Donald Trump 2019

[Ted Lange 16110]

31 minutes ago, retread said:

 

Or.....

[Js1 85445]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

See, this is why I could never be in politics.  I could never respond to this the way Beto did.  My initial reaction would just be a big FUCK YOU, SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER.  That doesn't go over well, so I'm told.

Biff Tannen, he talks just like me! 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

14 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

100% this.  Any shitbag that gives money to Trump gets none of my money.  Ever.

I don't get your position. I've been calling for public shunning of Trump voters as racists for awhile.   (I just think public officials should leave that to activists and citizens rather than doing it themselves.)   I've been arguing that we should treat them like the klan, and that they should be completely written off when it comes to national political strategy.   You've opposed that, arguing that we shouldn't treat them like the Klan until there is a much larger, critical mass of anti-Trump support.  That, until then, we should not publicly shame Trump supporters or write them off politically, but rather try to reach out to them to show them the harmful real-world impacts of Trump's policies on people they care about. 

But then Castro calls out a list of private citizen Trump donors as supporting white supremacy and you're like "100% fuck 'em."  Did the shootings change your mind about how we should treat Trump supporters or am I misunderstanding something about your position? 

[lemonlime 5503]

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

How is that an issue?

If I go pick up an order of fries, I like knowing whether some of my $1.79 is going to support someone who fans the flames of violence against my family.  And knowing that, I choose to spend my $1.79 elsewhere, because I DON'T WANT TO FUND MY OWN FUCKING MURDER.  I know, how silly of me.

Yeah.  I don't get that argument.  If I care enough about a candidate to send money supporting him or her, I'd want people to know I support that candidate.  If you're embarrassed to be supporting someone, you should be rethinking the support.  Not getting pissed that people know of the support.

[LonghornJudas 1101]

6 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

See, this is why I could never be in politics.  I could never respond to this the way Beto did.  My initial reaction would just be a big FUCK YOU, SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER.  That doesn't go over well, so I'm told.

You’re right that it’s not a very choice response, but I disagree that it wouldn’t go over well.

Edited August 7, 2019 by LonghornJudas

[retread 2951]

 

[Biff Tannen 45694]

And that's just on twitter.  I don't know how the nominee is going to hold it together on stage in a debate.  How do you not just unleash on him when he starts with his childish behavior and outright lies?

[achooloco 1072]

18 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

no one is saying the information is confidential.  pointing fingers at people so your followers will know who they are supposed to shun is the issue.

Thank them for showing me who is a racist piece of shit? This is a non-issue in every other political cycle. But when dealing with racists and racist supporters, they should be shunned!

[Guest Lobo]

What's a non-partisan site that has kind of a play-by-play of what he's doing in El Paso today?  An itinerary if you will not provided by far left or far right outlets that may opt to skip over some shit?  

[Gap03 3308]

Just now, achooloco said:

Thank them for showing me who is a racist piece of shit? This is a non-issue in every other political cycle. But when dealing with racists and racist supporters, they should be shunned!

And I wouldn't be surprised if a group of D supporters takes the time to distill the donor lists down to summarize the biggest contributors in each state along with a tie to their business interests.  In fact, I think it's just a matter of time, and I'd welcome it.  Time for some of the transparency to be put to use.

[jimmyjazz 45997]

21 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

no one is saying the information is confidential.  pointing fingers at people so your followers will know who they are supposed to shun is the issue.

You know, Lance Armstrong is a piece of shit, but as the point man in charge of a burgeoning charity even he was smart enough to never take a public political stance.  If these business owners and pillars of the community donate to Donald Trump, I would like to know about it.  Castro just did the legwork.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I'm gonna vote with my fucking dollars and these assholes can sit and spin.  As I said yesterday, fuck 'em.

[achooloco 1072]

1 minute ago, Gap03 said:

And I wouldn't be surprised if a group of D supporters takes the time to distill the donor lists down to summarize the biggest contributors in each state along with a tie to their business interests.  In fact, I think it's just a matter of time, and I'd welcome it.  Time for some of the transparency to be put to use.

I’d love one for queens. I’ll gladly spend my money elsewhere, and by word of mouth, tell everyone I know not to spend their money at trump supporting places. Ain’t a damn thing wrong morally, ethically, or legally with that approach. 

[Brisketexan 105162]

1 minute ago, achooloco said:

I’d love one for queens. I’ll gladly spend my money elsewhere, and by word of mouth, tell everyone I know not to spend their money at trump supporting places. Ain’t a damn thing wrong morally, ethically, or legally with that approach. 

Choosing where to spend our money is one of the most democratic, capitalist, choices we can make.  Why does the GOP oppose this?  WHY IS THE GOP SOCIALIST???????

[immamac 42872]

At what point does this turn into a national revolt or uprising? We are on the brink I feel.

[Biff Tannen 45694]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

At what point does this turn into a national revolt or uprising? We are on the brink I feel.

It does feel like the frog is getting pretty hot.

[jimmyjazz 45997]

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

At what point does this turn into a national revolt or uprising? We are on the brink I feel.

Nah, I think emotions will fade a bit and then a new outrage will take its place.

[immamac 42872]

IDK dude - he keeps throwing fuel on the fire. I think we are almost to critical mass 

[BradInATX 9208]

9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

You know, Lance Armstrong is a piece of shit, but as the point man in charge of a burgeoning charity even he was smart enough to never take a public political stance.  If these business owners and pillars of the community donate to Donald Trump, I would like to know about it.  Castro just did the legwork.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I'm gonna vote with my fucking dollars and these assholes can sit and spin.  As I said yesterday, fuck 'em.

I would bet every cent I have that Lance is right wing af and loves him some Trump. Pieces of shit of a feather..

Edited August 7, 2019 by BradInATX

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

I think we are reeeaaaallll close. And the way the stats are showing, we could have another significant shooting within a month. And Trumps rhetoric will just get worse and worse as he is looking to fight for his life in remaining President. 

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

El Paso reaction does seem like it is different from the other mass shootings.  Probably because the dude's manifesto being basically a copy-and-paste of Trump's speeches.  I think the reaction will be more permanent.  That's why there are reports of the admin meeting with the NRA.  They're trying to pre-clear some action with them.

[immamac 42872]

I really want the UN to get involved and condemn Trump after Mexico sues. 

This is way different than other shootings - this is tied directly to our President and the guy IS STILL ALIVE TO TALK ABOUT IT

[Biff Tannen 45694]

1 minute ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

I think we are reeeaaaallll close. And the way the stats are showing, we could have another significant shooting within a month. And Trumps rhetoric will just get worse and worse as he is looking to fight for his life in remaining President. 

If it gets worse and people start fighting back, what better reason to enact martial law and give yourself emergency powers?

[Guest Lobo]

You could make an hour-long game show out of showing sentences from his manifest and also sentences from Trump speeches/tweets.  And then ask the contestant to guess who said which quote?  It'd be pretty hard.  

 

Anyway, I love the balls on Rep. Castro posting that list and then doubling down when Trumpkins were calling it reckless and unfair to boycott businesses based on political beliefs (I'm gonna take a shit at a Chik-Fil-A today just 'cause).  Having said that, where the fuck is the actual list?  I can't find it on google, all it brings up is hundreds or articles about the GOP/Castro spat.  

[retread 2951]

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

If it gets worse and people start fighting back, what better reason to enact martial law and give yourself emergency powers?

Yep. The next manifesto could cite Cheeto by name and he wouldn't care. He would keep saying that it's not his fault and that he's just trying to protect our country.

He looooves the chaos.

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

If it gets worse and people start fighting back, what better reason to enact martial law and give yourself emergency powers?

Ugh, didn't think of that. Think there is enough support in the military to do his bidding? 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

5 minutes ago, immamac said:

IDK dude - he keeps throwing fuel on the fire. I think we are almost to critical mass 

It will happen if there are several more mass murders.   But I don't think people start rising up with demonstrations unless their lives are really on the line, like in 1968.

[lemonlime 5503]

Just now, SmokeyTheBear said:

Ugh, didn't think of that. Think there is enough support in the military to do his bidding? 

Yes.  Not sure about with the officers at this point and after his cozying to NK, etc.  But among the rank and file absolutely.  

[RomaVicta 29943]

Again asked with horror:

Which way does the Army lean?

[sachick 1189]

10 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

I don't understand why white people are the ones most offended that Beto goes by the nickname Beto. It really does bother them. Mexicans understand that your white friend basically became Mexican when he hung out with you and your family and therefore picked up Mexican nick names.

[Brisketexan 105162]

10 minutes ago, immamac said:

At what point does this turn into a national revolt or uprising? We are on the brink I feel.

We're not.  We're too lazy.

And it doesn't take a revolt, storming the Bastille, that sort of thing.  We just need to take a page from the book of several Euro democracies.  We need a massive general strike.  Shut down highways.  Block railroads and bridges.  Overwhelm the authorities -- they can't arrest EVERYONE for blocking a roadway.  Make them teargas mothers and their kids standing arm-in-arm, blocking a highway.  Shut it down.  Shut it all down.

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

If it gets worse and people start fighting back, what better reason to enact martial law and give yourself emergency powers?

And that's what he'll do.  Cops will attack people, somebody will swing back, he'll go "SEE!  ANTIFA IS AT WAR WITH US!" and send troops and tanks into the streets.

And that, friends, is where the shit gets real....

[jimmyjazz 45997]

1 minute ago, lemonlime said:

Yes.  Not sure about with the officers at this point and after his cozying to NK, etc.  But among the rank and file absolutely.  

Officers are moving away from Trump and have been doing so for awhile.  Rank and file must follow their orders.

Besides, they take an oath to defend the Constitution, not the Commander-in-Chief.  I don't think the military will stand for illegal orders.

[Js1 85445]

2 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

It will happen if there are several more mass murders.   But I don't think people start rising up with demonstrations unless their lives are really on the line, like in 1968.

It's going to take an assassination of a public official to really hit the mark with the general public.  

[Brisketexan 105162]

2 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Again asked with horror:

Which way does the Army lean?

And yes....this is a question that actually needs to be asked.  That's fucking chilling.

Just now, sachick said:

I don't understand why white people are the ones most offended that Beto goes by the nickname Beto. It really does bother them. Mexicans understand that your white friend basically became Mexican when he hung out with you and your family and therefore picked up Mexican nick names.

And absolutely this.  My family has deep S. Texas roots and connections.  I've know plenty of white Betos and Chuys and such.  Most of 'em can speak decent spanish, and they sure as shit know how to stand around the BBQ pit drinking beer and telling lies with the rest of us.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5795]

13 minutes ago, achooloco said:

I’d love one for queens. I’ll gladly spend my money elsewhere, and by word of mouth, tell everyone I know not to spend their money at trump supporting places. Ain’t a damn thing wrong morally, ethically, or legally with that approach. 

Absolutely. 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11819]

43 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

And Don Jr was on Fox this morning wailing about how dangerous the "Lefts" games are when creating harassment lists like what Castro provided. 

Local radio was denying that Trump ever used the word or term "invasion".  Flat out lying, and there isn't anything you can do about it.

[lemonlime 5503]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Officers are moving away from Trump and have been doing so for awhile.  Rank and file must follow their orders.

Besides, they take an oath to defend the Constitution, not the Commander-in-Chief.  I don't think the military will stand for illegal orders.

Some officers will resign or will be forced out.  Trump as commander in chief will promote the most sycophantic people in the military he can find (and there are plenty from which he can choose).

 

[sachick 1189]

 

 

10 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Beto’s response -
 

 

I hope there’s a huge crowd that protests his visit tomorrow.

 

You know Beto just wanted to respond with a "Shut the fuck up asshole"

[DDD Dad 14344]

Just now, sachick said:

 

 

You know Beto just wanted to respond with a "Shut the fuck up asshole"

He kinda did.

[Js1 85445]

1 minute ago, lemonlime said:

Some officers will resign or will be forced out.  Trump as commander in chief will promote the most sycophantic people in the military he can find (and there are plenty from which he can choose).

 

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Stephen Miller, reporting for duty.

Trump will wave his hand and turn him into a 6 star general. 

[Hank Kingsley 20991]

16 minutes ago, immamac said:

IDK dude - he keeps throwing fuel on the fire. I think we are almost to critical mass 

It feels like this at least once on month with Trump. Shit keeps building and building to the point where you think something will happen. And then it fades away. 

Frankly, I blame the Democratic members of Congress. They have absolutely zero discipline. Want to do something about gun control? Gather every fucking D Senator on the steps of the U.S. Capitol and demand a vote. Make a spectacle out of it.  Stop tweeting and take action. 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2019 by Hank Kingsley

[Nivek 16946]

I don't understand why white people are the ones most offended that Beto goes by the nickname Beto. It really does bother them. Mexicans understand that your white friend basically became Mexican when he hung out with you and your family and therefore picked up Mexican nick names.

They are not offended. They just don’t have anything else to complain about. My mother knows all about “pocahantas” Warren but had no idea how she dedicated her efforts for consumer protections. She seemed to like what she did after I told her.

Fucking lazy ass tv voters who watch fox and oan. It isn’t hard to learn about candidates.

[yoladu 4094]

1 hour ago, retread said:

 

He can't do it. He is just incapable of doing it.

[Chuckie Finster 22702]

7 minutes ago, sachick said:

I don't understand why white people are the ones most offended that Beto goes by the nickname Beto. It really does bother them. Mexicans understand that your white friend basically became Mexican when he hung out with you and your family and therefore picked up Mexican nick names.

They're not offended.  They just see what they think is an opportunity to score political points and potentially bring people to their side, so they act offended.  No different than their faux antisemitism outrage anytime Israel is mentioned.

[Nivek 16946]

 
 
You know Beto just wanted to respond with a "Shut the fuck up asshole"

He should challenge him to a race. Trump would drop dead of a heart attack before he made it 1/2 a mile.

[Chuckie Finster 22702]

2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

It feels like this at least once on month with Trump. Shit keeps building and building to the point where you think something will happen. And then it fades away. 

Frankly, I blame the Democratic members of Congress. They have absolutely zero discipline. Want to do something about gun control? Gather every fucking D Senator on the steps of the U.S. Capitol and demand a vote. Make a spectacle out of it.  Stop tweeting and take action. 

 

 

It's time to take it to 11.  Beto has already established that genuine outrage connects with the public.  Lose your shit during the debates.  Demand a vote on gun control.  Put the R's on the defensive for once.

[jimmyjazz 45997]

2 minutes ago, Nivek said:

He should challenge him to a race. Trump would drop dead of a heart attack before he made it 1/2 a mile.

LOL.  The idea of Trump running 100 yards much less a half mile is comical.  The Benny Hill theme could be the hype video soundtrack, though.

[DDD Dad 14344]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

LOL.  The idea of Trump running 100 yards much less a half mile is comical.  The Benny Hill theme could be the hype video soundtrack, though.

fify

[Hank Kingsley 20991]

Just now, Chuckie Finster said:

It's time to take it to 11.  Beto has already established that genuine outrage connects with the public.  Lose your shit during the debates.  Demand a vote on gun control.  Put the R's on the defensive for once.

Exactly. This isn't a difficult. NINETY PERCENT of American citizens want stricter gun control legislation. What a fucking opportunity to have every D Senator back in D.C. DEMANDING a vote. "We are here because we want to save American lives."

It makes Trump look bad, the GOP look bad, and strengthens the chance of flipping the Senate. 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Yeah fuck an election at this point.

How about the winner of a mile run wins?

Or lowest BP or A1C?

[pyrohornIII 4816]

18 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

If it gets worse and people start fighting back, what better reason to enact martial law and give yourself emergency powers?

 

14 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Again asked with horror:

Which way does the Army lean?

I think the first wave would be the national guard, and you know all these red states are itching to send their guard into POC areas.  Of course none of those governors would go into the fray, offering how their leadership is too important in the situation room.

 

Brisket has it right, it has to be some peaceful type movement.  But it has to be done en masse.   Unfortunately, because the rural areas are so red, most demonstrations are going to be localized to urban areas.