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the reason that this is so dangerous in today's climate - is fucking social media. not that long ago, you heard a story on the news, on the radio, from a friend or family member.  maybe you read

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https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/07/05/rap-sheet-acts-of-media-approved-violence-and-harassment-against-trump-supporters/

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When not calling Trump supporters “Nazis” as a means to dehumanize us, the establishment media like to whine about the lack of civility in American politics, even as they cover up, ignore, downplay, or straight-up approve of the wave of violence and public harassment we are seeing against supporters of President Trump.

It is open season on Trump supporters, and the media is only fomenting, encouraging, excusing, and hoping for more… The media are now openly calling Trump supporters “Nazis” and are blaming Trump for a mass murder he had nothing to do with. This, of course, is a form of harassment because it incites and justifies mob violence.

Here is the list, so far, and remember that if any one of these things happened to a Democrat, the media would use the story to blot out the sun for weeks. But what we have when it comes to Trump supporters is a media eager to normalize harassment and violence.

This list will be updated as needed…

Why have these 96 examples of political violence made it to the MSM?

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21 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Lots of Trump supporters self-identify as Nazis, soo.....

What is your estimate of the ~60 million that voted for Trump fit into your 'lots'?

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https://theintercept.com/2018/07/08/msnbc-does-not-merely-permit-fabrications-against-democratic-party-critics-it-encourages-and-rewards-them/

There are several tweets and videos emersed in this story that you will have to go to the link to see.  The text itself is plenty long enough.

DURING THE 2016 primary and general election campaigns, various MSNBC hosts were openly campaigning for Hillary Clinton. One of the network’s programs featured Malcolm Nance (pictured above), whose background is quite sketchy but is presented by the cable network (and now by NBC News) as an “intelligence expert” and former intelligence officer for the U.S. Navy.

On August 20, 2016, weekend host Joy Reid asked Nance about the supposed “affinity” for Russia harbored by Jill Stein supporters. In response, Nance told MSNBC viewers: “Jill Stein has a show on Russia Today.” You can still watch the video of this claim here on MSNBC’s own website or see it here:

Whatever your views might be about Stein and her third-party candidacy, there is no disputing the fact that Nance’s statement was a falsehood, a fabrication, a lie. Stein did not have a show on RT, nor did she ever host a show on RT. What Nance said was made up out of whole cloth — fabricated — in order to encourage MSNBC viewers to believe that Stein, one of the candidates running against Clinton, was a paid agent of the Kremlin and employee of RT.

Reid allowed Nance’s lie to stand. Perhaps she did not realize at the time that it was a lie. But subsequently, a campaign was launched to urge MSNBC to correct the lie it broadcast, based on the assumption that MSNBC — which is part of NBC News — was a normal news outlet that functions in accordance with basic journalistic principles and would, of course, correct a false statement once that was brought to its attention.

The media watchdog group FAIR repeatedly documented the lie told by Nance and urged MSNBC to issue a correction. The Intercept wrote about this falsehood on several occasions and also noted that MSNBC was refusing to issue a correction of what everyone knows is a false — but an obviously quite significant — claim. Multiple tweets were directed at NBC News, MSNBC, Nance, and Reid asking them to correct the fabrication to their viewers:

To date — almost two years later — neither NBC News nor MSNBC, nor a single journalist who works for either one of those media outlets has corrected this significant falsehood, despite obviously knowing that it was broadcast to their viewers. In other words, NBC News and MSNBC know that they told viewers something that was materially false, and yet refuse to correct it. Please, defenders of this network: Tell me what that says about its integrity, about its real function, about whether it is a real news outlet.

Worse, not only was Nance never sanctioned in any way for the lie he told, but he was rewarded: He has since gone from “MSNBC contributor” to “MSNBC intelligence analyst,” and is far more pervasive on the network, and its hosts have spent the month aggressively promoting his new bookon how Vladimir Putin is destroying U.S. democracy.

On MSNBC, lies are not corrected; they are rewarded, provided the lies are designed to smear the reputations of Democratic Party critics. Is this not definitive and conclusive proof of that: that this is not a news outlet but a political arm of the Democratic Party? What else could possibly explain, let alone justify, behavior like this? I’m asking that earnestly.

I BRING THIS UP again now not because I think MSNBC will ever correct its lie — it has made clear that lies designed to destroy the reputations of Democratic Party critics are perfectly permissible — but because a very similar event happened on Friday night involving the same MSNBC analyst.

This week, I traveled to Moscow to meet with Edward Snowden, as well as to participate in a cybersecurity conference, on a panel regarding “fake news” that included Alexei Venediktov, famous in Russia as a fierce critic of the Putin government in his position as editor-in-chief of Ekcho Moskvy radio station, along with Giovanni Zagni, head of an Italian website dedicated to checking politicians’ statements who is working with Facebook to determine “fake news.” (The Intercept paid for my travel and I was paid no fee for the trip).

The panel was moderated by RT Editor-in-Chief Margarita Simonyan and also included Sergey Nalobin, acting deputy director of the Information and Press Department of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Given the presence of harsh Putin critics on the panel, the discussion included severe criticisms of both the U.S. and Russian governments, their propensity to lie, and their desire to control the internet.

After Nalobin claimed that Russia was the victim of disinformation and “fake news” campaigns, I responded by pointing out that while this was true, Russia is also the perpetrator of such campaigns, and that in general, the history of the Cold War has continued through today: whereby the U.S. and Russia both use the same tactics against one another while claiming to be the victim:

After the event, there were camera crews from numerous media outlets wanting to interview some of the panel participants. I spoke to all of them. One of them was RT, which published the full transcript of the three-minute interview, as well as selected video clips. The primary point I made that received the most attention — namely, that it has become regarded as suspicious, and even treasonous, merely to visit Russia, and that I accepted the invitation to attend in part to combat that toxic, dangerous, and xenophobic perception — is the statement of mine that RT highlighted on social media.

Obviously, anyone is free to criticize people who decide to visit Russia. Anyone is free to denounce those who speak with RT (such as Stephen Hawking, whose RT interview can be seen here, though I’d love to hear from those holding such views why it’s permissible to speak to think tanks such as Brookings and Center for American Progress, which are funded by Gulf state tyrannies). And, needless to say, anyone is free to attack or dispute any statements or views that I, or anyone else, express as part of such discussions.

Nance did none of that. What he did, instead, is exactly what he did on MSNBC to Jill Stein in August 2016: In two tweets, he outright lied about me on purpose, telling his 420,000 Twitter followers that I am “an agent of Moscow” and “deep in the Kremlin pocket.” He further lied by stating that I “helped Snowden defect” and that I “reports into [my] masters in Moscow.”

None of Nance’s statements here is opinion. These claims — especially that I am an “agent of Moscow” and “deep in the Kremlin pocket” — are intended to be factual statements: that I work for, and am paid by, Russia and the Kremlin, and that I aided Snowden in “defecting” to Moscow. They are all outright lies. There is no other way to describe them.

Thus far, his tweet has been retweeted by close to 5,000 people. After I noted that they were lies, Nance reaffirmed them and said how proud he was to have broadcast them.

This is because Nance knows that he is free to lie this way with impunity. That’s because he works for an organization — MSNBC — that masquerades as a news outlet but actively encourages its employees to lie this way about anyone who criticizes the Democratic Party.

He will be celebrated inside MSNBC, not sanctioned or even told to rescind his lie, because — just as happened with the lie he told about Jill Stein — the person he chose to falsely accuse of being a paid agent of Russia is someone that the MSNBC audience of Democratic partisans hates, and lying is thus permitted and encouraged, just the way it is in any partisan organization. The network is derided as “MSDNC” for a reason.

Obviously, Nance is simply adhering to the post-World War II tactic of the U.S. military and intelligence community from which he emerged: For decades, they accuse any journalists they dislike, or dissidents of any kind, of being covert agents of Moscow.

You would think that any real journalists inside NBC News might be bothered enough by this classically McCarthyite tactic — accusing a journalist of being an agent of Russia without a shred of evidence — to denounce it, but you would be quite wrong. Just look at how identical the script is used by Nance to the actual words Joseph McCarthy spoke at one of his notorious hearings:

That’s because NBC News and MSNBC have essentially merged with the CIA and intelligence community and thus, use their tactics. The network is filled with former generals and CIA officials who are part of the community that pioneered these smear tactics of accusing journalists and critics they dislike of being traitors, spies, and Kremlin loyalists. Indeed, Nance sometimes appears on MSNBC along with former CIA Director John Brennan, who MSNBC also hired as an “analyst.” This is who they are.

It’s also what the Democratic Party is: This is their go-to tactic. After my colleague Lee Fang reported on the numerous corporate interests for which Howard Dean secretly shills in exchange for large payments — everything from pharmaceutical companies to Iranian regime-change cults such as MEK — this was the response from Dean (who, needless to say, also frequently appears on MSNBC):

Anyone who criticizes the Democratic Party or its leaders is instantly accused of being a Kremlin agent despite the lack of any evidence. And the organization that leads that smear campaign is the one that calls itself a news outlet (and this is all independent of the fact that another one of its hosts recently lied about having her blog hacked and claimed she reported it to the FBI — a claim everyone in journalism knows is a lie — and not only was never sanctioned for it by was praised for doing that by MSNBC’s star host).

Needless to say, MSNBC is not the only cable outlet that acts as an arm of a political party and encourages its on-air personalities to lie and smear critics of that party. I have spent years documenting lies told by certain Fox News employees and denounced the willingness of some of their hosts to do exactly that while on Fox News itself.

But you can’t be a credible critic of lies — whether told by other cable outlets or politicians — if you not only permit but clearly encourage and reward your own on-air personalities when they do the same. And in the case of MSNBC, they not only do this, but they practice one of the most historically destructive versions of it: fabricated allegations that their critics, including journalists, are treasonous agents of a foreign power.

 

 

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On 7/6/2018 at 9:15 AM, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Lots of Trump supporters self-identify as Nazis, soo.....

And the vast majority of convicted felons and people with an IQ below 80 vote Democrat. What does that have to do with making good policy?  Do you consider Democrats the party of criminals and retards?

 

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And the vast majority of convicted felons and people with an IQ below 80 vote Democrat. What does that have to do with making good policy?  Do you consider Democrats the party of criminals and retards?

 

Low IQ voters are solidly GOP, brah.

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And the vast majority of convicted felons and people with an IQ below 80 vote Democrat. What does that have to do with making good policy?  Do you consider Democrats the party of criminals and retards?
 


Convicted felons cannot vote dipshit
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On 7/15/2018 at 10:50 PM, EMAWesome said:

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you're not very intelligent, are you? you realize the by-line under the bottom story reinforces the top story, right? since i doubt you read either story, i'm going to just leave it as game set match, EMA is just a fucking moron.

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CNN's fake news extends to fake history:

Attempt No. 1: "President Lincoln's 1860 Emancipation Proclamation said all slaves were free."

Attempt No. 2: "President Lincoln's 1863 Emancipation Proclamation said all slaves were free."

Attempt No. 3: "President Lincoln's 1863 Emancipation Proclamation said all slaves who lived in states that had seceded from the US were free. The 13th Amendment, ratified in 1865, formally abolished slavery in all of the US."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/18/us/bodies-found-construction-site-slavery-trnd/index.html

When your writers and editors couldn't pass an eighth-grade U.S. history class, how can they be trusted to accurately present information on the nuances of worldwide 21st-century geopolitical developments? 

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4 hours ago, Skyline said:

Looks like they realized the errors, corrected them, and even added a note below stating what was wrong. 

Seems like you're just wanting a reason to be mad at CNN due to prior biases. 

They "realized their errors" because they were pointed out to them after they were published. I mean, c'mon ... claiming Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1860? You know, when he wasn't even president... That's a pretty huge gaffe for "the most trusted name in news."

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2 minutes ago, Swam@Texas said:

They "realized their errors" because they were pointed out to them after they were published. I mean, c'mon ... claiming Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1860? You know, when he wasn't even president... That's a pretty huge gaffe for "the most trusted name in news."

How do you know?

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10 hours ago, Swam@Texas said:

They "realized their errors" because they were pointed out to them after they were published. I mean, c'mon ... claiming Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1860? You know, when he wasn't even president... That's a pretty huge gaffe for "the most trusted name in news."

They fixed it when pointed out because it’s most likely they didn’t know they made the mistake until shown. Yes it’s a dumb typo that should’ve been caught, but to claim it’s bias or proof of something ulterior is dumb. 

Swam... do you believe CNN intentionally lied about the date of the Emancipation Proclamation? This just seems like a simple typo that probably happens everywhere, and fixing it ASAP is how it’s done. 

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19 hours ago, David Dennison said:

How do you know?

Because they were pointed out to them in the comments thread. The first time they changed the date. After the second mistake was pointed out to them, they made the second change.

9 hours ago, Skyline said:

They fixed it when pointed out because it’s most likely they didn’t know they made the mistake until shown. Yes it’s a dumb typo that should’ve been caught, but to claim it’s bias or proof of something ulterior is dumb. 

Swam... do you believe CNN intentionally lied about the date of the Emancipation Proclamation? This just seems like a simple typo that probably happens everywhere, and fixing it ASAP is how it’s done. 

It shows America's "most trusted name in news" is packed with reporters and editors who have no grasp of one of the most basic elements of American history.
Not understanding what the Emancipation Proclamation did or why it was issued is not "a simple typo" -- it's a fundamental misunderstanding of our nation's centuries-long battle to end slavery. It also falsely perpetuates the idea that one person ended slavery when, in fact, it was the effort of hundreds of thousands of men giving the ultimate sacrifice on the battlefield and scores of "privileged white men" amending the Constitution to end the horrific chapter.

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You sound really pissed over what was most likely a typo that was fixed quickly. Furthermore you're extending what looks like a numerical error into a condemnation of an entire news org. The only one coming off as biased is you. 

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Swam is heroically battling the widespread belief that a single man, when not killing vampires, ended slavery.  In fact, it was more than one man battling this foreign institution foisted upon this country against its will. Obviously CNN was trying to hide the fact that the Emancipation Proclamation only freed most of the slaves, and it wasn't until 13th Amendment that all the slaves were freed- cuz that info changes everything about our understanding of the Civil War. 

Never mind the major point of the CNN piece was that in practice slavery in Texas via forced prison labor persisted well beyond the ratification of the 13th Amendment- that's not important. What's important is CNN's nefarious plan to pull the wool over America's eyes with FAKE DATES and failing to specify which acts freed which slaves (which everyone who read the article minus Swam, now knows technically isn't true). Thanks for uncovering the media conspiracy Swam. We can always count on you.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Skyline said:

Thoughts? It's a good point by Nate Gold. The NYT bent over backwards in order to appear impartial for Trump. Apologies for the tweet spam. 

It’s a spot on assessment and it wasn’t just NYT.  The cable media too (CNN and MSNBC) that normalized Trump with their false equivalency to never ending coverage of Hillary’s emails. 

You ever wonder why you never see the MSM talk to the hard core Hillary voters?  I do all the time.  

But they will gladly venture out to Hicksville USA for a round table discussion with Trumpkins.  It seemed almost criminally irresponsible.

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1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s a spot on assessment and it wasn’t just NYT.  The cable media too (CNN and MSNBC) that normalized Trump with their false equivalency to never ending coverage of Hillary’s emails. 

You ever wonder why you never see the MSM talk to the hard core Hillary voters?  I do all the time.  

But they will gladly venture out to Hicksville USA for a round table discussion with Trumpkins.  It seemed almost criminally irresponsible.

It's wildly irresponsible. It took media a very long time to figure out that no matter what, Trump will call them biased and disregard them. Some still haven't. 

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