Donald Trump 2019

[retread 2951]

5 minutes ago, RPM said:

At least Jed had some common sense. It's like we elected Jethro.

Ivanka is no Elly May.

[staboner 4969]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

There is no left wing version of Fox News and their competition isn’t moving towards that.

just stopping by to say no, this is not right man. MSNBC and CNN are both very slanted to the 'left'. not as much as Fox is, but thats not really important. Follows the general political culture of America right now really. Its a pooh off and people are still satisfied arguing that their pooh smells less stinky than someone else's. everywhere.

happy Friday homeboys. I am in the future now. I know Thursday doesn't have any nukes, so sleep tight friends

[RomaVicta 29902]

It's Opposite Beverly Hills where the rapacious Drydales have moved into a community of nice people and immediately commence to lying to them and stealing from them while bringing an infestation of rats and alligators.

The Clampetts was good folks.

[RomaVicta 29902]

18 minutes ago, staboner said:

MSNBC and CNN are both very slanted to the 'left'

FOX isn't slanted to the right. It is the media outlet for whatever GOP is in office or the constant adversary of any Dem that is in office. FOX has a policy of distortion and lying and have hired known liars (Oliver North) to put on the air. 

It's not a matter of degree of difference in what is bad about these news stations. It's a matter of species difference.

FOX apologists (I don't label you one) compare CNN's failures to meet a standard of objectivity with FOX's not even having such a standard. 

Cable TV news is an intolerable shit show to me. CNN follows the lead of the print media in finding a story and then beats it to death with panel after panel of experts and pundits. CNN is more of a clearing house than a news organization.

MSNBC is an answer to the rabid right that has now seized the GOP. It's largely opinion and doesn't try to hide that fact. They have embraced a slant, but it's honestly done. Again, show after show about the same story makes it only watchable when I know almost nothing about the leading story of the day. Maddow is invaluable for bringing a person up to speed. If you're already up to speed, it's a maddening slog.

FOX fatuously claims: We report, you decide. I'll repeat something I wrote years ago on Hornfans. Their motto should be We report, you ignite. They're not remotely concerned with meeting any standard for anything except keeping hold of the angry right wing viewers that make them tons of money. 

 

Edited February 28, 2019 by RomaVicta

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On 2/27/2019 at 1:43 PM, happyfunball said:

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

I wish there was a full blown left version of Fox News so all the fake MSM critics’ heads would simultaneously explode.

[yoladu 4090]

On 2/27/2019 at 5:32 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Wow Kushner is one brave motherfucker! Wasn't he worried he might get tortured, killed, dismembered, and dissolved.

I bet Trump might care then.

Maybe not.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

[WhatTheBuck 28775]

2 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Not just this.  MSNBC spellllllssssssss it out soooooo fucking slowwwwwllyyyyy...  I hate to say this but it caters to a 'slower' audience.  I actually much prefer MSNBC to Fox (obviously) but it is such a drag to watch Maddow take 7 minutes to close a point that should have been 30 seconds.  But that's what the average Joe needs to get anything through his thick skull. 

This isn't accurate. I posted on Momday during Maddow that the "get to the point" crowd couldn't complain because she had a lot to cover and dove right in. I only caught the first 20-30 minutes of the midnight replay the last couple of nights but it's a busy news week with Cohen and Korea so she got right down to business. Last night she effectively opened with a syllabus of what the show was going to cover. 

I don't know what you're talking about regarding "taking 7 minutes to close a point that should have been 30 seconds." Maybe you could provide an example. It's an hour long show. Maybe sometimes the producer is in her ear telling her to stretch the segment out until the next commercial break. That happens in television and radio. 

It's pretty simple, really. If she's not talking about anything interesting when you tune in, change the channel. If she's giving a history lesson about some finer detail from the McCarthy era or Watergate then she's probably going to relate that to the Trump investigation(s) eventually. 

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[WhatTheBuck 28775]

56 minutes ago, retread said:

Ivanka is no Elly May.

Elly May's tits were real. 

[Bama Chick 28596]

just stopping by to say no, this is not right man. MSNBC and CNN are both very slanted to the 'left'. not as much as Fox is, but thats not really important. Follows the general political culture of America right now really. Its a pooh off and people are still satisfied arguing that their pooh smells less stinky than someone else's. everywhere.
happy Friday homeboys. I am in the future now. I know Thursday doesn't have any nukes, so sleep tight friends

No. Just no.

MSNBC has left leaning commentary mixed in with news reporting that is filtered through a liberal viewpoint.

CNN has pretty middle of the road news reporting. They’re commentators are 75% left leaning. Then the bend over backwards to pacify the nutters cauterwalling about “fake news” and hire people like Santorum and Sarah Isgur.

Haven’t heard about Isgur?

Early on in the Trump administration, then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions ran into a staffing problem as he took over the Department of Justice. According to The Washington Post, Sessions very much wanted to hire longtime Republican political operative Sarah Isgur as his chief spokeswoman, but she had “criticized [President Donald] Trump, repeatedly, during the 2016 Republican primaries,” and thus her “prospects for a Justice Department job stalled.” To break the logjam, the Post reported, Isgur paid Trump “a cordial visit during which she told the president she was on board with his agenda and would be honored to serve him.”

The incident was noteworthy when the Post reported it last April because it demonstrated both the president’s overriding need for loyalty and the willingness of Republican operatives to kiss Trump’s ring as a means of career advancement. The story has taken on new relevance now that the same Sarah Isgur who personally expressed her loyalty to the sitting president has reportedly been hired as a political editor at CNN.

In certain respects, this is a baffling move by CNN. According to Politico, which first broke the news, Isgur will assume her editorial role at the network in March and “will coordinate political coverage for the 2020 campaign.” Isgur is a career political operative -- she’s worked for Sessions, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), the Republican National Committee, and Carly Fiorina’s failed 2016 presidential campaign -- but there is no indication that she has ever worked in any capacity as a journalist (unless you count appearing as a pundit on cable news, which you should not). CNN has hired a person with zero experience producing news to oversee the production of news.

Not only that, but the network has turned over its 2020 political coverage to a person who is more or less a walking conflict of interest. Politico notes that Isgur, because of her employment history, “will not play a role in covering the Department of Justice.” How on earth can a cable news channel have a political editor who can’t cover DOJ? The workings of the Justice Department are at the heart of some of the most critically important political stories of the Trump era. The Russia investigation and the special counsel’s office are going to be hugely important topics for the 2020 campaign, and Democratic candidates are likely going to spend considerable energy attacking DOJ policies that Isgur defended, such as Sessions’ legal assault on sanctuary laws for undocumented immigrants.

It doesn’t make much sense to have a political editor who has never worked in journalism, and it doesn’t make any sense to have a political editor who is walled off from important stories that will be central to the very coverage she is supposed to be coordinating. And those problems rest uneasily atop issues that arise from Isgur’s partisan leanings and her loyalties to current and former high-ranking Trump officials. Isgur’s presence will lead to persistent, difficult-to-answer questions about how her politics and conflicts of interest are shaping the network’s 2020 coverage.

CNN’s choice of a Trump administration veteran does, however, fit in with the network’s fantastically self-defeating strategy of hiring pro-Trump mercenaries who shill on behalf of a president and administration that delight in demonizing CNN. The journalism industry does not lack for talented, experienced professionals who are desperate for work, but CNN opted to give this important job to a Jeff Sessions acolyte who has never worked as a journalist. That sure feels like the network sabotaging its own interests in order to send a conciliatory message to a political movement that will always view it as an “enemy of the people.”

CNN is basing its business model on this “false fairness” - trying to straddle the middle by have Trumpkins and leftists to grab viewers from both ends.

To compare either to Fox is just lazy.

As bad as CNN and MSNBC can be neither of them make up things out of thin air, ignore actual news in favor of pushing some bullshittery about a caravan invasion/MS-13/infant slaughter/whatever scare old people topic of the week, report on conspiracy theories as if they were facts (Seth Rich/Comet Pizza/Jade Helm), allow an on air personality to lie on air about people stalking and attacking his home and let him keep his job and never correct that lie or apologize, allow an on air personality to call immigrants dirty and diseased and keep their job, allow on on air personality to expose personal information about a teenager who survived a mass shooting because she doesn’t like his politics and keep her job, employ Lou Dobbs.

Fox News is actual propaganda and literal lies wrapped in a blanket of racism and sexism dipped in stupidity.

The others aren’t even close.

When CNN runs a story about the Trump kids involvement in a shady murder cover up and how Ivanka’s purses are used to smuggle in foreign children for their Park Avenue sex cult, then we can compare.

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CNN is IMO unwatchable.  it's a bunch of has been political commentators giving all sides analysis shouting at each other, with little actual news.  It's not biased.  But it's also not really news.  If there's anything to be gained by watching Rick Santorum argue with Gloria Borger arguing with Van Jones, I'm not sure what it is.

MSNBC has actual news on.  Yes, there's some left lean, but what's reported is accurate.  Their guests are not commentators shouting at each other, but reporters or experts with knowledge of what's being discussed, for the most part.  If there's commentary, it's generally not political commentators, but people such as criminal law or foreign security experts discussing the Russia investigation.   The biggest problem with MSNBC (and also true of CNN) is it's just endless harping on the one big news story of the day.  Trump all the time.  No discussion of say, the situation with India and Pakistan, or what's happening in Puerto Rico currently.  

Fox is just Gop propaganda, and isn't even news or true.

 

[staboner 4969]

like i said in my post, they aren't as bad as fox. the point is not to compare shit and throw it at each other. went right over your heads. 

NONE OF THE MSM IS DOING THE JOB WE NEED THEM TO DO. 

ergo, talking about them in some odd battle royale of online banter for years and years now is really pointless. you ever wonder why you are still here?

anyway, fox is terrible. the worst, yes. thats great. @RomaVictathanks not labeling me a fox apologist. thats great. pay attention man. much love brother. rant on. 

Edited March 1, 2019 by staboner

[ChiTownDoc 21142]

47 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

This isn't accurate. I posted on Momday during Maddow that the "get to the point" crowd couldn't complain because she had a lot to cover and dove right in. I only caught the first 20-30 minutes of the midnight replay the last couple of nights but it's a busy news week with Cohen and Korea so she got right down to business. Last night she effectively opened with a syllabus of what the show was going to cover. 

I don't know what you're talking about regarding "taking 7 minutes to close a point that should have been 30 seconds." Maybe you could provide an example. It's an hour long show. Maybe sometimes the producer is in her ear telling her to stretch the segment out until the next commercial break. That happens in television and radio. 

It's pretty simple, really. If she's not talking about anything interesting when you tune in, change the channel. If she's giving a history lesson about some finer detail from the McCarthy era or Watergate then she's probably going to relate that to the Trump investigation(s) eventually. 

Lol.  Ok.  Maybe I’m a fucking genius but the pace seems damn slow to me...and I’m fairly certain I’m no genius and it is slow af.  

But everyone wants to cheer for their team and MSNBC definitely leans hard left.  

Edit:  Let me be clear...there's nothing wrong with viewing actual news from the viewpoint of someone on the left and opine based on that viewpoint.  This is not FOX bullshit where they lie and make up whatever as they go.  So, I don't have a problem with MSNBC...I probably watch it as much as CNN and much more than Fox which is hard to stomach even 5 min at a time...unless it's Shep.  Love me some Shep. 

Edited March 1, 2019 by ChiTownDoc

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6 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

The GOP: Let's tap into the energy of the Tea Party and nominate Sarah Palin.

Oh shit, this was a mistake.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[WhatTheBuck 28775]

1 minute ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Lol.  Ok.  Maybe I’m a fucking genius but the pace seems damn slow to me...and I’m fairly certain I’m no genius and it is slow af.  

But everyone wants to cheer for their team and MSNBC definitely leans hard left.  

Taking 7 minutes on something that should've taken 30 seconds seems oddly specific. Genius or not, I'd think you could expound on that.

Monday night's show was divided into 7 segments. Because the topic had come up (again) on here, I took notes. I didn't time stamp any of it but I could detail the breakdown of the show. The meat of it was an interview with John Brennan in the 2nd and 3rd segments. Apart from that she talked about Cohen's impending testimony, Trump's summit with Kim, how Trump sought Putin's advice on N. Korea, how Sergey Lavrov was in Hanoi, there was an update on Maria Butina's status and some discussion about Konstantin Kilimnik. Just before the show aired, Manafort's legal team submitted their reply to his sentencing memo so she had a reporter from the NYT on to provide details on that. 

At no time did she take 7 minutes to resolve a point that should've only taken 30 seconds. 

[WhatTheBuck 28775]

As long as we're on a cable news tangent, I'd like to share something funny Al Sharpton said on Morning Joe today. I'm not much of a fan and have never quoted him before but this was pretty good. They were talking about Lynne Patton being used as a prop in Cohen's hearing to prove Trump isn't racist. Al commented that he'd been to Trump Tower scores of times and the darkest thing there was the lighting in the elevator. I got a chuckle out of that. 

[ChiTownDoc 21142]

8 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Taking 7 minutes on something that should've taken 30 seconds seems oddly specific. Genius or not, I'd think you could expound on that.

Monday night's show was divided into 7 segments. Because the topic had come up (again) on here, I took notes. I didn't time stamp any of it but I could detail the breakdown of the show. The meat of it was an interview with John Brennan in the 2nd and 3rd segments. Apart from that she talked about Cohen's impending testimony, Trump's summit with Kim, how Trump sought Putin's advice on N. Korea, how Sergey Lavrov was in Hanoi, there was an update on Maria Butina's status and some discussion about Konstantin Kilimnik. Just before the show aired, Manafort's legal team submitted their reply to his sentencing memo so she had a reporter from the NYT on to provide details on that. 

At no time did she take 7 minutes to resolve a point that should've only taken 30 seconds. 

I was exaggerating for effect.  Like her pauses 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Gaslighting at its finest 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[wildcat09 29345]

42 minutes ago, staboner said:

like i said in my post, they aren't as bad as fox. the point is not to compare shit and throw it at each other. went right over your heads. 

NONE OF THE MSM IS DOING THE JOB WE NEED THEM TO DO. 

ergo, talking about them in some odd battle royale of online banter for years and years now is really pointless. you ever wonder why you are still here?

anyway, fox is terrible. the worst, yes. thats great. @RomaVictathanks not labeling me a fox apologist. thats great. pay attention man. much love brother. rant on. 

Of course not. They can't, because they're for-profit corporate-owned businesses. Further, most people for a variety of reasons aren't particularly interested in really understanding our political and economic systems. Expecting the mainstream media to effectively educate the general public given these constraints is foolish.

[4th&Five 41510]

 

[Radical Larry 28545]

Gonna have to pass on that.

[Vito Andolini 9124]

On 2/26/2019 at 6:53 AM, HornOnTheBayou said:

The number of abortions he has promised to pay for or actually paid for? Because those are two very different numbers.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11819]

Why even bother to interview?  Hell just have a camera follow them around since they’re always together. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

24 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Are they gonna talk about their common lawyer? Or does Cohen still represent Hannity?

[Message Board User 12395]

 

[Francisco 2.0 32386]

As always.

 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

A tweet for every occasion 

[Eskimohorn 5630]

I was being flippant.  And I'm generally not a fan of MSNBC.
But as I said earlier: other stations are guilty of spin, selective coverage, and editorializing; Fox News is guilty of creating an entirely false narrative.  Fox News is not a reliable source of information on any level.  They're just making shit up.  MSNBC cannot be fairly accused of anything remotely similar to what Fox News is doing.

Fox News viewers are less informed about issues than if they has watched no news at all. They are unique in this regard.

[TornACL 7698]

13 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

 

Fox News viewers are less informed about issues than if they has watched no news at all. They are unique in this regard.

 

But they're experts on Uranium One!!!!111!!!11oneone!!!

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

And now we know why there were so many questions about a book deal.

Expect a box conspiracy theory shortly.

Edited March 1, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Native Horn 3498]

14 hours ago, TornACL said:

This whole regime is like when they let the Clampetts into Beverly Hills. 

Fool's gold.....Texas wall

[Eskimohorn 5630]

And now we know why there were so many questions about a book deal.
Expect a box conspiracy theory shortly.

Uh, so why are Charlottesville and Helsinki significant? Did something happen there?

[4th&Five 41510]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[bad_teammate 13189]

LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!

(seriously, unironically, put her in jail please)

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13570]

Opening the lid to Trump's finances would be like opening a shaken beer of felonies.

[Js1 85275]

LOL "he doesn't make spelling errors for no reason"

[DigglerontheHoof 21176]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

LOL "he doesn't make spelling errors for no reason"

Well, he's right.  The reason he makes spelling errors is because he's stupid.

[Atx71 146]

16 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Flop sweat is oozing from that tweet. 

[Js1 85275]

"he doesn't mack spelling errurs for no raisin!" 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Have there been any surveys amongst these Q folks? I’m curious what percent attend church? 

[Asithappens 974]

1 hour ago, Eskimohorn said:

 

Fox News viewers are less informed about issues than if they has watched no news at all. They are unique in this regard.

 

Fox "News" viewers are regarded, that's for sure.

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20 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

Have there been any surveys amongst these Q folks? I’m curious what percent attend church? 

attend church?

dude, they don't really even leave their houses

[HenryJames 66037]

 

[Fudge Nuggets 19188]

21 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

They obviously didn't ask Lil Kim straight up if he murdered their son, because he would have said no he didn't and they would have believed him.  Dotard believes him so why not?

[hayden_horn 11362]

23 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

this is a very alarming aspect to trump's presidency, honestly. i think the reason he doesn't mind murderous autocrats is because he wants to be one himself. this is worse than all the graft crimes and russian collusion. he really wants to be able to murder people with impunity. i really think he wishes he could have jim acosta dragged screaming from the press pool to some dungeon somewhere for torture.

he just is a terrible human being. you have to think: if you were in the presence of a known murderer, would you be cool with that? i know being president means you have to rub shoulders with some unsavory characters, but you do not have to heap lavish praise on the shoulders of known killers. but he does, with kim, with putin, with MBS. our president wants to be like those people. or maybe he is already like those people, he just cannot act as they do, and it infuriates him. 

think about that for a second, because it really transcends politics.