Donald Trump 2019

[Guest Lobo]

Michael Thompson better be careful, Pence is a Hoosier.  He'll shut this shit down yesterday just because he fucking hates Purdue.  The IU-Purdue relationship is not unlike UT-A&M, one has a beautiful campus with beautiful women near a major city with fantastic schools and departments across the board.  The other is in a small city, with a rather utilitarian campus with thick women (no Vic), and has the state's best vet school (Purdue's may the best in the nation).  The one thing Purdue does exceptionally well is engineering.  Growing up in the Midwest, there wasn't a company between Pittsburgh and Denver that didn't advertise the fact that they "Have a Purdue Engineer working on xyz."  It remains a huge badge of honor.  

And this Michael Thompson is an excellent example of that.  

[4th&Five 41444]

 

Edited September 3, 2019 by 4th&Five

[ConferenceRoom 6123]

Don’t go tossin’ your stones around.

You must have been high.

Seriously though, his brain has worms.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20334]

Trump allies raise money to target reporters from the NY Times etc...

https://www.axios.com/2020-presidential-campaign-trump-allies-journalists-6733432f-b008-45d3-99c2-9dca7931faff.html


Also, I love that the Mayor of London is so easily able to troll Trump.  But then Debra Messing was able to, so I probably shouldn't be surprised.

[Red Five 40574]

I really don't think Trump wants to compare his golfing with Obama's.

But it's not like he will be held accountable or anything, so shit, why not I guess. 

[Brisketexan 104228]

1 minute ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Trump allies raise money to target reporters from the NY Times etc...

https://www.axios.com/2020-presidential-campaign-trump-allies-journalists-6733432f-b008-45d3-99c2-9dca7931faff.html


Also, I love that the Mayor of London is so easily able to troll Trump.  But then Debra Messing was able to, so I probably shouldn't be surprised.

Hey, weren't the Trumpkins all up in arms about the "DANGEROUS DOXXING!" of people who contributed money to Trump....when such doxxing was simply copying and pasting information from the FEC website?  Hmmm....interedasting.

So, these guys are going to dig deep into the private lives of reporters.  Great.  So now we know that your private life is 100% in-play.  Perfect.  I think we ought to start a PAC that does nothing but pay investigators to follow key Trump allies everywhere they go.  EVERYWHERE.  Follow them, photograph them, record them.  Get every detail of their lives down.  When they do a shitty parking job, get that.  When they meet their business partner's "niece," record that.  All of it.  Game fucking ON.

[High Plains Drifter 10961]

12 hours ago, Lobo said:

Lots of lava.  I think...yeah, they said...the most lava they've ever seen.  Tons of lava.  Just tremendous amounts of lava.  One of the most lava'ist eruptions we've ever seen.  Just tons of lava.  So much lava.  Anyway, we're taking care of it.  Of the lava, and the lava to come.  And also the before lava.  Just so much lava.  Wow, fantastic lava.  Not like that, but in the sense that it's such an incredible amount of lava that we're seeing.  I mean, am I right people?  We're handling the situation as the lava continues.  So, great news.  Lava.  

 

In terms of lava, it had the most lava of any volcano ever.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20334]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Hey, weren't the Trumpkins all up in arms about the "DANGEROUS DOXXING!" of people who contributed money to Trump....when such doxxing was simply copying and pasting information from the FEC website?  Hmmm....interedasting.

So, these guys are going to dig deep into the private lives of reporters.  Great.  So now we know that your private life is 100% in-play.  Perfect.  I think we ought to start a PAC that does nothing but pay investigators to follow key Trump allies everywhere they go.  EVERYWHERE.  Follow them, photograph them, record them.  Get every detail of their lives down.  When they do a shitty parking job, get that.  When they meet their business partner's "niece," record that.  All of it.  Game fucking ON.

 

Here I am ... doxx me like a hurricane!

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

Considering how fragile the egos are, it wouldn't be hard to take their digging and lob it right back at them. The attempted intimidation of our press angle should be front and center on every news media that is legit though.

But look at DJ, lashing out at London after the tweet that tweaked him yesterday. On the one hand, I hate to see world leaders doing that to each other, but on the other hand, if you got game bring it because the funny ones make him look worse in the public eye and reveal more about him than any other method. This is a global war without guns and Russia is playing this quite skillfully so let's go out and win it.

As far as the golfing, that is all he has now. Since the 2000 tennis photo went to meme, you never see him do anything but golf. He is not in shape for golf, either, but it is easier to fool people.

[4th&Five 41444]

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33779]

Did I miss anything this weekend?

[Red Five 40574]

I'm just glad we finally have a president who fights with people on twitter. 

[CO Horn 153]

29 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I'm just glad we finally have a president who fights with  routinely gets owned by people on twitter. 

FIFY

[Guest Lobo]

41 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

So our President brought an iPhone to a Knife Fight?  

[henrygandorf 29169]

52 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Hey, weren't the Trumpkins all up in arms about the "DANGEROUS DOXXING!" of people who contributed money to Trump....when such doxxing was simply copying and pasting information from the FEC website?  Hmmm....interedasting.

So, these guys are going to dig deep into the private lives of reporters.  Great.  So now we know that your private life is 100% in-play.  Perfect.  I think we ought to start a PAC that does nothing but pay investigators to follow key Trump allies everywhere they go.  EVERYWHERE.  Follow them, photograph them, record them.  Get every detail of their lives down.  When they do a shitty parking job, get that.  When they meet their business partner's "niece," record that.  All of it.  Game fucking ON.

something something ink by the barrel. 

[threesheets 1651]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

"very inexpensive" huh.  So I guess he's saying he actually pays to play at his own courses.  Because he obviously couldn't comp himself at his own course.  So he pays max green fees, cart fees for a security staff of dozens, fancy lunch at the clubhouse, etc. Wonder who's footing the bill for that.

[threesheets 1651]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

"very inexpensive" huh.  So I guess he's saying he actually pays to play at his own courses.  Because he obviously couldn't comp himself at his own course.  So he pays max green fees, cart fees for a security staff of dozens, fancy lunch at the clubhouse, etc. Wonder who's footing the bill for that.

[Biff Tannen 45439]

Wait a minute.  He's trying to say he "runs" through his courses?  That fat barrel of monkey spunk couldn't run if he was being chased by a pack of rabid wolves.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

To be fair, the game goes much faster when you leave your shanks in the trees and pull out a ball from your pocket to "find" on the green. 

[ConferenceRoom 6123]

He plays like me!

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20334]

Trump is pissing off farmers. Farmers ain't stupid. Republicans politicians in all farm states are going to pay a price:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/03/trump-has-angered-wrong-people-farmers/?noredirect=on

[Brisketexan 104228]

1 minute ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Trump is pissing off farmers. Farmers ain't stupid. Republicans politicians in all farm states are going to pay a price:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/03/trump-has-angered-wrong-people-farmers/?noredirect=on

Stop it.  Just stop.  Stop treating Trump supporters like rational actors.  

Step 1: realize that Trump supporters have joined a cult, and tie their well-being and very existence to Trump's success.

Step 2: realize that means they will never, ever abandon him.

Step 3: see the ledge I've been telling you guys about for two damned years now.  Sure, we'll find a random Trumpist or two who abandons him, but they are outliers.  We are run by a death-cult, filled with death-cultists.  It will end exactly how you would expect.

[SquishMitten 10381]

2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

On the one hand, I hate to see world leaders doing that to each other, but on the other hand, if you got game bring it because the funny ones make him look worse in the public eye and reveal more about him than any other method.

I wouldn't really call the mayor of London a "world leader." Point still stands that it's funny. And terrifying. The POTUS's ego is so fragile, that he can't handle a tweet from the mayor of a city in another country. Also, people are afraid to go outside because of the knife problem! Zing! Hope nobody takes that easy tee-up by commenting on our regularly scheduled mass shootings.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20334]

George Will:  The idiocy of Trump's trade war


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-trade-war-shows-the-reality-of-america-first-in-action/2019/08/23/592c3780-c503-11e9-b72f-b31dfaa77212_story.html

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20334]

24 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Stop it.  Just stop.  Stop treating Trump supporters like rational actors.  

Step 1: realize that Trump supporters have joined a cult, and tie their well-being and very existence to Trump's success.

Step 2: realize that means they will never, ever abandon him.

Step 3: see the ledge I've been telling you guys about for two damned years now.  Sure, we'll find a random Trumpist or two who abandons him, but they are outliers.  We are run by a death-cult, filled with death-cultists.  It will end exactly how you would expect.

 

Why don't you read the editorial and address the points it makes before spouting off like a moron, Brisket?  Then again, it may be that thinking in platitudes is just plain easier for you. 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Horn Under a Bad Sign

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

21 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

I wouldn't really call the mayor of London a "world leader."

That's fair. Kahn is the mayor of one of the largest urban areas in the EU and while most Americans won't know his name, they know London. Trump has called him out before (Kahn is Muslim), so here was a little payback. And it stung DJ. So, while the origin of the phrase is from China, if Kahn, et al provide a thousand cuts with their steely banter, Trump can fall to pieces trying to keep up.

[Chooky 13292]

55 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

George Will:  The idiocy of Trump's trade war


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-trade-war-shows-the-reality-of-america-first-in-action/2019/08/23/592c3780-c503-11e9-b72f-b31dfaa77212_story.html

George Will has never been for sale. 

The other side of that coin is knowing that Mike Pence would happily walk across Ireland with his pants around his ankles if Trump instructed him. 

[Francisco 2.0 32290]

Just now, Chooky said:

George Will has never been for sale. 

The other side of that coin is knowing that Mike Pence would happily walk across Ireland with his pants around his ankles if Trump instructed him. 

Oh, Mike would walk across a room with his pants around his ankles for less than what Trump asked him to do.

 

 

[Hornius Emeritus 12387]

NFMX

Edited September 3, 2019 by Hornius Emeritus

[Hornius Emeritus 12387]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Stop it.  Just stop.  Stop treating Trump supporters like rational actors.  

Step 1: realize that Trump supporters have joined a cult, and tie their well-being and very existence to Trump's success.

Step 2: realize that means they will never, ever abandon him.

Step 3: see the ledge I've been telling you guys about for two damned years now.  Sure, we'll find a random Trumpist or two who abandons him, but they are outliers.  We are run by a death-cult, filled with death-cultists.  It will end exactly how you would expect.

Brisket,  having recently traveled through Texas on a long photo safari, having spoken with numerous farmers, and coming from a small, mostly-agricultural Texas small town, I can assure you that farmers are not the lock-step Trump supporters you seem to think they are.  They are not coal miners or steelworkers.  And your whole "oh God we are so screwed these people can never be dissuaded because they are all part of a mass delusion"  is lazy thinking on your part.  In some agricultural states, Republican victory margins were very small in 2016 and 2018.  I'll guarantee you that we're going to see a significant shift in the farm vote in 2020. 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

Why don't you read the editorial and address the points it makes before spouting off like a moron, Brisket?  Then again, it may be that thinking in platitudes is just plain easier for you. 

I read it.  It made no points other than that farmers are hurting and that they will have the opportunity to vote out Trump and other Rs in 2020.  There's nothing in it to indicate that they actually are or will be doing so.   I'll believe it when I see it.   Until then, all of the actual evidence — like Trump's current 71% approval rating among farmers — supports Brisket's position. 

[RomaVicta 29704]

11 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Oh, Mike would walk across a room with his pants around his ankles for less than what Trump asked him to do.

 

 

You left out "again."

[Lagunamadre 1975]

9 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Brisket,  having recently traveled through Texas on a long photo safari, having spoken with numerous farmers, and coming from a small, mostly-agricultural Texas small town, I can assure you that farmers are not the lock-step Trump supporters you seem to think they are.  They are not coal miners or steelworkers.  And your whole "oh God we are so screwed these people can never be dissuaded because they are all part of a mass delusion"  is lazy thinking on your part.  In some agricultural states, Republican victory margins were very small in 2016 and 2018.  I'll guarantee you that we're going to see a significant shift in the farm vote in 2020. 

The most recent poll of farmers shows that he has over 70% approval rating. This is from a couple weeks ago. So I'd say Brisket is pretty spot on. Some defectors on the margins, but most still support Trump. He can do no wrong. 

https://www.agweb.com/article/farm-journal-pulse-shows-farmer-support-president-trump-eroding

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

9 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

In some agricultural states, Republican victory margins were very small in 2016 and 2018. 

If what you're saying is true about farmers abandoning Trump, it did not make itself apparent in these two elections.  Pick whatever state you want here. https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/missouri/  Look at where the major cities are.  The blue gains were entirely urban.  Maybe it'll be different in 2020.

[Hornius Emeritus 12387]

1 minute ago, Lagunamadre said:

The most recent poll of farmers shows that he has over 70% approval rating. This is from a couple weeks ago. So I'd say Brisket is pretty spot on. Some defectors on the margins, but most still support Trump. He can do no wrong. 

https://www.agweb.com/article/farm-journal-pulse-shows-farmer-support-president-trump-eroding

 

That's down from 79% the preceding month (July). 

[Lagunamadre 1975]

1 minute ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

 

That's down from 79% the preceding month (July). 

"Some defectors on the margins". I would assume/hope most farmers are smart enough at this point  to see what Trump's policies have done to their industry, and yet 71% of them still support him. Cognitive dissonance. 

[Lurch 5918]

I would point out, too, that some of these farmers are being vocal in hopes of changing his tariff policies ONLY. They love the rest of his despicable presidency. I would guess that their threats of voting against him are mostly empty.

[yoladu 4063]

4 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

 

We are killing people in mass numbers left and right in this country, and he is throwing "knife crime" shade at London?

Can you imagine what Londoners must think of Texas alone? In 21 months..

Sutherland Springs(Nov 2017)

Sante Fe HS (May 2018)

El Paso, (August 2019)

Midland/Odessa (Sept 2019)

Edited September 3, 2019 by yoladu

[Jive Turkey 12546]

16 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

I read it.  It made no points other than that farmers are hurting and that they will have the opportunity to vote out Trump and other Rs in 2020.  There's nothing in it to indicate that they actually are or will be doing so.   I'll believe it when I see it.   Until then, all of the actual evidence — like Trump's current 71% approval rating among farmers — supports Brisket's position. 

Yep.  I read it too.  The author states that "the Dems could show farmers x" and "the Dems can point out y" and "the media should focus on z."  Just a bunch of could and should, but nothing suggesting that any farmers are ready to turn on Trump or, gasp, vote for a Dem.  Until there is evidence of that, then this is all an exercise in futility.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

10 minutes ago, Lurch said:

I would point out, too, that some of these farmers are being vocal in hopes of changing his tariff policies ONLY. They love the rest of his despicable presidency. I would guess that their threats of voting against him are mostly empty.

Yep.   Even the marginal decrease in approval shows only that they're expressing some dissatisfaction in an anonymous poll. It doesn't mean they will actually vote for a Democrat.  Both Hillary and Trump received many votes from people who didn't give them good favorability marks.    All of the 71% of farmers who still vocally support Trump will vote for him, and a big chunk of those who don't will say "Well, I don't like the trade war, but he's better than Biden/Warren/whichever Dem, who is gonna turn America brown." 

The farmers should be marching in the streets against Trump.  71% approval after everything Trump has done is insane, even if it used to be a little higher. 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Mojo Hand

[Longhorn_Fan68 33779]

 

[Brisketexan 104228]

1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

Why don't you read the editorial and address the points it makes before spouting off like a moron, Brisket?  Then again, it may be that thinking in platitudes is just plain easier for you. 

What the hell SHOULD I be saying?  Farmers are getting buttfucked by Trump....but they still support him by overwhelming margins.  What that tells us is that NOTHING will get the vast majority of them to change their votes.  All of these articles are the same -- farmers are getting hurt, and they SHOULD be ripe for changing their votes, and the Dems SHOULD try to get those votes.  Whoopee. Data.  Data is what matters.  And the DATA says that by and large, they're sticking with him, even in the face of Trump-inflicted pain.  If that's not your big takeaway on this subject, you're missing the point.

[Loco 3752]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

What the hell SHOULD I be saying?  Farmers are getting buttfucked by Trump....but they still support him by overwhelming margins.  What that tells us is that NOTHING will get the vast majority of them to change their votes.  All of these articles are the same -- farmers are getting hurt, and they SHOULD be ripe for changing their votes, and the Dems SHOULD try to get those votes.  Whoopee. Data.  Data is what matters.  And the DATA says that by and large, they're sticking with him, even in the face of Trump-inflicted pain.  If that's not your big takeaway on this subject, you're missing the point.

That's the danger of having supernatural mysterious invisible friends...

"Jesus loves Trump.  What are you gonna do? murder babies and film gay porn with commies..."

  - paster Phil Indablank 

[Hornius Emeritus 12387]

37 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

  And the DATA says that by and large, they're sticking with him, even in the face of Trump-inflicted pain.  If that's not your big takeaway on this subject, you're missing the point.

 

I would agree with this more nuanced position, but that's not what you originally asserted. 

If this insanity continues to go on you'll see more and more farmers defecting.

 

[Brisketexan 104228]

2 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

 

I would agree with this more nuanced position, but that's not what you originally asserted. 

If this insanity continues to go on you'll see more and more farmers defecting.

 

I said there would be outliers -- there are and there will be.  But someone above asked the right question above -- what, you think they're gonna vote for the gay-loving socialist communist America hater [fill in the name of whoever the Dems nominate, it won't matter, because that's what they'll be defined as by Fox News]?  They will come home to Trump.  That's the way of a cult.  They may express dissatisfaction, they may gripe and grumble.....but in the end, they'll vote for him again.

[Pescado_Rojo 19320]

Best case they just stay home on election day, which works too. 

[Asithappens 974]

1 hour ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Brisket,  having recently traveled through Texas on a long photo safari, having spoken with numerous farmers, and coming from a small, mostly-agricultural Texas small town, I can assure you that farmers are not the lock-step Trump supporters you seem to think they are.  They are not coal miners or steelworkers.  And your whole "oh God we are so screwed these people can never be dissuaded because they are all part of a mass delusion"  is lazy thinking on your part.  In some agricultural states, Republican victory margins were very small in 2016 and 2018.  I'll guarantee you that we're going to see a significant shift in the farm vote in 2020. 

 

Maybe, but I doubt it. 

The farmers will by and large, imo, still vote for Trump. They may complain about him, but they don't have the balls to actually vote for a Dem.

[scottsins 1951]

2 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

 

Maybe, but I doubt it. 

The farmers will by and large, imo, still vote for Trump. They may complain about him, but they don't have the balls to actually vote for a Dem.

5his is likely true, as far as not voting dem.  The goal should be not to flip them, but just get them to not give enough fucks to vote at all.

[Asithappens 974]

1 hour ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

  In some agricultural states, Republican victory margins were very small in 2016 and 2018.  I'll guarantee you that we're going to see a significant shift in the farm vote in 2020. 

You didn't specify, but I'm assuming you mean those margins were "very small" (as opposed to just "small") because FARMERS were voting Dem? (as opposed to most of the state voting Dem with the farmers voting heavily for Trump)?

Is there data on that? I'd like to see it.

Edited September 3, 2019 by Asithappens

[Judge Roybeanbag 11777]

1 hour ago, yoladu said:

We are killing people in mass numbers left and right in this country, and he is throwing "knife crime" shade at London?

Can you imagine what Londoners must think of Texas alone? In 21 months..

Sutherland Springs(Nov 2017)

Sante Fe HS (May 2018)

El Paso, (August 2019)

Midland/Odessa (Sept 2019)

That's 66 people slaughtered.  Doesn't count the wounded, that number is in the hundreds.  That's not total gun and/or knife murders, mind you, that's mass shootings in the last 2 years.

Edited September 3, 2019 by Judge Roybeanbag