Donald Trump 2019

[Queen Bitch 1692]

Re: tax refunds, they don’t care. TexAgs already saying only Dems rely on refunds cuz government handouts, and besides, they’d happily forgo theirs if it funds the wall.

It’s no longer a case of goalposts being moved — they were torn down and thrown out long ago.

[Gardner Barnes 1562]

These are the same people that nearly took healthcare from 15 million and were going to call it a political victory.
Unless there’s a mass sustained protest I don’t know about, Trump and Mitch couldn’t give a fuck about Joe six pack’s tax returns.

Disagree. Hard dollars will matter. The HC loss is probably worse for middle income and down but costs are less dramatic than the loss of a check.

[Gardner Barnes 1562]

Re: tax refunds, they don’t care. TexAgs already saying only Dems rely on refunds cuz government handouts, and besides, they’d happily forgo theirs if it funds the wall.
It’s no longer a case of goalposts being moved — they were torn down and thrown out long ago.

Please tell me they don’t think refunds are government “handouts”.

Even though I know they do.

Goddammit people are fucking stupid.

[Mdhorn 5984]

32 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

That’s because you and Brisket and others who think this don’t rely on those tax refunds.   

But there is a part of America who does rely on those tax refunds, and if you think they will blindly ignore Turtle refusing to consider a budget vote, or Dotard vetoing it, you don’t know many of them.  

It’s just like Donald assuming that hundreds of thousands of federal employees agree with him and are willing to work without pay.  They may have agreed with him in the past, but the numbers willing to work for free are going to dry up damn fast, and they won’t be voting for him in 2020.

 

 

Mitch knows these people very well.  So does Capito in West Virginia, Tillis from North Carolina, Cassidy in Louisiana, Alexander in Tennessee, Graham in South Carolina, Susan Collins in Maine, Roberts in Kansas, Perdue in Georgia, Cotton in Arkansas, and Cindy Hyde-Smith in Mississippi.  Some may step aside and some may be incriminated but they all have 2020 elections coming up.  

[Mdhorn 5984]

10 minutes ago, Queen Bitch said:

Re: tax refunds, they don’t care. TexAgs already saying only Dems rely on refunds cuz government handouts, and besides, they’d happily forgo theirs if it funds the wall.

It’s no longer a case of goalposts being moved — they were torn down and thrown out long ago.

Not all, some need their meth, oxycontin and other narcos and funding the wall isn't going to fund their habits/sales.  

Edited January 6, 2019 by Mdhorn

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

14 minutes ago, Gardner Barnes said:

Disagree. Hard dollars will matter. The HC loss is probably worse for middle income and down but costs are less dramatic than the loss of a check.

Y’all still aren’t getting it.  The only thing that matters are tangible CONSEQUENCES for Trump and the GOP.   We’re way too far out for this shutdown to have any election repercussions. 

The Senate GOP has proven over and over again they are beyond accountability from the American people.  The Kavanaugh confirmation illustrated this the best.  They were able to get their way despite the protests, mobs, and farce of a confirmation process.  They did this by controlling the media narrative and painting the democrats as the villains for wanting more transparency. 

Edited January 6, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[GhostOfTomJoad 9349]

 

Now it's a steel barrier which is so much better than the concrete he talked about for 2 years. 

And does he think concrete isn't made in the US?

 

Edited January 6, 2019 by GhostOfTomJoad

[Burt 4092]

On 1/5/2019 at 9:51 AM, 4th&Five said:

 

I seem to recall in one of my junior high history classes touching on the "opposition party".  And if my recollection serves me, it was a name given to the party that opposed slavery.

[Mdhorn 5984]

7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Y’all still aren’t getting it.  The only thing that matters are tangible CONSEQUENCES for Trump and the GOP.   We’re way too far out for this shutdown to have any election repercussions. 

The Senate GOP has proven over and over again they are beyond accountability from the American people.  The Kavanaugh confirmation illustrated this the best.  They were able to get their way despite the protests, mobs, and farce of a confirmation process.  They did this by controlling the media narrative and painting the democrats as the villains for wanting more transparency. 

They didn't control the narrative in losing the House.  I understand what you're stating but that is telling in that it showed that people do care and Republicans ignored it.  They're still ignoring it and Trump said so what, the House doesn't really do anything--the power rests with the Senate since they elect judges.  That's not a group that learned a thing or will change.  Unfortunately, another mass shooting will happen, as will another natural catastrophe, economic crash which always happens, and hopefully, not a war.  But those are all on the table and they all matter.  And so will the investigation.  

Edited January 6, 2019 by Mdhorn

[Francisco 2.0 32416]

11 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

 

Now it's a steel barrier which is so much better than the concrete he talked about for 2 years. 

And does he think concrete isn't made in the US?

 

And thanks to his tariffs, the price of steel has gone up, hence the wall will cost more than it would have in the first place, steel or concrete.

 

16 D Backgammon being played here, ladies and gentlemen.

 

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

The shitter in the Oval Office is going to take a beating.

[Francisco 2.0 32416]

1 minute ago, Bama Chick said:

 

 

The shitter in the Oval Office is going to take a beating.

 

For all the crap Trump does on Twitter, he still hasn't tagged her with some kind of nickname or whatnot; something like "Nitwit Nancy" or similar.  Anyone else is fair game, but he's kept his distance from her.  We all know it's not because he respects her, or she's a woman and decorum demands he act as a gentleman.

Maybe tomorrow is the big day.

 

 

[Brisketexan 105276]

F John Bolton. 

Michael Bolton, John Bolton, really, the Venn diagram for “Boltons” and “no-talent assclowns” is just two overlapping circles.

Who, exactly are Matthis and Mathis?

Chances are, it was a typo.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 minute ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

For all the crap Trump does on Twitter, he still hasn't tagged her with some kind of nickname or whatnot; something like "Nitwit Nancy" or similar.  Anyone else is fair game, but he's kept his distance from her.  We all know it's not because he respects her, or she's a woman and decorum demands he act as a gentleman.

Maybe tomorrow is the big day.

It’s because she can really hurt him.  

She could impeach Trump in the House with a snap of her fingers or go hard enough to the paint on the investigations to possibly cripple him politically.

Why doesn’t she do this?  Leverage.

Nancy probably calculates the senate isn’t in a place to successfully remove Trump from office so any premature impeachment effort would result in an acquittal.  She’s going to slow bleed him with the investigations.

[Fudge Nuggets 19213]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yes, clearly the only man with principles is to blame.

Where were his principles during the other one year, eleven months and twenty days of complete madness?

[G650 14273]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Michael Bolton, John Bolton, really, the Venn diagram for “Boltons” and “no-talent assclowns” is just two overlapping circles.

Chances are, it was a typo.

[Fudge Nuggets 19213]

43 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The Senate GOP has proven over and over again they are beyond accountability from the American people.  The Kavanaugh confirmation illustrated this the best.  They were able to get their way despite the protests, mobs, and farce of a confirmation process.  They did this by controlling the media narrative and painting the democrats as the villains for wanting more transparency. 

No, they did it by having more people from their team in the Senate.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

7 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Where were his principles during the other one year, eleven months and twenty days of complete madness?

Preventing WWIII.

[atomheartbevo 89779]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Y’all still aren’t getting it.  The only thing that matters are tangible CONSEQUENCES for Trump and the GOP.   We’re way too far out for this shutdown to have any election repercussions. 

These are tangible consequences for the people who were expecting, even relying upon, their tax refunds being delivered in a timely manner.   

Right now, the shutdown has affected very few Americans, relatively speaking, outside of the hundreds of thousands of federal employees, and certain contractors.  

But when tens of millions find out their shit is getting delayed while Trump is shitter-tweeting about how he won’t open the government if he doesn’t get his $5 billion, it’s going to leave a mark.  

Hell, two months ago,  Trump lost Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona, even after personally campaigning in those states, followed by Republicans shitting all over the voters in some of those states.  And he has to retake at least three of those states in 2020 to win   

Now throw in a delayed tax refund.

How does that help Trump retake at least three of those states?  (hint: it doesn’t). 

Edited January 6, 2019 by atomheartbevo

[atomheartbevo 89779]

1 hour ago, Queen Bitch said:

Re: tax refunds, they don’t care. TexAgs already saying only Dems rely on refunds cuz government handouts, and besides, they’d happily forgo theirs if it funds the wall.

It’s no longer a case of goalposts being moved — they were torn down and thrown out long ago.

TexAgs: a sports forum that loves and worships QAnon  

They are full of shit, as usual.  If their tax returns are delayed, there are going to be a lot of sheep being hate-fucked, more so than usual.

Edited January 6, 2019 by atomheartbevo

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Y’all still aren’t getting it.  The only thing that matters are tangible CONSEQUENCES for Trump and the GOP.   We’re way too far out for this shutdown to have any election repercussions. 

The Senate GOP has proven over and over again they are beyond accountability from the American people.  The Kavanaugh confirmation illustrated this the best.  They were able to get their way despite the protests, mobs, and farce of a confirmation process.  They did this by controlling the media narrative and painting the democrats as the villains for wanting more transparency. 

The consequence is uneasiness sinking the market/economy further.  Trump/R’s needs a humming economy for any chance at all. 

Every day they fuck around is one day closer to D day.  

So keep playing games, assholes.  

[atomheartbevo 89779]

1 minute ago, ChiTownDoc said:

The consequence is uneasiness sinking the market/economy further.  Trump/R’s needs a humming economy for any chance at all. 

Every day they fuck around is one day closer to D day.  

So keep playing games, assholes.  

And imagine the stock market if tax refunds are delayed.  

Edited January 6, 2019 by atomheartbevo

[F250 28814]

 

 

[ChiTownDoc 21154]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

And imagine the stock market if tax refunds are delayed.  

Armageddon.  

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

How does that help Trump retake at least three of those states?  (hint: it doesn’t). 

Yeah, Trump has mismanaged EVERYTHING.

Does.

Not.

Matter.

Charlottesville, Helsinki, Kavanaugh, Child Seperation Policy, Comey, Mueller, North Korea, Trade War, Boy Scouts, Omarosa, NATO, Stock Market, Khashoggi, Paris Accord, Iran Deal, Individual 1, Stormy Daniels, Giuliani, Mattis, Flynn, McMaster, Kelly, Trump Organization, Manafort, Sessions, Pruitt, Zinke, Price, Obamacare.

 

But Gorsuch I guess.

[Player 4576]

Chances are, it was a typo.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

This is what is going on.

 

[Biff Tannen 45712]

49 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This is what is going on.

 

Yep.  He is a cornered rat.  He's going after the only thing he knows will rally his base.  Scary brown people.

[RPM 26341]

1 hour ago, Player said:

 

 

[atomheartbevo 89779]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yeah, Trump has mismanaged EVERYTHING.

Does.

Not.

Matter.

Charlottesville, Helsinki, Kavanaugh, Child Seperation Policy, Comey, Mueller, North Korea, Trade War, Boy Scouts, Omarosa, NATO, Stock Market, Khashoggi, Paris Accord, Iran Deal, Individual 1, Stormy Daniels, Giuliani, Mattis, Flynn, McMaster, Kelly, Trump Organization, Manafort, Sessions, Pruitt, Zinke, Price, Obamacare.

 

But Gorsuch I guess.

None of those things you mentioned required them to work without pay or took money from Trumpkins who were expecting a check from the Treasury

I swear, some of you have never been in a position where going without a paycheck or having a tax refund delayed was a serious issue.   There are a shitload of Americans for whom these are serious issues.  Mock them for being in the position they are in, or even pull a Trump and pretend like they don’t exist, but it doesn’t change the fact that this is a very serious issue for these people.  

Many of them supported Trump, because they believed he would protect them, and take care of them.  Bring better jobs back,  lower their taxes, etc.  

The jobs haven’t arrived and the tax cuts went to the upper classes  

And he’s putting many in financial jeopardy over $5 billion he wants out of trillions of dollars.  

They will put up with a lot of shit.  They will forgive Trump for his lack of morals.  But he’s going to push them to their limit if they have financial issues over what looks like a temper tantrum.   They won’t sit there and nod their heads at how it’s the Democrats fault, because they know Turtle isn’t pushing it through and Trump proudly proclaims he won’t sign it.  

[4th&Five 41586]

I agree with you but still think they’ll put all their anger on the dems because he’ll tell them to and they’d rather be Russian than side with a democrat. 

Edited January 7, 2019 by 4th&Five

[Biff Tannen 45712]

8 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I agree with you but still think they’ll put all their anger on the dems because he’ll tell them to and they’d rather be Russian than side with a democrat. 

Here it is.  Welcome to 2019 where nothing fucking matters and facts are bullshit and we are all on fire.

[atomheartbevo 89779]

6 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I agree with you but still think they’ll put all their anger on the dems because he’ll tell them to and they’d rather be Russian than side with a democrat. 

If Trump would stop saying stupid shit on twitter and completely owning the shutdown, then I would agree that they would put it on the Dems for a while longer   

But Trump keeps owning this and bragging about refusing to sign it.  That takes a hollow victory against the libtards and turns it into a pyrrhic victory.

[Chewy's Hairy Horn 868]

9 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I agree with you but still think they’ll put all their anger on the dems because he’ll tell them to and they’d rather be Russian than side with a democrat. 

This may be true for some, but Maslow still applies.  

Mess with people’s money and they’ll care less about Trump and the wall and more about getting what they need.  The wall can wait. Open the damn government. 

[Gatorubet 30294]

6 hours ago, Gardner Barnes said:

Please tell me they don’t think refunds are government “handouts”.

Even though I know they do.

Goddammit people are fucking stupid.

 

He did say TexAgs

Edited January 7, 2019 by Gatorubet

[sachick 1189]

Trump keeps saying those who aren’t getting paid understand and will work through it. I don’t think he understands that you can’t just call your creditors and bank and say “I’m sorry, I can’t pay my bills this month but I promise I’ll pay when I start getting a paycheck. Ok. Thanks Bye.” And that you can stay in your house without paying your mortgage or that they won’t turn off the lights when you do today the light bill. Trump in his life has never had to write a check to pay for electricity or water, he doesn’t know they’ll shut that shit off and your mortgage company don’t give a fuck why you can’t pay. He’s always had Daddy’s cushion.


And look, I’m going to irritated if my tax return is late. I need a new TV.

[F250 28814]

This tax season is going to be a cluster fuck. It's not just the people waiting on returns but others that are adjusting to the new tax code and are trying to avoid paying higher taxes. I expect a lot of people across the spectrum to be pissed off about the shutdown.

 

 

[triplehorn 2664]

36 minutes ago, sachick said:

Trump keeps saying those who aren’t getting paid understand and will work through it. I don’t think he understands that you can’t just call your creditors and bank and say “I’m sorry, I can’t pay my bills this month but I promise I’ll pay when I start getting a paycheck.

Trump’s divorce from reality and danger for our country is in the red zone.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 hour ago, triplehorn said:

Trump’s divorce from reality and danger for our country is in the red zone.

Most people have no idea the kind of serious shit Trump and his family are in with the law.  Anyone could see if the heat got turned up too high he would lash out on innocent people and make them suffer.  

There isn’t anyone he will not hurt to save himself.  Well, maybe one person.

Edited January 7, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

On 1/5/2019 at 2:38 PM, bolverk said:

Will Hurd at least seems somewhat decent. I haven't bothered to look up his voting record, but he was on NPR the other day talking about how we don't need this stupid wall. Plus, he talks a good bipartisanship game - of course, he has to if he wants to continue to represent that particular district.

I think you should check his voting record. 

Lets just say that Hurd's brow is very furrowed. 

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

Trump's tax cut and stab at snatching away healthcare are abstractions to his moronic base, but when that IRS check doesn't come in the mail, that's gonna be some real shit. And it's gonna be some real shit if you have to wait in a TSA line for six hours because those dudes left to find other jobs. Shit, Trump's doing his level best to cripple air travel in this country period -- that's gonna leave a mark with the white collar idiots who voted for him too when they can't make it to their golf retreat in Palm Springs. 

Edited January 7, 2019 by MaybeACoordinator

[Goredho 17414]

13 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Trumpty Dumpty, definitely.

The Dumpty part sounds fat and slovenly. Perfect for Trump.

So as Trumpty dumpty takes stand on his wall, let’s push his ass off & watch him fall.  So all the wannabe king’s horses and men, can get a fucking paycheck again.

[Nivek 16981]

12 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Michael Bolton, John Bolton, really, the Venn diagram for “Boltons” and “no-talent assclowns” is just two overlapping circles.

Chances are, it was a typo.

Michael Bolton has a sense of humor - and his work with Andy Sandberg was great.

[Nivek 16981]

6 hours ago, sachick said:

Trump keeps saying those who aren’t getting paid understand and will work through it. I don’t think he understands that you can’t just call your creditors and bank and say “I’m sorry, I can’t pay my bills this month but I promise I’ll pay when I start getting a paycheck. Ok. Thanks Bye.” 

Why not? It worked for him?  

[Bookman 4639]

14 hours ago, Jack Straw said:

You’re not getting it.  Trump and the Republicans will blame all of that on the Democrats, and it will work.  These people are either not smart enough to understand that the reason that their refunds aren’t coming is squarely and undeniably on the shoulders of Trump and the R’s, or they are too brainwashed to ever accept it.  Or both.  

Yes Republicans are going to blame Democrats for the shutdown, 100%. It doesn't matter that Trump took the blame for the shutdown.

[atomheartbevo 89779]

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[WhatTheBuck 28797]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

*have

[atomheartbevo 89779]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

lot of words about the media this morning.  Something must be about to drop.  

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