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I fucking love this President. My 2 faves during my lifetime are Trump and Nixon. They share a lot of similarities and were besieged by the same groups of assholes. No I’m not trolling. Y’all, the lef

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This.....is magnificent. The "younger generation" is going to have to work double-time to fund YOUR Social Security, which YOUR generation of elected officials raided the fuck out of.  And which,

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the divide means more than anything else. logic has nothing to do with it. while we like to think we are logical beings, we clearly aren't. we make choices every day that fly in the face of things we claim to believe in. everyone does. 

Yep, we aren’t very logical at times.  It’s like you are at your neighborhood park on a weekday morning with your youngest kid,  sitting on a bench and reading Surly while they play, and an attractive mom says “oh, my husband reads that shaggy website all the time.”   You make small talk, just killing time.  She asks how often you come to that park, and you ask the same.  You notice she seems to be there when you are, then you start making plans to be there when she’s there with her kid.  After a month, you both have What’s App installed, because you don’t want your spouses thinking anything weird about random texts from a member of the opposite sex, and you don’t want them seeing text messages popping up on your iPad.  She jokes that she hides What’s App in her health folder on her phone, with all of her running/diet/period tracking apps because her husband will never look there.  Soon you’re exchanging all manner of photos on What’s App, dressed and undressed, and you are comparing notes about when your kids are in daycare, and when her husband is out of town or when he works and when your wife works, and when you work, etc. All the while you’re laughing every time you see a post from her husband on Surly   

Hypothetically it’s easy to make little decisions that fly in the face of what we believe in.  

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President Donald Trump’s 2020 reelection campaign and the Republican National Committee will report raising a total of  $125 million in the third quarter.

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  • The pro-Trump groups, which also include his joint fundraising entities, have raised more than $308 million in total in 2019, and boast more than $156 million cash on hand.
  • That fundraising haul far exceeds the $105 million second-quarter joint total and marks a new presidential fundraising record, according to the Associated Press.

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Yep, we aren’t very logical at times.  It’s like you are at your neighborhood park on a weekday morning with your youngest kid,  sitting on a bench and reading Surly while they play, and an attractive mom says “oh, my husband reads that shaggy website all the time.”   You make small talk, just killing time.  She asks how often you come to that park, and you ask the same.  You notice she seems to be there when you are, then you start making plans to be there when she’s there with her kid.  After a month, you both have What’s App installed, because you don’t want your spouses thinking anything weird about random texts from a member of the opposite sex, and you don’t want them seeing text messages popping up on your iPad.  She jokes that she hides What’s App in her health folder on her phone, with all of her running/diet/period tracking apps because her husband will never look there.  Soon you’re exchanging all manner of photos on What’s App, dressed and undressed, and you are comparing notes about when your kids are in daycare, and when her husband is out of town or when he works and when your wife works, and when you work, etc. All the while you’re laughing every time you see a post from her husband on Surly   

Hypothetically it’s easy to make little decisions that fly in the face of what we believe in.  

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Yep, we aren’t very logical at times.  It’s like you are at your neighborhood park on a weekday morning with your youngest kid,  sitting on a bench and reading Surly while they play, and an attractive mom says “oh, my husband reads that shaggy website all the time.”   You make small talk, just killing time.  She asks how often you come to that park, and you ask the same.  You notice she seems to be there when you are, then you start making plans to be there when she’s there with her kid.  After a month, you both have What’s App installed, because you don’t want your spouses thinking anything weird about random texts from a member of the opposite sex, and you don’t want them seeing text messages popping up on your iPad.  She jokes that she hides What’s App in her health folder on her phone, with all of her running/diet/period tracking apps because her husband will never look there.  Soon you’re exchanging all manner of photos on What’s App, dressed and undressed, and you are comparing notes about when your kids are in daycare, and when her husband is out of town or when he works and when your wife works, and when you work, etc. All the while you’re laughing every time you see a post from her husband on Surly   

Hypothetically it’s easy to make little decisions that fly in the face of what we believe in.  

Is this Dick Nichols Park?  Asking for a friend.

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Yep, we aren’t very logical at times.  It’s like you are at your neighborhood park on a weekday morning with your youngest kid,  sitting on a bench and reading Surly while they play, and an attractive mom says “oh, my husband reads that shaggy website all the time.”   You make small talk, just killing time.  She asks how often you come to that park, and you ask the same.  You notice she seems to be there when you are, then you start making plans to be there when she’s there with her kid.  After a month, you both have What’s App installed, because you don’t want your spouses thinking anything weird about random texts from a member of the opposite sex, and you don’t want them seeing text messages popping up on your iPad.  She jokes that she hides What’s App in her health folder on her phone, with all of her running/diet/period tracking apps because her husband will never look there.  Soon you’re exchanging all manner of photos on What’s App, dressed and undressed, and you are comparing notes about when your kids are in daycare, and when her husband is out of town or when he works and when your wife works, and when you work, etc. All the while you’re laughing every time you see a post from her husband on Surly   

Hypothetically it’s easy to make little decisions that fly in the face of what we believe in.  

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15 hours ago, BradInATX said:

You should seek help. I'm serious.

Hitler murdered six million human beings. You should be ashamed of yourself for even bringing him up in relation to American politics. 

 

DOTARD hasn't murdered six million people, but taking immigrant children away from their parents and putting them in camps where they sleep on the floor and don't have access to toothbrushes and clean drinking water is more than a few steps down the path toward that. The hateful rhetoric and cult followers are a few more steps. Hitler blamed the Jews and homosexuals. DOTARD blames the Muslims and immigrants- more steps. The blatant corruption and disregard for the law-- more steps. The joking about staying in office past 2024- another step or two. Offering pardons to admin officials who break the law- more steps. White supremacists marching openly in the streets- a lot of fucking steps. White supremacists targeting hispanics in mass shootings- a lot of fucking steps. "Good people on both sides"- a lot of fucking steps.

How many steps from genocide do we have left?

Yes, "we". Me, you, all of us are responsible for this.

You are either part of the solution or part of the problem. Accusing Hugo of pearl clutching, or mental illness, is part of the problem.

 

BTW, The people who need to seek help are the ones who don't see how fucking serious this shit it. The people who need to seek help are the ones who don't realize (or care) just how close to outright fascism we are.

I'm not familiar with your posting history, so I don't know where you stand, but you should be attacking the DOTARD cultists and DOTARD himself, not Hugo.

 

 

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3 hours ago, HenryJames said:

We need to decide if we want to keep Trump or keep the Republic because we can’t have both.

Psssst......we've already decided.

Enjoy the Trump dynasty, which will go down in the history books as the most nakedly corrupt/incompetent last days of an empire ever.  We're entering the "strip the house of all valuables, pull out the wiring the get the copper, and shit on the floor on your way out" stage.  You're either with the wealthy looters, or you're fucked.

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Ship be sinking, rats be leaving 

The rats will all be fine. 

Don't forget, the business of the GOP is now officially nothing more than corruption and graft.  And business be GOOD.  Rick will make plenty of money from the graft machine after he leaves.

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38 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I think my favorite spin is that, gosh darnit, Donald Trump just wants to fight corruption!

Donald Trump. Fighting corruption.

Yes, after 70 years of lies, lawsuits, unethical and illegal behavior, DJT has now seen the light and is the beacon of virtue. And every single opponent of his just happens to be morally bankrupt. 

Very believable. 

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"now they no longer mention" except in, like, tens of thousands of stories on this.

 

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Yep, we aren’t very logical at times.  It’s like you are at your neighborhood park on a weekday morning with your youngest kid,  sitting on a bench and reading Surly while they play, and an attractive mom says “oh, my husband reads that shaggy website all the time.”   You make small talk, just killing time.  She asks how often you come to that park, and you ask the same.  You notice she seems to be there when you are, then you start making plans to be there when she’s there with her kid.  After a month, you both have What’s App installed, because you don’t want your spouses thinking anything weird about random texts from a member of the opposite sex, and you don’t want them seeing text messages popping up on your iPad.  She jokes that she hides What’s App in her health folder on her phone, with all of her running/diet/period tracking apps because her husband will never look there.  Soon you’re exchanging all manner of photos on What’s App, dressed and undressed, and you are comparing notes about when your kids are in daycare, and when her husband is out of town or when he works and when your wife works, and when you work, etc. All the while you’re laughing every time you see a post from her husband on Surly   

Hypothetically it’s easy to make little decisions that fly in the face of what we believe in.  

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Yep, we aren’t very logical at times.  It’s like you are at your neighborhood park on a weekday morning with your youngest kid,  sitting on a bench and reading Surly while they play, and an attractive mom says “oh, my husband reads that shaggy website all the time.”   You make small talk, just killing time.  She asks how often you come to that park, and you ask the same.  You notice she seems to be there when you are, then you start making plans to be there when she’s there with her kid.  After a month, you both have What’s App installed, because you don’t want your spouses thinking anything weird about random texts from a member of the opposite sex, and you don’t want them seeing text messages popping up on your iPad.  She jokes that she hides What’s App in her health folder on her phone, with all of her running/diet/period tracking apps because her husband will never look there.  Soon you’re exchanging all manner of photos on What’s App, dressed and undressed, and you are comparing notes about when your kids are in daycare, and when her husband is out of town or when he works and when your wife works, and when you work, etc. All the while you’re laughing every time you see a post from her husband on Surly   

Hypothetically it’s easy to make little decisions that fly in the face of what we believe in.  

 

Hmm. "Hypothetically" of course.

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Mama always told me don't talk to strangers. Now I see why.

Back to DJ: Interesting comment from Rep Zeldin regarding "Schiff's fairytale" and the whistleblower (in DJ's retweet). This is him from the wayback machine in 2015:

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An Iraq war veteran, Mr. Zeldin has denounced Mr. Obama, saying the president is seeking to govern “as a monarch,” and questioned whether the president is “playing for the same team” when it comes to national security.

 

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Yep, we aren’t very logical at times.  It’s like you are at your neighborhood park on a weekday morning with your youngest kid,  sitting on a bench and reading Surly while they play, and an attractive mom says “oh, my husband reads that shaggy website all the time.”   You make small talk, just killing time.  She asks how often you come to that park, and you ask the same.  You notice she seems to be there when you are, then you start making plans to be there when she’s there with her kid.  After a month, you both have What’s App installed, because you don’t want your spouses thinking anything weird about random texts from a member of the opposite sex, and you don’t want them seeing text messages popping up on your iPad.  She jokes that she hides What’s App in her health folder on her phone, with all of her running/diet/period tracking apps because her husband will never look there.  Soon you’re exchanging all manner of photos on What’s App, dressed and undressed, and you are comparing notes about when your kids are in daycare, and when her husband is out of town or when he works and when your wife works, and when you work, etc. All the while you’re laughing every time you see a post from her husband on Surly   

Hypothetically it’s easy to make little decisions that fly in the face of what we believe in.  

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I'll spoiler this inasmuch as it rivals a long cat post for length, but this is an interesting message from the CEO of Penzeys Spices:

 

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It’s the end of the Republican Party as we know it—And we should all feel fine 1f642.png:)

At last, a flat-out good seven days for America. This week the curtain was finally pulled back on how deeply un-American the Republican Party has become. This week made clear the Republican Party’s been hijacked by the one-two combo of unlimited political spending and foreign forces seeking to end the very concept of government of, by and for the people. From just the White House-released summary, the Ukraine scandal is a mandatory open and shut case for the impeachment, but it is also so much more.

From a distance it can be easy to see the forces behind what the Republican Party has become as attacking America’s liberal traditions, but it isn’t that at all. Just the opposite really. Look around; more so than in decades, America’s liberalism is fruitful and multiplying. Penzeys recently got the trademark for “Season Liberally.” As trademarks go it’s probably a pretty valuable one. Truth be told, what the Republican Party has become is entirely an attack on our country’s conservative values. Look at this president; what is conservative about him? Nothing. Nothing at all. And it’s his party now.

The reality is the Republican Party has turned its back on conservative values and has instead come to embrace the “textbook” racism of white nationalism. For the world’s greatest military power to embrace nationalism is scary-dangerous. I’ve always seen our mission as promoting and protecting the kindness found at the heart of cooking. It’s cost us, but I don’t see any way of us being us without standing up to the cruelty the Republican Party is now promoting. The spice business, at its best, can be a gateway to the world of beauty that diversity has created all around us. I want us to be the spice business at its best.

In this moment, we live at the heart of the struggle to defend American values both liberal and conservative. We don’t know what is coming next or even how we got here. Over the decades, one of the things I’ve come to admire most about Cooks is that they don’t need certainties in order to do what is right, they find those in need and take care of them. Still, at some point future historians will have to come up with a consensus of how the values of the Republican Party were rewritten. My take is that it is the propaganda of the media of the right that will take the blame.

We have our Penzeys Voice Of Cooking emails where we try to constantly find new ways to share the goodness at the heart of cooking. You should sign up here: http://spices.penzeys.com/voice.html Part of that voice is standing up to the cruelty to those less privileged that the Republican Party has come to embrace. This means customers leaving us and oftentimes sending me emails explaining why. Here’s a recent one that sums up so well the effect of the propaganda republican voters live within:

“I was going to order some spices but I will not order ever from you. There are millions of people who believe in the ideals of the Republican Party. These ideals are smaller government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, strong national defense, and free markets. They believe the role of government is to give people the freedom to pursue these goals. You can believe what you want and express those views, just as I have the right to not buy anything from you and the right to tell my friends your prejudice against Conservatives and Republicans.”

Carolyn E.

The reality is, the past two years saw republicans holding the White House and both houses of Congress doing the exact opposite of all the things she sees herself as supporting them for. Under republican control, government grew larger than ever before, women’s and minority rights were cut back, debts skyrocketed as we stopped paying our bills, our military’s leadership was undermined as were our allies and NATO, plus as I can tell you personally as a company that brings you the best the world has to offer, tariffs have gone through the roof. Free trade? Good grief.

As a spice business we interact with customers from every possible walk of life. It’s also our job to travel all those less-beaten paths of the world that the spice trade lives along. I’ve found in every new shared experience, in every interaction, there is the chance for change. Whenever you ask yourself why would someone do that, spend some time with them and find out. Maybe you will end up doing that, too. But sometimes as humans we can be the victims of propaganda, sometimes we’ve been intentionally taught to believe in what is not true. This is never easy to overcome, but we must try.

So many of us have loved ones who have fallen into supporting what the Republican Party has become in spite of their living lives radiating the decency their party now attacks. Truth is, there’s little hope in trying to counter a belief that is 180 degrees at odds with facts. That belief is there because of propaganda, and as long as that propaganda is broadcast, that belief will be nearly impossible to shake. This is why in the events of this past week there is so much to be so very excited for.

You may not have been paying much attention this week, but the short version is the end is very near for this terrible turn the Republican Party has taken. The president’s Ukraine scandal is the big one. I get that it can be hard to believe any scandal will stick, but this one is different. This one is going to show you, from its very beginning, our nation has been built up from its bedrock to be ready for any political party that would crown their leader king. America is something special. Looks like now everybody’s going to have a front row seat for seeing why.

The Mueller report was the FBI presenting a case they hoped would give the ten impeachable charges of obstruction they found a fair trial. With that report we discovered that it was not just the president who is guilty of obstruction but the members of his party as well. With the Ukraine charges this is so much more than the FBI asking for a fair trial. This is all the checks and balances of those who were there at America’s founding, and knew the tyranny of living under kings, coming home to roost.

It’s been little more than a week since we first heard of the whistleblower complaint and already the rising wave has engulfed not only the President, but the Vice President, Attorney General and the Secretary of State as well. This is just getting started. While the Republican Party believed itself in the free and clear, it seems those whose jobs it is to protect this country have been on the job all along. Sure seems everything the party has become since Russia’s intervention in the 2016 election has been carefully lined up like dominoes. With the release of the whistleblower complaint the first domino got pushed. Whoosh!

Boats start by sinking slowly, then sink fast. Those on the inside of the party and its media know the main hatchway’s caved in. As the dominoes fall, America will soon be asking why on earth should we buy any product from any company that gives even one cent towards keeping Fox on the air? This is moving quickly. Already Fox is hedging. Already Drudge is asking where’s the beef the president’s promised economic growth?

Now’s not yet the time for counting chickens, but cautious optimism is definitely warranted. Without its propaganda the Republican Party we have come to know is done. Without that propaganda machine we get our loved ones back and that’s worth celebrating. Hooray!

For conservatives, this is your time, too. Haven’t you grown tired of the burden of being with the bad guys on every issue? There is absolutely no reason conservatives can’t be on the good guys’ side when it comes to racism, health care, refugees, affordable accessible birth control, gender equality, and pretty much every pressing issue of today. Conservation was virtually named after you. The forces that twisted conservative values into opposing conservation lost big this week. This is a Victory for every living thing on this planet. Seriously, REJOICE!!!

Our nation’s enemies didn’t co-opt the Republican Party for no reason. America and its voice FOR ever-growing freedom and AGAINST the rule of dictators matters. The work to unravel the corruption that’s taken hold of republican-held branches of government won’t be easy. If liberals have to fix this on their own, they can and will, but it would be awesome to have conservatives pitching in alongside. You guys are hard workers, plus you always bring those cakes we like. It’s time for you conservatives to get off the sidelines and back into the game. Now is the chance to take back your values. The opening is right there in front of you. Please get to it. We have your backs.

Please pass this message along to all that see the value in America or who, with the right encouragement, might have the chance to. And if the opportunity arises, hug a whistleblower. They are keeping all that is good about America alive.

Thanks for your continued support,

Bill

bill@penzeys.com

 

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58 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

That is exactly what Kenya looks like. Kenya is awesome. If I were an ex-president, Kenya is exactly where I would be spending a lot of my time. If I had a Kenyan dad, I'd  be trying to get a Kenyan passport right about now.

Tanzania is a better choice.

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I wish I shared your optimism 

Yeah, any optimism is 100.00000000000000000% misplaced.

I see that CNN mentions that Mitch has a new Facebook ad where he is fundraising from the position that he can stop the impeachment. Absolutely nothing, meaning **NOTHING** will happen in the Senate. Trump will get away with ALL of this absolutely completely. Sorry.

 

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53 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

"now they no longer mention" except in, like, tens of thousands of stories on this.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q="Quid+pro+quo"&rlz=1C1GCEB_enUS859US859&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ACYBGNQjmkv75M0vMoVZCIxotcx7LgkTWw:1570201022760&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwik3b_R7oLlAhVooFkKHTJ_DhIQpwUIIA&biw=1090&bih=773&dpr=1

 

And the quid pro quo doesn’t fucking matter. It’s still a crime.

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3 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

And the quid pro quo doesn’t fucking matter. It’s still a crime.

 

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This. Metaphorically - We’ve got em dead to rights on murder, and proof that they did it for pay. And their defense is....”you can’t prove I was paid to murder him! Case closed!”

No.  Not this.

It does matter.  Not all crimes are impeachable.  Not all impeachable things are crimes.  "High crimes and misdemeanors" does not mean "crime."  You will have a much more vigorous debate -- remember, with 53 R senators -- about the impeachability of this specific crime as opposed to a QPQ.  Crime is neither necessary nor sufficient.

 

There is a legitimate body of law on this, and the more people that repeat "anything is impeachable that we say is" a la Ford or "crimes are impeachable" confuses the issue.

 

I've mentioned it on here several times, but there is a great book you can get that is like 90 pages long and is easy to read from Charles Black.  Also, review articles and what not if you want to read highly technical things.  (here is one  https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?&article=3404&context=penn_law_review )   

 

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29 minutes ago, pantone159 said:

Yeah, any optimism is 100.00000000000000000% misplaced.

I see that CNN mentions that Mitch has a new Facebook ad where he is fundraising from the position that he can stop the impeachment. Absolutely nothing, meaning **NOTHING** will happen in the Senate. Trump will get away with ALL of this absolutely completely. Sorry.

 

Just a reminder that it has been known since the beginning that the GOP senate isn’t removing trump. Trump is only being removed by the electorate in 2020. That has always been the case.

The point of the impeachment inquiry and then the senate trial is to maximize the potential that trump and his GOP protectors lose in 2020. 

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