2023 Republican Government Shutdown: Same Shit, Same Story

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5 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

A family member who for years underreported his income so his five kids could eat government-subsidized school lunches, is now posting on Facebook that we need a wall to keep all those illegals from coming here to leech off welfare.  

Smdh.

Yeah, I know a dude that reported the income from his hobby job instead of his day job so he could live in a subsidized low income unit in a downtown loft. 5 years later and he's irate at all the socialists trying to make hard workers pay for leeches

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5 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

No one will remember this 21 months from now.

Democrats will be sure to remind them.  

[Party_Taco 3890]

Yeah, I know a dude that reported the income from his hobby job instead of his day job so he could live in a subsidized low income unit in a downtown loft. 5 years later and he's irate at all the socialists trying to make hard workers pay for leeches

The modern Republican is formed around hypocrisy- They don’t know anything else.

[bolverk 30325]

I know this isn't news to most of us, but it remains critical to post the truth to counter any idiotic insistence on a 2,000-mile-long wall.

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For Seventh Consecutive Year Visa Overstays Exceeded Illegal Border Crossings

As the Trump administration demands funding for a border wall to stop illegal immigration, a new study finds that for the seventh consecutive year, visa overstays far exceeded unauthorized border crossings.

The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, visa overstayers accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegally.

"It is clear from our research that persons who overstay their visas add to the US undocumented population at a higher rate than border crossers. This is not a blip, but a trend which has become the norm," said Donald Kerwin, CMS's executive director in a statement. "As these numbers indicate, construction of hundreds of more miles of border wall would not address the challenge of irregular migration into our country, far from it."

The study also finds that the undocumented population from Mexico fell by almost 400,000 people in 2017 and that since 2010 the number of undocumented from that country fell by 1.3 million.

"We have made tremendous progress since the year 2000 in reducing undocumented immigration into this country," the study's author, CMS senior fellow Robert Warren, told NPR.

Warren was the Director of Statistics at the Immigration and Naturalization Service from 1986 to 1995. He said that both the Bush and Obama administrations had roughly doubled the size of the Border Patrol and the country has seen results.

"In another era, we would be celebrating our success," said Warren.

The study also finds that in 2017, for the first time, the unauthorized population from Mexico constituted less than one-half of all the undocumented people in the U.S.

At the same time, Mexico was the leading country for visa overstays in 2016, "about twice the number from India, China and Venezuela," according to the study. The number of undocumented people coming from Venezuela, which is wracked by political and economic turmoil, increased from 60,000 in 2013 to 145,000 in 2017. Virtually all are visa overstays.

"Since more than one half of all US undocumented residents arrive by air, visa-issuing posts have become the real frontline deterrent to undocumented migration," the study concludes. "This report suggests that more attention and resources should be given to that crucial mission of the US Department of State."

 

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

That Twitter exchange between Schatz, Murphy, and Schumer about retweeting Cardi B is peak America 2019.

[Nivek 17415]

Democrats will be sure to remind them.  

Democrats attack campaigns are lukewarm at best. Beto ran a campaign how a campaign should be run in an ideal world. Ted Cruz’s ran a campaign to win. Going negative, making fun of his dick, ugly wife is modern political campaigning.

If I were campaigning against Cronyn I would have him on an ang Lee gay cowboy commercials. I would poke fun of his fake ranch, pressed jeans, polished saddle, waxed old truck and show how he really lives. I would let him know that I hear rumors that he is a Mexican donkey fluffer.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Too late to edit this in my earlier post.

This is just aces.



The Cardi B video in question -

[deech 2391]

1 hour ago, Mole said:

Lifting sanctions while essentially continuing to impose sanctions on your own country. People can disagree about policy, even about really big and passionate things, but it’s hard to see this as anything other than actively working against the interests of the United States in support of a foreign interest.

Appropriate username is appropriate. 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Was that video in English?

Edited January 17, 2019 by Loch Ness Monster

[Fudge Nuggets 19455]

nm.

Edited January 17, 2019 by Fudge Nuggets

[Doc Sam Beckett 5908]

8 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Was that video in English?

Whatever language it was, wood

[Pancho 46311]

Hmm, I wonder what they are afraid of?

 

[horn4life 3838]

Well just in case you wondered how grossly incompetent the Trump administration is they only missed the cost of the shutdown by half...  Apparently "only the best people" only counted the cost of the actual government workers not receiving checks, when they said the shutdown would cost the economy from .05 percentage points per week.  Now that they actually did a little freshmen economics research they included the cost of not paying government contractors.  So the updated number is .13 percentage points per week. only missed it by a factor of 2.6.  So whenever you hear a "Fact" from the Trump administration take it with a huge grain of salt. Because they are so often wrong, it's notjust that they lie about the truth> But sadly the Trump administration can't even figure out what the truth is. Incompetence at it's finest. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-admits-shutdown-costly-expected-214647682.html

The fact that this wall was not an urgent issue until the Dems were there to blame tells all.  Sadly most GOP leaders do not believe in the cost effectiveness of the wall.  But they are simply very willing to harm the American people, because a child in the Whitehouse threw a tantrum. No emergency, just poltical bullshit. But it's for me to overhear the stupid at assorted bars and restaurants actually believing the DEMS were the ones that shut the government down.  I don't have the heart to tell the idiots this isn't true,  becuase well... idiots are a hard group to inform...

 

[DDD Dad 14650]

Just received this email from Senator Starched Jeans:

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Dear DDD Dad:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the current operations of the federal government. I understand the importance of funding programs that support our national defense and protect our borders, and I appreciate having the benefit of your comments on this important matter.

A partial federal government shutdown creates further uncertainty and instability in the economy. I am eager to end the partialshutdown and move ahead with the fiscal and economic reforms our country so urgently needs.

In 2018, Congress enacted five appropriations bills that provide funding for 75 percent of the federal government agencies in Fiscal Year 2019, including the Departments of Defense, Energy, Labor, Health and Human Services, among others. However, on December 22, 2018, funding for certain federal agencies lapsed due to disagreements over funding levels for important border security priorities, resulting in a partial federal government shutdown.

I share the frustrations of many Texans, and I will continue to work with my colleagues on a path forward to end this partial shutdown. It is my hope that an agreement can be reached quickly to reopen the all federal agencies, while strengthening security at our nation’s borders.

I am honored to represent Texas in the United States Senate, and I will keep your views in mind as the appropriations process moves forward. Thank you for taking the time to contact me. 

Sincerely,

JOHN CORNYN

United States Senator

517 Hart Senate Office Building

Washington, DC 20510

Tel: (202) 224-2934

Fax: (202) 228-2856

http://www.cornyn.senate.gov

Please sign up for my monthly newsletter at http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/newsletter.

PLEASE NOTE:

Due to the nature of electronic communication, if you did not receive this e-mail directly from my office, I cannot guarantee that the text has not been altered. If you have questions about the validity of this message, or would like to respond to this message, please use the web form available at my website, http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/contact.

A lot of words saying basically nothing.

My response:

Senator Cornyn,

I'm not sure I understand your frustration.  You and the Republican Party are in the unique position to end this shutdown today, simply by bringing to a vote a host of bills submitted to the Senate by the House since the new Congress was seated.  Or, the majority of the Senate, undoubtedly joined by the entire Democratic members, could bring to a vote the same bill they approved by acclamation in December.

 

The only things preventing an immediate end to the shutdown is President Trump's stated unwillingness to sign any bill that does not include over $5B for additional wall funding, and your Senate Leader's refusal to bring any bill regarding reopening the government to a vote.  Democrats and Republicans agree that funding for border security is necessary and have agreed to that; they simply disagree to additional funding strictly for construction of a wall that would not be an effective means of increasing border security.

 

I urge you to cease writing platitudes regarding looking forward to resolutions while doing nothing to in fact resolve anything.  

 

The voters (I was one of yours) are watching.

 

 

['stache 22143]

I don't know 'stache, I guess I'm a hopeless optimist thinking that people are waking up as more new stuff comes to light.  I guess I just care too much. 
Or maybe I'm the mouth breathing simpleton for thinking there's more than a sliver of truth to the deluge of information that continues to pile up re: Trump/Russia/headed to hell in a hand basket.  I know I'm swimming upstream in the industry I work in and area I live in.

Russia? Fake news bro. Rigged witch hunt. Hannity ses so.

[Js1 87183]

4 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Just received this email from Senator Starched Jeans:

A lot of words saying basically nothing.

My response:

Senator Cornyn,

I'm not sure I understand your frustration.  You and the Republican Party are in the unique position to end this shutdown today, simply by bringing to a vote a host of bills submitted to the Senate by the House since the new Congress was seated.  Or, the majority of the Senate, undoubtedly joined by the entire Democratic members, could bring to a vote the same bill they approved by acclamation in December.

 

The only things preventing an immediate end to the shutdown is President Trump's stated unwillingness to sign any bill that does not include over $5B for additional wall funding, and your Senate Leader's refusal to bring any bill regarding reopening the government to a vote.  Democrats and Republicans agree that funding for border security is necessary and have agreed to that; they simply disagree to additional funding strictly for construction of a wall that would not be an effective means of increasing border security.

 

I urge you to cease writing platitudes regarding looking forward to resolutions while doing nothing to in fact resolve anything.  

 

The voters (I was one of yours) are watching.

 

 

The intern being paid in "experience" and "college credit" reading that thoroughly appreciated your arguments, I'm sure.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

12 minutes ago, horn4life said:

I don't have the heart to tell the idiots this isn't true,  becuase well... idiots are a hard group to inform...

This is our concern dude.

[DDD Dad 14650]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The intern being paid in "experience" and "college credit" reading that thoroughly appreciated your arguments, I'm sure.

No kidding.  Hey, I assume (and fully expect) that, but at least it's forcing someone to read it.  If 10,000 other voters wrote similar notes eventually someone might bring it to his attention.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Hey look, there’ ya boys Cornyn and Cruz’s picture on Russia’s State TV.

 

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[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[Irwin F Fletcher 3555]

11 minutes ago, retread said:

 

"Here's a story of an Orange man and his cronies.........something, something, and that's the way they became the Russian Bunch"

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3873]

30 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Hey look, there’ ya boys Cornyn and Cruz’s picture on Russia’s State TV.

 

The familiarity with our government is really amazing.  I can only name one person in Russia’s government.  They are talking specific policy positions of specific senators.   

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

9 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

The familiarity with our government is really amazing.  I can only name one person in Russia’s government.  They are talking specific policy positions of specific senators.   

I imagine if the Soviet Union won the Cold War in 1989 and we were currently running a Trump operation on the massive USSR, we’d be all up in their shit on our domestic cable news. 

Americans have a really hard time empathizing with the Russians’ hatred for the United States.  They’ve been blaming us for all their problems for 20+ years.

Edited January 17, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[retread 2951]

16 minutes ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

"Here's a story of an Orange man and his cronies.........something, something, and that's the way they became the Russian Bunch"

[Biff Tannen 46166]

31 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Will be interesting to cross reference those 53 dissenters with the Rs who get caught up in the Mueller probe.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I wonder how Devin Nunes, Gaetz, and Gym Jordan voted?

[Pig Bellmont 8886]

 

[Jack Straw 2955]

16 hours ago, Party_Taco said:

The modern Republican is formed around hypocrisy- They don’t know anything else.

Hypocrisy, fear, and the enjoyment of the pain and suffering of others.  

[Brisketexan 106899]

3 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

That's a long way to say "it's clear that the GOP is a conspiracy aligned against the United States."

[Brisketexan 106899]

Just now, Jack Straw said:

Hypocrisy, fear, and the enjoyment of the pain and suffering of others.  

"He's hurting the wrong people!"

[Rimbo 27021]

9 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

Not a sobering reflection of "the times," but a sobering reflection of the GOP, a party I once supported.

[Rimbo 27021]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

That's a long way to say "it's clear that the GOP is a conspiracy aligned against the United States."

To be fair, NYTimes had an article about a Texas Congressman who has stood rigidly against Trump's wall because, get this, he (1) actually is from a border town and knows the wall is a stupid way to ensure border security, and (2) considers his constituents his "boss" and not the GOP leadership.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/us/politics/will-hurd-border-wall-trump.html

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3 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

To be fair, NYTimes had an article about a Texas Congressman who has stood rigidly against Trump's wall because, get this, he (1) actually is from a border town and knows the wall is a stupid way to ensure border security, and (2) considers his constituents his "boss" and not the GOP leadership.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/us/politics/will-hurd-border-wall-trump.html

"Yeah, but he's a RINO"

[Brisketexan 106899]

2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

To be fair, NYTimes had an article about a Texas Congressman who has stood rigidly against Trump's wall because, get this, he (1) actually is from a border town and knows the wall is a stupid way to ensure border security, and (2) considers his constituents his "boss" and not the GOP leadership.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/us/politics/will-hurd-border-wall-trump.html

And see what the GOP base has to say about him. "RINO" is about the NICEST thing they say.  There's no place in the party for men like Hurd.  Here's just a sample from his page:

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Eric Bateman Will, You came to my front door and spoke to you personally. I voted for you. I will not vote for you again if you stay on the wrong side of the Wall issue. God bless.Michael Grossman. Greg Allen

 

Greg Allen Eric Bateman DO YOUR DAMN JOB AND VOTE FOR THE DAMN WALL!!

 

Jason Lavallee You are a disgrace to the nation and clearly the domestic enemy the oath warns of. RINO scum literally fighting to allow foreign invaders in to help you destroy. Shameful.

There's no saving the GOP.  There's no saving its supporters.  There is only opposing and defeating them.  Completely, totally, in every way, at every turn, at all times.  Calls for compromise are folly at best, treachery at worst.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

The irony is Trump is by far the biggest RINO of all time.

[Mole 4339]

1 hour ago, retread said:

 

This Brady Bunch reboot sucks.

[Rimbo 27021]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The irony is Trump is by far the biggest RINO of all time.

Exactly. The GOP, as a party, completely flip-flopped on MAJOR issues in order to support Trump. They abandoned their foreign policy platform, their economic platform, and total abandonment of Family Values and Christian Values.

[Js1 87183]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Americans have a really hard time empathizing with the Russians’ hatred for the United States.  They’ve been blaming us for all their problems for 20+ years.

Yep, can't imagine someone blaming someone else for their problems for 20+ years.

[Bama Chick 28596]

lol Even Russian TV knows Mitt can write all the concerned articles he wants and take shots at Trump’s character but he’s still complicit with Trump’s bullshittery with his votes.

Makes me madder at him then the other toads on that graphic.

At least those dead eyed motherfuckers ain’t hiding their intentions.

[Biff Tannen 46166]

Serious question:  how can the government ORDER people to come back to work without pay?  And why would they respond?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Unlimited Big Macs and pizza

[David Dennison 19542]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I imagine if the Soviet Union won the Cold War in 1989 and we were currently running a Trump operation on the massive USSR, we’d be all up in their shit on our domestic cable news. 

Americans have a really hard time empathizing with the Russians’ hatred for the United States.  They’ve been blaming us for all their problems for 20+ years.

We did drop the ball after the Soviet Union collapsed. We thought it would be more fun to chest thump and rub their noses in it than to actually spend the resources necessary to align Russia with the west.

[High Plains Drifter 11189]

56 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

To be fair, NYTimes had an article about a Texas Congressman who has stood rigidly against Trump's wall because, get this, he (1) actually is from a border town and knows the wall is a stupid way to ensure border security, and (2) considers his constituents his "boss" and not the GOP leadership.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/us/politics/will-hurd-border-wall-trump.html

 

Can we please stop sucking Will Heard's dick so much?

Yeah, he's against the wall. Give the man a cookie. Whoop de fucking do. He was also for more roads in Big Bend National Park, despite that fact that Border Patrol and the Park Service Rangers said that more roads in Big Bend would be useless for border protection, and an environmental disaster.

What has he said about collusion? What has he said about the orange piece of shit? What is his voting record? How did he vote on the tax cut? What are his views on immigration in general? How furrowed was his brow on separating kids from parents at the border?

He would put you people in a camp if he could.

 

He is not, as his staff readily acknowledges, inclined to broadcast his perspective or obsessively rope in votes for his cause. He has not sought opportunities to directly lobby the president to endorse the technological barriers he has envisioned. (Mr. Hurd noted that the “key players” are all cognizant of his position.)

 

Fuck Will Heard.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

We did drop the ball after the Soviet Union collapsed. We thought it would be more fun to chest thump and rub their noses in it than to actually spend the resources necessary to align Russia with the west.

The Russians were never going to change but we should have done more to secure their democracy from a thug like Putin. 

[CO Horn 172]

Abraham Aderholt Allen Amash Amodei Babin Biggs Brady Brooks (AL) Byrne Carter (GA) Cole Collins (NY) Comer Davidson (OH) DesJarlais Duncan Dunn

Estes Fleischmann Fortenberry Gosar Graves (GA) Grothman Harris Hern, Kevin Higgins (LA) Hollingsworth Hunter Joyce (PA) Kelly (MS) King (IA) Kustoff (TN) Lesko Marshall McClintock

Miller Mooney (WV) Mullin Norman Pence Posey Roe, David P. Rogers (AL) Rose, John W. Rutherford Smith (MO) Steube Thompson (PA) Weber (TX) Woodall Yoho Young

Here's who voted no on the resolution

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I see the indicted congressmen are on this list.

[JimmyJames 12271]

35 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The Russians were never going to change but we should have done more to secure their democracy from a thug like Putin. 

While in a general sense I agree what do you think we should have done that we didn’t? It’s pretty hard to change centuries of culture. 

[Fozzz 152]

that is relatable af

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

7 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

While in a general sense I agree what do you think we should have done that we didn’t? It’s pretty hard to change centuries of culture. 

I don’t know.  Something went wrong in the Clinton years with Borris Yeltsin to allow a guy like Putin to rise to power.  We dropped the ball in those years. 

Hindsight is 20/20 and anything we might have done would have likely been undermined eventually. 

Fucking Russians