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Trump is getting owned by Pelosi.   Starting with Nancy using Trumps ego to get him to admit that he will proudly own the shutdown.  She has her boot on his throat.  No reason to let up until he admits defeat.

my guess is that trump will have to privately tell the Dems that he wants to open the govt but he needs something for the wall.  Then he will have to give in to many many Dem demands.  McTurtle will be pissed but Nancy,Chuck and Donald will care less what he thinks.  Who knows maybe Nancy gives him his billions for border security but let the money be spent on researching border security including potential walls.  Everyone can get behind the idea of research.  

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17 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

you're fucking kidding me. the entire premise of the blue collar comedy tour is to appeal to mouthbreathers. 

 

17 hours ago, seven said:

You're confusing working class and conservative. The other acts aren't my thing, but Ron white is fantastic and if you think he's for mouth breathers then you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. 

Yeah leave Ron White out of the taint of the Trumposphere. Dude is funny as shit and is legit blue collar. I mean, he grew up in a town outside a town outside of Amarillo, and then moved to Baytown, Texas. 

14 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

There's a good conversation to be had about capitalism murdering genuine and authentic regional culture. Turning country music and humor into a mass market, nationwide product completely changed it, making it a product for white people specifically instead of something that simply came from a predominantly-white area.

Whither the sad transition of Ray Stevens's career.

Who says it's solely a product for white people today? If you go to a black trail ride weekend in Houston, you will hear zydeco, hip-hop, R&B and country in about equal measure. Chris Stapleton's "Tennessee Whiskey" has become a standard in the 'hood already. "Neon Moon" is another big hit from a while back and you will hear a lot more. Back before jukeboxes were internet-based, if you went in a juke joint in one of the Wards or Sunnyside or wherever, about a quarter of the tunes on there would be country. 

8 hours ago, FondrenRoad said:

I love me some cajun food, but southern food is better. Not sure any state gets to claim it alone though.

Also, south louisiana is as good as it gets. Good food, good people. North louisiana is worse than Bama and Mississippi. The people are the absolute worst the bible belt has to offer and none of them can cook for shit. Shreveport makes Jackson seem like a cultural hotspot. 

My father in law's family are old New Orleans Germans. Back around 1945 or so, my father-in-law's dad took a job as an accountant with Exxon and left NOLA for Shreveport. This was a major scandal with the rest of the family back in NOLA. This was something one simply did not do for love nor money. You did not leave New Orleans for Shreveport. An elderly relative of my wife's told us it was typical of him though -- he was a very boring man, he said, and not cut out for New Orleans. 

He eventually ended up in Houston, an outcast from his extended family. His first wife died, and he remarried in old age, to a party girl. He was not a party guy. And he committed suicide, a very lonely man. I guess the moral is, if you are of New Orleans, you don't leave New Orleans. (His first cousin ended up being Rex one year; if he'd hung back a while, he could have been elite.) 

7 hours ago, Born to Run said:

 

 


No- they have Bourbon. We are going to need Bourbon where we are going.

 

 

Lexington is a great city. It's weird in a way that New Orleans is weird -- it's askew from the rest of the country. Its industries are thoroughbreds, cigarettes, and bourbon, and so that's what you are steeped in wherever you go. It's very preservationist as well -- parts of it look just as they did in 1850.

Louisville's kind of a hot mess, but it seems to be a cool river city....Land Between the Lakes is a magical natural power spot not many people know about. Eastern Kaintuck is Justified country, and there's a shit-ton of dead open-pit coal mines in Western Kaintuck too. Rural Kentucky women have very sexy accents and the couple of times I tangled with those wildcats in bed I do not regret. 

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17 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

And the movement has come from within key portions of his base. He is:

  • Down significantly among suburban men, a net-positive approval rating of 51-to-39 percent to a net-negative of 42 percent approve, 48 percent disapprove. That's a net change of down 18 percentage points;
  • Down a net of 13 points among white evangelicals, from 73-to-17 percent approve to 66-to-23 percent approve;
  • Down a net of 10 points among Republicans,from 90-to-7 percent approve to 83-to-10 percent;
  • Down marginally among white men without a college degree, from 56-to-34 percent approve to 50-to-35 percent approve, a net change downward of 7 points.
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So, Cohen paid the chief IT guy at Liberty University to try to rig polls in Trumps favor, then when that failed, Cohen had him promote Cohen as a sex symbol.  It's paywalled at the WSJ, but here's a snippet:

 

 

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/revealed-michael-cohen-paid-fake-twitter-account-touted-sex-symbol/

 

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Michael Cohen paid the chief information officer for Jerry Falwell Jr.’s evangelical university to game online polls for Donald Trump — and to promote himself as a sex symbol.

The former Trump Organization attorney, who has implicated the president in a federal election law violation, paid tech businessman John Gauger up to $13,000 for his work on the 2016 campaign, reported the Wall Street Journal.

 

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Gauger, who owns RedFinch Solutions LLC and oversees information technology at Liberty University, told the newspaper he Cohen gave him a blue Walmart bag full of cash, along with a boxing glove the attorney claimed had been worn by a Brazilian mixed-martial arts fighter.

Cohen, however, requested the full $50,000 promised to RedFinch from Trump and his company, according to court documents.

Gauger told the Journal that he tried unsuccessfully to rig two online polls for Trump in 2015, and Cohen also asked him to help promote himself.

The attorney asked the tech officer to create a Twitter account called @WomenForCohen, which a woman friend of Gauger ran starting in May 2016, to praise Cohen’s looks and character.

“Women who love and support Michael Cohen,” reads the account’s profile. Strong, pit bull, sex symbol, no nonsense, business oriented and ready to make a difference!”

 

 

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Trump is getting owned by Pelosi.   Starting with Nancy using Trumps ego to get him to admit that he will proudly own the shutdown.  She has her boot on his throat.  No reason to let up until he admits defeat.
my guess is that trump will have to privately tell the Dems that he wants to open the govt but he needs something for the wall.  Then he will have to give in to many many Dem demands.  McTurtle will be pissed but Nancy,Chuck and Donald will care less what he thinks.  Who knows maybe Nancy gives him his billions for border security but let the money be spent on researching border security including potential walls.  Everyone can get behind the idea of research.  

Democrats need to paint the walls with the 300 speech “give them nothing. Take from them everything!”
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-house-officials-discuss-whether-mcconnell-can-invite-trump-for-state-of-the-union-address/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=62471904

 

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Top White House officials are discussing whether the GOP-controlled Senate could invite President Trump to deliver the State of the Union address. This, in the wake of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's suggestion Wednesday that the address be postponed or relegated to being done in writing due to the partial government shutdown, now in its 27th day.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's staff hasn't responded yet to CBS News' request for comment.

 

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22 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

The last part of this article drawing parallels to the Johnson impeachment is outstanding. 

The democrats should absolutely start the process of impeachment.   I know the inside baseball calculators think this is a bad move but sometimes you just got to say fuck it and do the right thing.  

We’re so far from election 2020 and now is the time for the Dems to go on offense and keep the anvil on the gas for the next 20 months. 

They don’t have to actually vote to impeach any time soon.  Just start the hearings and process.

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6 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

I can’t imagine that anyone can stop trump from addressing the senate republicans at night.  I’m sure Fox News will show it live.   Networks won’t. 

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39 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

 

my guess is that trump will have to privately tell the Dems that he wants to open the govt but he needs something for the wall.  Then he will have to give in to many many Dem demands.  

 

Just one: a path to citizenship for Americans who have lived the majority of their lives in this country. 

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25 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

So, Cohen paid the chief IT guy at Liberty University to try to rig polls in Trumps favor, then when that failed, Cohen had him promote Cohen as a sex symbol.  It's paywalled at the WSJ, but here's a snippet:

 

 

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/revealed-michael-cohen-paid-fake-twitter-account-touted-sex-symbol/

 

 

 

 

Just when you think the Trump operation couldn’t get anymore aggy.

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7 minutes ago, NBMisha said:

Or he will invite Senate and House Rs to a venue where they will provide unending standing ovations for every utterance.  As the maximum ego dick move, this will be the most likely outcome.

Only fitting if such an event occurred, it happened at his hotel in DC.  The optics of it would be outstanding.  

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27 minutes ago, MaybeACoordinator said:

Lexington is a great city. It's weird in a way that New Orleans is weird -- it's askew from the rest of the country. Its industries are thoroughbreds, cigarettes, and bourbon, and so that's what you are steeped in wherever you go. It's very preservationist as well -- parts of it look just as they did in 1850.

This was very true in my limited experience. Early 90's I worked for a trucking company with a terminal in Lexington. It was in an industrial park built on an old horse ranch. Weird industrial area hidden in the middle of these beautiful estates. Same thing outside Nawlins. There's an industrial park built on an old plantation, but the mansion still stands out front. Very out of place, but it works.

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7 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

White evangelicals. 

Those dumb sons of bitches will be the downfall of this country. 

Fuck them.

Some things never change.

 

Whilst witch trials had begun to fade out across much of Europe by the mid-17th century, they continued on the fringes of Europe and in the American Colonies. The events in 1692/1693 in Salem became a brief outburst of a sort of hysteria in the New World, while the practice was already waning in most of Europe.

In Against Modern Sadducism, (1668) Joseph Glanvill claimed that he could prove the existence of witches and ghosts of the supernatural realm. Glanvill wrote about the "denial of the bodily resurrection, and the [supernatural] spirits."

In his treatise, Glanvill claimed that ingenious men should believe in witches and apparitions; if they doubted the reality of spirits, they not only denied demons but also the almighty God. Glanvill wanted to prove that the supernatural could not be denied; those who did deny apparitions were considered heretics, for it also disproved their beliefs in angels.  Works by men such as Glanvill and Cotton Mathertried to prove that "demons were alive."

Accusations

The trials were started after people had been accused of witchcraft, primarily by teenage girls such as Elizabeth Hubbard, 17, as well as some who were younger.

Recorded witchcraft executions in New England

The earliest recorded witchcraft execution was that of Alse Young in 1647 in Hartford, Connecticut. Historian Clarence F. Jewett included a list of other people executed in New England in his 1881 book.

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3 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

White evangelicals. 

Those dumb sons of bitches will be the downfall of this country. 

Fuck them.

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The man knew exactly what he was talking about. But then he was an actual conservative.

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1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

The take away:  For his base, shooting someone in the middle of 5th Avenue is one thing, but withholding pay?  Well, that warrants a slightly less voluminous cry of “MAGA!”

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Is it good for the dipshit in chief when the rest of the uneducataed dipshits start to lose faith?

The president’s approval rating among white Americans without university degrees has plummeted in the last month, according to separate surveys by Quinnipiac University and CNN.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-apos-support-plummeting-among-095537742.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_08

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1 minute ago, RPM said:

McTurtle and Senate Trumpkins took a hit on this too, approving to remove Russian sanctions while 800,000 gov employees go without a paycheck.

This is a bit of semantics but what really happened was Trump removed the sanctions and the GOP voted not to stop him.

It’s a distinction without much of a difference but I think it’s important to note what really happened. 

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my guess is that trump will have to privately tell the Dems that he wants to open the govt but he needs something for the wall.  Then he will have to give in to many many Dem demands.  McTurtle will be pissed but Nancy,Chuck and Donald will care less what he thinks.  Who knows maybe Nancy gives him his billions for border security but let the money be spent on researching border security including potential walls.  Everyone can get behind the idea of research.  


I think that’s been the only possible outcome for awhile. Nancy is going to get a ton, and her concession will be giving the $5.7 with the caveat that it is for a wide range of border security measures (the stuff border patrol is actually asking for, research to see where additional walls make sense, and maybe new walls where the research says it’s warranted). He’ll call it a victory, his base will believe it, everyone else will see it as an enormous defeat, and little to no new walls will be built.
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1 hour ago, Asithappens said:

White evangelicals. 

Those dumb sons of bitches will be the downfall of this country. 

Fuck them.

By far the most despicable group of people in America.  One upside to the Trump era is that more and more people are seeing them for the dangerous frauds that they really are.  

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I think that’s been the only possible outcome for awhile. Nancy is going to get a ton, and her “concession” ( in quotes because it will actually still be what she wants) will be giving the $5.7 with the caveat that it is for a wide range of border security measures (the stuff border patrol is actually asking for, research to see where additional walls make sense, and maybe new walls where the research says it’s warranted). He’ll call it a victory, his base will believe it, everyone else will see it as an enormous defeat, and little to no new walls will be built.

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4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This is a bit of semantics but what really happened was Trump removed the sanctions and the GOP voted not to stop him.

It’s a distinction without much of a difference but I think it’s important to note what really happened. 

Tell that to the campaign commercials.

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Is it good for the dipshit in chief when the rest of the uneducataed dipshits start to lose faith?


The president’s approval rating among white Americans without university degrees has plummeted in the last month, according to separate surveys by Quinnipiac University and CNN.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-apos-support-plummeting-among-095537742.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_08

I’ll hang up and listen
No, but they will come home in 2020 to own the libs.
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https://news.yahoo.com/trump-apos-support-plummeting-among-095537742.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_08

I’ll hang up and listen
No, but they will come home in 2020 to own the libs.

 

Yep.

"Well, um, I don't like Trump much anymore, but I really love to own the libs.  And (Warren/Harris/Booker/Beto/Biden) is just a socialist gun-grabbing abortion loving open boarders coastal elitist who wants to steal my hard-earned money and give it to welfare queens and immigrants."

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21 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yep.

"Well, um, I don't like Trump much anymore, but I really love to own the libs.  And (Warren/Harris/Booker/Beto/Biden) is just a socialist gun-grabbing abortion loving open boarders coastal elitist who wants to steal my hard-earned money and give it to welfare queens and immigrants."

Well, the GOP is a bunch of bump stocking grabbing mofos.

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17 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

There's a good conversation to be had about capitalism murdering genuine and authentic regional culture. Turning country music and humor into a mass market, nationwide product completely changed it, making it a product for white people specifically instead of something that simply came from a predominantly-white area.

Whither the sad transition of Ray Stevens's career.

NSFW, and Trumpkin fans of country music wouldn’t get it, but this sums things up today.  

 

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22 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

By far the most despicable group of people in America.  One upside to the Trump era is that more and more people are seeing them for the dangerous frauds that they really are.  

Well, I would say a distinction is in order.  The frauds are the people/ministers perpetuating ideas like God solving your problems or the "prosperity gospel".  Some of the people buy into it because it is convenient  and justifies their behavior and lifestyle. 

But there are vast numbers of these guys who have, due to unfortunate events or irresponsible behavior on their parts, found themselves on the outside looking in on the American Dream.  They are vulnerable because they find themselves in  diminished states physical, financial, educational,  and intellectual fitness.  They are out of easy answers.  These are the people that turn to motivational speakers, quick weight loss diets, easy money scams, and of course the notion that the supreme creator of the universe  has time to deal with their bullshit and solve it.   These people should not be despised, but pitied and helped despite the fact that they are least 50% responsible for their situations.  They are not entirely responsible, however, as in many cases the system has failed them and we have failed them.  Compassion would go a lot further than ire in this disturbing trend.

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5 minutes ago, Jiggy-Z said:

Well, I would say a distinction is in order.  The frauds are the people/ministers perpetuating ideas like God solving your problems or the "prosperity gospel".  Some of the people buy into it because it is convenient  and justifies their behavior and lifestyle. 

But there are vast numbers of these guys who have, due to unfortunate events or irresponsible behavior on their parts, found themselves on the outside looking in on the American Dream.  They are vulnerable because they find themselves in  diminished states physical, financial, educational,  and intellectual fitness.  They are out of easy answers.  These are the people that turn to motivational speakers, quick weight loss diets, easy money scams, and of course the notion that the supreme creator of the universe  has time to deal with their bullshit and solve it.   These people should not be despised, but pitied and helped despite the fact that they are least 50% responsible for their situations.  They are not entirely responsible, however, as in many cases the system has failed them and we have failed them.  Compassion would go a lot further than ire in this disturbing trend.

That distinction is not on point.

We're talking about evangelicals. 

Fuck them.

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He'll hold the state of the union at a factory in rural Kentucky where a crowd full of mouthbreathers can chant "build the wall" and "lock her up" over and over again. He'll say the people have spoken. He has a mandate to keep the government shut until he fixes the "mexican problem." I'll bet money that if there is no state of the union he will hold a rally.

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8 minutes ago, 'stache said:

He'll hold the state of the union at a factory in rural Kentucky where a crowd full of mouthbreathers can chant "build the wall" and "lock her up" over and over again. He'll say the people have spoken. He has a mandate to keep the government shut until he fixes the "mexican problem." I'll bet money that if there is no state of the union he will hold a rally.

Better rural Kentucky than rural Texas.

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