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I fucking love this President. My 2 faves during my lifetime are Trump and Nixon. They share a lot of similarities and were besieged by the same groups of assholes. No I’m not trolling. Y’all, the lef

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This.....is magnificent. The "younger generation" is going to have to work double-time to fund YOUR Social Security, which YOUR generation of elected officials raided the fuck out of.  And which,

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Holy shit evangelicals are some dumb-ass snowflakes.  This article lays out pretty much what we've all suspected, but damn...
Why evangelicals love Trump
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The rallygoers (Orlando), he said, told him that Trump’s era “is spiritually driven.” When I asked whether he meant by this that Trump’s supporters believe God’s hand is on Trump, this moment and at the election—that Donald Trump is God’s man, in effect—he told me, “Yes—a number of people said they believe there is no other way to explain his victories. Starting with the election and continuing with the conclusion of the Mueller report. Many said God has chosen him and is protecting him.”
Apparently these folks don't understand confirmation bias.  He's protected because he's filled the courts and his cabinets with a bunch of fanatical sycophants, with the help of the spineless House and Senate GOP.  It's not that hard to figure out.
The fact that they think God, would choose someone like Trump is mind blowing.  Yep, Moses, Jesus, Trump...3 peas in a pod.  Hard to tell them apart, really.
 
Spoiler Last week, Ralph Reed, the Faith and Freedom Coalition’s founder and chairman, told the group, “There has never been anyone who has defended us and who has fought for us, who we have loved more than Donald J. Trump. No one!”
Reed is partially right; for many evangelical Christians, there is no political figure whom they have loved more than Donald Trump.
I recently exchanged emails with a pro-Trump figure who attended the president’s reelection rally in Orlando, Florida, on June 18. (He spoke to me on the condition of anonymity, so as to avoid personal or professional repercussions.) He had interviewed scores of people, many of them evangelical Christians. “I have never witnessed the kind of excitement and enthusiasm for a political figure in my life,” he told me. “I honestly couldn’t believe the unwavering support they have. And to a person, it was all about ‘the fight.’ There is a very strong sense (I believe justified, you disagree) that he has been wronged. Wronged by Mueller, wronged by the media, wronged by the anti-Trump forces. A passionate belief that he never gets credit for anything.”
The rallygoers, he said, told him that Trump’s era “is spiritually driven.” When I asked whether he meant by this that Trump’s supporters believe God’s hand is on Trump, this moment and at the election—that Donald Trump is God’s man, in effect—he told me, “Yes—a number of people said they believe there is no other way to explain his victories. Starting with the election and continuing with the conclusion of the Mueller report. Many said God has chosen him and is protecting him.”
The data seem to bear this out. Approval for President Trump among white evangelical Protestants is 25 points higher than the national average. And according to a Pew Research Center survey, “White evangelical Protestants who regularly attend church (that is, once a week or more) approve of Trump at rates matching or exceeding those of white evangelicals who attend church less often.” Indeed, during the period from July 2018 to January 2019, 70 percent of white evangelicals who attend church at least once a week approved of Trump, versus 65 percent of those who attend religious services less often.
The enthusiastic, uncritical embrace of President Trump by white evangelicals is among the most mind-blowing development of the Trump era. How can a group that for decades—and especially during the Bill Clinton presidency—insisted that character counts and that personal integrity is an essential component of presidential leadership not only turn a blind eye to the ethical and moral transgressions of Donald Trump, but also constantly defend him? Why are those who have been on the vanguard of “family values” so eager to give a man with a sordid personal and sexual history a mulligan?
Part of the answer is their belief that they are engaged in an existential struggle against a wicked enemy—not Russia, not North Korea, not Iran, but rather American liberals and the left. If you listen to Trump supporters who are evangelical (and non-evangelicals, like the radio talk-show host Mark Levin), you will hear adjectives applied to those on the left that could easily be used to describe a Stalinist regime. (Ask yourself how many evangelicals have publicly criticized Trump for his lavish praise of Kim Jong Un, the leader of perhaps the most savage regime in the world and the worst persecutor of Christians in the world.)
Many white evangelical Christians, then, are deeply fearful of what a Trump loss would mean for America, American culture, and American Christianity. If a Democrat is elected president, they believe, it might all come crashing down around us. During the 2016 election, for example, the influential evangelical author and radio talk-show host Eric Metaxas said, “In all of our years, we faced all kinds of struggles. The only time we faced an existential struggle like this was in the Civil War and in the Revolution when the nation began … We are on the verge of losing it as we could have lost it in the Civil War.” A friend of mine described that outlook to me this way: “It’s the Flight 93 election. FOREVER.”
Many evangelical Christians are also filled with grievances and resentments because they feel they have been mocked, scorned, and dishonored by the elite culture over the years. (Some of those feelings are understandable and warranted.) For them, Trump is a man who will not only push their agenda on issues such as the courts and abortion; he will be ruthless against those they view as threats to all they know and love. For a growing number of evangelicals, Trump’s dehumanizing tactics and cruelty aren’t a bug; they are a feature. Trump “owns the libs,” and they love it. He’ll bring a Glock to a cultural knife fight, and they relish that.
Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University, one of the largest Christian universities in the world, put it this way: “Conservatives & Christians need to stop electing ‘nice guys.’ They might make great Christian leaders but the United States needs street fighters like @realDonaldTrump at every level of government b/c the liberal fascists Dems are playing for keeps & many Repub leaders are a bunch of wimps!”
There’s a very high cost to our politics for celebrating the Trump style, but what is most personally painful to me as a person of the Christian faith is the cost to the Christian witness. Nonchalantly jettisoning the ethic of Jesus in favor of a political leader who embraces the ethic of Thrasymachus and Nietzsche—might makes right, the strong should rule over the weak, justice has no intrinsic worth, moral values are socially constructed and subjective—is troubling enough.
But there is also the undeniable hypocrisy of people who once made moral character, and especially sexual fidelity, central to their political calculus and who are now embracing a man of boundless corruptions. Don’t forget: Trump was essentially named an unindicted co-conspirator (“Individual 1”) in a scheme to make hush-money payments to a porn star who alleged she’d had an affair with him while he was married to his third wife, who had just given birth to their son.
While on the Pacific Coast last week, I had lunch with Karel Coppock, whom I have known for many years and who has played an important role in my Christian pilgrimage. In speaking about the widespread, reflexive evangelical support for the president, Coppock—who is theologically orthodox and generally sympathetic to conservatism—lamented the effect this moral freak show is having, especially on the younger generation. With unusual passion, he told me, “We’re losing an entire generation. They’re just gone. It’s one of the worst things to happen to the Church.”
Coppock mentioned to me the powerful example of St. Ambrose, the bishop of Milan, who was willing to rebuke the Roman Emperor Theodosius for the latter’s role in massacring civilians as punishment for the murder of one of his generals. Ambrose refused to allow the Church to become a political prop, despite concerns that doing so might endanger him. Ambrose spoke truth to power. (Theodosius ended up seeking penance, and Ambrose went on to teach, convert, and baptize St. Augustine.) Proximity to power is fine for Christians, Coppock told me, but only so long as it does not corrupt their moral sense, only so long as they don’t allow their faith to become politically weaponized. Yet that is precisely what’s happening today.
Evangelical Christians need another model for cultural and political engagement, and one of the best I am aware of has been articulated by the artist Makoto Fujimura, who speaks about “culture care” instead of “culture war.”
According to Fujimura, “Culture care is an act of generosity to our neighbors and culture. Culture care is to see our world not as a battle zone in which we’re all vying for limited resources, but to see the world of abundant possibilities and promise.” What Fujimura is talking about is a set of sensibilities and dispositions that are fundamentally different from what we see embodied in many white evangelical leaders who frequently speak out on culture and politics. The sensibilities and dispositions Fujimura is describing are characterized by a commitment to grace, beauty, and creativity, not antipathy, disdain, and pulsating anger. It’s the difference between an open hand and a mailed fist.
Building on this theme, Mark Labberton, a colleague of Fujimura’s and the president of Fuller Theological Seminary, the largest multidenominational seminary in the world, has spoken about a distinct way for Christians to conceive of their calling, from seeing themselves as living in a Promised Land and “demanding it back” to living a “faithful, exilic life.”
Labberton speaks about what it means to live as people in exile, trying to find the capacity to love in unexpected ways; to see the enemy, the foreigner, the stranger, and the alien, and to go toward rather than away from them. He asks what a life of faithfulness looks like while one lives in a world of fear.
He adds, “The Church is in one of its deepest moments of crisis—not because of some election result or not, but because of what has been exposed to be the poverty of the American Church in its capacity to be able to see and love and serve and engage in ways in which we simply fail to do. And that vocation is the vocation that must be recovered and must be made real in tangible action.”
There are countless examples of how such tangible action can be manifest. But as a starting point, evangelical Christians should acknowledge the profound damage that’s being done to their movement by its braided political relationship—its love affair, to bring us back to the words of Ralph Reed—with a president who is an ethical and moral wreck. Until that is undone—until followers of Jesus are once again willing to speak truth to power rather than act like court pastors—the crisis in American Christianity will only deepen, its public testimony only dim, its effort to be a healing agent in a broken world only weaken.
At this point, I can’t help but wonder whether that really matters to many of Donald Trump’s besotted evangelical supporters.
 


the words and deeds of the prophet Amos is an oft-overlooked, despite canonical enshrinement.

they would do well to learn up on who is was, what he said and what he did.

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The Lord our God has apparently consistently chosen a bunch of Raw Dogging Dudes.  Only variance in his plan is whether those fucked by his chosen leaders are little boys or porn stars under the cloak of adultery.  The good works of your faith can't save you now, you fucking demonic apologists.  What happens next is on you.....

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Damn,  @KyrieEleison that article is depressing and horrifying.

And if you’re actually a Christian believer, and involved with the faith, it’s even more so.
He’s not kidding - American Christianity is losing an entire generation. Watching the loudest factions of American Christianity smear hypocritical feces all over themselves as they shout about what good Christians they are is a sure-fire recipe for young people saying “nope, no thanks.”

My wife’s mission call is to that demographic. It’s a challenging, and often depressing, call.
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47 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

The degree to which the right is driven by pure hatred is incredible.  And the "religious" right more than anyone. 

Ignorance -> Fear -> Intolerance -> Hate

It's the foundation on which the framework of their entire worldview is based.

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7 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The funny thing about the Russian attack in 2016 is the people that took it seriously and learned their tactics/methods were mostly democrats and independents while the Trumpkins screamed “nothingburger!” and ignored it every day.

Something tells me the republicans are in for a rude awakening in 2020.

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Rommel, you magnificent bastard.  I read you book!

 

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


And if you’re actually a Christian believer, and involved with the faith, it’s even more so.
He’s not kidding - American Christianity is losing an entire generation. Watching the loudest factions of American Christianity smear hypocritical feces all over themselves as they shout about what good Christians they are is a sure-fire recipe for young people saying “nope, no thanks.”

My wife’s mission call is to that demographic. It’s a challenging, and often depressing, call.

I've stopped trying to find a church for myself and my kids.  The headwinds are too strong.  I know what I believe, but I can't in good conscience espouse those beliefs to others with any conviction.  My own beliefs are wavering. 

To say that this is "depressing" would be an understatement.

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39 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I've stopped trying to find a church for myself and my kids.  The headwinds are too strong.  I know what I believe, but I can't in good conscience espouse those beliefs to others with any conviction.  My own beliefs are wavering. 

To say that this is "depressing" would be an understatement.

 

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chill, it's ok
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7 hours ago, Mojo Hand said:

The video is incredible 

Cubans pissed about immigrants, supporting white supremacy, and demanding we preserve the “integrity” of this country....

BTW, I am really starting to really understand the Trumpian argument of “he talks like us!”

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Cubans pissed about immigrants, supporting white supremacy, and demanding we preserve the “integrity” of this country....
BTW, I am really starting to really understand the Trumpian argument of “he talks like us!”

You get it. Trump is breathtakingly stupid...and so are most Americans. A person of median intelligence is pretty close to a complete fucking moron. And half of Americans are even dumber than that.
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“Trump” is just “cunt” spelled by other means.
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And if you’re actually a Christian believer, and involved with the faith, it’s even more so.
He’s not kidding - American Christianity is losing an entire generation. Watching the loudest factions of American Christianity smear hypocritical feces all over themselves as they shout about what good Christians they are is a sure-fire recipe for young people saying “nope, no thanks.”

My wife’s mission call is to that demographic. It’s a challenging, and often depressing, call.

They should disappear.
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We’re broke again!

Washington(CNN)The US Department of Agriculture has suspended data collection for its annual Honey Bee Colonies report, citing cost cuts -- a move that robs researchers and the honeybee industry of a critical tool for understanding honeybee population declines, and comes as the USDA is curtailing other research programs.

It's also another step toward undoing President Barack Obama's government-wide focus on protecting pollinators, including bees and butterflies, whose populations have plummeted in recent years.

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You guys never been around evangelicals before?  They don’t just stop talking about god when bad shit happens. That’s when they talk about the great mystery that is god’s plan, and that we’re not meant to understand it. 

Thats why I wonder about all the praying. God’s plan is apparently pretty malleable such that He can choose to change it based on a prayer.  

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We’re broke again!

Washington(CNN)The US Department of Agriculture has suspended data collection for its annual Honey Bee Colonies report, citing cost cuts -- a move that robs researchers and the honeybee industry of a critical tool for understanding honeybee population declines, and comes as the USDA is curtailing other research programs.

It's also another step toward undoing President Barack Obama's government-wide focus on protecting pollinators, including bees and butterflies, whose populations have plummeted in recent years.


The doubling down on ignorance as we run headlong into a climate crisis is just soooo apropos for this administration.

Every one of these wholly corrupt, regulatory-capturing, tax-cuts-for-me-but-not-for-thee traitors need to be strung up on the national mall.
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1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

We’re broke again!

Washington(CNN)The US Department of Agriculture has suspended data collection for its annual Honey Bee Colonies report, citing cost cuts -- a move that robs researchers and the honeybee industry of a critical tool for understanding honeybee population declines, and comes as the USDA is curtailing other research programs.

It's also another step toward undoing President Barack Obama's government-wide focus on protecting pollinators, including bees and butterflies, whose populations have plummeted in recent years.

These socialists bees need to pull themselves by their antennas and grow up 

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