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I understand why folks are saying he didn't cave...not that they're right.  Nothing has changed except the government is back open.  He made that clear In his speech yesterday. He knows the dems aren't going to pay for a wall. In three weeks he'll declare his emergency and evening will go to the courts. 

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3 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Kind of like he "repositioned" all of those bankruptcies, Trump University, the Trump Foundation, etc.?

Well, yes.  He “repositioned” those multiple abject failures and fraudulent scams into what?  Oh yeah...getting elected President of the United States.  This utter failure will also be repositioned into a victory in the eyes of tens of millions of Americans.  Roughly half of the voting public, actually. Sit back and watch.   

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51 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

"We have turned away . . . two major Caravans"   -  Without a wall?

" . . . at great expense . . ."  -  But less than $5.7B.

". . . but a big new one has now formed . . ."   -  there is no caravan,  but a pretext for an "emergency"

 

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Trump’s predicament is a foreshadowing of a larger reckoning that the GOP is going to eventually face.  He has to soften his stance or die politically at the hands of a large majority including liberals, centrists, moderate conservatives and the traditionally apathetic that are now motivated to vote.  If he softens his stance, however, he will die at the hands of his minority base that is the conservative street that he will have betrayed.

This is the check-and-balance that centrists and moderates provide in American politics — to pull a government run amok by the lunatic fringe of one party back to a sane middle ground.  Its why Dems were voted into control of the House. And it is uplifting to see Pelosi so adroitly performing her role as foil in this very first test between the will of the people of the United States and their misguided government that does not represent them.

Look at Trump’s approval numbers as he continues to get stymied for a measurement of this effect.  He won’t win back anyone left of his far-right position and he will only lose support from those with him at the far-right as they realize he cannot be effective anymore.  We are not a doomed republic.  There will be damage to repair, and it will give rise to a new set of problems, but this madness ends in 2020 at the latest.

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3 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Trump’s predicament is a foreshadowing of a larger reckoning that the GOP is going to eventually face.  He has to soften his stance or die politically at the hands to a large majority including liberals, centrists, moderate conservatives and the traditionally apathetic that are now motivated to vote.  If he softens his stance, however, he will die at the hands of his minority base that is the conservative street that he will have betrayed.

This is the check-and-balance that centrists and moderates provide in American politics — to pull a government run amok by the lunatic fringe of one party back to a sane middle ground.  Its why Dems were voted into control of the House. And it is uplifting to see Pelosi so adroitly performing her role as foil in this very first test between the will of the people of the United States and their misguided government that does not represent them.

Look at Trump’s approval numbers as he continues to get stymied for a measurement of this effect.  He won’t win back anyone left of his far-right position and he will only lose support from those with him at the far-right as they realize he cannot be effective anymore.  We are not a doomed republic.  There will be damage to repair, and it will give rise to a new set of problems, but this madness ends in 2020 at the latest.

There's a lot of troof here and I think we're seeing it in the state in this legislative session.  I think that Abbot, Goeb, and the other cray crays got a cold dose of reality that their views are no longer widely accepted among all Texans - they just can't keep going further and further right and think there's not going to be consequences.  The Dems made significant gains in the Texas lege and US House and Beto came within a couple points of besting Cruz.  The final vote for Lt Gov was probably too close for comfort for Goeb as well.

So what's happened is that the usual suspects haven't introduced ridiculous legislation (like the bathroom bill) to pacify the Cleetuses and Lurleens in Longview and Hillsboro - they thought they were emboldened by 2016, but the 2018 elections were a cold dose of reality that the days of Empower Texans are numbered and they need to change or go the way of the dodo.  This year's lege session has been surprisingly tame (so far) and I think a lot of that has to do with the state GOP recognizing that changing demographics (and anti-Trump sentiment in the burbs) meansTexas is probably now more similar to Florida than Oklahoma at the ballot box.

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4 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

There's a lot of troof here and I think we're seeing it in the state in this legislative session.  I think that Abbot, Goeb, and the other cray crays got a cold dose of reality that their views are no longer widely accepted among all Texans - they just can't keep going further and further right and think there's not going to be consequences.  The Dems made significant gains in the Texas lege and US House and Beto came within a couple points of besting Cruz.  The final vote for Lt Gov was probably too close for comfort for Goeb as well.

So what's happened is that the usual suspects haven't introduced ridiculous legislation (like the bathroom bill) to pacify the Cleetuses and Lurleens in Longview and Hillsboro - they thought they were emboldened by 2016, but the 2018 elections were a cold dose of reality that the days of Empower Texans are numbered and they need to change or go the way of the dodo.  This year's lege session has been surprisingly tame (so far) and I think a lot of that has to do with the state GOP recognizing that changing demographics (and anti-Trump sentiment in the burbs) meansTexas is probably now more similar to Florida than Oklahoma at the ballot box.

Thanks for the addendum.  I moved out of state two years ago and don’t follow Texas politics much anymore, so it’s interesting to read your state-level observations.

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Privately, some of Mr. Trump’s 2016 aides have said they are pessimistic about his path to 270 electoral votes after his party’s midterm defeats in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin”

Duh.

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51 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

Yep - just flipping PA, Michigan, and Wisconsin gives the Dem 278 and Dotard 260.  that doesn't take into account other potential flips like Arizona, Georgia, NC, and Florida (Ohio & Iowa too, but they're less likely).

Think about how close the Florida elections were a few months ago.  

Now toss in all of the federal employees, contractors, and Coast Guard in Florida.  

Yeah.  He in trouble.  

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Trump did a great job of selling himself to neglected midwestern voters as a Washington outsider who will drain the swamp. It's pretty clear those Midwest voters have turned against him and realized what a mistake that was. 

Trump can still win Florida, but Michigan. Wisconsin, and PA will be a landslide victory for Biden.

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2 hours ago, NIUHuskies said:

It has probably been said before... my gut tells me he reopened the government because his buddy Roger Stone got arrested and Trump wanted to change the news cycle.

Airports.  That looming disaster started finally coming into play a week before the Super Bowl travel was going to really kick in.  

The GOP Senators up in 2020 were probably getting screamed at by lobbyists. 

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3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Airports.  That looming disaster started finally coming into play a week before the Super Bowl travel was going to really kick in.  

The GOP Senators up in 2020 were probably getting screamed at by lobbyists. 

None of this changes there weeks.  The votes still won't be there, either.  

That's what makes me laugh about the Republican talking being about "repositioning."  

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1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

None of this changes there weeks.  The votes still won't be there, either.  

That's what makes me laugh about the Republican talking being about "repositioning."  

The lobbyists won’t let things escalate like they did. 

Turtle can pull his head into his shell, but he and the GOP were starting to really hit companies/industries in the pocketbook with their letting the Toddler in Chief run amok.  

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36 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Think about how close the Florida elections were a few months ago.  

Now toss in all of the federal employees, contractors, and Coast Guard in Florida.  

Yeah.  He in trouble.  

Don’t forget the reinstatement of felons voting.  That’s not exactly a Republican stronghold.

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Airports.  That looming disaster started finally coming into play a week before the Super Bowl travel was going to really kick in.  

The GOP Senators up in 2020 were probably getting screamed at by lobbyists. 

TSA should strike immediately upon him shutting it back down.

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None of this changes there weeks.  The votes still won't be there, either.  

That's what makes me laugh about the Republican talking being about "repositioning."  

This.

It’s like the Japanese repositioning after we sunk the fuck out of their carriers. They could no longer project power; they could only try (futilely) to hold on to what they had.

That ain’t repositioning. It’s holding on for dear life.

Oh. And it eventually ended. Like this:

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Every island the GOP loses puts us one step closer to bombing range for their home islands. We’re coming, bitches.

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