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1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s important to remember what the IRA troll accounts were pushing.  The ones I was following were pumping out some of the most racist and xenophobic messages I’ve ever seen on twitter.  I ended up unfollowing Pamela because her stuff was so offensive/disturbing/misleading.

This is what her profile page looked like in 2016:

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This was a Kremlin troll account. 

Interesting to see the Following and Followers be so close. They had to have followed each other to create a fake community. Once one account catches on, it quickly expands the community impact. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

The only network (well, two if you count OAN) that matters will.  And that's all that is important.

I think it's usually on PBS.  In light of Trump threatening their funding, they should say fuck it and not show.

Posted
14 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

And we need to embrace the only people who are actually interested in fighting back: The decentralized group of randoms and misfits who understand what it's like to be the first ones under the boot of angry white boys.

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Democrats won't help us.

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20 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

And we need to embrace the only people who are actually interested in fighting back: The decentralized group of randoms and misfits who understand what it's like to be the first ones under the boot of angry white boys.

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Democrats won't help us.

“Hey guys, I know what will work: let’s be an American version of German Communists, circa 1930!”

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Posted
21 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Interesting to see the Following and Followers be so close. They had to have followed each other to create a fake community. Once one account catches on, it quickly expands the community impact. 

They were all created in the same place or coordinated by the same leadership.  That's how it works and why so many idiots and olds fell for it.  

The micro targeting done with the help of the Manafort polling data made it very effective.  This was not a few Facebook ads as they say when trying to downplay it.  

Posted
1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

“Hey guys, I know what will work: let’s be an American version of German Communists, circa 1930!”

Well, yes. Obviously.

Wait... is this intended be be ironic/mocking?

Posted
8 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:
9 hours ago, Lobo said:
Segura is not funnier than Mulaney.  Never saw the two of them mentioned together, but John is funnier.  
 

You're wrong, but so is this topic for this thread

 

This is where I really miss being able to leave comments in rep.... 

Posted
17 minutes ago, Dertyberd said:

They were all created in the same place or coordinated by the same leadership.  That's how it works and why so many idiots and olds fell for it.  

The micro targeting done with the help of the Manafort polling data made it very effective.  This was not a few Facebook ads as they say when trying to downplay it.  

I've found it kind of odd that the Hamilton 68 russian troll tracking site/dashboard has been down since before the election last year. Or for a quite a while.  They keep saying there's a version 2.0 coming out but it never has.

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20 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Well, yes. Obviously.

Wait... is this intended be be ironic/mocking?

No, not at all.  The German Communists were wildly successful in stemming the tide of Naziism, and did not merely play the role of hapless patsies used to advance Hitler’s agenda.  

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15 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

No, not at all.  The German Communists were wildly successful in stemming the tide of Naziism, and did not merely play the role of hapless patsies used to advance Hitler’s agenda. 

I would absolutely love to read your explanation of what you think you mean by this.

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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

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What perspective is this from, BrickHorn?

Posted
7 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

I've found it kind of odd that the Hamilton 68 russian troll tracking site/dashboard has been down since before the election last year. Or for a quite a while.  They keep saying there's a version 2.0 coming out but it never has.

Lulz.  I wish I had a funny quip to respond with.  It's been fucking painful to see the media and political scientists drop the ball on this. Sure, the regimes outright denial of our intelligence services findings help throw a big wrench in things, but it is amazing that we're two plus year into this and folks are just now "hearing" that it happened.  

Fun job for the next 16 months would be on the cyber warfare teams, assuming the regime hasn't already compromised our defenses.  It appears the R's in congress haven't done much to bolster our defenses.  

Can't wait to read about Kamala's Underground Railroad for illegal immigrants.  It's coming.    

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You’re missing the point, bad_teammate.  I don’t side with the right wing.  To the contrary, I would very much like to see them trounced.  

If you want to fail in defeating the right wing, by all means use the tactics German Communists employed.  Get fucking run over by the right wing and used as a convenient scapegoat to sway public opinion in favor of evil.  That’ll show ‘em!

On the other hand, if you want to prevail over the alt right, look elsewhere for strategic inspiration.

And study history, for Christ’s sake.

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The right likes to use Antifa as controlled opposition by portraying them as a violent terrorist group.   They are not.  

The antifa we see in the media is mostly just a bunch of sexually frustrated antisocial hooligans.  They don’t have a dangerous ideology or a strong organizational structure.  There is no real leader in the antifa movement, if you want to call it a movement.  

Anti-fascist should be the default setting of all good American citizens.  The right distorts this default setting by demonizing and co-opting some antifa subgroups. 

In short, it’s just a ploy to make the fascists look like the real victims. 

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8 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

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i am guessing Tucker and Trump are not a fans of Japan's income tax rate/policies that help keep these cities clean.

Japan's individual income tax rates including local taxes are among the highest tax rates in the world. The effective top marginal tax rate is around 50%.

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

In short, it’s just a ploy to make the fascists look like the real victims. 

Of course.  Just like the Reichstag Fire was a ploy to make the Nazis seem sympathetic.  But you know what?  That shit worked (for the bad guys).

Dressing up like goons and taking to the streets to shout slogans and hurl rocks might feel good.  It might feel like you’re doing something constructive.  “We’re out here in the fresh air, fighting bad guys!”  But it has absolutely zero positive effect.  And worse, it gifts the real goons a scapegoat and an example to support their #bothsides! propaganda.  It’s an idiotic, immature strategy, doomed to failure. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, yoladu said:

i am guessing Tucker and Trump are not a fans of Japan's income tax rate/policies that help keep these cities clean.

Japan's individual income tax rates including local taxes are among the highest tax rates in the world. The effective top marginal tax rate is around 50%.

And a 55% inheritance tax rate. Ivanka might have to get a job if she was Japanese.  But the big difference is the willingness of Japanese corporations and business owners to offer a drastically more equal distribution of income from top to bottom.  Trump can't have that private jet and yacht if he pays his janitors a living wage.  

Posted
1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

And we need to embrace the only people who are actually interested in fighting back: The decentralized group of randoms and misfits who understand what it's like to be the first ones under the boot of angry white boys.

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Democrats won't help us.

Bernie bro, Assange bro, guy forced by Dems to vote trump feels the best path forward is to divide the left. Shocking

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Posted
5 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:

Bernie bro, Assange bro, guy forced by Dems to vote trump feels the best path forward is to divide the left. Shocking

Bad teammate, indeed.

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Posted
8 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

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there are plenty of homeless people in japan. they live in tarped tents in parks all over the place. officially, there are zero, but there are plenty. plenty of graffiti as well. this dude just talks out of his ass. and yes, the cities are cleaner, but that's cultural, in part, but also because people have jobs cleaning, and those jobs are subsidized by tax dollars.

Posted
2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s important to remember what the IRA troll accounts were pushing.  The ones I was following were pumping out some of the most racist and xenophobic messages I’ve ever seen on twitter.  I ended up unfollowing Pamela Moore before the election because her stuff was so offensive/disturbing/misleading.

This is what her profile page looked like in 2016:

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This was a Kremlin troll account. 

It could resemble just about any twitter account from Lubbock.  

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^^ Only stick to the Report?  There is that little bit of interest the House has in clarifying the interactions between Mueller and Barr.  Last night Nadler flat out called out Trump and Barr for their abject lying.  

Posted
8 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Trump is going to fuck up the 4th of July in DC.

The good news is him and his ilk will not be able to control who gets "in" to hear his bullshit.

I hope there are tons of booing people.

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Trump is going to fuck up the 4th of July in DC.
The good news is him and his ilk will not be able to control who gets "in" to hear his bullshit.
I hope there are tons of booing people.


It’d be better if everyone found another bbq to go to.
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As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

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It’d be better if everyone found another bbq to go to.

If I were in DC, you couldn’t pay me to go to this thing. It’s going to be a MAGA rally and I wouldn’t feel safe. You can’t tell I’m Mexican because I’m so light skinned but I’m still female and I have no desire to be in a crowd of mouth breathers.
Posted
5 minutes ago, Keef said:

As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

All we need is Trump to go there and say, "You can't do that."  Problem solved, just like he did in DC.

Posted
3 hours ago, Gooby said:

I think it's usually on PBS.  In light of Trump threatening their funding, they should say fuck it and not show.

PBS' annual Capitol Fourth nonpartisan special is happening independently of the Trump event and has been planned for months, although Trump's team is claiming it as part of their other events (parade, Blue Angels, etc.). 

 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

See, the Russians get it, why don't we get it?

A big part of the problem is we lack imagination.    We think nothing bad can ever happen to our America.  That our flag, constitution, military, and economy will always protect us from harm.  That the only real danger is the brown people and the Muslims invading our lands.  

The game has changed with the internet/social media and the billionaire class of subversive forces that weaponize it.  We haven’t adapted to the emerging threats because it’s something that hasn’t happened before, at least not like this.

How can you prepare for a threat that’s never existed or alert others of the danger when no one in this country has experienced the catastrophic consequences? 

Posted
40 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Please let him come out to the parade in military uniform.  Need the fascist checklist to be complete.

With the appropriate medals and ribbons and gilded epaulets.

 

 

Posted
29 minutes ago, Keef said:

As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

The future liberals want.

Posted
That was intended as a comment on the general point I was making.  I do think that it is true, as far as proverbs go.  
You mean like when the Senate refuses to bring a Supreme Court nominee up for a vote?
Posted
1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

there are plenty of homeless people in japan. they live in tarped tents in parks all over the place. officially, there are zero, but there are plenty. plenty of graffiti as well. this dude just talks out of his ass. and yes, the cities are cleaner, but that's cultural, in part, but also because people have jobs cleaning, and those jobs are subsidized by tax dollars.

It's like every tired talking point and trope from the 1980s came roaring back to life with the Trump admin and his moron supporters. Which makes sense because Trump was  a product of the bullshit ass 1980s and never left the decade which saw his rise. That's why all his references to famous people are always old as fuck 1980s has beens. Like feuding with Bette Fucking Midler of all people. 

Posted
45 minutes ago, Keef said:

As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

So parts of a major US city are disgusting and other parts are really nice? Shocking 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

So parts of a major US city are disgusting and other parts are really nice? Shocking 

I've spent time in most major US cities.  San Francisco is the worst I've seen.  And I say that as a liberal person who loves living here.  

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Veteran organizations to hand out USS McCain shirts during Trump’s Fourth of July celebration

Two veteran-led organizations are planning to honor late Arizona Senator John McCain by handing out T-shirts during President Donald Trump’s Fourth of July speech in Washington.

Rags of Honor and VoteVets are both participating in the distribution of the “Big Bad John” shirts, which feature the destroyer that was named for the late senator’s grandfather and father — before the younger McCain was added last July as a namesake by Navy Secretary Richard Spencer.

Some members of the organization are also planning on passing out shirts at the House and Senate buildings, The Hill reported.

“At this year’s national Fourth of July celebration we’ll be distributing T-shirts that feature the USS John S. McCain," the VoteVets website says.

"We may have had political battles against Senator McCain, but what has bound us together since 1776 — the belief in something larger than yourself — is always worth honoring on the Fourth.”

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49 minutes ago, Keef said:

As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

Alcatraz.  

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