Donald Trump 2019

[Bruh Man 3160]

14 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

Can you imagine if Obama had told U.S. born citizens, like Trump, that he should go back to the shithole country that he came from?  I mean, Trump's words were the most fundamentally Un-American language of any President I can think of.  They don't come as a surprise, of course, but where are all the Republicans condemning them?  This is a rejection of the motto on the Great Seal (E Pluribus Unum), "From Many, One."   What's worse is that Trump realizes that, once he's out of office, he and his kids are fair game for prosecutors, so his poisonous words/actions are liable to become much, much more outlandish. 

Oh this is only the beginning. Expect 15 more months of this rhetoric. He and his advisors have calculated that having these four congresswomen and immigration in the news is the best path for re-election. Those four are getting more coverage than Dem presidential candidates. This is what he wants. 

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

obviously workshopped quite a bit to come up with "not reflective of our values" as the euphemism for "super racist," so I deduct points for that, but he could have just stopped after the "we are proud" sentence.  gets points for saying the president must disavow his comments and not even acknowledging the right wing talking about the message not being that racist because he said they should come back after they go.  I give it a B.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

8 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Pearland rep.

This is the best we're going to get. Other reps from similar diverse districts will probably follow suit.

24 hours to come up with "disavowal," but not condemnation.   Pathetic. 

Edit:  actually, even worse.  I misread that he was urging others to join him in disavowing, but he isn't even doing that.   Not reflective.  Shameful. 

Edited July 15, 2019 by Mojo Hand

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

The "King of Debt" (and stiffing those he owes) working his and the GOP's magic.

 

http://www.crfb.org/blogs/deficit-has-never-been-high-when-economy-was-strong

 

This year, the budget deficit is projected to total about $970 billion – 4.6 percent of GDP – up from $666 billion (3.5 percent of GDP) in 2017. This borrowing is virtually unprecedented in current economic conditions.

Normally, deficits rise during recessions and fall during economic expansions. This feature is unsurprising: lower incomes lead to lower tax revenue (and higher spending on programs like unemployment insurance), and policymakers often respond to recessions by enacting economic stimulus.

Rarely have deficits risen when the economy is booming. And never in modern U.S. history have deficits been so high outside of a war or recession (or their aftermath).

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

Why would he care about debt now?  You acknowledge that he’s more than happy to walk away from debt. Its a non-entity to him.  Borrowing money that you have no intention of repaying is just smart business to him. 

[Mojo Hand 4580]

3 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

The "King of Debt" (and stiffing those he owes) working his and the GOP's magic.

 

http://www.crfb.org/blogs/deficit-has-never-been-high-when-economy-was-strong

 

This year, the budget deficit is projected to total about $970 billion – 4.6 percent of GDP – up from $666 billion (3.5 percent of GDP) in 2017. This borrowing is virtually unprecedented in current economic conditions.

Normally, deficits rise during recessions and fall during economic expansions. This feature is unsurprising: lower incomes lead to lower tax revenue (and higher spending on programs like unemployment insurance), and policymakers often respond to recessions by enacting economic stimulus.

Rarely have deficits risen when the economy is booming. And never in modern U.S. history have deficits been so high outside of a war or recession (or their aftermath).

No worries, Trump and Rand Paul had a great chat about it while golfing on the taxpayers' dime this weekend.  They decided to blame Democrats for it. 

[horncyclist 1387]

9 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Pearland rep.

This is the best we're going to get. Other reps from similar diverse districts will probably follow suit.

We'll get similar from Romney by the end of today. Maybe another Senator or two. In a week we'll have moved on. Rinse/repeat.

The republican party is a white nationalist party led by an overt racist. It is not the party of small government. It is not the party of fiscal responsibility or social conservatism, if it ever we're those things. It's the party of Trump. And it's no longer enough not to tolerate him, the whole party is fucked. Im going to disassociate myself with every republican I can.

[Dbeasy 15051]

I just don’t understand the Christians in all of this. Neither Trump nor the GOP is demonstrating behavior that is inline with Christian principles, except for the official church view on abortion. Why are these people staying with the Republican Party and Trump? I don’t get it.

[Celery Man 20949]

What is “ant-semetic”?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I just don’t understand the Christians in all of this. Neither Trump nor the GOP is demonstrating behavior that is inline with Christian principles, except for the official church view on abortion. Why are these people staying with the Republican Party and Trump? I don’t get it.

Because they’ve been led to believe the democrats are satanic child eaters so they have no alternative.

[SuingToGetAMessageBoard? 3861]

5 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I just don’t understand the Christians in all of this. Neither Trump nor the GOP is demonstrating behavior that is inline with Christian principles, except for the official church view on abortion. Why are these people staying with the Republican Party and Trump? I don’t get it. 

Christian denominations are very non-uniform on this.  Seems to me evangelical means Trump.  For everyone else, your support for him depends on all the other individual demographic factors and religion ends up not being predictive.

 

 

[yoladu 4094]

2 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Remember when Trump claimed Judge Curiel, who was born in Indiana, couldn't fairly preside over his Trump University case because he was a Mexican?

Sent from my LM-X210CM using Tapatalk
 

how nice of a world we would be living in if someone like Ted Cruz posted something like this.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

11 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I just don’t understand the Christians in all of this. Neither Trump nor the GOP is demonstrating behavior that is inline with Christian principles, except for the official church view on abortion. Why are these people staying with the Republican Party and Trump? I don’t get it.

The answer is that there are a lot of phony Christians who use their religion to justify what they want and discard its principles whenever they would conflict with what they want. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

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It's being a traitor.  But it's not just being a traitor.  It's the obstruction of justice but its not just the obstruction of justice.  It's the attacks on rule of law.  But it's not just the attacks on the rule of law.  It's the assault on freedom of the press.

But it's not just the assault on freedom of the press.  It's the pathological lying.  But it's not just the pathological lying.  It's the unfitness for office.  But it's not just the unfitness for office.  It's the incompetence.  But it's not just the incompetence.

It's the attacks on our most important allies and alliances.  But it's not just the attacks on most important allies and alliances.  It's the systematic destruction of our environment.  But it's not just the systematic destruction of our environment.

It's the violation of international treaties and agreements.  But it is not just the violation of international treaties and agreements.  It's the embrace of our enemies.  But it is not just the embrace of our enemies.

It's the defense of murdering dictators but it is not just the defense of murdering dictators.  It is the serial undermining of our national security.  But it is not just the serial undermining of our national security.  It is the nepotism.  But it's not just the nepotism.

It's the attacks on our federal law enforcement and intelligence communities.  But it is not just the attacks on our federal law enforcement and intelligence communities.  It's the fiscal recklessness.  But it's not just the fiscal recklessness.

It's the degradation of the office and of public discourse in America.  But it's not just the degradation of the office and of public discourse in America.  It's the support of Nazis and white supremacists.  But it's not just the support of Nazis and white supremacists.

It's the dead in Puerto Rico and the at the border.  But it's not just the dead in Puerto Rico and at the border.  It's turning the US government into a criminal conspiracy to empower and enrich the president and his supporters.

But it's not just the turning the US government into a criminal conspiracy to empower and enrich the president and his supporters.  It's weaponization of politics in America to attack the weak.  But it's not just the weaponization of American politics to attack the weak.

It's all these things together and the threat of worse to come.  It is the damage that can not be undone.  It is pathology that has overtaken our politics and our society, the revelation that 40 percent of the population and an entire political party are profoundly immoral.

It is a disease that has infected our system and is killing it.  At the moment, we still have the wherewithal to fight back.  But even those who recognize the dangers of this litany of crimes are proving too complacent, too inert in the face of this threat.

It is one of those moments in the history of a country when there is a choice to be made, a choice between having a future and not, between growth and decay, between democracy and oligarchy, between what we dreamt of being and what even our founders feared we might become.

The litany of crises and crimes is so long that we are becoming numb.  You have heard of the fog of war. This is the fog of Trump. The volume of wrongs becomes its own defense. Is the president accused of being a rapist?  Well, then remind them he is a racist and they'll forget.

This is a moment for leaders to step up.  To challenge each of these abuses via every legal means available.  To organize and draw attention to them.  To blow the whistle if you are in government and you are being asked to violate your oath.  To resist and refuse to be complicit.

If you can't do those things that make your voice heard and join a movement, support a political candidate, donate money, register voters, fight voter suppression.  But whatever you do, resist becoming numb.  Resist the temptation to let the recitation of old crimes and new...

...become a deadening drone.  Every one matters in times like these.  Every one must stand up for what is right.  In their homes.  In their schools.  In the workplace.  In their churches and synagogues and mosques.

We are approaching a great national decision about whether the American experiment will succeed or fail, whether this moment does what two world wars, a civil war and countless past misjudgments and missteps could not.

We will make it together, resist, offer a better alternative, embrace that alternative and the best leaders we can find...or succumb, let the inertia of some among us mark the end of what for two and half centuries was an idea so compelling it inspired the world.

[Bruh Man 3160]

18 minutes ago, horncyclist said:

We'll get similar from Romney by the end of today. Maybe another Senator or two. In a week we'll have moved on. Rinse/repeat.

The republican party is a white nationalist party led by an overt racist. It is not the party of small government. It is not the party of fiscal responsibility or social conservatism, if it ever we're those things. It's the party of Trump. And it's no longer enough not to tolerate him, the whole party is fucked. Im going to disassociate myself with every republican I can.

bbbbbbbbut economic anxiety...

the media really screwed that one up.

[Fozzz 152]

Who gets to determine who is an authentic christian versus a phony christian?  

[Red Five 40858]

I’m not religious so I’m just fucking baffled by all of it.... but Texas football is about the closest thing I have. To me this would be like if one day CDC announced that we’re changing our school colors to maroon, our right song to Boomer Sooner, and our nickname to the Aggie Sooners. And then everyone cheered it all on. “But doesn’t this go against.... everything?”.
“Shut up libtard! Gig em!”.

[yoladu 4094]

Just now, Fozzz said:

Who gets to determine who is an authentic christian versus a phony christian?  

the authentic Christians, of course.

[DigglerontheHoof 21199]

12 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I just don’t understand the Christians in all of this. Neither Trump nor the GOP is demonstrating behavior that is inline with Christian principles, except for the official church view on abortion. Why are these people staying with the Republican Party and Trump? I don’t get it.

I think it mostly boils down to abortion and bigotry for them.  The ends justify the means.  That's where they come up w/ that bullshit about Trump being an instrument of God.  It's twisted fucking thinking but they feel that if Trump can pack the courts and get Roe v Wade overturned/castrated, then it will all be worth it.

The fact that Trump is vile, crooked and stupid is irrelevant...as long as they can get their way on abortion.   

Now, marinate that anti-abortion zeal in a little white nationalism and you have yourself an army of ignorant, Christian soldiers. 

[Jive Turkey 12598]

28 minutes ago, retread said:

Trump never disavows.

After lukewarm tweets, nothing more is ever said by Rs in Congress.

Not only does he not disavow, he doubles and triples down on his behavior  just to prove his point that he can get away with it within his own party. They won’t say shit. And he knows it. And Pelosi would do shit. And he knows it.  Rinse and repeat with even more outrageous conduct. 

I honestly don’t think he’ll be satisfied until somebody is physically harmed. Whether a politician or member of the media. And even then he’ll blame somebody else. Other politicians or the media. 

[retread 2951]

This is just batting practice for the authoritarian main event.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20400]

29 minutes ago, Bruh Man said:

Oh this is only the beginning. Expect 15 more months of this rhetoric. He and his advisors have calculated that having these four congresswomen and immigration in the news is the best path for re-election. Those four are getting more coverage than Dem presidential candidates. This is what he wants. 

Good, because he's chipping away at his own base.  He lost two of my Facebook friends with this latest salvo.  Leading up to the election and for the first year of his administration these two friends were incredibly pro-trump, to the point of posting all kinds of stuff that turned out to be generated by Russians.  Then I noticed that about a year ago they both stopped.  This morning one said "Trump should not have said that"  and the other out-and-out said "This was the last straw. I've given up on him."  So, slowly, the 40% is being whittled down, drip by drip, with each display of spectacular incompetence/racism. He's also losing a little bit from his alt-right base.  By election time, only the hard core, incorrigible Trumpkins will vote for him. Not saying that either of these friends are going to vote for a Democrat (I could see one doing so, based on other past posts), but I could see them both just staying home on election day. 

['stache 21815]

11 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Who gets to determine who is an authentic christian versus a phony christian?  

That's too deep of a question for anyone to answer. But from the outside looking in, historical Jesus was pro-immigrant and was anti many things the current republican party supports. Many churches say "our doors are open to everyone" but do not really allow gays to do anything in the church unless they agree to just never be intimate with anyone they love (and some will refuse to accept even that). And more to the point, they support the current nonsense that people born outside of our borders are less than a 'murican in god's eyes. That is enough to tell me they are hypocritical at best. Authentic vs. phony? I don't really know what that means. I just know they are bigots and assholes and do not represent what the church says its supposed to be.

[wildcat09 29354]

31 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I just don’t understand the Christians in all of this. Neither Trump nor the GOP is demonstrating behavior that is inline with Christian principles, except for the official church view on abortion. Why are these people staying with the Republican Party and Trump? I don’t get it.

For most white protestant Christians in this country, Trump's behavior is absolutely in line with Christian principles. They use their opposition to abortion as a moral facade to hide behind, a way to justify obviously immoral shit to themselves and others, but their only real belief is that we should have a patriarchal system of white supremacy.

[retread 2951]

lol

Edited July 15, 2019 by retread

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

I’m apathetic to voting in general, as my cynicism sees all politicians as crooks on some form or another.  And while I tend to view myself as a compassionate conservative, I don’t see any compassion or fiscal conservatism from the Republican Party, and haven’t for probably 20 years. 

I’d prefer, I think, literally any democrat to trump. And I might even bother voting for him or her rather than abstaining next year, though I’m not sure Wyoming is in play nor does its EV really matter. 

After the last election, I enjoyed the idea of an outsider (relative term, he’s still a rich white guy with lots of connections) winning in an upset, and was hopeful that the weight of the office would bend him into decent shape as the chief executive.  

But damn if he isn’t every bit the racist sexist blowhard he ever was, and gets worse and more emboldened by the day. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

This is going to end up being one of those inflection points, like Charlottesville/Helsinki.

[lemonlime 5503]

5 minutes ago, retread said:

lol

Fuck her and anyone else who references Israel or anti-semitism in an attempt to deflect from their own racism.

[Fozzz 152]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I’m apathetic to voting in general, as my cynicism sees all politicians as crooks on some form or another.  And while I tend to view myself as a compassionate conservative, I don’t see any compassion or fiscal conservatism from the Republican Party, and haven’t for probably 20 years. 

I’d prefer, I think, literally any democrat to trump. And I might even bother voting for him or her rather than abstaining next year, though I’m not sure Wyoming is in play nor does its EV really matter. 

After the last election, I enjoyed the idea of an outsider (relative term, he’s still a rich white guy with lots of connections) winning in an upset, and was hopeful that the weight of the office would bend him into decent shape as the chief executive.  

But damn if he isn’t every bit the racist sexist blowhard he ever was, and gets worse and more emboldened by the day. 

Reagan was Keynesian as well.  "Fiscal conservatism" is really just bullshit to fool rubes such as yourself.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33870]

JFC:

 

[lemonlime 5503]

Just now, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

JFC:

 

So why the fuck hasn't he left?  I thought we weren't great and he was the most upon person in world history.   

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

Well I was a kid when Reagan was in office, so it’s not like his policies are sharp in my mind. 

[Pato del Muerto 52498]

1 minute ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

JFC:

 

Love it or leave it!

[retread 2951]

The 40% just popped a collective boner.

[Jive Turkey 12598]

The double and triple down begins.

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13585]

7 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

JFC:

 

Take your own advice.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

7 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

JFC:

 

Not one trumpkin gets the irony of this sad, angry piece of shit, that spends the majority of his day bitching about whatever he’s seen on TV that day, making that comment.

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

36 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Who gets to determine who is an authentic christian versus a phony christian?  

More pressing question: Who gets to determine who is a real American versus a phony American who "should leave"?

[Guest Lobo]

23 & Me?  

[Fudge Nuggets 19190]

I hate this fat, orange cunt.

[JimmyJames 12271]

Anyone who’s grandparents were born in Germany can get the fuck out. Those fuckers attacked Pearl Harbor damnit. 

Also any anchor babies with Russian born moms can get the fuck out. Those ruskies just want to make this place a communist hellhole. 

Whose with me! 

 

[RomaVicta 29907]

2 hours ago, Mojo Hand said:

I should just make this my signature at this point:

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."  - George Orwell, 1984

I re-read that book in 1984. I'd always discredited its premise because I didn't see how someone could gain so much power over a free people. In 1984, under Reagan, it just hit me: the people will demand it.

Here we are.

[Guest Lobo]

Wait, 1984 was written in 1984 about Reagan?  

[Jive Turkey 12598]

Quote

"And all I'm saying — they want to leave, they can leave."

They don't want to leave.  They want to stay and fix this mess.  Trump wants them to leave, and they won't.  Which pisses him off.  Damn uppity women not doing what he says, and he can't force them to do something they don't want to do.  This drives Trump insane.

Edited July 15, 2019 by Jive Turkey

[Guest Lobo]

double post

Edited July 15, 2019 by Lobo

[Hank Kingsley 20938]

What a fucking moron hahahaha

 

[Guest Lobo]

Wait, 1984 was written in 1984 about Reagan?    

Yeah, I have to admit I totally thought the gun nuts were keeping their guns to defend themselves against government oppression.  Turns out that 38% were keeping their guns to turn them on us, those fellow citizens that wouldn't want to along with they and their dear leader's vision.  

[JimmyJames 12271]

Yeah next thing you know we’re gonna have a Black Muslim from Kenya in the White House eating Dijon mustard, playing basketball and wearing tan suits. 

 

[retread 2951]

and filling out NCAA tournament brackets ^

[Red Five 40858]

8 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

What a fucking moron hahahaha

 

Hahahaha. That's.... wow.