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5 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I'm not about to sign up for Twitter to find this out, but is the Babylon Bee dickhead calling this "wild" in an approving way or in a disapproving way?

It's really bad.  Like "the Germans had no choice to kill the Jews, they simply didn't have the facilities to hold them so they had to do something with them" kind of bad.

It's another new low for Tucker, although the bar was already extremely low.

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37 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I'm not about to sign up for Twitter to find this out, but is the Babylon Bee dickhead calling this "wild" in an approving way or in a disapproving way?

It's a parody website...like "The Onion".  

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5 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

It's a parody website...like "The Onion".  

I know Babylon Bee is a right-wing "parody" site. It's much less funny than the Onion.

That's the founder/head's (Seth Dillon's) personal twitter account calling Tucker's interview clip "wild." I just wanted to know if he's calling it "wild" because he agrees and finds the argument meritorious and good, or because he's calling it ridiculous and shameful.

 

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52 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

I know Babylon Bee is a right-wing "parody" site. It's much less funny than the Onion.

That's the founder/head's (Seth Dillon's) personal twitter account calling Tucker's interview clip "wild." I just wanted to know if he's calling it "wild" because he agrees and finds the argument meritorious and good, or because he's calling it ridiculous and shameful.

 

He does not agree. He's in a Twxttxr slap fight over it. 

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Babylon Bee guy continues to weigh in on Tucker and his Nazi guest. 
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The fact that he wrote this brutal truth is incredible…and totally accurate:

“But this is the new playbook for many on the right. They make provocative statements in hopes of generating objections, and then they cite those objections as proof that no one is allowed to have the conversation. I guess they think you're too stupid to see that the objections are themselves part of the conversation.”

Bullseye. That’s Tucker’s whole schtick. Fuck all off these assholes.
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29 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Tucker Carlson says he was attacked in his bed by a demon.  He’s into total grift mode or has a mental illness. 

 

That’s an odd way of dealing with getting fired. Maybe he needs to tan his sack more 

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28 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Tucker Carlson says he was attacked in his bed by a demon.  He’s into total grift mode or has a mental illness. 

 

Yes, I'm sure it was a demon and not one of the four dogs sleeping with you, Fucker.

 

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Russia doesn’t mind the slow poisoning cause of death. 
 

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Yeah, they poisoned him while he was there intentionally or unintentionally by feeding him brain worm infected food or a radioactive isotope.  Maybe he'll turn into a TMNT 

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3 hours ago, Pancho said:

Is his…brain….dying?

 

Jesus tapdancing christ, he's turned into this:

fuckin-magnets-how-do-they-work-me-irl-2

He can't figure out how nuclear technology became known to man?  So....he's never heard of fucking physicists?  Rutherford?  Fermi?  Einstein?

What the fucking fuck is wrong with these people's fucking brains?  For the love of electrified monkeyfuck, his family fortune is DIRECTLY tied to radiation (microwaved frozen dinners).

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Tucker Carlson Wildly Claims Abortion Causes Hurricanes: ‘You Can’t Participate in Human Sacrifice Without Consequences’

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-wildly-claims-abortion-causes-hurricanes-you-cant-participate-in-human-sacrifice-without-consequences/

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“And I have to say, I’m sure I’ll be attacked for saying this, but I really believe it,” he said. “People are like, ‘Oh, well, we had another hurricane. Must be global warming.’ No, it’s probably abortion, actually. Just being honest. Like, you can’t do that. You can’t kill children on purpose, knowing that you’re doing that in exchange for power or freedom or happiness or whatever you think you’re getting in return. You can’t participate in human sacrifice without consequences.”

 

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Wait, so the 3 million Vietnamese that were killed in the war were Christians?  The X millions killed in Iraq were Christians? The X hundred thousands killed in Afghanistan were Christians? I'm even more confused now.  You can just say any shit these days with a straight face and millions of dumbasses will believe it.

FACT: People who call themselves Christians have caused the most deaths and suffering on this planet in history.  This is not disputable.

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8 hours ago, bolverk said:

The greatest fear I have is losing my mind through dementia, Alzheimer's, or something similar in my old age.

If this prick is suffering through it at his age, I couldn't think of a worse punishment for being such a dinky dicked disgrace.

I have a similar fear, but I don't think it's the curse you believe it to be for the person with Dementia. My fear for dementia is the suffering it will cause for the peope around me, which is tremendous, and sucking away any money i could have otherwise passed onto my loved ones. The person with dementia is often out of out. SUre they may get angry or confused, but the real suffering is the kids or spouse caring for them. 

Dementia for that fuck is him getting off lightly, probably living in a world where he still thinks he's president. Fuck. That. 

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Wait, so the 3 million Vietnamese that were killed in the war were Christians?  The X millions killed in Iraq were Christians? The X hundred thousands killed in Afghanistan were Christians? I'm even more confused now.  You can just say any shit these days with a straight face and millions of dumbasses will believe it.

FACT: People who call themselves Christians have caused the most deaths and suffering on this planet in history.  This is not disputable.

What Tucker says is bullshit, but this last piece is almost certainly not true.  The Mao and Stalin regimes along probably win for pure numbers.  Total population on earth wasn’t high enough to rack up those kinds of numbers until the 20th century when totalitarianism emerged.  
 

Even before that, the big numbers were rung up in Eurasia by the Mongols or the Chinese in wars almost no one besides East Asian specialists know about. 

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9 hours ago, bolverk said:

The greatest fear I have is losing my mind through dementia, Alzheimer's, or something similar in my old age.

If this prick is suffering through it at his age, I couldn't think of a worse punishment for being such a dinky dicked disgrace.

Tucker is so full of shit and he knows it, that’s why he is leaning in hard into this act because he needs money after getting fired from Fox. 

Watch this 1999 clip where Tucker criticizes Pat Buchanan for acting exactly the way Tucker is acting now. I can’t embed the video.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4958308/user-clip-tucker-carlson-criticizes-pat-buchanan

Tucker tells Pat to cut the bullshit and stop saying “an evil cabal” is running everything to make voters hysterical. It’s a complete 180 from who he is now. Not to mention he was chummy enough with Biden to have him write a letter to help get his kid into Georgetown. 

 

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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-jon-stewart.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
 

if you have NYTimes … and I think you should as you can pay $4 / month digital subscription AND get the Athletic included… then listen to this. I always enjoy hearing Jon and he blunts Ezra’s Ezra-ness. But for those who just want the part about Tuckerand Megan Kelly gets pulled in as well:

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I knew Tucker Carlson in those days, and his signal characteristic, to me, the thing I think you were picking up on, particularly about him, is he treated it all as a joke.

You can go back and read Tucker Carlson’s old magazine journalism, and it’s great, hilarious magazine journalism. He was a very, very good magazine writer when he was young. And he went through all these very quick transformations. He was on MSNBC for a while. People forget that. Rachel Maddow, one of her early breaks was that she was a regular contributor to Tucker Carlson’s show on MSNBC. He was this kind of good-times libertarian type. And he was a guy who treated it all kind of as a game.

I guess what I will say for him now is I don’t think it’s a joke to him now. Something happened there. I think his politics are much more serious and much more real and, obviously for that, much more dangerous.

Humiliation happened.

Yeah. I’m curious how you understand what happened to him psychologically.

I hate to do this to you, Ezra. I’m going to describe this to you in professional wrestling terms, since that was one of the analogies that I used on there.

See, this is actually the sport I know.

OK, Ezra, you and I are going to have a good time here.

We’re in good shape here. Kayfabe, I got it.

Beautiful. So, what I was complaining about on “Crossfire” was kayfabe — this idea that this is just theater and everybody’s playing a character and nobody’s a blah, blah, blah.

But the other way to describe it for them is, there’s an establishment, and then there’s the anti-establishment — the disrupters and the rebels. Tucker Carlson was establishment, and he tried to be a face. He was a heel. Like, Fox News, Megyn Kelly, same thing.

“Face” being a good guy, “heel” being a bad guy.

That’s right. So she’s on the heel network, Fox, but she’s kind of the face on Fox. She’s the one that, like, every now and again will say something, and the establishment or liberals will go, like, “Wow, that’s empathy. That’s interesting” or “Oh, she’s not toeing a dogmatic party line.”

So they decide like, “Oh, I will live amongst the faces. I will join them. I will be a part of the establishment.” And the establishment and the faces reject them — they feel wrongly — and with a dogmatic litmus test, and it’s never good enough, and it’s their intolerance that put them in that position.

So they tried to live amongst the normies. And when that blows up and creates humiliation and returns them to, I think, their truer selves. I prefer them the way they are right now. I kind of dig it.

Explain that.

I’d rather someone not pretend to be Barbie and just be who she is, which is, I think, Ursula from “The Little Mermaid.” See, I went from pro wrestling to “The Little Mermaid.”

In many ways, Ezra, I am still stuck in the same entertainment options that I was using when my kids were little. I am frozen in that time. But do you get my point? Like, what happened is, they view — and Donald Trump in the same way. He views that there’s this world that is excluding them, and they are excluding them purely for dogmatic — and “They think they’re better than me, and they hold these views that they think their [expletive] doesn’t stink. And I stepped into that world and tried to be amongst them, and they rejected that because they’re [expletive]. And now I can just be in my own world and be as angry and as vicious as I think I was treated.” And I think that’s kind of the way it goes.

I think it’s so interesting. I don’t know Megyn Kelly’s story as well as I know or have watched Carlson and Trump.

I think it’s very similar. Her moment was “I joined NBC.”

Archived “Today” clip: This morning is the launch of “Megyn Kelly Today,” just about six minutes from now.

Show didn’t go that well.

And this is after being run out of Fox News, by the way, because she asked hard questions of Donald Trump at the first debate. She was rejected by the right first, because she was not sufficiently pro-Trump and he came after her. And within a year, she was out.

Right. And that’s what I was saying. That’s what I meant by she was a face. She became a face. So if you think about it, both Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly were rejected, and the reasoning behind their rejection, I think, is still misunderstood.

I didn’t get “Crossfire” canceled. “Crossfire” ratings sucked, and CNN looked for a way out, and that was a convenient flashpoint. And by the way, none of that had much to do with Tucker Carlson anyway. The person I really didn’t like there was Robert Novak, but he just wasn’t on the show that day.

And Megyn Kelly in the same thing — her show just wasn’t connecting on NBC.

Archived clip of Megyn Kelly: I’m Megyn Kelly, and I want to begin with two words. I’m sorry. You may have heard that yesterday we had a discussion here about political correctness and Halloween costumes.

And then she had that moment of — it was a blackface, I think, comment about the thing.

Archived clip of Kelly: I defended the idea, saying as long as it was respectful and part of a Halloween costume, it seemed OK. Well, I was wrong, and I am sorry.

If her show was killing it, they’d have found a way to forgive it. They’d have found a way to keep her on there. But they used it as a convenient excuse.

Archived clip: After public outcry stemming from controversial comments she made this week, all eyes are on what happens next for the anchor as her time with the “Today" show comes to an end.

Archived clip: The move comes four days after her blackface comments that provoked a firestorm leading to a tearful apology.

Archived clip: The chairman of NBC News condemned Kelly’s remarks during a staff town hall, according to Variety, saying, “There is no place on our air or in this workplace for them.”

I’m sure for her, it was incredibly painful and felt like a “canceled because of my viewpoints.” But the truth of the matter is, NBC executives and CNN executives, they aren’t woke. They aren’t any of those things. They’re [expletive] desperately trying to hold on to their jobs by generating ad revenue, by whatever means necessary.

And so that’s what they got caught up on. And by the way, though, the way that it happened attacked them at a core level. And that’s what’s created it. Like, I’ve been canceled a [expletive] ton of times. But the only reason I was canceled is the network executives just were like, “Yeah, this show sucks.” But they didn’t say, like, “You’re a bad person, and that’s why we’re canceling the show.” And that’s what they did to them.

The industry, rather than standing up for what was really going on there, which is, “You’re not generating enough revenue and interest to justify your large contract” or whatever it is, they turned it into “We’re getting rid of you for a moral failing or lapse.” And that was wrong.

Listen — I don’t care for what they do. I don’t care for their opinions. But what happened to them was wrong.

The executives are interesting here. I was thinking about this when you were relaying that story about Roger Ailes. There was a period in my life when I did a lot of MSNBC and was a guest host on a lot of the prime time programs there.

And so I knew the people who ran it pretty well. And what I would say about the people who ran MSNBC was they were, fundamentally, not that ideological. They were television executives. That’s why Tucker Carlson had a show and why they were so excited about Joe Scarborough and still are, why recently they tried to hire Ronna McDaniel, the sort of disgraced Republican National Committee chair. That didn’t end up working out because of revolt by people at the network morals.

Roger Ailes is honestly ideological. As he’s put it, he had a vision, a view about how things should be. He wanted to be successful, but he also actually knew what he was trying to achieve in the world. Those NBC executives who brought on Megyn Kelly — it was obvious to me that that show wasn’t going to work. But they wanted the look of bringing on Megyn Kelly because they are not that ideological and particularly don’t want to be seen as ideological.

But they’re lying to themselves because they place things in a moral universe when they really are just crass executives who are trying to sell — that’s the part where I think the critique — if there’s one critique of the media from the right that I do agree with, it is the moralizing nature, the idea that these media executives moralize their position. There may be no greater disparity between reality and whatever idealized moral image you have of yourselves. Like, who the [expletive] do you think you are? You have a board up in your room that shows, like, who’s getting what clicks where. That’s just nonsense.

I mean, I would almost welcome — maybe not necessarily a more moral component but a component of the news media that is more forceful editorially. Ailes’s greatest trick was delegitimizing the idea of editorial authority while exercising almost complete editorial authority but doing it in a way that was really smart. There is no condescension and moralizing on Fox. It’s people on a couch asking questions: “Are you worried about how many terrorists are coming in on the border? Do you ever worry about that?”

Whereas if you turn on MSNBC, sometimes it’s like, birds descending at sea on a tuna boat, going, “That’s factually incorrect. Incorrect! Not correct! Incorrect!” And you’re just like, “Augh! I can’t listen to this.”

But that’s the brilliance of it. So when I say Megyn Kelly’s right, I do believe she’s right. They pretended that they had to get rid of her out of some moral obligation to enlightened racism sensibility. Like, [expletive] you. That is so not what you did. If they’re making money, they’re making money, and they’ll let you get away with anything. Anything. As we see.

But when you ain’t making money anymore and they don’t, for some reason, have the temerity to just go, “Yeah, you’re not making us any money,” they find some pretense of your moral failing and yank you.

And so I get where some of that anger comes from from those folks. Don’t have a ton of sympathy, because I’ve been fired a bunch of times, too, but for the old-fashioned reasons of sucking.

When I think of Tucker Carlson now, I miss the triviality — that there was enough agreed upon that you could have the theater, the Kabuki. And now it feels like we’ve slipped down in this place where it’s like, Will we be a white ethnonationalist state? That’s harder to have a funny debate over.

 

 

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