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TornACL

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1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

Republican porn.

That video is full of snippets of racists, so I don't know if the full video shows any bystanders standing up to those pieces of shit. 

As I see it, anyone who witnesses shit like that and sits by and stays silent is culpable. 

Don't stand by like a little bitch and film it on your phone. Stand up and tell those people to go fuck themselves and to stop being a racist piece of shit. 

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I fucking love this President. My 2 faves during my lifetime are Trump and Nixon. They share a lot of similarities and were besieged by the same groups of assholes. No I’m not trolling. Y’all, the lef

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This.....is magnificent. The "younger generation" is going to have to work double-time to fund YOUR Social Security, which YOUR generation of elected officials raided the fuck out of.  And which,

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28 minutes ago, TornACL said:

That video is full of snippets of racists, so I don't know if the full video shows any bystanders standing up to those pieces of shit. 

As I see it, anyone who witnesses shit like that and sits by and stays silent is culpable. 

Don't stand by like a little bitch and film it on your phone. Stand up and tell those people to go fuck themselves and to stop being a racist piece of shit. 

So much this

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1 hour ago, TornACL said:

Don't stand by like a little bitch and film it on your phone. Stand up and tell those people to go fuck themselves and to stop being a racist piece of shit. 

I don't know about that. 

Filming it and putting their racist shit on blast may be the safer thing to do. 

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12 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

You are obviously a reluctant trump voter. On behalf of surly, I would like to know how we can appeal to you? 

1) stop promoting candidates that promise executive action on gun control. Kamala especially has harped on this. 

2) nominate a candidate that doesn’t embrace the US foreign policy orthodoxy. It’s telling that basically the only time Surly and the political establishment applaud Trump is when he’s bombing Syria or otherwise taking aggressive stances in foreign policy.  (Bernie? Tulsi? Lol)

3) address the border situation in a common sense way. Congrats you’ve gotten past the point where you act like it’s a “manufactured crisis”. Now how about less grandstanding about illegal immigration not being illegal or illegal immigrants should get more benefits than citizens already here. 

Those are just a few things that popped in my head first, but I am merely one reluctant Trump voter. I think all 3 of those would apply to most though with varying importance for different people.

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18 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

1) stop promoting candidates that promise executive action on gun control. Kamala especially has harped on this. 

2) nominate a candidate that doesn’t embrace the US foreign policy orthodoxy. It’s telling that basically the only time Surly and the political establishment applaud Trump is when he’s bombing Syria or otherwise taking aggressive stances in foreign policy.  (Bernie? Tulsi? Lol)

3) address the border situation in a common sense way. Congrats you’ve gotten past the point where you act like it’s a “manufactured crisis”. Now how about less grandstanding about illegal immigration not being illegal or illegal immigrants should get more benefits than citizens already here. 

Those are just a few things that popped in my head first, but I am merely one reluctant Trump voter. I think all 3 of those would apply to most though with varying importance for different people.

It was a joke you mouth breather. We know you and your cult are going to vote for Trump. You have the awareness of a fruit fly. 

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13 hours ago, Captainant said:

Genuinely asking, what evidence or allegations of Omar breaking laws is there? If there was anything at all I'd bet it'd be shat all over every time her name came up

Nothing.  This is simply about:

  • Fast-forwarding the news cycle from from Assange/Russia and Epstein/Acosta
  • Making the 2020 election be a choice between him and uppity brown women
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10 hours ago, SameSame said:

Complete bullshit is right.  You've got to be a flat fucking idiot to believe any of this.

 

 

 

@Crusher, @TtomTerrific, @Johnny Sack, @EMAWesome Think this means you guys. Care to defend this well educated, nuanced, and profound speech as an exemplary sample of American values? I’ll wait. Actually this goes with the “send her back” vid too. Any comments?

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3 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Republican porn.

And his poll numbers are going up. This shit is crazy. And unbelievably disappointing. I never want to turn into a cynic, but it's awfully hard these days.

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7 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

There is no other word for this than pathetic.  Why this happened over a year ago and it didn't make the news enough to be branded in everyone's head is a mystery. 

Because of the onslaught of news and chaos from trump.  It's hard enough to remember what awful thing happened last week, never mind 2 years ago.

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9 hours ago, Rimbo said:

Uhm... they do? I'm not seeing a lot of love for America from the white people who support Trump. In fact, by opposing checks and balances, defending his secret talks with a foreign adversary, and just generally standing against the very values of equality and freedom that are what makes America... well, America, nobody hates America more than white Trump supporters.

Plus, this implies that non white people don't love America. Which is just... well, pretty damn ignorant, ya know?

That's exactly the implication.   And it's going to be one that 40 some odd percent of the US thinks is unassailable and legit.

White man isn't criticizing America.  White man is criticizing all the angry brown fucktards who criticize American.

Brown fucktards criticize the status quo not to improve things.  They criticize because they hate America. 

 

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1) stop promoting candidates that promise executive action on gun control. Kamala especially has harped on this. 
2) nominate a candidate that doesn’t embrace the US foreign policy orthodoxy. It’s telling that basically the only time Surly and the political establishment applaud Trump is when he’s bombing Syria or otherwise taking aggressive stances in foreign policy.  (Bernie? Tulsi? Lol)
3) address the border situation in a common sense way. Congrats you’ve gotten past the point where you act like it’s a “manufactured crisis”. Now how about less grandstanding about illegal immigration not being illegal or illegal immigrants should get more benefits than citizens already here. 
Those are just a few things that popped in my head first, but I am merely one reluctant Trump voter. I think all 3 of those would apply to most though with varying importance for different people.


lol this motherfucker actually thought it was a real question.

we know your unbridled racism and gigantic fear complex would never let you vote D.

next time you have the urge to post some dumb shit like this, just pull up pics of Emmitt Till and beat you’re dick like you normally do you inbred piece of shit.
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It happened again. I try to numb myself to it, but he got me all ragey again. So it's that time again, happens about once a quarter: Fuck Trump. Fuck anybody who supports him. I pray there is a hell so he can burn there for eternity with all of his fake-ass "christian" supporters. I eagerly await the day he dies. I'm opening my best champaign and when I fill up on it, pissing on his gaudy, no-class, gold plated grave. 

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2 hours ago, Asithappens said:

I don't know about that. 

Filming it and putting their racist shit on blast may be the safer thing to do. 

Yea. I've spent most of my life being physically imposing. Often I could just stand up and look at someone being an ass and they'd desist. I've never been in fist fight. Most potential opponents couldn't see beyond my physical presence to realize I was just another soft suburban boy.

So maybe a small percentage of us could make a physical stand that would turn out good. For the rest, bearing witness is also brave and maybe braver. A woman or average size man is at risk of being hurt pretty bad pretty easily. Keep those possibilities minimal where you can.

Taking a video is making a statement.

(Of course, that changes if someone is drowning or somebody's child is cooking in a car on a summer day. Video taping would be very inappropriate in those circumstances.)

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10 minutes ago, Lagunamadre said:

It happened again. I try to numb myself to it, but he got me all ragey again. So it's that time again, happens about once a quarter: Fuck Trump. Fuck anybody who supports him. I pray there is a hell so he can burn there for eternity with all of his fake-ass "christian" supporters. I eagerly await the day he dies. I'm opening my best champaign and when I fill up on it, pissing on his gaudy, no-class, gold plated grave. 

Watching his hate rally last night got me all angry too, because it reminded me of how Obama was the most divisive president in history. 

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38 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Watching his hate rally last night got me all angry too, because it reminded me of how Obama was the most divisive president in history. 

Just the very fact that the president has "rallies" should be a fucking wake up call to this nation.  WTF?  Has any modern president EVER done anything like this?  If anyone can't see the authoritarian and fascist parallels then they are either a) ignorant as fuck, b) really not trying, or c) both.

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19 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Just the very fact that the president has "rallies" should be a fucking wake up call to this nation.  WTF?  Has any modern president EVER done anything like this?  If anyone can't see the authoritarian and fascist parallels then they are either a) ignorant as fuck, b) really not trying, or c) both.

Let's not be too hasty about that. Let's get people representing both sides together on a panel to be sure we give the accused fascists equal time even if they spew lies that they know are lies.

Let's give the issue it's four or five hours and then set that piece of sausage aside so we can grind on another piece: maybe four days of round table discussion on how the Medicare issue may harm the Dems or if we are using the term concentration camp accurately to describe the concentration camps filled with people seeking asylum.

We'll wrap it all up with a couple of man on the street interviews where casual idiots can reduce conversation about the fate of the republic to emotional ramblings about shit that doesn't matter.

Maybe the Yellowstone Caldera will explode and erase the embarrassment of America's last decades.

(But Roma, what's your solution? Iron fucking cage. North Atlantic. Winter.) 

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So Hope Hicks, who is currently VP of Communications at FOX News,  committed perjury, obstruction of justice, and federal election law violations?  

Those were actually prerequisites for the position on the job posting.

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1 minute ago, Pancho said:

Wow even the panelists on Fox Business (I’m at the gym) are saying trumps disavowing isnt enough  in  regards to those chants last night 

Fuck those fucking fucks.  They happily rode the Trump train all the way to this waypoint.  They enabled it and created it.  They own it.  They can go to hell along with him....

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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Yea. I've spent most of my life being physically imposing. Often I could just stand up and look at someone being an ass and they'd desist. I've never been in fist fight. Most potential opponents couldn't see beyond my physical presence to realize I was just another soft suburban boy.

So maybe a small percentage of us could make a physical stand that would turn out good. For the rest, bearing witness is also brave and maybe braver. A woman or average size man is at risk of being hurt pretty bad pretty easily. Keep those possibilities minimal where you can.

Taking a video is making a statement.

(Of course, that changes if someone is drowning or somebody's child is cooking in a car on a summer day. Video taping would be very inappropriate in those circumstances.)

That's solid advice.

I've been told I can be intimidating, as well.  I'm not huge (6' 200 muscular lbs) but I have resting asshole face and I'm also a former boxer.  I haven't been in a street fight in years but I only quit sparing a couple of years ago.  However, I still do 30 rounds a week on my heavy bag. 

I said that to say this.  If something like that happened in front of me, there is no fucking way I wouldn't step in.  Trumpkins have me at DEFCON 2 and I know me too well. 

Part of me really wants to come across an incident like that in progress but a larger part prays it never happens.  

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58 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Just the very fact that the president has "rallies" should be a fucking wake up call to this nation.  WTF?  Has any modern president EVER done anything like this?  If anyone can't see the authoritarian and fascist parallels then they are either a) ignorant as fuck, b) really not trying, or c) both.

So, cognitive dissonance huh?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-psychological-phenomenon-that-blinds-trump-supporters-to-his-racism/2019/07/18/29789344-a8ac-11e9-ac16-90dd7e5716bc_story.html?utm_term=.7a23102f0655

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You guys can give all the reasons you want for staying silent, but if you stay silent just know that you're culpable. And if you're ok with that, that's cool.

I sat by silent during a racist diatribe a year or so ago at a store and it pissed me off so much afterwards that I didn't say anything, that it will never happen again. It wasn't a physical altercation or anything violent. It was just a stupid, ignorant, racist piece of garbage loudly proclaiming her idiotic bigoted beliefs to the world around her. I had a duty to tell her to shut the fuck up and that no one wants to hear it, but I didn't do it. You don't have to be a physically intimidating person, or strapped, to tell someone to shut up. 

Part of the reason why people act like assholes in public is because no one's ever told them not to. 

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Here’s a simple summation on the latest Trump hate:

“Love it or leave it” is and has always been complete bullshit and should be condemned by every elected official in a democracy. It’s anti-democratic and anti-American sentiment.

Piling on top of that shit sandwich is the idea that four women of ethnic origin should go back to their shithole countries. This would torpedo every Presidency since FDR and greatly disrupt politics since ever.

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3 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

Here’s a simple summation on the latest Trump hate:

“Love it or leave it” is and has always been complete bullshit and should be condemned by every elected official in a democracy. It’s anti-democratic and anti-American sentiment.

Piling on top of that shit sandwich is the idea that four women of ethnic origin should go back to their shithole countries. This would torpedo every Presidency since FDR and greatly disrupt politics since ever.
 

Well personally I think trump should ship his own fat ass back to Germany and take his immigrant wife and anchor baby kids with him. We need a mechanism to expel complete and total assholes from this country like trump and his imbecile brood. 

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5 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

Here’s a simple summation on the latest Trump hate:

“Love it or leave it” is and has always been complete bullshit and should be condemned by every elected official in a democracy. It’s anti-democratic and anti-American sentiment.

Piling on top of that shit sandwich is the idea that four women of ethnic origin should go back to their shithole countries. This would torpedo every Presidency since FDR and greatly disrupt politics since ever.
 

yet, the Rs would not leave during the Obama years. I so want a D POTUS just so that phrase can be turned around on them.  

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5 minutes ago, NowThis said:

yet, the Rs would not leave during the Obama years. I so want a D POTUS just so that phrase can be turned around on them.  

Interestingly, I have an acquaintance that claims if the dotard is NOT re-elected she is moving to Mexico.  Yeah, she's not sane.

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19 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

That's solid advice.

I've been told I can be intimidating, as well.  I'm not huge (6' 200 muscular lbs) but I have resting asshole face and I'm also a former boxer.  I haven't been in a street fight in years but I only quit sparing a couple of years ago.  However, I still do 30 rounds a week on my heavy bag. 

I said that to say this.  If something like that happened in front of me, there is no fucking way I wouldn't step in.  Trumpkins have me at DEFCON 2 and I know me too well. 

Part of me really wants to come across an incident like that in progress but a larger part prays it never happens.  

Sadly this is where I am too. 

While I don't enjoy the benefit of looking like the hulk (5'9 about 165), I am a former boxer and powerlifting champion, who still goes to the gym 5 days a week. 

I used to be the type that was perpetually pissed off and looking for a reason to fight.  Fortunately, now that I'm older and have stopped drinking (probably the single greatest factor in my fighting), I've been much better, and happier...no fights in the last 6 years (I'm 48).

But I'm afraid that streak would come to a very sudden stop if I were ever confronted with a racist situation like that.  I hope not, because I'd probably wind up dead, but this shit has me on a razor's edge.

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