Don't Call This Transgender a 'Sir'

[Kyle 207]

Before the fake controversy this year, my wife and I used to chuckle about how dirty "Baby, It's Cold Outside" was for the 1940s. Off topic since likely only one pecker in that song. We all need to ratchet down our snowflake meters and learn to have a sense of humor. We move the goalposts and then hold people accountable for playing under the old rules.

[troph 24781]

For you young pups, more about Matthew Shepard.WARNING>

Thanks for the correction. Let the name calling continue !!

[Jerry Callo 8698]

1 hour ago, M12BH said:

OK here's how old I am.  I remember the original and didn't even know there was an edited version.  When the song first came out there was no sense that Mark Knopfler was being homophobic.  He was describing a hypothetical conversation between two dumb, uneducated, stoned, probably homophobic, furniture movers bitching about how hard they had to work for their money while the "faggots" making music videos had it so easy.  Wah.  But yeah I can see how that wouldn't fly today.

From what I've read, Knopfler apparently wrote the song on a piece of paper while visiting an electronics/appliance store.  Two movers were standing together watching MTV on the wall of TVs.  He wrote down a few of the phrases he heard them say (the faggot line wasn't one of them).  Knopfler obviously related more to the people on the TV than the appliance movers and deduced what they must have been thinking while watching.  While there were guys wearing earrings in the 80's, it wasn't as common as today and which ear was code for gay or straight (few men wore earrings in both ears).  With that context, the song doesn't make me think Knopler was homophobic - just writing about how he perceived others and homophobia was much more prevalent and acceptable then,, so he might not have been far off.    

[immortal13 4059]

4 hours ago, futureman said:

the song was from the mid 80s, dude. 

Yeah back then we just called them crossdressers

[Underdog 28560]

Or Uncle Bob. 

[Jerry Callo 8698]

2 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Or Uncle Aunt Bob. 

FIFY

[Underdog 28560]

Or Aunt Roberta switched to Uncle Bob. 

[El Diablo 4232]

Reminds me, way back in the day the ex and I were talking about the gays and I told her gay was nothing new, hell, Plato was gay. Her response - "Mickey's dog??"

[Guest Lobo]

Sir?  Sir?  Do you see anything below my waist indicating an officer?  I work for a living goddammit.  

[davidg 4036]

1 hour ago, El Diablo said:

Reminds me, way back in the day the ex and I were talking about the gays and I told her gay was nothing new, hell, Plato was gay. Her response - "Mickey's dog??"

Wrong thread.  Would be a winner in the correct one.

[El Diablo 4232]

32 minutes ago, davidg said:

Wrong thread.  Would be a winner in the correct one.

When I corrected her she turned into a dick. Better?

[Jkwellborn 6688]

When I corrected her she turned into a dick. Better?

Did she try to show it to you?

[Homesickhorn 2202]

Sir?  Sir?  Do you see anything below my waist indicating an officer?  I work for a living goddammit.  

Do you what three up three down means?

The end of an inning?

[SHOOTER12 8800]

12 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

Did she try to show it to you?

Show it to him?  Hell she tried to use it on him....