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It must have been horrible as a six year old to face a world where the person you need most, the fixed sun in your little solar system, wanted nothing to do with you. Emotionally, like waking up one day and the sun being gone. Worse than a death, the idea that your mother doesn’t want you. 
 

You can decide to try and spread your pain around or you can decide to try and reduce what pain others feel. Tucker chooses the former every day. 

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Did he film an interview about his mother's final days from the back booth a a fucking Bennigan's???

Hey Tucker, what's the place you like to talk about your mom at with the mozzarella sticks and all the goofy shit on the walls?  

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Fuck you, Tucker.

'Turns out Tucker Carlson needs Fox News more than Fox News needs Tucker Carlson'

Fuck Fox too.

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/two-months-later-its-clear-tucker-carlson-needed-fox-news-more-than-fox-needed-tucker/

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On Apr. 24, Fox News announced that its 8 p.m. host Tucker Carlson was leaving the network. The ouster of the most-watched host on cable news sent shockwaves through the political-media ecosystem. It sparked a reporting frenzy to get to the bottom of what actually happened, why he was fired, and what would come next — both for the top-rated cable news network and the most influential hard-right pundit in the country.

Now the dust has settled, it’s clear that Fox News was far more important to Carlson than he was to Fox News — a result that might surprise the Tucker Stans, who insisted his departure was Fox’s death knell.

It hasn’t all been rosy. Fox News took a significant hit in ratings in the weeks that followed Carlson’s ouster. In some metrics, the replacement hosts tapped to fill in the slot drew just half of Carlson’s audience, which remains enraged by his firing.

Viewership has started to tick back up, however, indicating that this viewer revolt is not as dire as ones seen in the past (see: the 2020 bloodbath). Even the ratings plunge came with a silver lining: advertisers that had steered clear of Carlson’s controversial show returned to the hour after his ouster.

Moreover, Carlson’s career as an independent news anchor hasn’t proved to be much of a match for his former network.

Since leaving Fox, Carlson has taken to posting roughly 12-minute monologues he records at his home in Maine on Twitter. Elon Musk, who now owns the social media platform, has promoted the episodes and touted their public viewer stats.

His debut episode drew staggering numbers — or so it seemed. Mediaite’s Aidan McLaughlin wrote earlier this month that “as of writing, Twitter says 114 million people have seen the 10-minute monologue” His second episode generated roughly half that, which is not a great trend, but it still clocked in at more than 50 million views.

But that “view” metric only measures users who have viewed the tweet. They are not even close to being comparable to cable news ratings, which are measured in terms of a concurrent average.

Earlier this week, Carlson dropped his seventh “Tucker on Twitter” episode, and as of writing, the tweet has just 14 million views. Again, that measures only users who have had the tweet served to them, not individuals who have watched the video. The actual number of people who are still watching Carlson’s Twitter show is far, far lower.

Let’s look at how Fox’s ratings are faring. Yes, Fox News saw a sharp decline in viewers following Tucker’s ouster. Prime time ratings dropped 34 percent and the advertiser-coveted adults 25-54 demo dipped 46 percent. But total day ratings saw a less steep dip of 19 percent and 25 percent in the key demo. That’s bad but not nearly as catastrophic as the 2020 post-election decline that saw Fox News temporarily in last place. Following the 2020 presidential election, Fox News saw a decline of 41 percent in total day viewers and 47 percent in the demo. Prime time — which included Tucker Carlson — dropped 47 percent in total viewers and a massive 57 percent in the demo.

Fox News ratings have yet to fully return to the highs seen before Carlson was shown the door. But does anyone seriously question, with the 2024 election approaching, that they will get there? This isn’t Fox’s first rodeo, nor will it be its last. The network recently announced a new lineup filling key hours with familiar faces. Critics might call it uninspired, but watch it work. It’s all part of the Fox show; does it really matter who the talking head is? (So long as it isn’t Kayleigh McEnany, the ex-Trump official who bombed in Carlson’s old slot.)

Putting aside the declining numbers of Carlson’s Twitter show, another soft metric illustrates his weakened influence: His videos generate next to zero buzz.

When he was hosting his show on Fox News, Carlson’s commentary was hotly debated across Twitter and covered on the pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post. CNN and MSNBC hosts would look to fill their daily rundowns with whatever outrage Carlson had spawned.

Tucker had a knack for identifying the forbidden topic in the eyes of mainstream media and going right at it, even if it meant spewing racist tropes or supporting a Russian dictator responsible for killing children in Ukraine. Carlson didn’t care much — he was getting an audience and attention. He was getting talked about and driving a narrative. Sure, maybe he was a divisive wedge whose commentary fueled a movement that undermined U.S. democracy. But to quote a Carlsonism: “whatever!”

The trouble for Carlson is that “Tucker on Twitter” has failed to maintain the buzz he commanded on his nightly Fox News show. His most recent episode featured the usual high brow-low brow commentary with a hint of conspiracy and an oversized dollop of snark. Beyond the style, though, it was mostly a mess of disconnected ideas and insults. I transcribed the episode in a failed attempt to make sense of his case, which he kicked off by arguing that supporting Ukraine is really about D.C. careerists who really want to be fascists and ended by concluding that California Governor Gavin Newsom is leading the coup.

Now, Carlson is seeking investment to start his own media company, according to the reliable reporting of Puck News’s Dylan Byers. This seems a natural progression and one that follows other ex-Fox Newsers like Glenn Beck and Megyn Kelly, who have forged their own paths by hosting shows outside of linear television platforms.

It makes sense, particularly since no other cable or broadcast outlet would have Carlson on their air. And as more cords are cut, there is a strong argument that streaming platforms will, at some point, take over traditional cable outlets.

More concerning to Carlson, again, is not the number of eyeballs he will gather, but which eyeballs he’s collecting. Like Beck and Kelly, Carlson is now confined to preaching to his choir of most loyal supporters. No longer is he driving a narrative across the country, one that makes it onto the opinion pages of the Times or the halls of the U.S. House and Senate — bodies he delights in deriding but whose influence over he craves.

The leading influencer in conservative media and politics in the coming years is far more likely to be Carlson’s replacement, Jesse Watters, than anyone else. And given the power of the star-making machinery created by Roger Ailes, and streamlined under Suzanne Scott, it’s easy to imagine a future headline: “Tucker Who? Jesse Watters is the New Ratings Titan Driving Fox News.”

 

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How much has he made on his own and how much is that family worth again for him to be fundraising for a venture?  
 

 

Taking the Dotard approach -- why would Tucker spend his own money when he can spend somebody else's instead?

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How much has he made on his own and how much is that family worth again for him to be fundraising for a venture?  

He was making $25 -35 million a year from Fox and some other deals he had.  He's got enough, but yeah, don't use your own money.

And in theory he has the crew, since his show was broadcast from his home in Maine, and there were staffers up there.  Wouldn't be hard for him to convince those that wanted to stay to join up.

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I think he did 3 millions viewers per episode on Fox. Do we really think that many more people are watching him on Twitter when you can't even view the thing without an account?

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If I remember correctly, that's the number of times the tweet with the video got served to a Twitter user.  That isn't counting the number of people who actually hit play, which will be some number lower than the number of people who saw the tweet.  And it's most assuredly not counting the number of people who watched the video all the way through, which will be even lower than the number of people that hit play.  He's basically in the irrelevant section at this point.

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Peter Zeihan did a general talk and Q&A that was put on YouTube. At about the 1:14:00 mark he gets asked if he knows what Tucker's motivations are for propagating Russian propaganda. He says he doesn't know, but analyzing the speech in his shows where he's talking about Ukraine/Biden comes across as coming from someone that isn't a native English speaker (mainly Slavic). Basically hints that it looks like someone from Russia's propaganda arm is writing the material for him.

 

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29 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Peter Zeihan did a general talk and Q&A that was put on YouTube. At about the 1:14:00 mark he gets asked if he knows what Tucker's motivations are for propagating Russian propaganda. He says he doesn't know, but analyzing the speech in his shows where he's talking about Ukraine/Biden comes across as coming from someone that isn't a native English speaker (mainly Slavic). Basically hints that it looks like someone from Russia's propaganda arm is writing the material for him.

 

He predicted China's collapse in the next decade. That sounds a little sensational.

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I missed this somehow.  Just a shame.

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he accused an Arizona man of inciting the January 6 insurrection while working as a covert government agent in order to discredit disgraced former president Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. In other words: A typical, defamatory right-wing media conspiracy theory. But there’s a wrinkle. The man in question is an avowed MAGA-head named Ray Epps, who was enthusiastically present at January 6, but never breached the Capitol and did not participate in the more violent aspects of the insurrection. For those reasons, federal prosecutors have not charged him with a crime. Instead of correcting the record, Carlson intensified his slanders. Carlson repeated Epps’s name in nearly 20 episodes, forcing him and his wife to sell their family business and flee the state after receiving a deluge of death threats from people who believed the conspiracy theory. The two are now in hiding(!) and Ray Epps is suing Fox News for defamation. This could be another landmark post-2020 defamation case against Fox News. Legal experts believe Epps has a viable case. 

 

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Are we supposed to feel sorry for this Epps guy? He's on video telling MAGA fans they need to go inside the Capitol on the 6th and then the morning of the riots he was directing people towards it. I think the reason he's had to go into hiding is because he's a piece of shit and not because he's a piece of shit who also might be a federal agent. I certainly wouldn't associate with that fucker.

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1 hour ago, HRSchenker said:

Are we supposed to feel sorry for this Epps guy? He's on video telling MAGA fans they need to go inside the Capitol on the 6th and then the morning of the riots he was directing people towards it. I think the reason he's had to go into hiding is because he's a piece of shit and not because he's a piece of shit who also might be a federal agent. I certainly wouldn't associate with that fucker.

Yep, don't feel sorry one fucking bit.  You run with a conspiracy theory-prone crowd, don't fucking cry when you get caught up in a conspiracy theory.

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2 hours ago, HRSchenker said:

Are we supposed to feel sorry for this Epps guy? He's on video telling MAGA fans they need to go inside the Capitol on the 6th and then the morning of the riots he was directing people towards it. I think the reason he's had to go into hiding is because he's a piece of shit and not because he's a piece of shit who also might be a federal agent. I certainly wouldn't associate with that fucker.

Not at all. Huge case of fuck around and find out. 

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Russia is still dealing with the fallout from the stunning demise of the head of Wagner Group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, and his associates, all of whom recently perished in a fiery plane crash. This week, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters that several possible causes are being considered—including the possibility that it was a “deliberate atrocity.”

The same propagandists who previously asserted that Prigozhin must die for organizing an embarrassing mutiny that shattered the illusion of Vladimir Putin’s tight grip on power have sharply changed their course once their wish came true. They are now desperately spinning their wheels, attempting to impugn foreign powers for organizing the incident—and even predicting that Gen. Sergei Surovikin, a former commander of Russia’s forces in Ukraine (nicknamed “General Armageddon”) might be next.

On Thursday, Russia’s most prominent propagandist, Vladimir Solovyov, even more pompously predicted that soon there might be another potential victim: former Fox News host and current X (formerly Twitter) podcaster Tucker Carlson. The latest broadcast of The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov featured multiple clips of Carlson’s hysterical predictions, including his claim that the U.S. government is getting ready to go to war with Russia—a war he implied the U.S. would lose.

In a series of clips from Adam Carolla’s YouTube show that were hand-selected for Solovyov’s program, Carlson accused both Republicans and the Democrats of being “insane” and hysterical, predicting that a war between the U.S. and Russia would start next year.

Solovyov theatrically asked, “Who says that? A dead man walking! He sincerely believes that the next step after the accusations and the declaration of impeachment will be an assassination of Trump. But this man, who is currently the most popular English-speaking journalist, signed his own death warrant!”

Solovyov explained the main reason for Tucker’s potential troubles: “They will not forgive him for the fact that he strives to interview our president and post the footage on a platform that has no censorship!” For years, head of RT Margarita Simonyan had promoted the idea of granting Carlson’s long-standing wish to interview Putin. Last Sunday, she again reiterated her plea, describing the fired Fox News host as “the most popular host in the history of the United States” and hoping out loud that someone from the Presidential Administration will hear her message.

The Trump Indictment Has Team Putin Shaking in Their Boots

Earlier Thursday morning, Solovyov interviewed Dimitri Simes, the former president and CEO of The Center for the National Interest, a Washington foreign policy think tank that was mentioned in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report. Simes told Solovyov that he was previously involved in attempting to help Carlson set up the coveted interview. In one of his recent radio broadcasts, Solovyov mentioned that even actor Steven Seagal was pushing for Carlson to finally get this long-awaited opportunity.

During his evening show, Solovyov predicted dire consequences that would follow Carlson’s persistent attempts to score a sit-down with the Russian president: “I can’t rule out that in the near future, as he is leaving Europe, there will either be an air crash or something will happen to the car in which he will be traveling, or he might eat something that he shouldn’t, maybe his heart will suddenly stop! If I were in his place, I would tell no one of my travel routes.”

The warnings sounded like something that might have been useful to someone like Prigozhin or numerous people who found themselves on the wrong side of Putin and ended up paying the ultimate price. Perhaps they were also useful in attempting to persuade the domestic audiences that Russia is not the only place in turmoil and political assassinations are quite common all over the globe.

Ratcheting up the conspiratorial mood permeating the studio, Solovyov expressly agreed with Carlson’s outlandish predictions of the impending Armageddon. He pontificated, “We are on the verge of a global hot war! It’s unavoidable because it benefits everyone!”

 

 

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On 7/10/2023 at 11:30 PM, Schulz2.0 said:

Peter Zeihan did a general talk and Q&A that was put on YouTube. At about the 1:14:00 mark he gets asked if he knows what Tucker's motivations are for propagating Russian propaganda. He says he doesn't know, but analyzing the speech in his shows where he's talking about Ukraine/Biden comes across as coming from someone that isn't a native English speaker (mainly Slavic). Basically hints that it looks like someone from Russia's propaganda arm is writing the material for him.

 

It wouldn’t surprise me if he’s getting his TPS straight from Simonyan, but it almost doesn’t matter. There is no one making these arguments on Ukraine in the information space who ISN’T recycling Moscow’s narratives. Tucker’s writers sure as shit isn’t smart enough to write their own. 

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