Donald Trump 2019

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s important to remember what the IRA troll accounts were pushing.  The ones I was following were pumping out some of the most racist and xenophobic messages I’ve ever seen on twitter.  I ended up unfollowing Pamela because her stuff was so offensive/disturbing/misleading.

This is what her profile page looked like in 2016:

 

This was a Kremlin troll account. 

Interesting to see the Following and Followers be so close. They had to have followed each other to create a fake community. Once one account catches on, it quickly expands the community impact. 

[Gooby 633]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

The only network (well, two if you count OAN) that matters will.  And that's all that is important.

I think it's usually on PBS.  In light of Trump threatening their funding, they should say fuck it and not show.

[HenryJames 65887]

14 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

And we need to embrace the only people who are actually interested in fighting back: The decentralized group of randoms and misfits who understand what it's like to be the first ones under the boot of angry white boys.

Democrats won't help us.

[BrickHorn 18186]

20 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

And we need to embrace the only people who are actually interested in fighting back: The decentralized group of randoms and misfits who understand what it's like to be the first ones under the boot of angry white boys.

Democrats won't help us.

“Hey guys, I know what will work: let’s be an American version of German Communists, circa 1930!”

[Dertyberd 394]

21 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

Interesting to see the Following and Followers be so close. They had to have followed each other to create a fake community. Once one account catches on, it quickly expands the community impact. 

They were all created in the same place or coordinated by the same leadership.  That's how it works and why so many idiots and olds fell for it.  

The micro targeting done with the help of the Manafort polling data made it very effective.  This was not a few Facebook ads as they say when trying to downplay it.  

[bad_teammate 13132]

1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

“Hey guys, I know what will work: let’s be an American version of German Communists, circa 1930!”

Well, yes. Obviously.

Wait... is this intended be be ironic/mocking?

[Doc Sam Beckett 5782]

8 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

9 hours ago, Lobo said:

Segura is not funnier than Mulaney.  Never saw the two of them mentioned together, but John is funnier.  
 

You're wrong, but so is this topic for this thread

 

This is where I really miss being able to leave comments in rep.... 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11806]

17 minutes ago, Dertyberd said:

They were all created in the same place or coordinated by the same leadership.  That's how it works and why so many idiots and olds fell for it.  

The micro targeting done with the help of the Manafort polling data made it very effective.  This was not a few Facebook ads as they say when trying to downplay it.  

I've found it kind of odd that the Hamilton 68 russian troll tracking site/dashboard has been down since before the election last year. Or for a quite a while.  They keep saying there's a version 2.0 coming out but it never has.

[BrickHorn 18186]

20 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Well, yes. Obviously.

Wait... is this intended be be ironic/mocking?

No, not at all.  The German Communists were wildly successful in stemming the tide of Naziism, and did not merely play the role of hapless patsies used to advance Hitler’s agenda.  

[4th&Five 41457]

 

[Js1 85095]

RIP, your inbox and comments, Sue Bird. 

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

Having a normal one.

Is this is attempt at getting Rs to move to Texas and Florida in the next year because he knows both states are in play?

[Smax 3800]

14 hours ago, Mojo Hand said:

What, a Trump cultist doesn't agree?  I'm shocked! 

jfc...

[bad_teammate 13132]

15 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

No, not at all.  The German Communists were wildly successful in stemming the tide of Naziism, and did not merely play the role of hapless patsies used to advance Hitler’s agenda. 

I would absolutely love to read your explanation of what you think you mean by this.

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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

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What perspective is this from, BrickHorn?

[Dertyberd 394]

7 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

I've found it kind of odd that the Hamilton 68 russian troll tracking site/dashboard has been down since before the election last year. Or for a quite a while.  They keep saying there's a version 2.0 coming out but it never has.

Lulz.  I wish I had a funny quip to respond with.  It's been fucking painful to see the media and political scientists drop the ball on this. Sure, the regimes outright denial of our intelligence services findings help throw a big wrench in things, but it is amazing that we're two plus year into this and folks are just now "hearing" that it happened.  

Fun job for the next 16 months would be on the cyber warfare teams, assuming the regime hasn't already compromised our defenses.  It appears the R's in congress haven't done much to bolster our defenses.  

Can't wait to read about Kamala's Underground Railroad for illegal immigrants.  It's coming.    

[BrickHorn 18186]

You’re missing the point, bad_teammate.  I don’t side with the right wing.  To the contrary, I would very much like to see them trounced.  

If you want to fail in defeating the right wing, by all means use the tactics German Communists employed.  Get fucking run over by the right wing and used as a convenient scapegoat to sway public opinion in favor of evil.  That’ll show ‘em!

On the other hand, if you want to prevail over the alt right, look elsewhere for strategic inspiration.

And study history, for Christ’s sake.

Edited July 2, 2019 by BrickHorn

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

The right likes to use Antifa as controlled opposition by portraying them as a violent terrorist group.   They are not.  

The antifa we see in the media is mostly just a bunch of sexually frustrated antisocial hooligans.  They don’t have a dangerous ideology or a strong organizational structure.  There is no real leader in the antifa movement, if you want to call it a movement.  

Anti-fascist should be the default setting of all good American citizens.  The right distorts this default setting by demonizing and co-opting some antifa subgroups. 

In short, it’s just a ploy to make the fascists look like the real victims. 

[yoladu 4066]

8 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

i am guessing Tucker and Trump are not a fans of Japan's income tax rate/policies that help keep these cities clean.

Japan's individual income tax rates including local taxes are among the highest tax rates in the world. The effective top marginal tax rate is around 50%.

Edited July 2, 2019 by yoladu

[BrickHorn 18186]

10 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

In short, it’s just a ploy to make the fascists look like the real victims. 

Of course.  Just like the Reichstag Fire was a ploy to make the Nazis seem sympathetic.  But you know what?  That shit worked (for the bad guys).

Dressing up like goons and taking to the streets to shout slogans and hurl rocks might feel good.  It might feel like you’re doing something constructive.  “We’re out here in the fresh air, fighting bad guys!”  But it has absolutely zero positive effect.  And worse, it gifts the real goons a scapegoat and an example to support their #bothsides! propaganda.  It’s an idiotic, immature strategy, doomed to failure. 

Edited July 2, 2019 by BrickHorn

[FondrenRoad 4378]

6 minutes ago, yoladu said:

i am guessing Tucker and Trump are not a fans of Japan's income tax rate/policies that help keep these cities clean.

Japan's individual income tax rates including local taxes are among the highest tax rates in the world. The effective top marginal tax rate is around 50%.

And a 55% inheritance tax rate. Ivanka might have to get a job if she was Japanese.  But the big difference is the willingness of Japanese corporations and business owners to offer a drastically more equal distribution of income from top to bottom.  Trump can't have that private jet and yacht if he pays his janitors a living wage.  

[GW Hayduke 1952]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

And we need to embrace the only people who are actually interested in fighting back: The decentralized group of randoms and misfits who understand what it's like to be the first ones under the boot of angry white boys.

Democrats won't help us.

Bernie bro, Assange bro, guy forced by Dems to vote trump feels the best path forward is to divide the left. Shocking

[BrickHorn 18186]

5 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:

Bernie bro, Assange bro, guy forced by Dems to vote trump feels the best path forward is to divide the left. Shocking

Bad teammate, indeed.

[hayden_horn 11360]

8 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

there are plenty of homeless people in japan. they live in tarped tents in parks all over the place. officially, there are zero, but there are plenty. plenty of graffiti as well. this dude just talks out of his ass. and yes, the cities are cleaner, but that's cultural, in part, but also because people have jobs cleaning, and those jobs are subsidized by tax dollars.

[seven 1366]

Csb: I was accosted by a homeless woman one block from the white house about a month ago. 

[atomheartbevo 89409]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

It’s important to remember what the IRA troll accounts were pushing.  The ones I was following were pumping out some of the most racist and xenophobic messages I’ve ever seen on twitter.  I ended up unfollowing Pamela Moore before the election because her stuff was so offensive/disturbing/misleading.

This is what her profile page looked like in 2016:

 

This was a Kremlin troll account. 

It could resemble just about any twitter account from Lubbock.  

[TexLonghorn 5590]

10 minutes ago, seven said:

Csb: I was accosted by a homeless woman one block from the white house about a month ago. 

"Hey you! Yo mister!  You gotta dollar?  Give me a dollar!"

[4th&Five 41457]

 

[triplehorn 2664]

^^ Only stick to the Report?  There is that little bit of interest the House has in clarifying the interactions between Mueller and Barr.  Last night Nadler flat out called out Trump and Barr for their abject lying.  

[Biff Tannen 45491]

Please let him come out to the parade in military uniform.  Need the fascist checklist to be complete.

[Steamboat1874 4032]

8 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Trump is going to fuck up the 4th of July in DC.

The good news is him and his ilk will not be able to control who gets "in" to hear his bullshit.

I hope there are tons of booing people.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

File this under “no shit” 

[Fozzz 152]

thoughts and prayers

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45491]

3 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

File this under “no shit” 

See, the Russians get it, why don't we get it?

[Chad Fuck 17557]

Trump is going to fuck up the 4th of July in DC.
The good news is him and his ilk will not be able to control who gets "in" to hear his bullshit.
I hope there are tons of booing people.

It’d be better if everyone found another bbq to go to.

[RomaVicta 29775]

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

See, the Russians get it, why don't we get it?

 

Oh, we're getting it.

[Keef 757]

As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

[4th&Five 41457]

but also...

 

[sachick 1189]

It’d be better if everyone found another bbq to go to.

If I were in DC, you couldn’t pay me to go to this thing. It’s going to be a MAGA rally and I wouldn’t feel safe. You can’t tell I’m Mexican because I’m so light skinned but I’m still female and I have no desire to be in a crowd of mouth breathers.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

5 minutes ago, Keef said:

As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

All we need is Trump to go there and say, "You can't do that."  Problem solved, just like he did in DC.

[sasquatch69 583]

3 hours ago, Gooby said:

I think it's usually on PBS.  In light of Trump threatening their funding, they should say fuck it and not show.

PBS' annual Capitol Fourth nonpartisan special is happening independently of the Trump event and has been planned for months, although Trump's team is claiming it as part of their other events (parade, Blue Angels, etc.). 

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

See, the Russians get it, why don't we get it?

A big part of the problem is we lack imagination.    We think nothing bad can ever happen to our America.  That our flag, constitution, military, and economy will always protect us from harm.  That the only real danger is the brown people and the Muslims invading our lands.  

The game has changed with the internet/social media and the billionaire class of subversive forces that weaponize it.  We haven’t adapted to the emerging threats because it’s something that hasn’t happened before, at least not like this.

How can you prepare for a threat that’s never existed or alert others of the danger when no one in this country has experienced the catastrophic consequences? 

[Francisco 2.0 32318]

40 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Please let him come out to the parade in military uniform.  Need the fascist checklist to be complete.

With the appropriate medals and ribbons and gilded epaulets.

 

 

[Fozzz 152]

29 minutes ago, Keef said:

As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

The future liberals want.

[Continental Op 3934]

That was intended as a comment on the general point I was making.  I do think that it is true, as far as proverbs go.  

You mean like when the Senate refuses to bring a Supreme Court nominee up for a vote?

[TornACL 7675]

1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

there are plenty of homeless people in japan. they live in tarped tents in parks all over the place. officially, there are zero, but there are plenty. plenty of graffiti as well. this dude just talks out of his ass. and yes, the cities are cleaner, but that's cultural, in part, but also because people have jobs cleaning, and those jobs are subsidized by tax dollars.

It's like every tired talking point and trope from the 1980s came roaring back to life with the Trump admin and his moron supporters. Which makes sense because Trump was  a product of the bullshit ass 1980s and never left the decade which saw his rise. That's why all his references to famous people are always old as fuck 1980s has beens. Like feuding with Bette Fucking Midler of all people. 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5782]

45 minutes ago, Keef said:

As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

So parts of a major US city are disgusting and other parts are really nice? Shocking 

[Keef 757]

1 minute ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

So parts of a major US city are disgusting and other parts are really nice? Shocking 

I've spent time in most major US cities.  San Francisco is the worst I've seen.  And I say that as a liberal person who loves living here.  

[RPM 26215]

Veteran organizations to hand out USS McCain shirts during Trump’s Fourth of July celebration

Two veteran-led organizations are planning to honor late Arizona Senator John McCain by handing out T-shirts during President Donald Trump’s Fourth of July speech in Washington.

Rags of Honor and VoteVets are both participating in the distribution of the “Big Bad John” shirts, which feature the destroyer that was named for the late senator’s grandfather and father — before the younger McCain was added last July as a namesake by Navy Secretary Richard Spencer.

Some members of the organization are also planning on passing out shirts at the House and Senate buildings, The Hill reported.

“At this year’s national Fourth of July celebration we’ll be distributing T-shirts that feature the USS John S. McCain," the VoteVets website says.

"We may have had political battles against Senator McCain, but what has bound us together since 1776 — the belief in something larger than yourself — is always worth honoring on the Fourth.”

[Underdog 28446]

49 minutes ago, Keef said:

As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

Alcatraz.  

[Pig Bellmont 8691]

God damnit