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21 hours ago, softlynow said:

Dozens more Trump admin officials should go to prison before the Trumpening is over. They won’t, of course, but it’s worth noting what should happen again and again so the historians who study this period know that not all of us bent over willingly and let this country go to shit. 

Donald Trump should have been dragged from the building and strung up from a light pole the minute he walked off the stage in Helsinki.  The fact that he is a traitor has been further established many times over since then.  And every single remaining Republican at this point is complicit.  Of course, the Democratic leaders of this country are spineless cowards in all this, as has been noted.  

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52 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

Donald Trump should have been dragged from the building and strung up from a light pole the minute he walked off the stage in Helsinki.  The fact that he is a traitor has been further established many times over since then.  And every single remaining Republican at this point is complicit.  Of course, the Democratic leaders of this country are spineless cowards in all this, as has been noted.  

Corrupt elements of GOP control the WH, Senate, and DOJ (Barr).  They own Kav on SOTUS.  Dems control the House.  Dems could be world beaters.  doesn't make a shit right now.

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The moon is not a good launch pad for Mars.   What the fuck are they doing to do, build a bunch of things to haul shit to the Moon, expend fuel landing on the moon, build infrastructure to house the people building the Mars mission equipment, build the Mars transport stuff on the moon, expend fuel getting off the moon, and then Mars.

Better to just build and launch from LEO.

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We're going to Mars.  We're stopping at the moon for snacks and scratch off lottery tickets.  The moon is a launching pad, that's why we're stopping at the moon, aside from the snacks and other shit.  It's also a good place to air out the backseat which will be nothing but bean dip farts by then.  We might get some moon pussy, too, if some moon bitches are lookin' for the D and are all fucked up on box wine and White Claw.  But the main point is that the moon is a launching pad.  Your mom is also a launching pad.  

 

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23 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The moon is not a good launch pad for Mars.   What the fuck are they doing to do, build a bunch of things to haul shit to the Moon, expend fuel landing on the moon, build infrastructure to house the people building the Mars mission equipment, build the Mars transport stuff on the moon, expend fuel getting off the moon, and then Mars.

Better to just build and launch from LEO.

Wrong!  If Trump says we need to stop at the moon then we need to stop at the moon.  Those pencil neck NASA scientists are morons.  I mean, where is the ship gonna gas up?  Have they even thought of that?  You are just gonna drive the ship all the way to mars without gassing up?  You act like a object in motion will just stay in motion which, of course, is ridiculous.

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

The moon is not a good launch pad for Mars.   What the fuck are they doing to do, build a bunch of things to haul shit to the Moon, expend fuel landing on the moon, build infrastructure to house the people building the Mars mission equipment, build the Mars transport stuff on the moon, expend fuel getting off the moon, and then Mars.

Better to just build and launch from LEO.

Well after we built Trump Tower- Moon a Lago, the astronauts will have 5 star accommodations. They won't want to go to Mars.

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5 minutes ago, RPM said:

Well after we built Trump Tower- Moon a Lago, the astronauts will have 5 star accommodations. They won't want to go to Mars.

How far is the moon from Prestwick, Scotland?  I could see various military types staying on the moon on their layovers.  Makes sense.

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5 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Donald Trump is driving this car off the cliff, but the spineless press and the Democrats in congress are riding shotgun.  Fucking cowards, all of them.

 

it is the fuckbucket that is modern day America. the people at the head of the table are retarded, they know it, and you can't do shit about it. vote democrat? lol. pass the gravy fuckboy. 

*turkey starts dancing on the table*

happy?

next week will be even dumber but i am hoping its still nuke free. have a good one friends .

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it is the fuckbucket that is modern day America. the people at the head of the table are retarded, they know it, and you can't do shit about it. vote democrat? lol. pass the gravy fuckboy. 
*turkey starts dancing on the table*
happy?
next week will be even dumber but i am hoping its still nuke free. have a good one friends .
Fuck yeah. No nukes brother.
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I love the timing of the announcement too. Friday afternoon news dump. Thanks Donnie, I remember when the President would go on TV in prime time to at least tell the American people that he was putting them in harm's way. 

 

I'm sick that we're even in this position. Fucking spineless. All of them.

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[mention=511]Hugo Stiglitz[/mention]

I don’t know why but every tweet you post doesn’t show up embedded on my end. And it’s only yours. I can see everyone else’s just fine.

 

Does anyone else have the same issue?

 

I really appreciate the information you bring here and it’s frustrating that I cannot see the tweets you post. I know it’s not a huge deal to click on them and read them on Twitter, it’s just been bugging me that yours are the only ones that don’t embed for me.

 

(Sorry for the derail - it was fresh on my mind when I read your last post so I thought I’d ask about it.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

@Hugo Stiglitz

I don’t know why but every tweet you post doesn’t show up embedded on my end. And it’s only yours. I can see everyone else’s just fine.

 

Does anyone else have the same issue?

 

I really appreciate the information you bring here and it’s frustrating that I cannot see the tweets you post. I know it’s not a huge deal to click on them and read them on Twitter, it’s just been bugging me that yours are the only ones that don’t embed for me.

 

(Sorry for the derail - it was fresh on my mind when I read your last post so I thought I’d ask about it.)

 

 

 

 

 

he lives in a 3rd world shithole, so it's probably his connection

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7 hours ago, Message Board User said:

 

WaPo story Fri late afternoon release:

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Trump on Friday repeated his denial that he has done anything untoward in his conversations with world leaders, but he refused to address whether he had raised the issue of a dormant investigation of a company that previously employed the Democratic presidential contender’s son, Hunter Biden.

“It doesn’t matter what I discussed,” said Trump, who criticized journalists for covering the issue. “It’s another media disaster,” Trump said, even though the intelligence community’s inspector general has assessed the whistleblower complaint as credible and a matter of such urgency that it should be disclosed to the relevant committees in Congress.

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One source familiar with the contents of the phone call said that Trump did not raise the issue of American military and intelligence aid that the administration was at the time withholding from Ukraine — indicating that there may not have been an explicit quid pro quo expressed in that conversation.

The call, however, is part of a broader set of facts included in the whistleblower complaint that is at the center of a showdown between the executive branch and Congress, with officials in the Trump administration refusing to divulge information about the substance of an Aug. 12 complaint to the inspector general of the U.S. intelligence community.

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Other former U.S. officials familiar with the substance of the whistleblower complaint said it alleges that Trump at some point came closer to conveying a proposed quid pro quo. They said the complaint described a “promise” the president made or an offer of some benefit to a foreign leader.

The revelation that Trump pushed Zelensky to pursue the probe of a company with links to Biden, which was first reported by the Wall Street Journal, helps to explain why a U.S. intelligence official who apparently learned about the call felt compelled to file a whistleblower action against the president.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-pressed-ukrainian-leader-to-investigate-bidens-son-according-to-people-familiar-with-the-matter/2019/09/20/7fa39b20-dbdc-11e9-bfb1-849887369476_story.html

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So, it's come to this.  Trump's legal defenses have just been boiled down to the basic premise that he's immune from all criminal investigation.  

https://www.salon.com/2019/09/21/trumps-new-argument-hes-immune-from-all-criminal-investigation-in-new-tax-return-lawsuit/

 

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Lawyers for President Trump argue that the president is immune from all criminal investigations in a new federal lawsuit seeking to block New York prosecutors from obtaining his tax returns.

Trump sued his longtime accounting firm Mazars USA and Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance on Thursday, after Vance's office subpoenaed the firm to demand eight years of the president’s personal and corporate tax returns.

Department of Justice guidelines say a president cannot be prosecuted while in office, as former special counsel Robert Mueller made clear. But Trump’s personal attorneys are now going well beyond that by arguing that he also cannot be “investigated … or otherwise subjected to the criminal process.”

 

 

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The suit also quoted a decision by then-appeals court Judge Brett Kavanaugh, who wrote in 2009 that investigations are “distracting” to the president, even though Kavanaugh himself was part of a years-long criminal investigation of former President Bill Clinton.

Constitutional law scholars told The New York Times that Trump’s lawyers’ position, if accepted by the judge, would “set a sweeping new precedent” but added that the attorneys’ theory was “not based on established case law.” Of course, the Constitution does not actually say that a president cannot be indicted. When Mueller earlier this year said that his office was prohibited from bringing charges against the president, he cited only a memo from the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel as the reason a president could not be indicted. Mueller also said in May that the DOJ “explicitly permits” the investigation of a sitting president.

 

 

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“I think there is some force to the argument that states can’t be allowed to hobble presidents with local prosecutions, but there is certainly no authority for the claim that they cannot at least investigate while a president is in office,” University of Missouri law professor Frank Bowmann III told The Times. 

Paul Rosenzweig, who along with Kavanaugh was a member of special prosecutor Ken Starr’s investigation into Clinton, told Vice News that he does not expect the argument to hold up in court.

“I think it’s clear that the president is engaged in an effort to conceal and delay,” he said. “It’s hard to say whether that’s because there’s something bad there, or because his entire life indicates a general instinct to conceal and delay.”

 

 

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Vance subpoenaed Trump’s tax returns as part of his investigation into Trump’s role in hush money payments made to porn star Stormy Daniels. Trump and his company both reimbursed former Trump fixer Michael Cohen for at least parts of the $130,000 he admitted to paying Daniels to stay quiet about an affair she claims she had with Trump. Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations, along with other crimes, in relation to the hush money payment. Vance is now looking into whether Trump’s reimbursements also violated state laws.

Vance previously subpoenaed the Trump Organization, but after Trump’s lawyers resisted, the DA issued a subpoena to Trump’s accounting firm, Mazars. Trump’s lawyers argue in their court filing that the subpoena should be blocked until after Trump leaves office and accused Vance of a “bad faith effort to harass the president by obtaining and exposing his confidential financial information.”

Trump also sued after Mazars was previously subpoenaed by House Ways and Means Committee chairman Richard Neal, D-Mass., whose committee has very slowly moved to try to obtain the president’s tax returns. 

After Vance’s subpoena, Mazars said in a statement that it will “respect the legal process and fully comply with its legal obligations.”

 

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