Donald Trump 2019

[Brisketexan 105161]

4 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

It's on all of us. Our culture gets what our culture deserves. I'd assume that low information voters make up around most of the voters on both sides and that Americans lack an ability to decipher bullshit.

https://www.journalism.org/2018/06/18/distinguishing-between-factual-and-opinion-statements-in-the-news/pj_2018-06-18_fact-opinion_0-27/

 

This is what happens when the value of your education is only geared towards what job you're going to get when you graduate.

This.  We are creating sentient tools, not thinking citizens.  And we're doing so very much on purpose.

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

3 hours ago, GRHorn said:

 

 

56 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Also, eventually down the line something is going to have to be done about Fox News. I don't know what the remedy is but this rot of the brain cannot co-exist with a prosperous nation. It's obvious from those comments they have been indoctrinated by that network's lies. 

 

16 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Good lord that is fucking awful.  Those fucks get what they deserve; too bad the rest of us have to try to pick up the pieces.

 

5 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

It's on all of us. Our culture gets what our culture deserves. I'd assume that low information voters make up around most of the voters on both sides and that Americans lack an ability to decipher bullshit.

https://www.journalism.org/2018/06/18/distinguishing-between-factual-and-opinion-statements-in-the-news/pj_2018-06-18_fact-opinion_0-27/

 

This is what happens when the value of your education is only geared towards what job you're going to get when you graduate.

 

 

 

This is from two years ago.  Pretty fair to assume that this percentage has only gone up since:

 

https://marketingland.com/pew-research-center-says-45-americans-get-news-facebook-228001

 

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Because of its overall reach, Facebook is the most popular social platform for US adults who get news from a social media site. With 66 percent of Americans using Facebook, Pew Research Center says 45 percent of US adults get at least some of their news from the site.

The survey found that of the 45 percent turning to Facebook for news content, half claim it is the only social platform they are using for news.

Following Facebook, the second leading social media site for news was YouTube, with 18 percent of Americans getting their news from Google’s video platform.

 

[Nivek 16946]

It's on all of us. Our culture gets what our culture deserves. I'd assume that low information voters make up most of the voters on both sides and that Americans lack an ability to decipher bullshit.

This is what happens when the value of your education is only geared towards what job you're going to get when you graduate.

The book Factfullness was a fun read and underscored how inaccurate information and bias persists across a wide variety of people and cultures and socio-economic backgrounds.

There is a part where kids were asked to designate and define 3rd world countries and they tended to zero in on data from the 60s even though the kids were all born 30-40 years later.

It is also difficult to be “on” at all times. Work life balance has shifted towards work and keeping ones skills current while managing a family doesn’t leave much time for a whole lot of critical information gathering. It is just simpler to find a talking head to distill it for you.

[David Dennison 18937]

35 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  We are creating sentient tools, not thinking citizens.  And we're doing so very much on purpose.

There are people on this very board, people who graduated from excellent universities, who believe college is a vocational school meant to prepare students for a job.

[ndawg 1242]

1 hour ago, StruggleBus said:

Ah, yes. The only option is for the state to control all of our media outlets. 

The state didn't control all tobacco "outlets" when they forced them to add warning labels to cigarette packs.

Imagine not jumping to conclusions impulsively, and considering ideas thoughtfully.

[Jack Straw 2954]

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

Remember last week when Trump was fined $2 million dollars for stealing from a charity, and got into a fight with a 16 year-old girl? 

"Yes.  Donald Trump is doing a great job"

-Johnny Sack and 100% of Republicans

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  We are creating sentient tools, not thinking citizens.  And we're doing so very much on purpose.

 

44 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

There are people on this very board, people who graduated from excellent universities, who believe college is a vocational school meant to prepare students for a job.

Grrr, big pet peeve of mine. I hear it frequently from A&M grads. "No point in liberal arts." I wasn't in liberal arts, but I am quite thankful that my alma mater required a very solid foundation in a broad area prior to focusing upon knowledge useful to one's area of interest. The entire premise of this type of higher education is to prepare you for opportunities and circumstances unknown and to bring forth your perspective into the greater world as a critically thinking, continuously improving citizen. Lofty ideals, but worthy nonetheless.

 

Edit- I use A&M as an example because I know many and also because it is my understanding that it has not been a university as long as UT has in that it was more of a technical college. Forgive me if I got that wrong.

Edited December 16, 2019 by Mrs Whiggins
correction and addition

[jimmyjazz 45991]

College = trade school (engineering, law, medicine, business) is a relatively new phenomenon that has coincided with the rise of the religious right.  It goes hand in hand with the dismissal of liberal arts, ironically as those studies have gained more traction in the workplace.  It turns out even big business needs people who have been taught how to learn as opposed to having been taught a bunch of facts (and I say this as a professional engineer).

[hayden_horn 11362]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

College = trade school (engineering, law, medicine, business) is a relatively new phenomenon that has coincided with the rise of the religious right.  It goes hand in hand with the dismissal of liberal arts, ironically as those studies have gained more traction in the workplace.  It turns out even big business needs people who have been taught how to learn as opposed to having been taught a bunch of facts (and I say this as a professional engineer).

this is so true. the idea of a liberal arts education was always to provide a means to actually thinking around problems instead of tackling them head on. ideally, you have a good mix of both in the workplace.

[Brisketexan 105161]

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

College = trade school (engineering, law, medicine, business) is a relatively new phenomenon that has coincided with the rise of the religious right.  It goes hand in hand with the dismissal of liberal arts, ironically as those studies have gained more traction in the workplace.  It turns out even big business needs people who have been taught how to learn as opposed to having been taught a bunch of facts (and I say this as a professional engineer).

What's undeniably true is that in EVERY profession or field, there is huge value in being able to see "the big picture," and to visualize complex systems and relationships and how they push/pull against each other.  That helps you make a sale, win a case, design an effective water treatment plant, treat a patient, re-wire a house, etc. etc.

Automatons who know how to turn a wrench in one direction are useful tools, and not much else.  The problem is, equipping people with an education that sets them up for broader success also makes them MUCH less susceptible to simplistic fear-mongering and bullshit, because they can get enough intellectual altitude to look down on what you're laying out, and see it as pure bullshit.  And we can't have that.

[jimmyjazz 45991]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Automatons who know how to turn a wrench in one direction are useful tools, and not much else.  The problem is, equipping people with an education that sets them up for broader success also makes them MUCH less susceptible to simplistic fear-mongering and bullshit,

You know, that's a good point, one I probably knew from an intuitive standpoint, but I haven't heard it made so explicitly.  The last thing an autocrat values is free thinking.

[4th&Five 41565]

I was told impeachment would tank the stock market.

 

[elfenix 34329]

"get a real major" shirts from the college of engineering were cute. 

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

Let them eat cake.

 

 

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Let them eat cake.

 

 

 

Oh hell no. Several cities and taxpayers have finally caught on to the stupid stadium schemes and now this? Talk about an end run.

[DixonHur 11342]

Won't someone think of the billionaires?

[Bama Chick 28596]

Eat the rich.

[BrickHorn 18249]

21 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Let them eat cake.

 

 

 

Hahahaha.  At this point you just have to laugh at the stupidity of the 99%ers who support this transparently corrupt motherfucker and have convinced themselves that he’s “one of us.”  

[Brisketexan 105161]

2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Hahahaha.  At this point you just have to laugh at the stupidity of the 99%ers who support this transparently corrupt motherfucker and have convinced themselves that he’s “one of us.”  

But they will.  They will go through whatever mental gymnastics are necessary to avoid admitting they were wrong.

Rule of the con game: the conned will never, ever admit they were conned.  See, e.g., April and Billy and tomorrow's the big day.

[RomaVicta 29941]

13 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Hahahaha.  At this point you just have to laugh at the stupidity of the 99%ers who support this transparently corrupt motherfucker and have convinced themselves that he’s “one of us.”  

 

9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

But they will.  They will go through whatever mental gymnastics are necessary to avoid admitting they were wrong.

Rule of the con game: the conned will never, ever admit they were conned.  See, e.g., April and Billy and tomorrow's the big day.

Corrupt and immoral? Hell, he is one of them. That's the whole problem.

[Bateshorn 9928]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

What's undeniably true is that in EVERY profession or field, there is huge value in being able to see "the big picture," and to visualize complex systems and relationships and how they push/pull against each other.  That helps you make a sale, win a case, design an effective water treatment plant, treat a patient, re-wire a house, etc. etc.

Automatons who know how to turn a wrench in one direction are useful tools, and not much else.  The problem is, equipping people with an education that sets them up for broader success also makes them MUCH less susceptible to simplistic fear-mongering and bullshit, because they can get enough intellectual altitude to look down on what you're laying out, and see it as pure bullshit.  And we can't have that.

I literally work with Ph.D. scientists and engineers.  They are ultimately my bosses.  These are peoples who are actual Mensa.  They pay me quite well to help them understand policy and how to affect it.  Because they have neither the skills, appropriate eduation, or mind set to tackle the complex issues of how to combine their field of knowledge with governing a global super power.  Can I intrepret the latest set of ice set date to understand how temperature trends will affect agricultural yields? No.  Can I help you understand how that affects cover crop subsidies in the next farm bill? Yes.

My degree is political science.  Oddly, learning out to think critically about elections, political theory, and economics, and do it under tight deadlines with heavy writing requirements (which Bates is known for) prepared me well for this field.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited December 16, 2019 by Bateshorn

[Bruh Man 3160]

 

[Ted Lange 16110]

7 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

 

They done turned the tables on this bitch

 

Edited December 16, 2019 by Ted Lange

[Continental Op 3934]

Edit: nevermind. Maybe I should try reading the article first.

[tx 3 putt 77154]

6 hours ago, GRHorn said:

 

Focus on the major urban areas and college towns in MI. Dems can’t swing back every state 

[tx 3 putt 77154]

1 hour ago, elfenix said:

"get a real major" shirts from the college of engineering were cute. 

Those students make the worst engineers 

[Biff Tannen 45692]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

I was told impeachment would tank the stock market.

 

Well, you see, he hasn't actually been impeached YET.  I'm sure it will tank on Wednesday.

[tx 3 putt 77154]

2 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

this is so true. the idea of a liberal arts education was always to provide a means to actually thinking around problems instead of tackling them head on. ideally, you have a good mix of both in the workplace.

A liberal arts student with some mechanical aptitude is usually a great o/g hire. The problem is they usually get bored with their job, have to keep them challenged.  

[Nivek 16946]

My degree is political science.  Oddly, learning out to think critically about elections, political theory, and economics, and do it under tight deadlines with heavy writing requirements (which Bates is known for) prepared me well for this field.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ohhhh you are that kind of bates horn.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

I'm wondering if they could just take him early?

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

30 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I'm wondering if they could just take him early?

 

Eventually Tucker Carlson will be arguing "Why shouldn't our president be an agent of Russia?" and subsequent polls will show most Republicans are ok with that.

[Biff Tannen 45692]

Just now, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Eventually Tucker Carlson will be arguing "Why shouldn't our president be an agent of Russia?" and subsequent polls will show most Republicans are ok with that.

It's sad how close this is to the truth.

[Brisketexan 105161]

Just now, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Eventually Tucker Carlson will be arguing "Why shouldn't our president be an agent of Russia?" and subsequent polls will show most Republicans are ok with that.

"Subsequent" polls?  They're good with it now.

[hayden_horn 11362]

2 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Eventually Tucker Carlson will be arguing "Why shouldn't our president be an agent of Russia?" and subsequent polls will show most Republicans are ok with that.

[henrygandorf 29194]

so then we're all agreed?

[Lagunamadre 1975]

1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

Between the two of those deplorables, I'd say they've dropped at least 14 N-bombs today.  

[Burt 4087]

On 12/15/2019 at 9:28 AM, Bojack said:

The curse lives on.  Last night, MAGA super turd and UFC fighter, Colby Covington had his jaw broken on his way to getting TKOed in his title fight against Kamaru Usman.

 

 

 

Took that belt right off Donald Trump's desk!

[Guest Lobo]

How can Covington suck Trump’s dick now with that busted jaw.  He can barely get his mouth open since the injury.  Only way to blow the President now is for Covington to hope Trump has a really small dick or for Trump to maybe get blown by a much younger blonde with an eating disorder.  

[Bozo_Casanova 26503]

On 12/15/2019 at 10:28 AM, Bojack said:

The curse lives on.  Last night, MAGA super turd and UFC fighter, Colby Covington had his jaw broken on his way to getting TKOed in his title fight against Kamaru Usman.

 

 

 

Life imitating South Park

[HenryJames 66133]

 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

4 hours ago, Bruh Man said:

 

Imagine being so insecure with your standing in life that a group of poor people coming to your country to try and improve their lives causes you to seize up with anger and fear.

[4th&Five 41565]

22 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

I choked on my drink when he said “I don’t like deficits.”

[RPM 26326]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

 

[DDD Dad 14344]

By the way she was great in that miniseries.

[Guest Lobo]

Although she is a batshit crazy Trumper, she is sexy.  And sitting between her sultry brunette allure, you can see on Pence's face that he'd rather fuck Trump than her.  

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

Forget the rant, what is the weird Nien Nunb helmet on Trump’s head? I had no idea a comb over could do that. 

[6th Street 6432]

20 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Although she is a batshit crazy Trumper, she is sexy.  And sitting between her sultry brunette allure, you can see on Pence's face that he'd rather fuck Trump than her.  

Apparently a couple of tribes have banned her from their reservation after she tried outlawing protest of the Keystone XL.

 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/oglala-sioux-tribe-ban-south-dakota-governor-kristi-noem.html

[Ted Lange 16110]

8 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Forget the rant, what is the weird Nien Nunb helmet on Trump’s head? I had no idea a comb over could do that. 

 

[Aqua Buddha 14598]

25 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

 

That's disturbing AF

[Horn Dog 9877]

4 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

That's disturbing AF

Now imaging fucking that and the unholy result of that action.  Now you understand Trump.