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15 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

God is an aggy, who knew? 

There was a time when these right-wing Christians would have crucified someone with Trumps history of multiple marriages, affairs, sexual assaults, lying and non-church attendance. Boy, have times changed.

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3 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

There was a time when these right-wing Christians would have crucified someone with Trumps history of multiple marriages, affairs, sexual assaults, lying and non-church attendance. Boy, have times changed.

Could greed have anything to do with it?

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Even though Ledge Brisket is back, let me talk him and everyone off the ledge.

Trump lost by 3 million votes and every single demographic force has made that number worse over the past 2 years.  I could go about that but I won't but it gets worse every single day this goes on.  The GOP got totally worked in the mid terms.  Despite the media confusion, if was a historic when you factor in the gerrymandering.  Since those mid terms, the GOP has done their best to run off the suburban white women that haven't already left.  People are focusing on Trump's approval ratings in the low 40's but what they're missing is his strong disapprovals in the low to mid 50's.  That's incredibly important.  Those people have already made their decision.

There is no way this is going to be anything but a historic loss, especially when you consider how well the economy is on paper. 

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7 hours ago, Skyline said:

 

I look forward to the Presidential campaign, so he'll stay here and embarrass us nationally at his narcissistic rantings to deluded sycophants Town Halls, rather than internationally at political events, where any respect we may have in the world is being eaten away with each ridiculous appearance.

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21 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Even though Ledge Brisket is back, let me talk him and everyone off the ledge.

Trump lost by 3 million votes and every single demographic force has made that number worse over the past 2 years.  I could go about that but I won't but it gets worse every single day this goes on.  The GOP got totally worked in the mid terms.  Despite the media confusion, if was a historic when you factor in the gerrymandering.  Since those mid terms, the GOP has done their best to run off the suburban white women that haven't already left.  People are focusing on Trump's approval ratings in the low 40's but what they're missing is his strong disapprovals in the low to mid 50's.  That's incredibly important.  Those people have already made their decision.

There is no way this is going to be anything but a historic loss, especially when you consider how well the economy is on paper. 

With all due respect, I've lost a little faith in the election demographic guessing and polls/whatever in the last ten years.

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41 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Even though Ledge Brisket is back, let me talk him and everyone off the ledge.

Trump lost by 3 million votes and every single demographic force has made that number worse over the past 2 years.  I could go about that but I won't but it gets worse every single day this goes on.  The GOP got totally worked in the mid terms.  Despite the media confusion, if was a historic when you factor in the gerrymandering.  Since those mid terms, the GOP has done their best to run off the suburban white women that haven't already left.  People are focusing on Trump's approval ratings in the low 40's but what they're missing is his strong disapprovals in the low to mid 50's.  That's incredibly important.  Those people have already made their decision.

There is no way this is going to be anything but a historic loss, especially when you consider how well the economy is on paper. 

 

I'd like to think so, but I've hedged my bets. 

The only way I think he loses without a doubt is if the economy tanks sometime late this year and drags well into next summer/fall.  Presidents unfairly get the blame or the credit on the economy.  Trump can't simultaneously take the credit and then pass off the blame if/when it takes (oh, I know he will, and the faithful will believe it anyway).

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4 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

I don’t know.  It could be. From my point of view, it depends.  Does Trump decide to start a war (obviously World War 3 would be worse than whatever hippie nonsense Bernie conjures)?  I can’t rule that out, at all.

What does the Congress look like?  Bernie with a gridlocked government would be ok.  Bernie signing into law every far left proposal from the Green New Deal would, in my view, be worse than Trump embarrassing us constantly but largely resigning himself to toilet tweet storms and pretending to build a wall instead of actually working at anything.

Both of them are ridiculous old coots who shouldn’t have the job, albeit at least Bernie isn’t a malignant narcissist.

If both options suck, and I know my vote isn’t actually deciding the election, I’d rather not vote for either of them.  I know if everyone did that there would be a collective problem, but I’m not actually influencing anyone else.  

It's interesting that you didn't bother to address the judicial.  Funny, that.  </transparent>

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So called experts using their past “models” to somehow predict a trump victory in 2020 are totally full of shit. We are way past the looking glass in uncharted territory and your past models are not worth a shit.

Trump will lose in 2020. It needs to be resounding enough though or that fucker is gonna try to claim its not legitimate. But fortunately, it will be. He’s going to get his ass kicked in. I don’t give a shit what Brisket says about that (and I love me some Brisket). 

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2 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

We are way past the looking glass in uncharted territory 

Yeah, Trump has nearly devastated the field of political science back to the humanities.  Too much contamination and corruption in our political system to make good predictions.  No one really knows shit.  

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2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yeah, Trump has nearly devastated the field of political science back to the humanities.  Too much contamination and corruption in our political system to make good predictions.  No one really knows shit.  

It’s a pseudo science like psychology. It has its uses and is a worthwhile endeavor, but like psychology it really only explains what you are seeing or recently saw, not why it is happening. And possible reasons why it happened or why you see it.

It certainly doesnt predict any future events. Any such predictions will of course be wrong and will then cause them to adjust the model. 

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Rep. Justin Amash Gets Standing Ovation At Town Hall For 'His Courage'

 

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In his first town hall since coming out for impeachment, Rep. Justin Amash stood before his constituents and explained why he believed Donald Trump has committed impeachable offenses, and why he is standing firm in calling for his impeachment, in spite of being the sole Republican to do so.

"I think it's really important that we do our job as a Congress, that we not allow misconduct to go undeterred. I'm confident if you read volume two you'll be appalled at much of the conduct and I was appalled by it. That's why I stated what I stated. That's why I came to that conclusion because I think we can't go -- we can't let conduct like that go unchecked," Amash explained.

A man in the crowd stood and said, "I want to salute your courage."

The thunderous applause from the audience spoke volumes. The media continues to focus on this tiny little group of Trump cultists and pretend they represent the entire country when in fact, anyone who reads the Mueller report will conclude exactly what Amash has -- that Trump has committed impeachable offenses and should be held to account.

Amash's 25-tweet thread calling out Bill Barr is here and his argument for impeachment is here.

 

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6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

He might try, but then he’d be giving the Dems an easy Senate win in 2022.   

He doesn’t care. Idiots will eat it up. “Trump’s nominee deserves to be confirmed, he’s the god damn president” they’ll say with no hint of irony  

 

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The really scary thing to me is this: if you think Trump did outlandish shit in his first term, what do you think he'll do when approval rating doesn't even matter anymore?

Second term will be the unleashing of hell since he doesn't need to worry about being re elected

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51 minutes ago, SKJ said:

The really scary thing to me is this: if you think Trump did outlandish shit in his first term, what do you think he'll do when approval rating doesn't even matter anymore?

Second term will be the unleashing of hell since he doesn't need to worry about being re elected

Probably the same behavior he would exhibit if he were to lose.  Trump seeing his executive orders dismantled, no wall, whatever would see him putting whoever was President on daily blast.  Difference being he wouldn't have any power per se.

 

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It's very Machiavellian.  Trump appeals to evangelicals' pro-life stance, and to a certain degree hits the mark on the bigoted subset, whether it's race or sexuality.  They generally don't like the way the message is delivered, but in a very "ends justify the means" way excuse it for what they perceived to be the right outcome.
They're also being fooled by "holy men" at the top who are anything but.  We've seen this play out for decades in the mega-churches.  In general, evangelicals are easily played.

Trump can kill stories about the evangelicals caught in a motel room with a 15 yr old boy.
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There was a time when these right-wing Christians would have crucified someone with Trumps history of multiple marriages, affairs, sexual assaults, lying and non-church attendance. Boy, have times changed.

No there wasn’t. They only want to crucify Democrats while pretending they are the victims. They worshipped GWB as well.
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26 minutes ago, Nivek said:


No there wasn’t. They only want to crucify Democrats while pretending they are the victims. They worshipped GWB as well.

I do agree with you in part, but I remember they questioned nominating Reagan because he had been divorced. 

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11 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

This bullshit of if so-and-so is the Democratic nominee then I'm just sitting this one out no longer works. I have sat it out before because I felt both Republicans and Democrats were the same. If the last two and a half years of having a childish screaming asshole as president have taught us nothing else it should be that THIS IS NOT A BOTH SIDES thing any longer.

 Anyone still saying both sides should be shot out of a cannon directly into an active volcano. I am no fan of the Democrats for the most part, but holy hell if you can't understand why they have to win the office of the president in 2020 instead of our fat fucking orange Dotard and his merry band of racist shitheads then I don't know what to tell you. They will gleefully continue to further ruin our country by treating all those evil brown people as being less than human as long as they are allowed to. If that is okay with you then fuck right off and crawl back into the hole you came out of. You deserve to wind up at the bottom of the East River.

My man

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1 hour ago, Brandywine said:

I do agree with you in part, but I remember they questioned nominating Reagan because he had been divorced. 

That likable, avuncular moron was divorced from reality. There's your issue. 

Read budget director Stockman's book. Reagan was the perfect smiling face to stretch across the burgeoning hate engine that would characterize the GOP that Trump just seized.

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There was demographics talk on here the other day from henrygandorf and others.  Having the 2018 election be the first of Gen Z's political life, and so early in Millennial's, will be the end of Boomers running things.  The hardest thing in the world is getting someone to vote that hasn't voted before.  And it is really easy to get someone to vote the 2nd time.  Putting a shitbag up as the standard bearer for your party inspired a lot of people to vote and was the Boomers signing their own death warrant.

 

FT_19.05.23_GenerationsVoting_Millennial

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

There was demographics talk on here the other day from henrygandorf and others.  Having the 2018 election be the first of Gen Z's political life, and so early in Millennial's, will be the end of Boomer's running things.  The hardest thing in the world is getting someone to vote that hasn't voted before.  And it is really easy to get someone to vote the 2nd time.  Putting a shitbag up and the standard bearer for your party inspired a lot of people to vote and was the Boomer's signing their own death warrant.

 

FT_19.05.23_GenerationsVoting_Millennial

 

 

This is my hope.  W and the Iraq war got me to vote for the first time in 2004.  I haven't missed any local or national election since.

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12 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

His troll game is solid today.... 

 

 

He didn't write that, nothing is randomly capitalized. They took his phone away. Expect a late night rant in a couple days when he can steal his phone back.

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2 minutes ago, sachick said:

He didn't write that, nothing is randomly capitalized. They took his phone away. Expect a late night rant in a couple days when he can steal his phone back.

Trump would never use the word insufficient.

 

Also, lol at whoever decided to use "insufficient evidence". So in other words there was SOME evidence that he is a shitbag criminal, but not enough. So totally exonerated! What a lying piece of human garbage. 

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Democrats have been talking about demographics destroying the Republican party for the last thirty years, while the Republicans have been wielding power to consolidate their control of the country and turn this place into the Handmaid's Tale. In another five years contraception will be illegal and women will be wearing the whole Handmaid's getup and center-left Democrats and center-right former Republicans will still be holding out hope for the next election to magically return everything to normalcy.

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I wish there was a better word to use than troll when discussing his tweets.

There’s an element of skill involved in being an effective troll.

He’s just a pantsshitting angry fat ogre oozing vitriol on the Twitter machine.

30 years ago he’d be the crazy dude on every college campus who stalks around the quad in his underwear and a sandwich board screeching about the end times.

Calling him a troll gives him too much credit.

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1 hour ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

His troll game is solid today.... 

 

 

I find it weird that the presumption of innocence in criminal law somehow makes people think it applies to the actual fact of innocence. If I kill a guy, it's a fact that I'm guilty of that act. The state's failure to meet a standard of proof in court does not change that fact. 

"RomaVicta, you killed that guy!"

"No, since there is insufficient evidence to convict me, it's clear that I didn't do it even though I remember doing it. Kinda cool, huh?"

That's significantly different than replying:

"I did not kill that man. They couldn't prove it because I didn't do it."

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