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I fucking love this President. My 2 faves during my lifetime are Trump and Nixon. They share a lot of similarities and were besieged by the same groups of assholes. No I’m not trolling. Y’all, the lef

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This.....is magnificent. The "younger generation" is going to have to work double-time to fund YOUR Social Security, which YOUR generation of elected officials raided the fuck out of.  And which,

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James Mattis is a spineless, weak-willed coward who has been a closet librul his whole life.

-- Texas A&M 

I will most likely be proven wrong, but I actually think Trump, or at least some around him, know that many in the military (as well as many vets) really liked Mattis, and that Trump and the GOP better dance around his criticisms of him.   Those people had a collective orgasm when Mattis said he was the one who kept others up at night.

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Comprehensive reform of Healthcare delivery for veterans...
 

As someone who uses the VA regularly, you may have to explain this to me further because I don't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Then again, there's the possibility he's completely making it up.

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As someone who uses the VA regularly, you may have to explain this to me further because I don't know what the fuck he's talking about.

Then again, there's the possibility he's completely making it up.

You haven’t noticed that Obama forced everyone at the VA, including patients, to pray towards Mecca 5 times per day? Bible burning in the court yard every day at sunset. 

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I'm not sure who your comment is directed at.  It appears to me that the qualification is basically saying "this policy is not retroactive".

 

Yeah because "all kids born to US Military overseas won't be US citizens anymore" to what is actually the policy change is and how many people it affects might just be slightly different. 

Don't get me wrong it's a stupid policy but it isn't nearly as bad as the headlines and all the tweets suggested initially. 

 

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8 hours ago, triplehorn said:

This is a fully stacked thoroughly well referenced write up.  It’s by a Duke law student, I believe.  Really ties it together with a ream of key information using known reporting:

U.S. HOUSE CONFIRMS IT IS CONDUCTING “MAJOR” MONEY LAUNDERING INVESTIGATION INVOLVING PRESIDENT TRUMP

The House case may never become ‘ironclad’ but they’re damn sure going for it with a plan in mind.  Again, the linked write-up above goes in depth.  Kudos to that guy.

 

 

It's absolutely fucking incredible where we are at this point in time. The shit you keep posting in regards to Donald's potential money laundering and how hard he and DB are fighting to keep his tax returns from being seen should be, by far, the second biggest story right now, behind this administration's concentration camps and treatment of immigrants and asylum seekers. It's not even a blip on the radar. I'm not even talking about the everyday head in the sand American, but this board isn't even really talking about it. It's honestly a testament to Donald and Fox News's ability to beat you down and suck the life out of you.... 

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3 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

 

It's absolutely fucking incredible where we are at this point in time. The shit you keep posting in regards to Donald's potential money laundering and how hard he and DB are fighting to keep his tax returns from being seen should be, by far, the second biggest story right now, behind this administration's concentration camps and treatment of immigrants and asylum seekers. It's not even a blip on the radar. I'm not even talking about the everyday head in the sand American, but this board isn't even really talking about it. It's honestly a testament to Donald and Fox News's ability to beat you down and suck the life out of you.... 

Chaos fatigue.  This story has been going since before the election and the amount of other scandals compiled with the shit thrown at us daily by the President makes it nearly impossible to keep up with.  If I'm not getting paid to follow it, it will get lost in all of the other unprecedented shit we hear weekly.  Hell, Hugo has even calmed down about it.  

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You haven’t noticed that Obama forced everyone at the VA, including patients, to pray towards Mecca 5 times per day? Bible burning in the court yard every day at sunset. 

Here's a link below on the chaplain services from 2015.  I can't quite recall who was president in 2015.

https://www.northtexas.va.gov/services/chaplain.asp

 

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6 minutes ago, JimmyHoffa said:

 

Yeah because "all kids born to US Military overseas won't be US citizens anymore" to what is actually the policy change is and how many people it affects might just be slightly different. 

Don't get me wrong it's a stupid policy but it isn't nearly as bad as the headlines and all the tweets suggested initially. 

 

It just doesn't make any sense. I thought that any child born with at least one American parent was automatically a citizen, regardless of place of birth. Take Ted Cruz for example: born to an American mother and Cuban father in Canada. Yet, there were no questions regarding his eligibility to become president when he ran a few years ago. How is it possible, or even justifiable, to cherry pick children of military personnel overseas and not give the same right to automatic citizenship?

Is it a trial balloon to see if they can get away with and start applying it across the board to the rest of us?

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Yeah because "all kids born to US Military overseas won't be US citizens anymore" to what is actually the policy change is and how many people it affects might just be slightly different. 

Don't get me wrong it's a stupid policy but it isn't nearly as bad as the headlines and all the tweets suggested initially. 

 

You're going to have to be a lot more clear.  The policy change explicitly states that those parents must apply to have their children become naturalized citizens, whereas previously they were automatically citizens at birth.  How is this not ripe for abuse?  How do you not see the reasoning for the change?

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It just doesn't make any sense. I thought that any child born with at least one American parent was automatically a citizen, regardless of place of birth. Take Ted Cruz for example: born to an American mother and Cuban father in Canada. Yet, there were no questions regarding his eligibility to become president when he ran a few years ago. How is it possible, or even justifiable, to cherry pick children of military personnel overseas and not give the same right to automatic citizenship?

Is it a trial balloon to see if they can get away with and start applying it across the board to the rest of us?

 

Not sure. I believe the child is a US citizens if one parent has been a US citizen for more than 5 years. But yes it's idiotic and seems to be in the category of shit that we have bigger things to worry about. And isn't just Military families but US Govt workers as well. And they can still apply for a waiver to be granted citizenship. 

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He forgot to add "of course" when letting us know it was going to hit Florida. 

"perhaps one of the biggest".  Here are a list of larger hurricanes AT LANDFALL, in the US alone:

Michael (Cat 5)

Andrew (Cat 5)

Camille (Cat 5)

Labor Day 1935 (Cat 5)

Irma (Cat 4)

Hugo (Cat 4)

Carla (Cat 4)

Okeechobee (Cat 4)

 

This list ignores 23 Cat 4/5 hurricanes that made landfall outside of the US.

 

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You're going to have to be a lot more clear.  The policy change explicitly states that those parents must apply to have their children become naturalized citizens, whereas previously they were automatically citizens at birth.  How is this not ripe for abuse?  How do you not see the reasoning for the change?

 

Only affects US military members and US govt workers overseas if the parent has been a US citizens for less than 5 years. If one of the parents has been a US citizen for more than 5 years  it doesn't apply.

EVERYONE else is exempt.

Like I said above it's a stupid policy change but isn't the OMG headline that everyone was freaking out about. 

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Not sure. I believe the child is a US citizens if one parent has been a US citizen for more than 5 years. But yes it's idiotic and seems to be in the category of shit that we have bigger things to worry about. And isn't just Military families but US Govt workers as well. And they can still apply for a waiver to be granted citizenship. 

Right, I get that. But as someone posted upthread, the process can be a huge pain in the ass and is fairly expensive. What is the rationale for placing this additional burden on soldiers and other government employees who are serving their country overseas? And how can a simple policy directive suddenly take away a fundamental right in such short order from a specific class of individuals?

My assumption is they're trying to see if they can get away with it first on them, and then apply it to everyone else as a means to start chipping away at birthright citizenship as a whole.

Edit: I think that's a fairly safe assumption as the administration has already come out earlier saying they wanted to do away with birthright citizenship.

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"perhaps one of the biggest".  Here are a list of larger hurricanes AT LANDFALL, in the US alone:

Michael (Cat 5)

Andrew (Cat 5)

Camille (Cat 5)

Labor Day 1935 (Cat 5)

Irma (Cat 4)

Hugo (Cat 4)

Carla (Cat 4)

Okeechobee (Cat 4)

 

This list ignores 23 Cat 4/5 hurricanes that made landfall outside of the US.

 

Sometimes it's like listening to an 8 year old (Trump, not you). "Will it ever end??" "One of the biggest!!". 

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Only affects US military members and US govt workers overseas if the parent has been a US citizens for less than 5 years. If one of the parents has been a US citizen for more than 5 years  it doesn't apply.

EVERYONE else is exempt.

Like I said above it's a stupid policy change but isn't the OMG headline that everyone was freaking out about. 

That's not what the policy says at all.  You are referring to INA 316, which covers naturalization.  INA 320 covers the AUTOMATIC citizenship of a child once they acquire permanent residence in the US, with the acknowledged stipulations on parental citizenship, etc.  That policy has been changed and there is no longer automatic citizenship awarded to those children.  They must apply for naturalization.

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That's not what the policy says at all.  You are referring to INA 316, which covers naturalization.  INA 320 covers the AUTOMATIC citizenship of a child once they acquire permanent residence in the US, with the acknowledged stipulations on parental citizenship, etc.  That policy has been changed and there is no longer automatic citizenship awarded to those children.  They must apply for naturalization.

Just to be clear — and I haven't been able to figure this out — if two US citizens in diplomatic or military service have a baby overseas, and they have lived all of their lives in the US apart from recently going overseas, they will now have to go through the effort of naturalizing their baby for citizenship? 

If so, that also likely means that the baby can't be president someday. 

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It's absolutely fucking incredible where we are at this point in time. The shit you keep posting in regards to Donald's potential money laundering and how hard he and DB are fighting to keep his tax returns from being seen should be, by far, the second biggest story right now, behind this administration's concentration camps and treatment of immigrants and asylum seekers. It's not even a blip on the radar. I'm not even talking about the everyday head in the sand American, but this board isn't even really talking about it. It's honestly a testament to Donald and Fox News's ability to beat you down and suck the life out of you.... 

The lag phase between awareness and takedown is unbearably long.  Maybe we can get a show of hands here of how many people don't think Trump is financially owned by foreign actors' bailouts and in so doing has also facilitated 100M's in international money laundering.  Maybe another show of hands from those who think Trump is likely owned by entities linked to transnational criminal organizations and uses his office to benefit them out of indebtedness, but don't really care or think anything should be done about it.

Look, it was only last January that people got sworn into control of the House with an intent to actually investigate and do something.  They immediately jumped on it and access to the evidence that could be the linchpin is at end-game right now in two cases in the Circuit Court of Appeals (Trump v Mazars and Trump v Deutsch Bank/Capital One).  Mueller got his evidence almost two years ago.  But absent public indictments, that evidence is hidden.  And did you notice Bill Barr has done everything he can to prevent Congress' access to Mueller's evidence?  So we're right where one should expect we'd be given the circumstances. 

There is reason to believe House and Senate caught the scent of hard evidence of Trump money laundering during Mueller investigation.  They all know this money laundering is no witch hunt.  And Box Turtle might as well be a church mouse because he's being awfully damn quiet. 

 

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Just to be clear — and I haven't been able to figure this out — if two US citizens in diplomatic or military service have a baby overseas, and they have lived all of their lives in the US apart from recently going overseas, they will now have to go through the effort of naturalizing their baby for citizenship? 

If so, that also likely means that the baby can't be president someday. 

That is exactly how I read the new policy.  I do believe embassies and consulates are considered US territory, but military bases are not.  I have no idea how "residence" in an embassy/consulate would play into the policy, nor whether or not the birthing hospital would have to also be on the grounds.  That's getting way too far in the details.  My main takeaway is that soldier(s) who have kids overseas now have to apply to naturalize those children.

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Just to be clear — and I haven't been able to figure this out — if two US citizens in diplomatic or military service have a baby overseas, and they have lived all of their lives in the US apart from recently going overseas, they will now have to go through the effort of naturalizing their baby for citizenship? 

If so, that also likely means that the baby can't be president someday. 

But can they still play for US Soccer?

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That's not what the policy says at all.  You are referring to INA 316, which covers naturalization.  INA 320 covers the AUTOMATIC citizenship of a child once they acquire permanent residence in the US, with the acknowledged stipulations on parental citizenship, etc.  That policy has been changed and there is no longer automatic citizenship awarded to those children.  They must apply for naturalization.

 

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/08/29/new-immigration-policy-withholds-automatic-citizenship-for-some-children-of-troops-overseas/

 

The policy won’t affect children born to U.S. citizens serving abroad. Those children are still entitled to automatic citizenship, officials said.

 

“This does NOT impact birthright citizenship,” Cuccinelli said.

Birthright citizenship is guaranteed automatically to children of U.S. citizens living abroad who have established residency in the U.S.: “This policy update does not deny citizenship to the children of U.S. government employees or members of the military born abroad,” the statement indicated.

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It just doesn't make any sense. I thought that any child born with at least one American parent was automatically a citizen, regardless of place of birth. Take Ted Cruz for example: born to an American mother and Cuban father in Canada. Yet, there were no questions regarding his eligibility to become president when he ran a few years ago. How is it possible, or even justifiable, to cherry pick children of military personnel overseas and not give the same right to automatic citizenship?

Is it a trial balloon to see if they can get away with and start applying it across the board to the rest of us?

Private Saltyballs on guard duty at the US consulate in Mogadishu knocks up his Somali girlfriend.  Result = American Citizen.

This is the kind of shit that keeps Steven Miller awake at night.  100% chance why this is happening.

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Just to be clear — and I haven't been able to figure this out — if two US citizens in diplomatic or military service have a baby overseas, and they have lived all of their lives in the US apart from recently going overseas, they will now have to go through the effort of naturalizing their baby for citizenship? 

If so, that also likely means that the baby can't be president someday. 

 

No, those would be exempt. 

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https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/08/29/new-immigration-policy-withholds-automatic-citizenship-for-some-children-of-troops-overseas/

 

The policy won’t affect children born to U.S. citizens serving abroad. Those children are still entitled to automatic citizenship, officials said.

 

“This does NOT impact birthright citizenship,” Cuccinelli said.

Birthright citizenship is guaranteed automatically to children of U.S. citizens living abroad who have established residency in the U.S.: “This policy update does not deny citizenship to the children of U.S. government employees or members of the military born abroad,” the statement indicated.

That is quite literally the opposite of what the document says.

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Explains that USCIS no longer considers children of U.S. government employees and U.S. armed forces members residing outside the United States as “residing in the United States” for purposes of acquiring citizenship under INA 320.3

They no longer meet the residence standard by which automatic citizenship is conveyed.

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As someone who uses the VA regularly, you may have to explain this to me further because I don't know what the fuck he's talking about.
Then again, there's the possibility he's completely making it up.

New VA program coming. Now with more prayer healing circles and fewer liberal elitist expensive socialistic medical professionals!
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You haven’t noticed that Obama forced everyone at the VA, including patients, to pray towards Mecca 5 times per day? Bible burning in the court yard every day at sunset. 

And Obama ordered them to engage in gay sex and then have an abortion.  Don't ask how the last part worked, just know that Obama wanted them to all have abortions.

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36 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Meltdown in Qtard world:

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/i-hope-you-all-got-what-you-wanted/85042643/

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/if-comey-walks-ive-lost-all-faith/85042313/

And many more melty threads there today.



This is my current favorite over there. Started by an Aggie a week ago.  Where are the hurricanes, libtards?


https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/where-are-the-hurricanes-libtards/84923606/

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