2023 Republican Government Shutdown: Same Shit, Same Story

[Hank Kingsley 21,032]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Going back through my KGB playbook, it appears we’re in stage three.

Stage 3: Crisis –  

The government systems cannot function anymore.  

Society collapses- can't function properly  

Power struggle occurs.  
 

[David Dennison 18,945]

6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Going back through my KGB playbook, it appears we’re in stage three.

Stage 3: Crisis –  

The government systems cannot function anymore.  

Society collapses- can't function properly  

Power struggle occurs.  
 

Just to compare and contrast, where is Russia in the KGB playbook?

[Pancho 44,965]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Just to compare and contrast, where is Russia in the KGB playbook?

Stage 4: Normalization... they’ve been there since around 2000

[CooterBrown 18,022]

Don’t forget the two million contractors who are out, and may not even get any backpay.  

If consultants can make another 0.1% by not paying their employees, you know they’re gonna do it.

[David Dennison 18,945]

7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Stage 4: Normalization... they’ve been there since around 2000

It's amazing we're getting tooled around by a third rate, backward nation state.

Something tells me we have a lot to do with their current predicament. I guess that makes me feel a little better.

Edited January 23, 2019 by David Dennison

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

It's amazing we're getting tooled around by a third rate, backward nation state.

While their economy is dogshit, their power, wealth, and intelligence capabilities are so centralized, it makes them just as dangerous as anyone else.

and they still have all the nukes for defense. 

[David Dennison 18,945]

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

While their economy is dogshit, their power, wealth, and intelligence capabilities are so centralized, it makes them just as dangerous as anyone else.

and they still have all the nukes for defense. 

They are not nearly as dangerous as we are.

But they do have nukes.

[Party_Taco 3,762]

 

This is 100% the plan - It’s the only thing that makes sense. The two main perpetrators of this shutdown are compromised by Russia and starving the justice department and the intelligence community is the only means of slowing that fact from being confirmed.

[GSU&UT 1,798]

 

[GSU&UT 1,798]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Regarding sick outs by TSA, ATC, etc. wife sent me this link.  Article from earlier today:

https://m.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2019/01/opm-warns-feds-against-sick-outs/154334/?oref=m-ge-river

 

 

This is just incredibly amazing and equally awful. Good luck punishing people and forcing them out of their jobs and trying to restaff after that. There would be a much longer last impact than Reagan firing all those air traffic controllers in '81.

[David Dennison 18,945]

7 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

 

DREAM Act costs $5.7 billion.

Only after you open the government.

[DixonHur 11,362]

At what point does the 13th Amendment kick in?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

At what point does the 13th Amendment kick in?

Gonna be hard to get a court hearing with the government shutdown.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,797]

34 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

This is just incredibly amazing and equally awful. Good luck punishing people and forcing them out of their jobs and trying to restaff after that. There would be a much longer last impact than Reagan firing all those air traffic controllers in '81.

Good thing we destroyed all those terrible unions! Now everyone can live much better... 

Edited January 23, 2019 by Doc Sam Beckett
Cholas 4 life

[relapse98 634]

1 hour ago, Pancho Negro said:

 

Shoulda socked away a rainy day fund, it's their own damn fault they live paycheck to paycheck. /conservatives 

[atomheartbevo 89,777]

3 hours ago, Grade of D as in David said:

This will not end this week. Trump cannot wait to have his sotu address in front of a maga rally.

Actually I think it’s bugging the shit out of him that Nancy is denying him the House floor.  Telling Donald Trump, President of the USA, that a member of Congress, a female Democrat no less, can keep him from speaking somewhere has got to be driving him nuts.  

[atomheartbevo 89,777]

1 hour ago, GSU&UT said:

This is just incredibly amazing and equally awful. Good luck punishing people and forcing them out of their jobs and trying to restaff after that. There would be a much longer last impact than Reagan firing all those air traffic controllers in '81.

Yep.  Anybody who would consider coming in and taking on these jobs are going to have to weigh the fact that Trump will shut down the government anytime he can to get whatever pet project he wants funded. 

[Hank Kingsley 21,032]

Interesting to watch this clip again. 

"Nobody knows the system better than me." Awkward silence. Then laughter. From his supporters. The Trump shrug like "yeah, Im full of shit but fuck it". 

"Which is why I alone can fix it." 

 

Edited January 23, 2019 by Hank Kingsley

[FondrenRoad 4,378]

11 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

Ex sister-in-law is an air traffic controller at Seattle-Tacoma Int.  She said that there's a rumor that air traffic controllers are going to call in sick in Atlanta in the middle of next week, shutting down the largest airport in the world just in time for the Super Bowl.  Two of her co-workers have taken retail jobs in order to make ends meet, so they're coming in to work dog tired.  She says there is a lot of desperation now. 

Note to self. Change next weeks flight to transfer in Charlotte instead of Atlanta. 

Edited January 23, 2019 by FondrenRoad

[bolverk 29,708]

44 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Note to self. Change next weeks flight to transfer in Charlotte instead of Atlanta. 

I flew out of Austin this past Friday night and the security line went fairly quickly. I will say, however, the TSA agents were in no mood to deal with the typical fucktards that don't know to remove their laptops or shoes. They seemed quite "surly."

Obviously, I wasn't privy to the shit being discussed between the pilots and ATCs, which I'm very grateful for not hearing.

[maninblack 7,974]

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,211]

8 hours ago, Pancho Negro said:

 

Yeah, it's all because of the shutdown.  Trump's constant bashing of the FBI had nothing to do with it, I'm sure.

[The People’s Elbow 707]

5 hours ago, bolverk said:

I flew out of Austin this past Friday night and the security line went fairly quickly. I will say, however, the TSA agents were in no mood to deal with the typical fucktards that don't know to remove their laptops or shoes. They seemed quite "surly."

Obviously, I wasn't privy to the shit being discussed between the pilots and ATCs, which I'm very grateful for not hearing.

Flew Lufthansa out of DIA last week and the TSA agent literally didn’t bother looking at my ID. She took it. She looked to see if my name popped up when I scanned my boarding pass. But she kept her arm outstretched and held my ID in a way it was literally impossible to see the front of it, and then handed it back.

[Bone3421 716]

Reportedly a deal has been struck. 

Aged well

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

 

[horncyclist 1,391]

28 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

This is a really effective message that should be accessible to most people. Earlier in the thread I analogized it to how you respond to a child throwing a fit. If you give in, they're going to do it again. Every parents knows this. 

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,211]

1 hour ago, The People’s Elbow said:

Flew Lufthansa out of DIA last week and the TSA agent literally didn’t bother looking at my ID. She took it. She looked to see if my name popped up when I scanned my boarding pass. But she kept her arm outstretched and held my ID in a way it was literally impossible to see the front of it, and then handed it back.

Yeah, but you're probably white so there's that.

[Asithappens 974]

2 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Yeah, it's all because of the shutdown.  Trump's constant bashing of the FBI had nothing to do with it, I'm sure.

Yeah, I bet it is all, or 99% b/c of the shutdown. 

Take your Putin anti-Americanism elsewhere, comrade.

[Post Oak 20,256]

3 hours ago, maninblack said:

 

He's 3/5ths correct

 

[DaysOff 7,969]

Going back through my KGB playbook, it appears we’re in stage three.

Stage 3: Crisis –  

The government systems cannot function anymore.  

Society collapses- can't function properly  

Power struggle occurs.  
 

You are fucking insane man.

[Aqua Buddha 14,600]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Exactly this.  Everyone knows he'll try this again a few months before the election.

[Bozo_Casanova 26,522]

He's 3/5ths correct
 

Beat me to it, +rep

[Pig Bellmont 8,724]

Not only is public opinion strongly against this but also...

we can throw in wrecking the economy to own the libs

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3,861]

4 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

"Only 28% say the wall is worth it"  Huh?  What could that possibly mean?  "Meaning fewer than 3 in 10 support it."  Oh!  I get it now!

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

1 hour ago, DaysOff said:

13 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Going back through my KGB playbook, it appears we’re in stage three.

Stage 3: Crisis –  

The government systems cannot function anymore.  

Society collapses- can't function properly  

Power struggle occurs.  
 

Read more  

You are fucking insane man.

Hey, I know how crazy this shit is but have you seen stage 1 and 2?

Stage one - demoralization - destroy objective truth.  Lie lie lie.

Stage two - destabilization 

You let your target population destabilize themselves. 
Radicalization begins.  
Polarization occurs among family, friends, and neighbors...results in constant fighting...Compromise is impossible
Law and order erodes – Society becomes antagonistic within itself – divisions, fracturing. 
The media puts itself in opposition to the society at large.  
Divisive cultural issues come to the mainstream resulting in conflict, sometimes violently.

 

But never mind me, I’m nuts.

Edited January 23, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[safe sex 11,746]

[nevermind]

Edited January 23, 2019 by trauma babe

[atomheartbevo 89,777]

So now they are saying tax refunds could be delayed, because IRS personnel are staying home, etc. 

and the polls show Trump is owning this, whether he wants it or not.   

Tomorrow is going to be interesting as hell.  Americans are going to find out whether their Senators care about them or appeasing Donnie. 

[relapse98 634]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So now they are saying tax refunds could be delayed, because IRS personnel are staying home, etc.

Yeah. It's a mistake to say that they are going out on time, when you are depending on people who are not currently receiving a paycheck to perform work. You can bet I'd probably be a little slow doing my work if I was there, but not getting my paycheck at the expected time.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Americans are going to find out whether their Senators care about them or appeasing Donnie. 

They will be disappointed.  

This is Kavanaugh on steroids 

[Pig Bellmont 8,724]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So now they are saying tax refunds could be delayed, because IRS personnel are staying home, etc. 

and the polls show Trump is owning this, whether he wants it or not.   

Tomorrow is going to be interesting as hell.  Americans are going to find out whether their Senators care about them or appeasing Donnie. 

We already know neither bill is getting 60 votes. How much longer until Mitch can’t keep Rs in caucus? Guys up for 2020 re-election should start to worry. For example, Do Texans really want a wall and government to seize private land at the expense of wrecking the economy and screwing federal law enforcement? 

[David Dennison 18,945]

12 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

They will be disappointed.  

This is Kavanaugh on steroids 

With much, much worse polls for Team Red.

[Spankytoes 1,743]

20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So now they are saying tax refunds could be delayed, because IRS personnel are staying home, etc. 

and the polls show Trump is owning this, whether he wants it or not.   

Tomorrow is going to be interesting as hell.  Americans are going to find out whether their Senators care about them or appeasing Donnie. 

Newsflash: The people supporting the shutdown don't receive "refunds"

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

With much, much worse polls for Team Red.

Elections are millions of miles away from now.

Think about how much time was left on the clock with Kavanaugh to negate meaningful influence on the election.  It was like a month. 

Team Red has plenty of time to recover. 

Edited January 23, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,797]

13 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

We already know neither bill is getting 60 votes. How much longer until Mitch can’t keep Rs in caucus? Guys up for 2020 re-election should start to worry. For example, Do Texans really want a wall and government to seize private land at the expense of wrecking the economy and screwing federal law enforcement? 

Texas will disappoint in 2020 just like it did with Teddddd

[Js1 85,527]

18 minutes ago, relapse98 said:

Yeah. It's a mistake to say that they are going out on time, when you are depending on people who are not currently receiving a paycheck to perform work. You can bet I'd probably be a little slow doing my work if I was there, but not getting my paycheck at the expected time.

"Can't wait to go to work tomorrow, for free, and issue thousands of dollars in refund money to other people while I'm unpaid!" - IRS workers

[Biff Tannen 45,712]

25 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Americans are going to find out whether their Senators care about them or appeasing Donnie. 

[atomheartbevo 89,777]

6 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

Newsflash: The people supporting the shutdown don't receive "refunds"

70-80% of American taxpayers get a refund.   We can joke that the 20%-30% not getting them are Trump supporters, but even just a cursory glance at Trump’s base shows most of them probably get refunds. 

[atomheartbevo 89,777]

24 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

They will be disappointed.  

This is Kavanaugh on steroids 

If the IRS stuff gains traction, and if airports shut down, you will see them bail on Donnie.  

And we aren’t even into food stamp territory.