Tucker Carlson Tonight

[jimmyjazz 46438]

Obama will ignore that as he does most of the bullshit, but that screams "slander".

[miguelito 11336]

 

 

[TwiceHorn 31672]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Obama will ignore that as he does most of the bullshit, but that screams "slander".

Tucker's just reporting the news.

[Disco Strangler 1894]

Dear Penthouse Forum,

I never thought his might happen to me, but this is a totally true story . . . .

[Gil Bang 26091]

5 minutes ago, Disco Strangler said:

Dear Penthouse Forum,

I never thought his might happen to me, but this is a totally true story . . . .

I remember when National Lampoon had "Children's letters to Penthouse Forum".

"I'm no John C. Holmes, but my 2 1/2 weiner was at full attention..."

[Neonmoon 38130]

46 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Going full Qanon.

 

[Mach 1 1677]

I liked to sneak into my older brother’s room to read his National Lampoons.

One of the letters stumped me: Hey, my National Lampoon came in the mail, and it took an hour for the mailman to clean out his bag!
 

Figured it out later. 

[YGIFS 19453]

I like how the dude being interviewed wore an orthopedic arm brace on his handjob hand to totally legitimize the story.  And his non-descript accent, he can claim it happened in Chicago, Hawaii, Nigeria, New York, Boston, or even Occidental College.  And if they were doing $250 worth of blow that far back, they'd have died.  Granted Don, Jr. can do $250 in blow in the amount of time it takes most of you to read one of my posts.  But that far back, that's 2 or 3 8-balls between two dudes, that would kill them.  

[Gil Bang 26091]

I've never had gay sex, but if I did have gay sex, and I had it with Barack Obama, I'm guessing I would have called him "Barry" as most of his friends did. 

 

[Biff Tannen 45761]

1 hour ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Going full Qanon.

 

[Dnaguy 12276]

55 minutes ago, miguelito said:

 

 

 

/thread.

 

Winner, winner.

[SydneyCarton 48267]

Sigh. On the linked thread, look at this fucking embarassment.
 

 

I tried to just link his page, but apparently Musk fucked with twitter so now it embeds all his fucking tweets if you paste his main thread.

 

TTom, maybe?

Edited September 6, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[Satchel 6949]

Good grief, this guy:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12489287/larry-sinclair-barack-obama-cocaine-sex-tucker-carlson.html

 

[RomaVicta 30061]

Dudes, our show is now just above Tucker on X. 

Molly?

And just below Dog House Reno.

[The Royal We 3072]

19 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Sigh. On the linked thread, look at this fucking embarassment.
 

 

I tried to just link his page, but apparently Musk fucked with twitter so now it embeds all his fucking tweets if you paste his main thread.

 

TTom, maybe?

I checked out the politics forum on Inside Texas last week. We’ve got waaay more TexAgish posters than I realized. 

[SydneyCarton 48267]

25 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

I checked out the politics forum on Inside Texas last week. We’ve got waaay more TexAgish posters than I realized. 

My undrestanding is 24/7 and OB are similar. Surly is the only college football board I know of in the general that is liberal. 

[atomheartbevo 89993]

19 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

My undrestanding is 24/7 and OB are similar. Surly is the only college football board I know of in the general that is liberal. 

It's interesting that Surly broke away from a group of people that are pretty MAGA-ish before MAGA was a thing, so maybe the very nature of our rebellious nature makes us a little more open minded (he said nature twice, he really likes nature).

I'm sure that when Surly (or rather it's previous versions) broke out and became it's own thing, 24/7 and OB saw us as:

[SydneyCarton 48267]

I assume it's because boards populated by dumb shits who spend a decade defending Greg Davis, are still apologizing for the end of Mack Brown's tenure at Texas, and who defended Blake Gideon and Dylan Haines's presence on the field because "Coaches Know More Than You" are just straight up dumb motherfuckers easily fooled by conspiracy theories and facebook silos. 

[Stilicho 1405]

If there's one lesson I've picked up from the shag / surly over the years, it's be prepared to back up your bullshit or be prepared to get fucking roasted alive in short order. That doesn't play well with a crowd whose receipts are often doctored TikTok clips and conspiracies involving Jewish space lasers. We're the bully's bully, so to speak.

[Bozo_Casanova 26652]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

My undrestanding is 24/7 and OB are similar. Surly is the only college football board I know of in the general that is liberal. 

Is it really though? I mean I’m ostensibly sort of a liberal (‘Cabal’ charter member), and obviously we picked up a handful of actual lefties along the way but most of the longtime “liberals” on this forum are disaffected former Republicans who were defending George Allen and the Bush Tax Cuts 20 years ago.

Edited September 7, 2023 by Bozo_Casanova

[956 Worldwide 34883]

Yeah, look— the demographic of people who fill college football stadiums across Texas and the south and Midwest is pretty squarely in the GOP targeting zone on everything from skin tone to income to hobbies.  That’s just undeniable, at every stadium with obvious contour differences once you get a closer look. 

This place is different first because as an Aggie I have to admit that UT’s decades long reputation as a more liberal leaning institution is accurate. (That’s a good thing because conservatives stopped pretending in intellectual conservatism and just went with both barrels on lowest-common-denominator populism).

Second, the community has always been intentionally about far more than the sports side of the house, the team is a common thread for most posters but you can easily just have a great time in LULZ, hobbies, and food/travel if so inclined. 
 

Finally, the limited moderation with the main rule “be an asshole, not a piece of shit” and crowd-sourcing of true idiots mean that yes— QAnon gets bounced fast. 

[SydneyCarton 48267]

4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Is it really though? I mean I’m ostensibly sort of a liberal (‘Cabal’ charter member), and obviously we picked up a handful of actual lefties along the way but most of the longtime “liberals” on this forum are disaffected former Republicans who were defending George Allen and the Bush Tax Cuts 20 years ago.

I misspoke somewhat: We are the only college football board I know of, which basically means in the southern region, who's political BOARD is liberal. As for the rest, it doesn't matter how we got here, most of us are liberal now. 

[Brisketexan 105546]

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I misspoke somewhat: We are the only college football board I know of, which basically means in the southern region, who's political BOARD is liberal. As for the rest, it doesn't matter how we got here, most of us are liberal now. 

Sure, by the definition used in the shithole that is political discourse in this country.  Fuck, today,  the term "liberal" includes everyone who doesn't support a Trump-led overthrow of the United States government to install an authoritarian regime for the next 100 years.  "Liberal" is a pretty fucking big tent by that definition....but not fucking big enough (fucking seriously, over a third of the country wants a Trump-led dictatorship.  They fucking joyfully masturbate to that idea.  WTF?).

[956 Worldwide 34883]

I should also add that TexAgs was always sort of “general old man conservative” that got dumber along with the GOP. Until they allowed the Q folks to have a no-criticism safe space. It plunged right into Kremlin conspiracy fascism.  It’s a lesson for any online space about protecting loons. The online equivalent of local ordinances that don’t allow removal of tent encampments, except I’d rather have panhandlers on my sidewalk than a Q-Anon evangelist. 

[SydneyCarton 48267]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Sure, by the definition used in the shithole that is political discourse in this country.  Fuck, today,  the term "liberal" includes everyone who doesn't support a Trump-led overthrow of the United States government to install an authoritarian regime for the next 100 years.  "Liberal" is a pretty fucking big tent by that definition....but not fucking big enough (fucking seriously, over a third of the country wants a Trump-led dictatorship.  They fucking joyfully masturbate to that idea.  WTF?).

Your response is another weird effort to show up and spike a football for adopting The Ledge. Why don't we go ahead and assume, as someone is fairly intelligent and participates on this political forum populated by mostly left leaning and like minded folks, that I am using LIBERAL correctly, and not through your prism of America.

That being public services for all, investing in education, taking care of the homeless and mentally ill, investing in people, etc. 

[Brisketexan 105546]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Your response is another weird effort to show up and spike a football for adopting The Ledge. Why don't we go ahead and assume, as someone is fairly intelligent and participates on this political forum populated by mostly left leaning and like minded folks, that I am using LIBERAL correctly, and not through your prism of America.

That being public services for all, investing in education, taking care of the homeless and mentally ill, investing in people, etc. 

What you are describing is now deemed "communism" in American political discourse.

The Overton Window has shifted so fucking far to the right that even Putin would have a hard time finding it to accurately defenestrate a political threat out said window.

[SydneyCarton 48267]

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

What you are describing is now deemed "communism" in American political discourse.

The Overton Window has shifted so fucking far to the right that even Putin would have a hard time finding it to accurately defenestrate a political threat out said window.

Jesus, we fucking know you, and we get it. But sometimes, just shut the fuck up. We were literally having a fucking conversation about this website compared to others, we don't always need you to come in here with your fucking pre-canned bullshit about how fucked up America is, how stupid Americans are, and how political discorse is bullshit. We all fucking know, we post in the fucking Cloak Room. 

In a world in as bad a shape as ours, can you just sometimes go and smear your shit on the walls of the football board or daily texan, instead of perpetually smearing it on the threads with people who are similarly minded as you? You know, as a fucking favor to the rest of us that share a simliar worldview as you. I don't mean like never, but can you dial it down from 100% of the time to just a meager 80% of the time? Fuck. You claim to be a fucking Christian, can you show your brothers some fucking mercy?

And for fuck's sake, do not take that last sentence as an opporunity to talk about American Christianity. Pretend I fucking typed "follower of Jesus" you fucking predictable fuck. Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative, why don't you mix in a little more Oscar Wilde into your fucking life. 

Edited September 7, 2023 by SydneyCarton

[TwiceHorn 31672]

30 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Is it really though? I mean I’m ostensibly sort of a liberal (‘Cabal’ charter member), and obviously we picked up a handful of actual lefties along the way but most of the longtime “liberals” on this forum are disaffected former Republicans who were defending George Allen and the Bush Tax Cuts 20 years ago.

Yeah, if we ever get back to sensible, "bipartisan" compromise politics or lawmaking, the constituency of the board may fall on the more conservative end of things.

Maybe "classically liberal."

[SydneyCarton 48267]

1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, if we ever get back to sensible, "bipartisan" compromise politics or lawmaking, the constituency of the board may fall on the more conservative end of things.

Maybe "classically liberal."

I like to think that my eyes have opened a bit and I've actually changed for the better. I still don't think we should have 30 trillion in debt, and I would fight to bring down our deficit. But not at the expense of public spending and investing in people. 

[Brisketexan 105546]

4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Jesus, we fucking know you, and we get it. But sometimes, just shut the fuck up. We were literally having a fucking conversation about this website compared to others, we don't always need you to come in here with your fucking pre-canned bullshit about how fucked up America is, how stupid Americans are, and how political discorse is bullshit. We all fucking know, we post in the fucking Cloak Room. 

In a world in as bad a shape as ours, can you just sometimes go and smear your shit on the walls of the football board or daily texan, instead of perpetually smearing it on the threads with people who are similarly minded as you? You know, as a fucking favor to the rest of us that share a simliar worldview as you. I don't mean like never, but can you dial it down from 100% of the time to just a meager 80% of the time? Fuck. You claim to be a fucking Christian, can you show your brothers some fucking mercy?

And for fuck's sake, do not take that last sentence as an opporunity to talk about American Christianity. Pretend I fucking typed "follower of Jesus" you fucking predictable fuck. Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative, why don't you mix in a little more Oscar Wilde into your fucking life. 

Dude, I never fly Delta.

[The Royal We 3072]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

I like to think that my eyes have opened a bit and I've actually changed for the better. I still don't think we should have 30 trillion in debt, and I would fight to bring down our deficit. But not at the expense of public spending and investing in people. 

Basically where I am at this point too. I don’t know or care what historical bucket that puts me in either. 
 

The out and out fuckery caused me to stop/look around/reevaluate some long held beliefs that I essentially inherited from my parents. 

When I wade into someplace like IT’s political forum I feel a little surprised that more of my fellow longhorns haven’t done the same thing. Surprised and disappointed tbh. 

[SydneyCarton 48267]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Dude, I never fly Delta.

No, you're an actual fucking Carnival Cruise shit ship. 

[SydneyCarton 48267]

Just now, The Royal We said:

Basically where I am at this point too. I don’t know or care what historical bucket that puts me in either. 
 

The out and out fuckery caused me to stop/look around/reevaluate some long held beliefs that I essentially inherited from my parents. 

When I wade into someplace like IT’s political forum I feel a little surprised that more of my fellow longhorns haven’t done the same thing. Surprised and disappointed tbh. 

I too often pinpoint all the shit that was my kneejerk response even into my 20s that I inhereted from adults and other talking points around me. "Well, they should fucking get a job!" and that bullshit. It's hard to shake brainwashing, I guess, even if you're a good and kind person. 

[Js1 85687]

27 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I like to think that my eyes have opened a bit and I've actually changed for the better. I still don't think we should have 30 trillion in debt, and I would fight to bring down our deficit. But not at the expense of public spending and investing in people. 

It’s a lot of debt but I’m for it if it’s because we are funding social programs to lift people up and not just make the rich richer 

[G650 14298]

31 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I like to think that my eyes have opened a bit and I've actually changed for the better. I still don't think we should have 30 trillion in debt, and I would fight to bring down our deficit. But not at the expense of public spending and investing in people. 

This is it. A lot of us who did vote for Republicans have changed our actual stances after encountering new information. We aren't just against Trump.

[SydneyCarton 48267]

2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

It’s a lot of debt but I’m for it if it’s because we are funding social programs to lift people up and not just make the rich richer 

Man, I'm not talking about the Inflation Reduction Act. I'm not talking about recent bills, or trends. I'm talking about tax cuts, specifically, and going from zero to 30 trillion in what, 30 years since Clinton? Trump's tax cuts added more to the national debt than any bill biden has added. The tax cuts of Bush, etc. Cutting tax revenue is the same as increasing spending, but doing both is horrendous. That's the kind of shit I'm against. 

I fully in my heart believe there is a way to increase our support of actual people, increase taxes, and make smart reforms that can bring our country's debt way down in like 10 years. Doesn't need to be zero. But down. 

[Js1 85687]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Man, I'm not talking about the Inflation Reduction Act. I'm not talking about recent bills, or trends. I'm talking about tax cuts, specifically, and going from zero to 30 trillion in what, 30 years since Clinton? Trump's tax cuts added more to the national debt than any bill biden has added. The tax cuts of Bush, etc. Cutting tax revenue is the same as increasing spending, but doing both is horrendous. That's the kind of shit I'm against. 

I fully in my heart believe there is a way to increase our support of actual people, increase taxes, and make smart reforms that can bring our country's debt way down in like 10 years. Doesn't need to be zero. But down. 

Dude I agree with you. Debt doesn’t bother me IF it’s being used to lift people up (social programs) and not just tax cuts for the rich. 

[elfenix 34379]

Sigh. On the linked thread, look at this fucking embarassment.
 
 
I tried to just link his page, but apparently Musk fucked with twitter so now it embeds all his fucking tweets if you paste his main thread.
 
TTom, maybe?

Twitter has always worked like that. Post a link to a profile and it embeds the whole timeline

Sigh. On the linked thread, look at this fucking embarassment.
 
 
I tried to just link his page, but apparently Musk fucked with twitter so now it embeds all his fucking tweets if you paste his main thread.
 
TTom, maybe?

Twitter has always worked like that. Post a link to a profile and it embeds the whole timeline

[RomaVicta 30061]

25 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Fuck, today,  the term "liberal" includes everyone who doesn't support a Trump-led overthrow of the United States government to install an authoritarian regime for the next 100 years.  "Liberal" is a pretty fucking big tent by that definition..

Exactly. I've been a consistent Dem voter since I first went to a polling place. I'm became largely straight ticket Dem during the Reagan years not out of fervor for Dem policies but because I could smell the stink behind the avuncular mask of Reagan's GOP. Rush Limbaugh rises to prominence at this time as well.  I respected the GOPs that were policy oriented, and I feel that those values are worthwhile even though I've rarely voted for a GOP.

When called to be specific about what party I'm with now, I call my group the pro-republic party and the fascists the anti-republic party. The policy debates are secondary and generally illusory.

1 hour ago, Stilicho said:

If there's one lesson I've picked up from the shag / surly over the years, it's be prepared to back up your bullshit or be prepared to get fucking roasted alive in short order.

I think this is a great point. This place is defined by good faith argument and analyis. Dogmatists need not apply.

[StassneyHorn 6679]

Give me a date and time, and I’ll attack SECRant with my liberal cabal members

[Pato del Muerto 52747]

9 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Man, I'm not talking about the Inflation Reduction Act. I'm not talking about recent bills, or trends. I'm talking about tax cuts, specifically, and going from zero to 30 trillion in what, 30 years since Clinton? Trump's tax cuts added more to the national debt than any bill biden has added. The tax cuts of Bush, etc. Cutting tax revenue is the same as increasing spending, but doing both is horrendous. That's the kind of shit I'm against. 

I fully in my heart believe there is a way to increase our support of actual people, increase taxes, and make smart reforms that can bring our country's debt way down in like 10 years. Doesn't need to be zero. But down. 

Quick point of order. The debt during the Clinton admin went from like 4T to 6T. Which is still child’s play compared to what has happened since, but he wasn’t at zero debt. He was for a while at zero deficit, or surplus. 

[TwiceHorn 31672]

48 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I like to think that my eyes have opened a bit and I've actually changed for the better. I still don't think we should have 30 trillion in debt, and I would fight to bring down our deficit. But not at the expense of public spending and investing in people. 

Gagreed.  

[SydneyCarton 48267]

6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Quick point of order. The debt during the Clinton admin went from like 4T to 6T. Which is still child’s play compared to what has happened since, but he wasn’t at zero debt. He was for a while at zero deficit, or surplus. 

This must be what I was thinking, because I commonly see that Clinton was the last/only president to have a surplus. 

[Brisketexan 105546]

24 minutes ago, G650 said:

This is it. A lot of us who did vote for Republicans have changed our actual stances after encountering new information. We aren't just against Trump.

Yeah, also plenty of this.  Examples of just my personal evolution over the past 30 years or so:

"Gay marriage": I used to have the (pretty stupid) position of "fine, they can have civil unions, but don't call them marriage, because that's something different."  Then, between living enough life to realize that fuck, everyone's got it hard, and why create division and hurt where you don't need to, AND an objective reading of the 14th amendment and realizing that it's pretty plain -- if the government is going to offer a license or stamp on a contract, then it can't discriminate based on the gender of the contracting parties.  So, I'm full-on in favor of legalized same-sex marriage.

Trickle-down economics: I bought into the hypothesis, it made some sense to me.  But I've seen us run at that wall numerous times now, and we just smash our heads against it....lots of pain, but no real trickling down.  It was a hypothesis.  It has been thoroughly tested.  It doesn't work.  It would be stupid to continue to buy it in the face of that evidence.

It doesn't mean that I'm a softie for every pet left-side idea or cause -- lots of "good intentions, but leading to bad results" over there.  Things like massive expansion of the availability of student loans (without attendant caps on tuition and such).  Also, it doesn't mean that my views aren't continuing to evolve as new evidence is available/is better understood.

In MOST countries, my views, evolved as they may be from where they were when I got out of college, would still be pretty centrist, wavering between center-right and center-left, depending on the subject matter.  I've made reference to the Economist before - I have always found myself agreeing with many of the positions taken therein (not all - I think the Economist has only paid lip service to the failings of modern liberal democracy and the global economy; they have yet to come around on real, meaningful measures to address those failings).  That puts me pretty close to center-right, at least in the ecosystem of the developed world/other liberal democracies.

But in the modern American political ecosystem, "center-right" positions make you a scorching libtard.  It's insane.  But "insane" is where we live now.

 

[jimmyjazz 46438]

I'm not fond of the debt, either, but you have to admit, those tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy have really trickled down and lifted the lower and middle classes.

[Bozo_Casanova 26652]

31 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Give me a date and time, and I’ll attack SECRant with my liberal cabal members

[G650 14298]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

"Gay marriage": I used to have the (pretty stupid) position of "fine, they can have civil unions, but don't call them marriage, because that's something different."

 

Funny enough, this is one thing I feel the same on, because I have been against civil marriage for everyone since I was probably a teenager. I think it should be across the board civil partnership for everyone. Marriage shouldn't be the language the government uses in any shape or form imo.

[Bozo_Casanova 26652]

32 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Quick point of order. The debt during the Clinton admin went from like 4T to 6T. Which is still child’s play compared to what has happened since, but he wasn’t at zero debt. He was for a while at zero deficit, or surplus. 

 

25 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

This must be what I was thinking, because I commonly see that Clinton was the last/only president to have a surplus. 

I got you fam

 

 

[Brisketexan 105546]

13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm not fond of the debt, either, but you have to admit, those tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy have really trickled down and lifted the lower and middle classes.

And on the debt front, I'll say this -- yes, too much/crippling debt is bad.  So, CONTROL your debt.  Keep it manageable.

But let's be clear about what debt allows us to do -- and there's a simple comparison case that works well.

In the US, it's (all things considered) easy to get a mortgage (maybe too easy in some cases, but let's just imagine a normal, managed mortgage environment).  Because Jane and John Public can get a mortgage, they can buy or build a house.  Assume a house within their means, even -- something like $250k-$300k (yeah, in Austin, that's a Lennar home out past Manor, but...it IS a home).

In other countries where mortgages are not available to most people (see, e.g., Mexico . . . at least until recently, I understand that the mortgage market there has expanded in recent years), Juan and Juana can't buy or build a house.  Instead, they set money aside.  When they have enough, they pour a foundation.  Then, when they have saved some more, they can frame it.  Then, when they have saved some more, they can put on a roof, etc.

Having money-borrowing available allows people to acquire larger, more expensive assets, that simply can't be purchased with cash based on an average person's cash-flow.

Public debt is no different.  It would be SUPER shitty if your government only built a couple of miles of road a year, using only that year's tax revenues.  Or it only built 5% of a new water treatment plant, because that's all that year's taxes would pay for....instead of issuing debt, building the plant in the next 18 months so we have water when we need it, and paying down that debt over the next 20 years (using tax receipts and water revenues to do so).

The availability of capital to borrow is one of the things that allowed western democracies to prosper.  It's why you have a good water and sewer system in your city.  It's why you, a middle class Joe and not a Duke or Prince, own a house and a car.

So, the insane "debt hawk" shit being spewed these days, nevermind the fact that it's spewed by the very people responsible for increasing our debt for no discernible benefit (the Trump tax cuts didn't help a single person access a new road or have clean water or a working sewer system or anything else that benefits the public) . . . yeah, it's nonsense.

Edited September 7, 2023 by Brisketexan

[jimmyjazz 46438]

borked

Edited September 7, 2023 by jimmyjazz