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I truly believe the only thing keeping Donald Trump from actually ordering a preemptive attack on the caravan is the will of the American people. If the majority wanted it, he would be fine with shooting down these migrants or throwing them in prison for life. This is the problem when the most powerful man in the world has no belief system outside of his own well-being, which extends to the entire GOP as well.

He's not Hitler, thank god. But whatever is left of American values is the only thing keeping him from doing more harm.  We are already so broken that Republicans either turn a blind eye or don't care about the family separations. His voter base has given him permission to get away with that. There would be many more atrocities if it would help him or the GOP stay in power. 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Suck it, assholes.  Treason, bribery, graft, one humanitarian crisis after another is ok but fuck off with a $5,000 tax bill.  Nice to see the trumptards have such a low price on the demise of America.  They can all get fucked right in the ass.

What is even better is that tax "cut" won't ever be rescinded until Dems have a veto proof majority in both houses, or control both houses and the WH. Even then, chances are iffy at best.

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

It's peak selfishness/individualism.  It doesn't matter if the rest of the country or world burns around them, and every other human in those places suffers.  So long as at the end of the day, they can say "I got mine," then.....WINNING!  Trump is truly the perfect president for these people, in this time.  We are the Completely Independent States of Selfish Narcissists now, and Trump was destined to be our president. 

There is zero concept of the common good, residing in a greater community, emotional empathy, or even logical processing of the truth that economically, "we all do better when we all do better."  Nope.  There's just "I got mine."  Full stop.  Pure Trump.

Pure capitalism as well.  Civics needs to be required in school again.  

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Just in case any of you morons are going to counter Trumps never ending stupidity with your own but Trump turned around the economy, unemployment or any other figure relating to US jobs and job growth!  If your historical perspective is so very short, or if you only get your news from Fox and actually believe the words coming out of the mouths of The Five, Hannity or other non-fact spreaders, here is a GREAT link for you.

graph of historical employment charts Feb 2019

There are too many charts to put up here, but the fact of the matter is the "Trump Economy" simply seems to be a continuation of the "Obama Economy."  No spikes or major turns, just simply building upon what was existing.  Of course we did get to blow a monster whole in the budget with massive additions to the debt in a time of relative plenty by the GOP/Trump, but the justification of the economy for the endless stupidity of this President is simply to ignore what he inherited, and you also need the inability to understand simple graphs.

that is all....

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18 minutes ago, horn4life said:

Just in case any of you morons are going to counter Trumps never ending stupidity with your own but Trump turned around the economy, unemployment or any other figure relating to US jobs and job growth!  If your historical perspective is so very short, or if you only get your news from Fox and actually believe the words coming out of the mouths of The Five, Hannity or other non-fact spreaders, here is a GREAT link for you.

graph of historical employment charts Feb 2019

There are too many charts to put up here, but the fact of the matter is the "Trump Economy" simply seems to be a continuation of the "Obama Economy."  No spikes or major turns, just simply building upon what was existing.  Of course we did get to blow a monster whole in the budget with massive additions to the debt in a time of relative plenty by the GOP/Trump, but the justification of the economy for the endless stupidity of this President is simply to ignore what he inherited, and you also need the inability to understand simple graphs.

that is all....

Trump is a guy standing on top of a mountain yelling "look how high I climbed!" when 1) he was dropped off by a chopper 500 feet below the summit, and 2) while he's gloating, he's carelessly standing on a shaky ice shelf with a LONG fall down when it goes.  And the only response is "but look -- he's at the TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN!"  Fuck that.  He didn't do shit to get there, and he's making the ground he's standing on even shakier.

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I think it was in the 80s when someone noted that the trend of Americans being encouraged to think of themselves as taxpayers rather than citizens was having a deleterious effect on the country.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this so explains the GOP's "only people with skin in the game should have a say" bullshit.

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5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this so explains the GOP's "only people with skin in the game should have a say" bullshit.

When Paul Pryor had a popular Austin radio show back in the 90s, he regularly denigrated "people who pay rent" as unimportant voices because they didn't pay property taxes. He said it over and over.

In my aging old pick-up truck, I'd just shake my head. He could rely on his audience not to consider that the landlord pays property tax from rent revenue. A simple two step piece of deduction.

Idiot World.

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Unbroken record for perfcetion.
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48 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

What is even better is that tax "cut" won't ever be rescinded until Dems have a veto proof majority in both houses, or control both houses and the WH. Even then, chances are iffy at best.

I guess what kills me is whenever America proposes to raise taxes on the richest 1%, the screams of “SOCIALISM!!!” from the right are deafening.  

A few comments about that:

- increasingly, it’s the 1% who have all the money... so any hope of fiscal responsibility has to squeeze more out of the group that **has** wildly more compared to the 1% of 30 years ago

- usually we’re talking about just getting tax rates back to what they were 20 years ago.  Were we socialists in the 1990’s?   And if not, why is it socialist to go back to 1990’s rates?

- the people screaming the loudest to protect the 1% ... mostly middle class and poor whites... those people have almost zero chance of becoming a CEO, paying off Congress via legalized bribery (lobbyists), and privatizing vast fortunes. 

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5 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

When Paul Pryor had a popular Austin radio show back in the 90s, he regularly denigrated "people who pay rent" as unimportant voices because they didn't pay property taxes. He said it over and over.

In my aging old pick-up truck, I'd just shake my head. He could rely on his audience not to consider that the landlord pays property tax from rent revenue. A simple two step piece of deduction.

Idiot World.

There are people now, in 2019, on this fucking message board, who say illegals don't pay ANY taxes.  They have apartments (property tax).  They shop at stores (sales tax). 

Mind boggling.

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

There are people now, in 2019, on this fucking message board, who say illegals don't pay ANY taxes.  They have apartments (property tax).  They shop at stores (sales tax). 

Mind boggling.

Many of them set up tax payer IDs so they can pay federal income taxes as well.

https://money.cnn.com/2017/04/19/news/economy/undocumented-immigrant-taxes/index.html

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1 hour ago, High Plains Drifter said:

What is even better is that tax "cut" won't ever be rescinded until Dems have a veto proof majority in both houses, or control both houses and the WH. Even then, chances are iffy at best.

But as difficult and far off as that sounds, it's policies like this that will shorten that expanse much quicker. 

 

46 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Trump is a guy standing on top of a mountain yelling "look how high I climbed!" when 1) he was dropped off by a chopper 500 feet below the summit, and 2) while he's gloating, he's carelessly standing on a shaky ice shelf with a LONG fall down when it goes.  And the only response is "but look -- he's at the TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN!"  Fuck that.  He didn't do shit to get there, and he's making the ground he's standing on even shakier.

Except we're all on that ledge with many more directly beneath it. 

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1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Suck it, assholes.  Treason, bribery, graft, one humanitarian crisis after another is ok but fuck off with a $5,000 tax bill.  Nice to see the trumptards have such a low price on the demise of America.  They can all get fucked right in the ass.

Pos rep for the use of the term "trumptard".

They truly are retards for trump.

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What's crazy is after all this lying and gaslighting of America, nearly all of these characters will be forgiven by the country, write books for millions of dollars, and take positions as analyst on cable news or The View. 

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1 minute ago, Bruh Man said:

What's crazy is after all this lying and gaslighting of America, nearly all of these characters will be forgiven by the country, write books for millions of dollars, and take positions as analyst on cable news or The View. 

The first part is their fault.  The last part is our fault.

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2 hours ago, horncyclist said:

It's really their own fault for not making more money. Bunch of poors. 

I'm a little nervous to do my own. Not sure what he net effect will be between rate changes, cap on SALT deductions and expanded child tax credit. I think we'll do a little better but who knows. 

We have upper middle class income, SALT deductions above the cap and 3 child tax credits.  Our taxes went up.

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2 hours ago, Red Five said:

So he’s going to be preaching unity tonight, and talking shit on Twitter this morning.

My three year old grandson is so happy and proud when he pees in the commode...then goes into his room and shits in his pants.  Three year olds do that kind of shit!

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1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Feds capture almost half a billion dollars worth of cocaine ... 35,000 pounds.  Guess what route the wannabe smugglers took?  Was it a route that might be impacted by a wall?

https://www.ksat.com/live/live-coast-guard-offloads-34780-pounds-of-cocaine-worth-estimated-466-million
 

“We need a border Kraken!  People say Krakens are a medieval solution, but wheels are older than Krakens and nothing works better than a wheel at intercepting drug boats... except a Kraken.  RELEASE THE KRAKEN!  RELEASE THE KRAKEN!”

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27 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Just wait until Mueller indicts:

-L0ok, Donald Trump Jr.'s collusion with Russia has nothing to do with President Trump.

-L0ok, Jared Kushner's back channels to the Saudis to direct Trump's foreign policy prior to inauguration has nothing to do with President Trump.

 

 

 

-L0ok,  Donald Trump being dragged out of the WH Residence in cuffs at 6am for treason, obstruction of justice, collusion with Russia and violating the Emoluments Clause has nothing to do with President Trump!

Holy shit, LOok has me rolling

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1 hour ago, Js1 said:

There are people now, in 2019, on this fucking message board, who say illegals don't pay ANY taxes.  They have apartments (property tax).  They shop at stores (sales tax). 

Mind boggling.

...and if their employers set them up with tax id #s, they also pay federal and FICA...without the hope of ever collecting on it.

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7 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Now I'm curious what our taxes are going to look like.  Still waiting to get one of my wife's 1099 forms before I can do them.

Single Income No Kids. Upper middle class income. I paid about 20 dollars less this year. Not enough for my Costco membership unfortunately. 

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With apologies to Pink Floyd, all in all, it’s all just a speech about the Wall. The Wall uber Alles Make America White Again crowd is freaked out by last week’s loss, and they’ve been crawling the walls like Ann Coulter on too many diet pills. Since his ignominious defeat last week at the hands of La Pelosi, they’ve been praying for a national emergency declaration so the president can deploy the military for a domestic law enforcement operation … you know, the kind of extraconstitutional statist action conservatives just love.

Your Guide to Tonight's Trumpian Word Vomit

Rick Wilson strikes again 

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6 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

With apologies to Pink Floyd, all in all, it’s all just a speech about the Wall. The Wall uber Alles Make America White Again crowd is freaked out by last week’s loss, and they’ve been crawling the walls like Ann Coulter on too many diet pills. Since his ignominious defeat last week at the hands of La Pelosi, they’ve been praying for a national emergency declaration so the president can deploy the military for a domestic law enforcement operation … you know, the kind of extraconstitutional statist action conservatives just love.

Your Guide to Tonight's Trumpian Word Vomit

Rick Wilson strikes again 

he is a goddamned national treasure:

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The conspiracy demo of QAnon lunatics isn’t happy that the promised arrests and prosecutions of 60,000 enemies of the state seem to recede ever toward the infinite horizon of fuck-all never. They need stoking, so expect some god-damned numerological signal to them he’s still in the fight against the reptilian child killer cult of Chappaqua.

i mean, you should read the whole thing, but that passage is breath-taking.

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