2023 Republican Government Shutdown: Same Shit, Same Story

[GSU&UT 1798]

Yeah no permanent DACA, no deal. Come back with a bill for national automatic voter registration, repeal of any voter ID laws, end to gerrymandering etc.

[Horn Dog 9644]

17 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

This.  Or 10 year extensions on both for 2.5 million.  When Dems come to power, they can just make it permanent within that time period.  

 

15yr extension on DACA and Bridge.  6 billion total for wall... BUT spread over same 15yrs. The orange moron will just see 6 billion and declare victory.

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

From what I understand it's a 3 year extension on them....

 

Does that include a path to citizenship for Dreamers or is he just promising not to deport them for a while longer?

[mdmost 42777]

Kicking the can down the road since the Supreme Court won't take up his DACA appeal. Again, another immigration crisis of his creation. 

Edited January 19, 2019 by mdmost

[David Dennison 18608]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

From what I understand it's a 3 year extension on them....

 

It won't get 60 votes in the Senate.

[Gatorubet 30064]

7 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Does that include a path to citizenship for Dreamers or is he just promising not to deport them for a while longer?

I believe the latter.  Coulter and Rush would skewer him if he let more brown people become Dem voter citizens.  Plus, MS-13 rapists  with leprosy.

Edited January 19, 2019 by Gatorubet

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Make Mitch pass it in the Senate first.

[David Dennison 18608]

3 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I believe the latter.  Coulter and Rush would skewer him if he let more brown people become Dem voter citizens.  Plus, MS-13 rapists  with leprosy.

Full path to citizenship for Dreamers is the only thing Democrats should accept for wall money. DREAM Act for wall. No DREAM Act, no wall.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

Democrats shouldn’t negotiate with Trump.  

Mitch needs to pass a CR, Nancy needs to pass a CR.

Put it on dotard’s desk.

[mdmost 42777]

I tend to agree but there's a point where not being open to negotiating is going to blow back on the Democrats. I agree with David, full path to citizenship for the Dreamers is what you come back on and spell out why this is important. Don't give him what he wants without exacting some pain from him with this base. 

[Jack Straw 2953]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Yeah no kidding. Little Nazis like Stephen Miller can't like this.

Pelosi should respond with an offer of make DACA permanent and less wall money.

Offer of make DACA permanent and NO wall money, plus non-wall border security money, contingent on the release of Trump’s tax returns first.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

[horncyclist 1384]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Yeah, but she hadn't hear Dotard tell us about coyotes, drugs, crime and raping. 200 miles of wall and its' done. 

[horncyclist 1384]

"this is  a common sense compromise...[that I just told you about.]" This is terrible. 

[retread 2951]

Rs negotiating amongst themselves without including the D leadership .. to own the libtards. #artofthedeal

[SimonBolivar 10898]

3 years? I thought it was going to be 10.

[Hornius Emeritus 12403]

George W. Bush trolling Trump by delivering pizzas to his secret service protection, who are currently going unpaid. 


http://fortune.com/2019/01/19/bush-government-shutdown-pizza/

Edited January 19, 2019 by Hornius Emeritus

[horncyclist 1384]

Pelosi should tell him to go fuck himself and open the government. Dems are winning. This isn't going to move things an inch. 

[SimonBolivar 10898]

Wait why are we making a down payment? I thought Mexico was paying for it.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

[horncyclist 1384]

8 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

"bipartisan steps." Like shutting down the government for a month, holding dedicated public servants' salaries, critical services, and perhaps the entire economy hostage to get your pet policy project without any comparative analysis of alternatives? Okay. What a joke. This is amateur hour. 

[retread 2951]

It's hard to think of three bigger bitches than McC, Kush, and Pence huddling in the Capitol trying to come up with a plan. The only bigger one would be the orange pustule drinking Diet Cokes in the WH.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20342]

Let's see how big of an emergency this really is: Dems should offer him 10 billion for the wall in exchange for making his tax returns public.

[retread 2951]

 

[heso 2748]

8 minutes ago, retread said:

It's hard to think of three bigger bitches than McC, Kush, and Pence huddling in the Capitol trying to come up with a plan. The only bigger one would be the orange pustule drinking Diet Cokes in the WH.

“What can dotus publicly offer to make it look like this is the dems fault if they reject the offer?”

[tchookem 3900]

What do you mean you don't want this shit sandwich? How can anyone turn down a shit sandwich from the President? The Clemson players loved when I offered them shit sandwiches.

[Brisketexan 104465]

So, I've been busy doing things other than listening to a barely functioning narcissist retard spout bullshit.  What is his proposal, exactly?

[HenryJames 65868]

Here is what Trump proposed:

• $800 million in humanitarian assistance
• $805 million for drug detection technology to secure ports of entry
• Funds to hire 2,750 new border agents and law enforcement professionals at the border
• 75 new immigrations judge teams to reduce backlog of 900,000 cases
• And, of course, $5.7 billion for “strategic deployment of physical barriers” aka “the wall”
• Three years of legislative relief for 700,000 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients
• A three-year extension of relief for Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders

[retread 2951]

Edited January 19, 2019 by retread

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20342]

2 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Here is what Trump proposed:

• $800 million in humanitarian assistance
• $805 million for drug detection technology to secure ports of entry
• Funds to hire 2,750 new border agents and law enforcement professionals at the border
• 75 new immigrations judge teams to reduce backlog of 900,000 cases
• And, of course, $5.7 billion for “strategic deployment of physical barriers” aka “the wall”
• Three years of legislative relief for 700,000 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients
• A three-year extension of relief for Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders

 

 

Did the President say how he intends to pay for all of this or will we just borrow more money from the Chinese and future generations of taxpayers?

[Brisketexan 104465]

3 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Here is what Trump proposed:

• $800 million in humanitarian assistance
• $805 million for drug detection technology to secure ports of entry
• Funds to hire 2,750 new border agents and law enforcement professionals at the border
• 75 new immigrations judge teams to reduce backlog of 900,000 cases
• And, of course, $5.7 billion for “strategic deployment of physical barriers” aka “the wall”
• Three years of legislative relief for 700,000 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients
• A three-year extension of relief for Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders

So...he offered pretty much dick.  Looks a lot like his sumptuous spread for Clemson.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

I’m tired of winning 

[Radical Larry 28523]

Here's my counteroffer: 

 

 

[retread 2951]

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

 

[horncyclist 1384]

 

I do not think this is going to go over how Trump and co wanted. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

[retread 2951]

Funds disaster relief == another slush fund for Cheeto's wish lists

Edited January 19, 2019 by retread

[Stunns38 3357]

Of course Trump knew the Dems wouldn’t accept this and his obvious intent was to try to deflect some of the blame back to them.

[mdmost 42777]

What's funny is most of that money and terms of the deal is to fix shit he's specifically broken like the border, DACA, and immigration. So yeah give that asshole money for things he broke. Swell idea. 

[Brisketexan 104465]

27 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

 

1 - Kasparov is dead-on, balls accurate.

2 - Pelosi knows that same truth.

 

[SaucyJack 3485]

40 minutes ago, retread said:

When I was 15, this was the best damn movie I ever saw./csb

Also, did not realize I had developed  all the mental capacity needed to be POTUS in 2016.

Edited January 19, 2019 by SaucyJack

[retread 2951]

16 minutes ago, mdmost said:

What's funny is most of that money and terms of the deal is to fix shit he's specifically broken like the border, DACA, and immigration. So yeah give that asshole money for things he broke. Swell idea. 

9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

1 - Kasparov is dead-on, balls accurate.

2 - Pelosi knows that same truth.

Pretty sobering every time we have a day like this. Realizing for the umpteenth time that most of the Rs in DC couldn't give less of a shit about American citizens.

Edited January 19, 2019 by retread

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

Isn’t DACA an executive order? Who cares what the length of the deal is to the extent it extends beyond Trump, right?

[HenryJames 65868]

Art of the deal.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

Edited January 20, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

 

[retread 2951]

I'm sure the federal workers and contractors are adjusting - Cheeto

Meanwhile his golfing buddy....

 

Edited January 20, 2019 by retread

[JimmyJames 12271]

Someone needs to explain to trump and Benedict Mitch that the US does not negotiate with terrorists, even if the terrorist happens to be the current US president/Russian asset. 

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

4 hours ago, retread said:

It's hard to think of three bigger bitches than McC, Kush, and Pence huddling in the Capitol trying to come up with a plan. The only bigger one would be the orange pustule drinking Diet Cokes in the WH.

Did they even bother to consult Rush Limbaugh and Ann  Coulter first to make sure they approved of the offer