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On 7/27/2019 at 3:23 PM, David Dennison said:

Someone doesn't know what fascism means.

 

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Fascism, political ideology and mass movement that dominated central, southern, and eastern Europe between 1919 and 1945 and was characterized by extreme militant nationalism, hatred of communism and socialism, contempt for democracy, and belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites

 

Can the argument be made the Corporate Press is in Cahoots with the Deep State actors within the government to maintain the "trump is a racist/Putin Puppet" Narrative?  I think so. 

One could also argue that there is a disdain (rightly so imo) for socialism from the Trump administration but not a contempt for democracy.  If anything, the media role in fanning the flames of the anti-trump narratives is a product of the "rule of elites" from the literal definition of fascism (which I believe comes from the unelected powers that be in the federal apparatus.)   

 

 

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3 minutes ago, American Swindle said:

 

 

 

One could also argue that there is a disdain (rightly so imo) for socialism from the Trump administration but not a contempt for democracy.

 

 

One could argue that, and they'd be a fucking fool.

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12 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Take it a step further . . . corporations are the enemy of the people.

I disagree.   H-E-B is not an enemy of the people, they provide an abundance of food at a low cost and high quality. As long as a corporation is not committing fraud/theft, using the government to push out competitors and respecting property rights, then they are only a provider for the demands of the people.  

 

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Just now, elguapo said:

One could argue that, and they'd be a fucking fool.

You have a lot of time for ad hominem but no time for arguments I noticed.  

Care to enlighten the board as to why the Trump Administration has a contempt for Democracy?  Off the top of my head, his veto Congress' measure to block the sell of arms to Saudi-Arabia would be in the mix, but what threshold would the Trump Administration as a whole have to hit to be in the "contempt for Democracy" zone? And by the same measure, would past administrations meet said threshold?

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13 minutes ago, American Swindle said:

 

 

Can the argument be made the Corporate Press is in Cahoots with the Deep State actors within the government to maintain the "trump is a racist/Putin Puppet" Narrative?  I think so. 

One could also argue that there is a disdain (rightly so imo) for socialism from the Trump administration but not a contempt for democracy.  If anything, the media role in fanning the flames of the anti-trump narratives is a product of the "rule of elites" from the literal definition of fascism (which I believe comes from the unelected powers that be in the federal apparatus.)   

 

 

You're a moron.

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9 minutes ago, American Swindle said:

I disagree.   H-E-B is not an enemy of the people, they provide an abundance of food at a low cost and high quality. As long as a corporation is not committing fraud/theft, using the government to push out competitors and respecting property rights, then they are only a provider for the demands of the people.  

As long as . . . 

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1 minute ago, American Swindle said:

You have a lot of time for ad hominem but no time for arguments I noticed.  

Care to enlighten the board as to why the Trump Administration has a contempt for Democracy?  Off the top of my head, his veto Congress' measure to block the sell of arms to Saudi-Arabia would be in the mix, but what threshold would the Trump Administration as a whole have to hit to be in the "contempt for Democracy" zone? And by the same measure, would past administrations meet said threshold?

Took 2 seconds to find an example, not wasting any more time on this.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/16/trump-says-supporters-could-demand-he-not-leave-after-two-terms/1471915001/

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Trump says supporters could 'demand' he not leave office after two terms

 

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15 minutes ago, American Swindle said:

Can the argument be made the Corporate Press is in Cahoots with the Deep State actors within the government to maintain the "trump is a racist/Putin Puppet" Narrative?  I think so. 

One could also argue that there is a disdain (rightly so imo) for socialism from the Trump administration but not a contempt for democracy.  If anything, the media role in fanning the flames of the anti-trump narratives is a product of the "rule of elites" from the literal definition of fascism (which I believe comes from the unelected powers that be in the federal apparatus.)   

It helps that Donald Trump is both a racist and a Russian puppet.

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1 minute ago, elguapo said:

A President opining about circumventing the constitution....that's never happened before at all....

 

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2 minutes ago, American Swindle said:

It was a good example.  One that would lend to the argument that Trump has contempt for democracy.  I'm sure you would agree that all Presidents should follow the Constitution no?

 

I would prefer that, yes.

If you're looking for some kind of gotcha here I'm not sure you'll get what you want. I wasn't a big fan of Obama either, but at least he isn't a morally bankrupt moron.

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2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Well, as much as I like HEB, you make a lot of assumptions about what they have and haven't done as a corporate entity.

I was talking more in principle.  H-E-B has likely made some backroom deals, has done things in a grey area, or used the state to urge landowners to give up their property so they can build at some time or another in their history, but the beauty part is you're not forced to have to buy groceries there.  

So you like certain corporations...good to know. 

 

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1 hour ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

That dude seems super butt-hurt he cant get a real job in journalism. Now go donate money to my bank account, I accept Bitcoin. 

Meh..Tim Pool actually has a lot of credibility in my opinion.  So much, he was invited on Rogan to Question Jack and his Lawyer representing Twitter regarding censorship.  But then again, I like Rogan and sure the olds on the board do not think Rogan is a credible medium for information or news (which I disagree with.) 

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14 minutes ago, American Swindle said:

Meh..Tim Pool actually has a lot of credibility in my opinion.  So much, he was invited on Rogan to Question Jack and his Lawyer representing Twitter regarding censorship.  But then again, I like Rogan and sure the olds on the board do not think Rogan is a credible medium for information or news (which I disagree with.) 

Rogan is giving the last push for the Bernouts right now

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2 hours ago, EMAWesome said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/08/05/alarming-teleprompter-slip-up-trump-condemns-white-supremacy-instead-tacitly-endorsing-it/

 

Washington Post headline "In Alarming Teleprompter Slipup, Trump Condemns White Supremacy Instead of Tacitly Endorsing It."

The Onion, Washington Post, same trash

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Yes, it's Breitbart, tough shit if you don't like it.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/08/07/mitch-mcconnell-campaign-suspended-from-twitter-for-highlighting-violent-threats/

The campaign account for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) was suspended from Twitter after sharing a video of protesters allegedly making violent threats against the Senator, including a protester saying “just stab the motherfucker in the heart.” Twitter had no problem with “Massacre Mitch” trending on the platform.

Sen. McConnell’s team slammed Twitter in a comment to USA Today’s Courier-Journal.

“This morning, Twitter locked our account for posting the video of real-world, violent threats made against Mitch McConnell. This is a problem with the speech police in America today,” said campaign manager Kevin Golden.

“Twitter will allow the words of ‘Massacre Mitch’ to trend nationally on their platform, but locks our account for posting actual threats against us,” Golden added. “We appealed and Twitter stood by their decision, saying our account will remain locked until we delete the video.”

Daily Wire reporter Ryan Saavedra was also locked out of his Twitter account for drawing attention to the threats.

“Twitter asked me yesterday to delete this tweet,” said Saavedra. “It showed a person allegedly calling for violence against Mitch McConnell. The person appears to be a BLM activist who has met with Elizabeth Warren.”

“I said no and they suspended me *and* McConnell’s re-election campaign.”

A Twitter spokeswoman told Breitbart News that the platform does not allow the sharing of violent threats on the platform regardless of context. This means that even if the person sharing the material intended to criticize the threats, they can still be banned, suspended, or locked out of their account as a result.

On Saavedra’s ban, the spokeswoman said: “The user was temporarily locked out of their account for a Tweet that violated our violent threats policy, specifically threats involving physical safety.”

A Twitter spokeswoman told Breitbart News that the platform does not allow the sharing of violent threats on the platform regardless of context. This means that even if the person sharing the material intended to criticize the threats, they can still be banned, suspended, or locked out of their account as a result.

  Tell that to Ben Shapiro and Andy Ngo.

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On 8/7/2019 at 1:07 PM, Zavala said:

Rogan is giving the last push for the Bernouts right now

He'll talk to anyone from any political ideology.  The refreshing thing is he'll press where he is informed and throw out the disclaimer that he's not informed on a particular subject a guess is touching on and encourage them to expand on it to learn more about their positions. 

The moment he asked Bari Weiss to clarify her the statement referring to Tulsi Gabbard as an "Assad Toady" is a perfect example of him pressing for clarification.  

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, American Swindle said:

He'll talk to anyone from any political ideology.  The refreshing thing is he'll press where he is informed and throw out the disclaimer that he's not informed on a particular subject a guess is touching on and encourage them to expand on it to learn more about their positions. 

The moment he asked Bari Weiss to clarify her the statement referring to Tulsi Gabbard as an "Assad Toady" is a perfect example of him pressing for clarification.  

 

 

 

How many conservative politicians has he had on?

Democrap presidential canidates:

-Tusli Gabbard

-Yang

-Bernie

Left leaning people he's had on and talked politics, too many to count. Had all the Young Turks on, Abby Martian ect... 

He's had a few conservatives: ex-military, hunters, and Dan Carlin. He did have Stephen Crowder and Gavin Mcginnes. I guess Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson are somehow right-wing too even though they are atheists and liberals.

Anyway, Joe doing political shows is hilarious. Dude WEED! 

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39 minutes ago, Zavala said:

How many conservative politicians has he had on?

Democrap presidential canidates:

-Tusli Gabbard

-Yang

-Bernie

Left leaning people he's had on and talked politics, too many to count. Had all the Young Turks on, Abby Martian ect... 

He's had a few conservatives: ex-military, hunters, and Dan Carlin. He did have Stephen Crowder and Gavin Mcginnes. I guess Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson are somehow right-wing too even though they are atheists and liberals.

Anyway, Joe doing political shows is hilarious. Dude WEED! 

I suppose not many conservative politicians, but definitely numerous conservatives...

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2 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Every Surly Socialist knows this to be 100% correct but don’t care, get trump all that matters. 

They would stab mother Teresa if it furthered their political cause. 

Republicans nominated, elected, and continue to support a racist piece of shit to further their political cause.

Well done.

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