What Podcasts Are You Listening to?

[NorthLoop 14205]

On 11/18/2020 at 1:29 PM, Angry Gorilla said:

There is a podcast done by 2 UT students about the Jennifer Cave/Colton Pitonyak/Laura Hall case called The Orange Tree.  It's well done, but there isn't a lot of new information for those of us that followed the case from the beginning.

 

On 11/18/2020 at 2:57 PM, NorthLoop said:

I'll listen if only for the nostalgia 

Listened to the first 4 eps. It's pretty good. Like you said no groundbreaking new info, but they do interview Colton himself and his family. Don't think I've ever heard from any of them before. Man I had forgotten it was Aug 2005. What a wonderful time that was.

[Jive Turkey 12598]

just finished Tom Brown's Body.  seems like it should be a suicide, but why was his backpack found 4 miles from his car, and his phone was found 9 miles from his car, and his body was found about 12-14 miles from his car?  there is no way in hell that kid parked his car and then walked that far before he committed suicide.  zero chance.

so if he did kill himself, how did it go down so that his body ended up so far away from his Durango?  something fishy had to have happened.

i feel pretty confident in saying that the mom is hiding something.  she knows more than she's led on.

Sheriff Nathan Lewis was way in over his head.  i don't think he was in on anything, but he was a novice.

Phil Klein is so full of himself and, as stated above, is fleecing Penny Meeks for a lot of money with wild ass theories to get her to keep paying him.

i hope there is closure on this.

[safe sex 11728]

On 11/18/2020 at 3:16 PM, SimonBolivar said:

The one podcast that never gets old

 

 

I've listened through every episode available more times than I can count. It's too bad Ricky Gervais isn't funny unless he's also around Stephen and/or Karl. 

[billfromlaketravis 11481]

On 11/18/2020 at 1:29 PM, Angry Gorilla said:

There is a podcast done by 2 UT students about the Jennifer Cave/Colton Pitonyak/Laura Hall case called The Orange Tree.  It's well done, but there isn't a lot of new information for those of us that followed the case from the beginning.

Very good podcast especially for recent grads. I they’ll do well in the true crime podcast game. 
 

I didn’t buy everything Colton was selling, but he does raise some interesting questions. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by billfromlaketravis

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On 11/30/2020 at 7:08 AM, trauma babe said:

I've listened through every episode available more times than I can count. It's too bad Ricky Gervais isn't funny unless he's also around Stephen and/or Karl. 

that's because Stephen is the funny guy.  Ricky's only contribution to the duo/trio is to laugh incessantly every 3 minutes.

[jeevsie 3734]

Thanks for fall of civ!

[NorthLoop 14205]

Dead and Gone - another Payne Lindsey project. Focuses on a double murder of some young California Dead-heads in the 80s. 

It's good and does a good job getting into the whole DeadHead culture. 

[Kyle 207]

On 11/19/2020 at 5:59 PM, NorthLoop said:

 

Listened to the first 4 eps. It's pretty good. Like you said no groundbreaking new info, but they do interview Colton himself and his family. Don't think I've ever heard from any of them before. Man I had forgotten it was Aug 2005. What a wonderful time that was.

Listening to it ... is there a broad contingent that thinks the crazy girl actually did it. I know these things are always spun, but she definitely seems more crazy and likely to have a motive.

[NorthLoop 14205]

Yeah I always thought she had more of a role than she let on - the podcast seems to push even more in that direction. Looks like her alibi is pretty bunk and yes she had way more motive than he did. Also the multiple people claiming that they overheard her saying she did it, some of whom gain nothing from that. 

Another really interesting thing that I had never heard about was the 2 dudes who wanted to testify that they had been there that night, and instead of letting them testify, the DA's office fucking added years to their existing sentences for making false statements... what. the.. fuck?????

[Kyle 207]

50 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Yeah I always thought she had more of a role than she let on - the podcast seems to push even more in that direction. Looks like her alibi is pretty bunk and yes she had way more motive than he did. Also the multiple people claiming that they overheard her saying she did it, some of whom gain nothing from that. 

Another really interesting thing that I had never heard about was the 2 dudes who wanted to testify that they had been there that night, and instead of letting them testify, the DA's office fucking added years to their existing sentences for making false statements... what. the.. fuck?????

This is one of the things that drives me crazy about today's lazy "journalism." According to the podcast, the DA claimed one man actually was in jail on the night he claimed to be at Colton's. But they just left it hanging, never followed up. That's pretty black and white - he either was or was not. They could have done a little research and figured that out (assuming maybe he was or Colton's people would have fought it but  who knows).
 

Even the last episode where Hall messages, she seems crazy and unstable. I missed her alibi debunking - I thought she was spending the night with "Robert."

[NorthLoop 14205]

6 minutes ago, Kyle said:

This is one of the things that drives me crazy about today's lazy "journalism." According to the podcast, the DA claimed one man actually was in jail on the night he claimed to be at Colton's. But they just left it hanging, never followed up. That's pretty black and white - he either was or was not. They could have done a little research and figured that out (assuming maybe he was or Colton's people would have fought it but  who knows).
 

Even the last episode where Hall messages, she seems crazy and unstable. I missed her alibi debunking - I thought she was spending the night with "Robert."

The guy the DA claimed was in jail said that he was actually out on bond. When the podcasters tried to get the jail records they got nowhere with the idiots at the jail. 

If I recall on the alibi thing, the dude she was staying with had a thing for her and may have been covering for her. His roommate said he didn't see her there that night. 

[Kyle 207]

22 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

The guy the DA claimed was in jail said that he was actually out on bond. When the podcasters tried to get the jail records they got nowhere with the idiots at the jail. 

If I recall on the alibi thing, the dude she was staying with had a thing for her and may have been covering for her. His roommate said he didn't see her there that night. 

Thanks. I was multi-tasking and might have dosed ... so apologies to the podcasters ... I thought that would have seemed pretty easy to verify. That is shitty ... Capt. Obvious (calm down lawyers) but I really dislike the adversarial system that places winning above justice. Given how Colton's family PI seemed to be bird-dogging, I am surprised he did not uncover the truth.

Edited December 2, 2020 by Kyle

[NorthLoop 14205]

2 minutes ago, Kyle said:

Thanks. I was multi-tasking and might have dosed ... so apologies to the podcasters ... I thought that would have seemed pretty easy to verify. That is shitty ... Capt. Obvious (calm down lawyers) but I really dislike the adversarial system that places winning above justice.

Yeah and the whole "we already got our guy so we don't wanna even think about this anymore" attitude that they all have after a conviction.

[Kyle 207]

<TriggerWarning>I enjoy Gary Meece's The Case Against about the Robin Hood Hills murders. He was a longtime Memphis-area newspaper reporter. Actual warning, it is one of the poorest executed podcasts, and the early episodes are laughably brutal; but his content is detailed and thorough if you can fight there the hilarious production (lack of) value.</TriggerWarning>

[billfromlaketravis 11481]

3 hours ago, Kyle said:

<TriggerWarning>I enjoy Gary Meece's The Case Against about the Robin Hood Hills murders. He was a longtime Memphis-area newspaper reporter. Actual warning, it is one of the poorest executed podcasts, and the early episodes are laughably brutal; but his content is detailed and thorough if you can fight there the hilarious production (lack of) value.</TriggerWarning>

Reminds me of Gangland Wire with Gary Jenkins. 
 

He’s a former Kansas City organized crime cop. He’s an encyclopedia of knowledge on the Civella Family, The Outfit, and the Vegas skim, but...awful production value. And worse narration. Just one fossil interviewing another fossil. 
 

If y’all are looking for a good mob podcast, Mobbed Up : The Fight for Las Vegas was excellent. Leftie, Tony, Teamsters Loans, The Outfit, KC, the skim, all the good stuff. It’s a Casino pod with a lot more details. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

On 11/19/2020 at 5:59 PM, NorthLoop said:

 

Listened to the first 4 eps. It's pretty good. Like you said no groundbreaking new info, but they do interview Colton himself and his family. Don't think I've ever heard from any of them before. Man I had forgotten it was Aug 2005. What a wonderful time that was.

holy fuck episode 5. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

holy shit episode 7.  this girl is still nuts.  what is she doing talking still?!?

[NorthLoop 14205]

Yeah regardless of whether Hall did it or not, she's a full on psychopath and needs to be locked away. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

1 hour ago, NorthLoop said:

Yeah regardless of whether Hall did it or not, she's a full on psychopath and needs to be locked away. 

Seems like she’s the only one that doesn’t know it either. 

[billfromlaketravis 11481]

I finished all 11 episodes of the Fall of Civilizations Podcast. Thanks again for the rec. 

[The Royal We 3072]

On 5/11/2020 at 10:56 PM, Bama Chick said:

Amazing new podcast premiered today.

“Wind of Change”
 

 

https://www.vulture.com/2020/05/wind-of-change-podcast-review.html

All the episodes are up on Spotify and it’s dropping one per week on Apple Podcasts. Eight episodes total - I’m already on episode five. The reporter/narrator (Patrick Radden Keefe, he wrote a great book about The IRA, “Say Nothing”) is super engaging and the whole thing is fascinating.

Wholeheartedly recommend.

 

 

 

I just finished this one up on a road trip last week and really enjoyed it.  Thought provoking and interesting for people my age who grew up during the cold war and remember doing bomb drills/getting under desks at school and whatnot.

[NorthLoop 14205]

Listening to Tenfold More Wicked. It's a good 1800s murder story and the narrator is a prof at UT, but holy fuck she needs to learn how to NOT spoil her own story. Every episode there's some line like "but that's not the ONLY members of that family he would end up murdering".. or "he lost 2 toes due to frostbite, and THAT will be an important detail in the story later" 

Like bitch just tell the story and let me get the facts as they come. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13512]

The Prof G Show is a decent business/economy podcast.  Scott Galloway, NYU Stern Business School professor is the host. He has some interesting guests on, and gives his views of the business world.

[hullabelew 3724]

On the Pitonyak thing.....  All I know is I would rather have him as a neighbor than Laura Hall.   He was just a fucked up, frat boy druggie.  She is mentally unstable and evil.  

Watching the trial, when the prosecution said they found a bullet that was shot into the head, AFTER it was decapitated, he almost puked.  It looked like the first time he had heard that.  What kind of evil fuck does that to an animal, much less a human.  

 

Edited December 21, 2020 by hullabelew

[NOMAAA 1696]

the comedy bang bang best of 2020 ep1 is up.  great way to get into a fantastic improv podcast.  paul f tompkins is a national treasure.

[Chips O'Toole 1323]

42 minutes ago, NOMAAA said:

the comedy bang bang best of 2020 ep1 is up.  great way to get into a fantastic improv podcast.  paul f tompkins is a national treasure.

I still tuned in for certain guests, but overall this was a weak year with most of the shows being done over zoom/remote.  It just doesn't work nearly as well when they aren't in the same room.

[NOMAAA 1696]

was most definitely a weak year. but the majority of the best of's is scott and paul riffing which is better than the replay of the clips every year.

[Frieda’s Boss 181]

On 11/17/2020 at 5:45 PM, JOSEYWALES66 said:

Fall of Civilizations claims to be a podcast but it is actually on YouTube.  It might be offered elsewhere but I haven’t looked.  Really well done.  I’ve listened to about half of the series.  It covers exactly what the title suggests.  

The Greenland Vikings and Easter Island have been my favorites.

Thanks for this rec. Only through a couple of episodes but really liking this far. 

[DCLonghorn 244]

Smartless is funny. Will Arnett and Jason Bateman giving each other shit with guests.

Neil deGrasse Tyson was a guest. The host were throwing out zingers and subtle jokes while Neil did his science thing. And it always took Neil an awkward 15 seconds to get the joke and belatedly laugh.

[Angry Gorilla 1768]

Tom Brown's Body is really good.  A missing person/murder mystery in a small town in the Texas panhandle.  Unlike a lot of true crime podcasts I have listened to, this crime is recent (2016 I think)

[billfromlaketravis 11481]

Death of a Starlet is pretty good. Its about former Playmate of the Year Dorothy Stratten and her scumbag husband. 
 

The Wonderland Murders is Wondery’s finest work, but Starlet is up there. Quality production value and capable narration. 

[Sandman 3403]

I really enjoy Rob Lowe's podcast. There's lots of "inside baseball" stuff about acting and hollywood, and all the roles he turned down/didn't get, that I find facinating. And he's pretty funny. 

The story of his "Footloose" audition is hilarious.

[40acredropout 2902]

On 11/29/2020 at 10:17 PM, Jive Turkey said:

just finished Tom Brown's Body.  seems like it should be a suicide, but why was his backpack found 4 miles from his car, and his phone was found 9 miles from his car, and his body was found about 12-14 miles from his car?  there is no way in hell that kid parked his car and then walked that far before he committed suicide.  zero chance.

so if he did kill himself, how did it go down so that his body ended up so far away from his Durango?  something fishy had to have happened.

i feel pretty confident in saying that the mom is hiding something.  she knows more than she's led on.

Sheriff Nathan Lewis was way in over his head.  i don't think he was in on anything, but he was a novice.

Phil Klein is so full of himself and, as stated above, is fleecing Penny Meeks for a lot of money with wild ass theories to get her to keep paying him.

i hope there is closure on this.

I just finished this one.  The only way I could see it being suicide is if somehow the mom was involved (i.e. covering it up) like they hypothesized on the podcast.  But even that does seem like a stretch.   Do you suspect something more nefarious with her involvement?  

The cell phone is the piece that confuses me more than anything.  Based on the condition it was found (years after disappearance) it had to be planted by someone.

Phil Klein sounds like a piece of shit.  How the fuck is he arriving at his theory that some kid accidentally pulled the trigger on Tom in the football stadium parking lot?  I may have missed something, but did he have a single shred of evidence to support that?  I know there was the shell casing in the car but how is he pinning it to that location / that scenario?

[Jive Turkey 12598]

1 hour ago, 40acredropout said:

Phil Klein sounds like a piece of shit.  How the fuck is he arriving at his theory that some kid accidentally pulled the trigger on Tom in the football stadium parking lot?  I may have missed something, but did he have a single shred of evidence to support that?  I know there was the shell casing in the car but how is he pinning it to that location / that scenario?

and not only some kid, but a kid who is connected with high-profile parents who covered it up.  yeah, that seems like it came out of nowhere.  only way that is plausible is if there was some video footage from the high school parking lot cameras, but there isn't any to my knowledge.  i'm pretty sure they said there video footage from the middle school parking lot when Tom was there, so you'd think the high school had video cameras too.  but there is nothing concrete establishing he decided to cruise by the high school parking lot before going home. 

i hope more info comes out.

[52-80 19159]

What's the deal with Jocko Willink?  He gets name-dropped by everyone, especially Joe Rogan, as if they all have a mancrush on him.  Is he some legitimate renaissance man or some dude who hit it big with the right cult

[Hpara759 1778]

Mike Rowe: The way I heard it

[Jerry Callo 8703]

On 12/31/2020 at 10:17 AM, DCLonghorn said:

Smartless is funny. Will Arnett and Jason Bateman giving each other shit with guests.

Neil deGrasse Tyson was a guest. The host were throwing out zingers and subtle jokes while Neil did his science thing. And it always took Neil an awkward 15 seconds to get the joke and belatedly laugh.

Thanks for the recommendation.  I've listened to the first two episodes, which included NdGT.  Pretty funny.

[Kyle 207]

After seeing a special on the case on Dateline, I blew through Your Own Back Yard. At first, it starts out almost as a parody - guy spends a lot of time talking about himself and every mundane detail of making a phone call, taking a drive, etc. However, by the end the guy deserves a ton of credit for pulling together a bunch of information in a coherent story and timeline. It's obvious who did it, but the story is more about how he escaped justice.

[castolon 193]

On 1/6/2021 at 6:52 AM, 52-80 said:

What's the deal with Jocko Willink?  He gets name-dropped by everyone, especially Joe Rogan, as if they all have a mancrush on him.  Is he some legitimate renaissance man or some dude who hit it big with the right cult

I've listened to every episode of the jocko podcast and I still don't know. The answer is neither, and both. There's this weird overlapping group that includes Rogan, Jocko, and Jordan Peterson that I don't really understand and makes me a little skeptical. Jocko has a particular worldview that's fairly transparent but also a little hard to nail down. He started a podcast shortly after he did Rogan's and Tim Ferris' podcast so I think he pulled his original listener group from there. The jocko/rogan overlap came through jiu jitsu/MMA. He has some fantastic guests if you're interested in military history with a heavy lean towards seals and the wars since 2001. The focus is somewhat mixed between great stories and leadership lessons. I have a healthy appreciation for the leadership/discipline stuff. His fanbase does seem a little nutty on social media and he's turned his leadership consultant company, podcast and books into some kind of a movement. Fair warning, his "cohost" is blah and it takes a minute before the podcast hits a decent stride. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

We have to stop talking tmnt on cbb was excellent. Shaun Diston is a fantastic podcast guest/host. 

[fakebusiness 129]

On 1/7/2021 at 5:48 AM, Hpara759 said:

Mike Rowe: The way I heard it

 

[Axle Hongsnort 208]

and not only some kid, but a kid who is connected with high-profile parents who covered it up.  yeah, that seems like it came out of nowhere.  only way that is plausible is if there was some video footage from the high school parking lot cameras, but there isn't any to my knowledge.  i'm pretty sure they said there video footage from the middle school parking lot when Tom was there, so you'd think the high school had video cameras too.  but there is nothing concrete establishing he decided to cruise by the high school parking lot before going home. 
i hope more info comes out.

The podcast quickly slips in that he googled “suicide hotline” the night he died. Case closed.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13512]

Not a podcast but YouTube channel about the mafia. From a guy high up in the Colombo family that walked away without giving evidence to the govt.  He hung out with many of the Goodfellas characters even though he was with a different family. He’s briefly mentioned in the movie. His channel makes for good 10-15 minute episodes. 

https://youtube.com/user/MichaelFranzese

 

[NorthLoop 14205]

Chameleon: Hollywood Con Queen

 

This has been a good one. A down the rabbit hole investigation of a really good con-man who's been running a scam on Hollywood day players for about 5 years. 

[billfromlaketravis 11481]

4 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Not a podcast but YouTube channel about the mafia. From a guy high up in the Colombo family that walked away without giving evidence to the govt.  He hung out with many of the Goodfellas characters even though he was with a different family. He’s briefly mentioned in the movie. His channel makes for good 10-15 minute episodes. 

https://youtube.com/user/MichaelFranzese

 

Franzese toots his own horn a little too much, but he's an interesting/knowledgeable speaker. Michael was never a boss, but he refers to himself as a boss on many occasions. I don't know why, but this annoys the hell out of me. He was a high ranking captain in the Colombo Family. His father Sonny was a long time underboss of the family, and a stone cold gangster until the very end. There are multiple YouTube episodes on The Colombo Family Wars. 

I believe Franzese's connection with the Jimmy Burke Crew (The Goodfellas characters) was the hijacking business out of JFK Airport. The Colombos, Lucchese (Burke Crew), and Gambino (John Gotti Crew) split up the airport. Franzese has some pretty good insights on John Gotti in the Nat Geo Series Inside the American Mob. Spoiler: He didn't like him. Franzese reiterates that the Five Families are pretty cooperative, and work together extensively on different schemes. 

Eddie, you probably already know this, but I'll post it for the benefit of the board. Wiseguy by Nicholas Pileggi was adapted into Goodfellas. It's a great book. Probably my favorite crime/LCN book. I love Scorsese, but he softened Tommy and Jimmy's characters. The real life inspirations were far more sinister. 

 

[Steamboat1874 4064]

https://theplotthickens.tcm.com/

I have been listening to this one and it is fascinating stuff.

If you are TCM fan I highly recommend it.

Bonus hearing both John Wayne and Henry Fonda say "fuck" in interviews.

[Buzzrock 14920]

The Shutdown Fullcast is fucking hilarious

[Captainant 27669]

I've really been enjoying Behind the Bastards and their recent series Behind the Insurrection which is basically a historic review of the rise of fascism in pre-WWII Europe via insurrectionist action. First ep is the march on Rome, next the beer hall putsch, next the Spanish civil war, and so on. Very interesting stuff and well researched and sourced, but lots of topical commentary as well

[BabaYaga 15298]

On 1/6/2021 at 4:52 AM, 52-80 said:

What's the deal with Jocko Willink?  He gets name-dropped by everyone, especially Joe Rogan, as if they all have a mancrush on him.  Is he some legitimate renaissance man or some dude who hit it big with the right cult

Former SEAL.  His task unit "Bruiser" was responsible for winning the Battle of Ramadi in 2006.  Chris Kyle....famous sniper, was one of his guys.  That whole movie, all those SEALS were "his" guys.  Won a Silver Star.  Unlike most SEALS who's book start with "there I was, ankle deep in hand grenade pins"....his is 100% about leadership and discipline.  He also has his own BJJ gym along with the famous BJJ champion Dean Lister.  Jocko is a high level black belt himself.

Dude's just intense.  Gets up every morning @ 4;30 and absolutely crushes himself with a workout.  As stated, his podcasts are all about military history and leadership principles.  He talks very little about his own accolades fighting except in the context of leadership examples.  They are hit & miss, but many are really neat as he likes to get the old guys in there from Korea and Vietnam.  He is incredibly deferential to all of them and all service members in general.  

For YEARS now, rain or shine, he posts this pic every single morning without fail.  No text.  No explanation.  The guys walks the walk like no other.  

[52-80 19159]

4 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Former SEAL.  His task unit "Bruiser" was responsible for winning the Battle of Ramadi in 2006.  Chris Kyle....famous sniper, was one of his guys.  That whole movie, all those SEALS were "his" guys.  Won a Silver Star.  Unlike most SEALS who's book start with "there I was, ankle deep in hand grenade pins"....his is 100% about leadership and discipline.  He also has his own BJJ gym along with the famous BJJ champion Dean Lister.  Jocko is a high level black belt himself.

Dude's just intense.  Gets up every morning @ 4;30 and absolutely crushes himself with a workout.  As stated, his podcasts are all about military history and leadership principles.  He talks very little about his own accolades fighting except in the context of leadership examples.  They are hit & miss, but many are really neat as he likes to get the old guys in there from Korea and Vietnam.  He is incredibly deferential to all of them and all service members in general.  

For YEARS now, rain or shine, he posts this pic every single morning without fail.  No text.  No explanation.  The guys walks the walk like no other.  

thats pretty fucking intense