after his TD run). But he continued to favor his right side. Unless he is now left handed that is unusual. And what some are saying that he was locking on to receivers, was in fact a physical issue that was causing, at least to some degree, discomfort when he panned his head left to right. If you watch it you will see a smooth motion until he gets roughly to center, then it just locks and he starts moving his torso to compensate. This little quirk continued through the fourth quarter, and ultimately to the safety.

Which leads me to point out that someone  else saw it too. OU not only blitzed Sam’s right side. They made sure to bring it from as far out as they could and still have time to get to Sam, while trying to find a blind spot in his peripheral vision. The defender held off until Sam turned his head to his left, once he did he never looked back to his right and was screwed. I believe healthy he would have picked it up.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
dcar00

dcar00 14,288

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, po elvis said:

First drive we moved the ball and didn't get the PI in third down so had to punt.

Second drive we got ball at our 8. We did make mistake of running in first down like we almost always do  when we are backed up. Then we get the safety.

third drive we moved the ball but had to score quickly for it to even matter so ended up with INT.

that back side corner blitz down 3 with a chance to drive and win the game is deja fucking vu.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
WBT

WBT 20,624

Posted
Posted
5 hours ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

 


To be fair, we were moving the ball pretty well the first time until the missed PI call against LJH. That was a massive moment in the game.

 

I wouldn't say we were moving it well.  We converted 3rd and 10 on that drive on a PI against CJ.  The blown call on LJH was on 3rd and 9.  3rd and longs aren't going to lead to success.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Guest Lobo

Guest Lobo

Posted
Posted

We're the opposite of A&M.  We don't lose because we ran out of time.  We lose because there's too much time left.  

I don't think I entered a game all season with a BAC over .05.  And I made good decisions for most games up until the 4th quarter.  But Maryland, Tulsa, Kansas State, Baylor, WVU, Texas Tech, Kansas, and Oklahoma TWICE...all 4th quarters that caused me to probably have 3-5 drinks in a single quarter.  Every one of them a nerve-racking beatdown of bullshit.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
taybo20

taybo20 2,877

Posted
Posted
9 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

except CJ looked like he was running a 40 yard dash

Yeah there was no check made. Sam never looked and CJ was never told to do anything differently.

Which is my other point I’ve made in regards to coaching and our wrs/qb. Coverage recognition and route running are things we need to improve on across the board. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing


Football ... Basketball ... Baseball ... Other Sports ... Futbol ... 🤫995🤫 ... Gambling ... Movies & TV ... Music ... Hobbies ... Lulz ... Food & Travel ... Daily Texan ... Business and Markets ... Cloak Room ... Help ... For Sale ... Board Discussion ... Subscribe!... Donate!... Advertise... COOKIE MONSTER!

×
×
  • Create New...