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4 hours ago, Keef said:

As a resident who loves living here, parts of San Francisco are downright disgusting and, at times, dangerous.  The Mission (one of the yuppiest parts of the city with tons of cool bars, restaurants, coffee shops, etc.) has feces, trash, and the occasional used needle everywhere.  The Tenderloin is way worse. The problem isn't all over, but large swathes of SF juxtapose significant wealth against abject poverty and homelessness.  I don't have answers or know anything about the potential policy fixes, but the issues here are real.

 

Whereas all of Houston, Dallas and San Antonio are lovely.

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7 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

You’re missing the point, bad_teammate.  I don’t side with the right wing.  To the contrary, I would very much like to see them trounced.  

I didn't say you did.

I asked you a very simple question, and I'll ask it again:

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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

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What perspective is this poem from?

- Is it from someone on the right? Is it from someone on the left? Or... is it someone from the center?

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If you want to fail in defeating the right wing, by all means use the tactics German Communists employed.  Get fucking run over by the right wing and used as a convenient scapegoat to sway public opinion in favor of evil.  That’ll show ‘em!

So let's work with this historically ignorant framework you've created...

Your contention is that the center - the group that was able to be "sway(ed)" "in favor of evil" - is the group to look at for moral guidance? They're the example to follow?

And it's not the people who were ready to be swayed to evil that were the problem, but the people who actively fought against evil?

It's amazing that someone can read Neimoller and the takeaway is, "Well, yes, that all sounds like it worked out perfectly."

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On the other hand, if you want to prevail over the alt right, look elsewhere for strategic inspiration.

Like where? Give me an example. (You won't, but it would be useful.)

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And study history, for Christ’s sake.

Who do you think beat the Nazis if not Communists?

Irony is fun for everyone.

7 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

The antifa we see in the media is mostly just a bunch of sexually frustrated antisocial hooligans.

Love to talk like Ben Shapiro to own the libs.

7 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

Dressing up like goons and taking to the streets to shout slogans and hurl rocks might feel good.  It might feel like you’re doing something constructive.  “We’re out here in the fresh air, fighting bad guys!”  But it has absolutely zero positive effect.  And worse, it gifts the real goons a scapegoat and an example to support their #bothsides! propaganda.  It’s an idiotic, immature strategy, doomed to failure. 

So the alternative is to just let white nationalists march en masse without counter-protest?

But you say it has "absolutely zero positive effect", which is only true if you're on the side of the Nazis. I'm not saying you are, but you have no clue what you're talking about. These white supremacist rallies used to have hundreds of people, now they're lucky to get two dozen. Why? Because ANTIFA is out there fighting them and actively doxxing them. They're getting arrested and fired from their jobs, because ANTIFA is fighting.

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13 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Unbelievable he’s actually tweeting this shit out.  

REMINDER:  WE GOT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM NORTH KOREA.  IT WAS A COMPLETE CAPITULATION BY THE UNITED STATES VIA DONALD TRUMP. 

No denuclearization, no inspectors allowed in, no declaration of WMD inventory, no enforceable guarantee they will stop testing.

NOTHING.

NORTH KOREA GOT EVERYTHING THEY WANTED AND MORE INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SURRENDERING IN PERSON THREE FUCKING TIMES. 

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2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Antifa doesn’t need to wear masks and wave flags.

They need to wear masks so they don't get doxxed. Think with your brain for a few seconds.

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 You can still punch nazis without LARPing about it

Why do you insist on using the literal exact same insults as the Nazis themselves?

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When they put on their gear and masks, they make it easy for the fascists to vilify them and it’s counterproductive.  

The fascists will vilify anyone who protests them for any reason. What you are saying here is, "When they put on their gear and masks, it makes me agree with the fascists."

That's not ANTIFA's problem, that's YOUR problem because you're a garbage pile of centrist nothingness.

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16 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

They need to wear masks so they don't get doxxed. Think with your brain for a few seconds.

Why do you insist on using the literal exact same insults as the Nazis themselves?

The fascists will vilify anyone who protests them for any reason. What you are saying here is, "When they put on their gear and masks, it makes me agree with the fascists."

That's not ANTIFA's problem, that's YOUR problem because you're a garbage pile of centrist nothingness.

“Garbage pile of centrist nothingness” is poetry.

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27 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

They need to wear masks so they don't get doxxed. Think with your brain for a few seconds.

Do you know how easily I could quickly remove someone’s mask?  The masks are more for intimidation instead of protection. 

What kind of moron thinks a mask is going to protect him from getting doxed?   What does he do when his mask falls off? Run away? 

Wearing a mask is basically a flashing light saying, “Hey I’m an Antifa guy scared of being doxed! Please don’t dox me!” Might as well be wearing a target.

When you’re out in the open, without a mask, you’re saying, “I’m just a normal guy that fucks up nazis for fun.”

 I’d go with no mask for my own protection.

JMO

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7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Do you know how easily I could quickly remove someone’s mask? 

Tough guy!

What would actually happen is that you would get your ass kicked for trying. Andy Ngo loved to dox people, and he just got his fucking ass kicked.

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What kind of moron thinks a mask is going to protect him from getting doxed?

Someone with common sense. Do burglars wear masks to intimidate the security cameras?

You're a fucking moron.

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Wearing a mask is basically a flashing light saying, “Hey I’m an Antifa guy scared of being doxed! Please don’t dox me!” Might as well be wearing a target.

It's amazing how dumb you can be. Impressive, really.

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5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Do you know how easily I could quickly remove someone’s mask?  The masks are more for intimidation instead of protection. 

 What kind of moron thinks a mask is going to protect him from getting doxed?   What does he do when his mask falls off? Run away? 

 Wearing a mask is basically a flashing light saying, “Hey I’m an Antifa guy scared of being doxed! Please don’t dox me!” Might as well be wearing a target.

 When you’re out in the open, without a mask, you’re saying, I just a normal guy that fucks up nazis for fun.  I’d go with no mask for my own protection. 

Zoinks!

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14 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

 

 

This entire July 4th fiasco is about a 7th level clusterfuck.  And it's all about stroking Trumps micro-peen.

 

You get tired of the "imagine if Obama did this" crap.  But seriously, if Obama had the fucking unmitigated gall to take over a July 4th celebration and turn it into a quasi military display/campaign speech/VIP ticket holder event, the House Republicans would have initiated impeachment proceedings immediately and Fox News would go on a 24 hour telethon without commercials decrying the hubris that the President had.  

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President Donald Trump boasted Tuesday that the nation’s military leaders are “thrilled” that he’s trotting out a dazzling display of troops, tanks, helicopters and fighter jets for his personal Independence Day celebration.

But multiple former military leaders are publicly expressing dismay, calling it the latest example of Trump politicizing the armed services.

The annual public festivities and fireworks display on the National Mall scheduled for Thursday are being overtaken by Trump's "Salute to America" event, which is shaping up to feature a prominent role for the military.

"This looks like it’s becoming much more of a Republican Party event — a political event about the president — than a national celebration of the Fourth of July, and it’s unfortunate to have the military smack dab in the middle of that,” said retired Army Lt. Gen. David Barno, who commanded U.S. troops in Afghanistan under President George W. Bush.

“The president is using the armed forces in a political ploy for his reelection campaign and I think it’s absolutely obscene,” added retired Army Maj. Gen. William Nash, a veteran of Vietnam, the Gulf War and peacekeeping operations in the Balkans.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/02/trumps-militarized-july-4-1567767

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3 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

 

Trump has done everything he can to ensure coal miners get the proper medical treatment they deserve for black lung and enforce regulations to prevent them getting it in the first place.

#thatsmypresident

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On 7/1/2019 at 12:29 PM, BrickHorn said:

How ironic.  Y’all criticize my approach on the basis that Trump voters won’t listen to facts, which itself reveals that you haven’t read the words I posted.  

I specifically stated that a fact- or logic-based approach WILL NOT WORK.  That is why I advocate appealing to emotion.  And, in particular, to empathy and compassion.  The key is to show that the Them to which Trump directs his ire includes someone a Trump voter categorizes in the Us group.  

Simma. I agreed with a Bama Chick post.  That is not me criticizing you.    I agree that Reptile trial theory might work.  But they don't give a shit about compassion.  You get them by telling them why Trump hurts THEM and theirs.   They don't care if Mooslims or the browns get hurt.

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1 hour ago, RPM said:

President Donald Trump boasted Tuesday that the nation’s military leaders are “thrilled” that he’s trotting out a dazzling display of troops, tanks, helicopters and fighter jets for his personal Independence Day celebration.

But multiple former military leaders are publicly expressing dismay, calling it the latest example of Trump politicizing the armed services.

The annual public festivities and fireworks display on the National Mall scheduled for Thursday are being overtaken by Trump's "Salute to America" event, which is shaping up to feature a prominent role for the military.

"This looks like it’s becoming much more of a Republican Party event — a political event about the president — than a national celebration of the Fourth of July, and it’s unfortunate to have the military smack dab in the middle of that,” said retired Army Lt. Gen. David Barno, who commanded U.S. troops in Afghanistan under President George W. Bush.

“The president is using the armed forces in a political ploy for his reelection campaign and I think it’s absolutely obscene,” added retired Army Maj. Gen. William Nash, a veteran of Vietnam, the Gulf War and peacekeeping operations in the Balkans.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/02/trumps-militarized-july-4-1567767

@slorch @Onboard 2.0 @Johnny Sack @ChickenSandwich @Chrispy

Or any other trump supporters, comments on forcing the military to work on a holiday? Especially when it is for no good reason and instead of honoring the country's Independence?  Do y’all approve or disapprove of this action?

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17 minutes ago, achooloco said:

@slorch @Onboard 2.0 @Johnny Sack @ChickenSandwich @Chrispy

Or any other trump supporters, comments on forcing the military to work on a holiday? Especially when it is for no good reason and instead of honoring the country's Independence?  Do y’all approve or disapprove of this action?

Tune in to Fox News for your answer. The Trump trolls are simply middle men. 

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6 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Every month or so there are so many despicable acts by Trump and his administration piling up that it feels like a breaking point. But nothing ever happens. 

 

 

try voting for the democrats then. if that doesn't work surely the republicans will be a better choice.

any day now doing the same thing over and over again will yield better results. i am sure of it. 

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