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21 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

 

 


Bill requiring 10 years of POTUS candidate's fed tax returns to be introduced. Dotus going to opt not to run in 2020 if passed?

 

Has to go to the Senate, get passed, and go on to Trump to become law.  It might get out of the Senate, but fat chance getting him to sign it...and it having 2/3 votes to override in both chamber.

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Just now, Blotto said:

I'll continue to hope that Romney and all the other politicians that have been fucking over America get hit by a gotdamn bus. I refuse to give Romney a fucking ounve of credit for anything other than looking out for Romney.

This is the guy that instituted Romneycare in MA because it's a blue state, and then turned around and campaigned on repealing Obamacare because he needed to jackoff the GOP voting block. The man does not stand for a fucking thing. And if he thinks praising Trump in 2020 is the politically savvy move, he'll fucking do it.

Fuck yeah, this guy gets it.

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Economic collapse.  Another Great Depression (not by the initial economic crisis, but by our utter inability to deal with it).  Serious civil unrest and violence.  Charlottesville and Pittsburgh, turned up to 11 by enraged Trumpkins and Q-bots who are watching their dream die.  And, of course, my dark horse -- a serious war, possibly involving a nuclear exchange, that DOTUS just stumbles into on the way down.  For starters.  And just layer on the price paid that we can never recover -- we are never getting our position back before either our allies or enemies.  Our diminished power and influence will be permanent, and the ripples from that will run deep, and last a long time.

Serious civil unrest will not come from Trumpkins. It will come from the people who are finally fed up with their bullshit. As long as those people have a voice politically, I think mass civil unrest can be avoided. That's why November was so important.

The Republican Party is weak right now and they know it.

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3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Economic collapse.  Another Great Depression (not by the initial economic crisis, but by our utter inability to deal with it).  Serious civil unrest and violence.  Charlottesville and Pittsburgh, turned up to 11 by enraged Trumpkins and Q-bots who are watching their dream die.  And, of course, my dark horse -- a serious war, possibly involving a nuclear exchange, that DOTUS just stumbles into on the way down.  For starters.  And just layer on the price paid that we can never recover -- we are never getting our position back before either our allies or enemies.  Our diminished power and influence will be permanent, and the ripples from that will run deep, and last a long time.

The consequences will be bad in America but I think it will be worse in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa.  People don’t understand the significance of the US role in the world. We were kinda holding a lot of shit together.  (Yeah, we fuck shit up too sometimes but the good outweighed the bad for the most part).

Without the United States and many of our allies leadership, the world will become a free for all for the most powerful bad actors fighting over resources and human capital.

 Invasions and land grabs will become “doable” for authoritarian governments that thought they could never pull it off with the US in the room. 

Hillary’s emails tho.

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9 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Serious civil unrest will not come from Trumpkins. It will come from the people who are finally fed up with their bullshit. As long as those people have a voice politically, I think mass civil unrest can be avoided. That's why November was so important.

The Republican Party is weak right now and they know it.

A wounded animal is the most dangerous.  It will do anything to try to survive.

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3 minutes ago, Chooky said:

Oh, hi.  Here's some more dumb shit:

 

This is some great revisionist history.  He doesn’t even understand the Cold War or how it ended.  

Credits Afganistan for collapsing the Soviet Union.  

Completely ignores the part where we were supplying Afghanistan to fight the Soviets.

Fucking Moron

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3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

From: Mike Tackett
Date: January 2, 2019 at 1:03:38 PM EST
Subject: Pool report 5

Vice President Mike Pence noted that he too stayed in Washington over
the holiday. He too complimented the president

“I want to thank you for the strong stand you have taken on border
security,” Pence

“We’re ready to deal. We have an offer on the table, Pence said

The acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney was also in the meeting

I’ve never seen a President so insecure that he needs so much praise to stroke his fragile ego. And a cabinet so scared that they’ll say anything to keep their job. This administration is screwed up. What a joke!

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Can't remember if this has already been posted. Trump blasts Pakistan on Twitter after suspending military aid to them last year.

Now asking for help with Afghanistan. :yaoface:::

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/trump-sends-later-to-pakistan-asking-for-help-with-afghan-peace-process/2018/12/03/9fd99e88-f6f1-11e8-8d64-4e79db33382f_story.html?utm_term=.183c6be99b5e

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Trump sends letter to Pakistan asking for help with Afghan peace process
By Pamela Constable December 3, 2018

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan said Monday that he has received a letter from President Trump asking for his government’s help and cooperation in advancing peace talks with the Afghan Taliban insurgents.

Both the Foreign Ministry and Information Minister Fawad Chaudhry confirmed that the letter has been received. Chaudhry said the U.S. president told Khan that relations with Pakistan were “very important” to solving the Afghan conflict, especially in helping to bring the insurgents to the negotiating table.

The letter, which has not been publicly confirmed by U.S. officials, would be Trump’s first direct communication with Khan since the former cricket star took office as prime minister in August. As for indirect exchanges, the two leaders posted angry tweets two weeks ago after Trump told Fox News he had cut aid to Pakistan because it would “take our money and do nothing for us.”

The reported request from Trump came as his special envoy for Afghan peace, Zalmay Khalilzad, was expected to arrive in Pakistan on Tuesday for further talks on the issue. His previous visits have been received cordially but have not resulted in any concrete agreements.

The Trump administration is eager for the peace talks to move forward and the conflict to end after 17 years. Khalilzad has met with Taliban leaders and a variety of regional officials over the past several months, but there has been no breakthrough. The insurgents continue to insist that foreign forces must leave the country under any deal and that they will negotiate only with U.S. officials.

Trump has made numerous critical comments about Pakistan in the past, some of them sarcastic in tone. He suspended military aid last year to the longtime U.S. security ally, saying it had not done enough to rein in a branch of the Taliban insurgents, known as the Haqqani network, that U.S. officials believe shelters inside the Pakistani border with Afghanistan.

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41 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

This is some great revisionist history.  He doesn’t even understand the Cold War or how it ended.  

Credits Afganistan for collapsing the Soviet Union.  

Completely ignores the part where we were supplying Osama bin Laden to fight the Soviets.

Fucking Moron

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Tell me....where do all the Trumpists go?  You think they just disappear in 2020?  What about all of the conservative news outlets that have sold their soul to Trumpism -- think Fox news and the National Review decide to get right with God?

Where do the Trumpists go?  Same place they were when the US was under the brutal dictatorship of an atheist, Muslim, Marxist, Socialist, Communist African Kenyan Warlord from Chicago named Barrack Hussein Obama.  Back to Facebook and email lists and bitching over the family dinner.  

Fox News goes where the money is.  Same with National Review. 

 They fired Roger Ailes and Bill O’Reilly because they cost them money.   If I traveled back in time three years and told you they were going to be fired, your first thought would be “where the fuck did you get a time machine?” And your second thought would be “yeah, sure, you betcha, Roger Ailes and Bill O’Reilly are at Fox News until they die!”

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Somebody mentioned Trumpkins freaking out over Romney.   

Romeny is ultra-high profile for a Republican, with a national profile.   A lot of moderates liked him.  

He’s a Mormon.   Utah sent around a quarter of their votes to an independent Mormon.  A more well-known candidate could have racked up another 20 points and nabbed 6 electoral votes.   

Trumpkins desperatley need electoral votes.  November saw the equivalent loss of around 55 electoral votes in states that flipped to the Dems.  States that Trump personally campaigned in last year.   States that Trump said were crucial to advancing his agenda.  

NC, FL, and GA are probably in play as well.

Trump is close to critical mass as far as losing in 2020.  People like Romney represent a true threat, because Romney is coming in hot off the heels of those Trump losses a few months ago.  

And Mueller hasn’t even worked on the Trump family, and Trump’s economic policies haven’t fully hurt those states he has lost and needs to win back.  

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7 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Y’all don’t fret! America has some hot ass generals, so we’re in good, hot hands.
 

 


Someone needs to tranq this idiot motherfucker.

 

I just realized something. 

I don't think in all the pee tape / dossier stuff it ever confirmed that the Russian prostitutes were female.... 

NTTAWWT of course. But the alternative would be great for the lulz

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7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

What's fucking nuts is that these people are never going to see reality.  They will go to their graves thinking this shit is real.  Some of them might live another 70 years.  They will harbor this fictitious conspiracy theory for decades.

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I’m embarrassed that Alex Jones lives in Austin. That guy must of had some messed up upbringing because whatever brain cells he has are really screwed up. Truthfully it’s all about money. The crazier, the more he makes. He and Ann Coulter must be related. 

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43 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Somebody mentioned Trumpkins freaking out over Romney.   

Romeny is ultra-high profile for a Republican, with a national profile.   A lot of moderates liked him.  

He’s a Mormon.   Utah sent around a quarter of their votes to an independent Mormon.  A more well-known candidate could have racked up another 20 points and nabbed 6 electoral votes.   

Trumpkins desperatley need electoral votes.  November saw the equivalent loss of around 55 electoral votes in states that flipped to the Dems.  States that Trump personally campaigned in last year.   States that Trump said were crucial to advancing his agenda.  

NC, FL, and GA are probably in play as well.

Trump is close to critical mass as far as losing in 2020.  People like Romney represent a true threat, because Romney is coming in hot off the heels of those Trump losses a few months ago.  

And Mueller hasn’t even worked on the Trump family, and Trump’s economic policies haven’t fully hurt those states he has lost and needs to win back.  

Mormons were huge Trump supporters. However they will be the first to bale on him for morality reasons. Although fringey in the Christian spectrum they have way more integrity than the fundamentalists and evangelicals.

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1 minute ago, ADHD said:

Mormons were huge Trump supporters. However they will be the first to bale on him for morality reasons. Although fringey in the Christian spectrum they have way more integrity than the fundamentalists and evangelicals.

27% of the Utah vote went for an indie Mormon.   That’s kind of a large number of people.  

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41 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Why do these tin foil hat idiots seem fixated on pedophiles?

In prison culture it's the line between good and evil. All these guys are white collar criminals, drug addicts, sex escort fiends, S&M fetishists and pseudo mobsters, so they find moral separation in kid trafficking.  

They should obviously look at the Bible thumpers (like Roy Moore) and Catholic enclaves (like the Vatican) to find the child sex trade they so dearly want to find.

Their implication is this is creepy Sorosesque illuminati stuff tucked away in Hollyweird and in House of Cards DC clubs, which it is, in abnormal amounts.

It's a rich guy thing. And probably an apolitical one. Anyway nobody *really* cares about anybody else other than in the imaginary (not unlike the intangible love of fetuses by pro lifers) because sex trafficking continues unabated. Roy Moore got plenty of votes. The Pope is still divine. And Jodie Foster look alikes are still turning tricks in Vegas while Travis Bickle drives an Uber. 

He's the only guy who cares.

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3 hours ago, Amos Moses said:

Race and religious tensions underlie all of this.  Older whites don't want their way of life changed, whether by brown people, the non-religious, or alternative lifestyle living citizens.  

I don’t think race and religion are the biggest factor for a lot of the older folks, I think it’s economic tension.  A lot of them look retirement-age, and you talk to the ones who didn’t retire from six-figure jobs with a nice nest egg, and money is a huge fear in their lives.  

The race and religion stuff can be an issue, but it’s more of a symptom than a root cause - this group had to deal with that shit in the 50s/60s/70s, and they just came off of an 8-year run under a black atheist, Muslim, CommUnist, Marxist, etc. Kenyan President.  

These people are scared for their company pensions, Social Security, etc.  

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

And I'm not trying to sell a "woe is us" -- really, I'm not. 

You’ve previously said that our republic is already dead, and now you add the following comments. And your attitude isn’t “woe is us”?

3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Economic collapse.  Another Great Depression...Serious civil unrest and violence.  And, of course, my dark horse -- a serious war, possibly involving a nuclear exchange.....we are never getting our position back before either our allies or enemies.  Our diminished power and influence will be permanent, and the ripples from that will run deep, and last a long time.

 

3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

There is no reform.  There is no remission or dormancy of this disease.  You either eradicate it, or die from it.  Those are our choices.

 

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35 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

He’s pissed that he wasn’t able to capitalize on the QAnon fans.  Or that he didn’t come up with such a large movement so quickly.  It’s got to piss him off.  

 I bet almost all of them are already fans. Alex Jones probably prepared the softening of their brains for the advanced levels of being even more lintentionally stupid.

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Where do the Trumpists go?  Same place they were when the US was under the brutal dictatorship of an atheist, Muslim, Marxist, Socialist, Communist African Kenyan Warlord from Chicago named Barrack Hussein Obama.  Back to Facebook and email lists and bitching over the family dinner.  

Fox News goes where the money is.  Same with National Review. 

 They fired Roger Ailes and Bill O’Reilly because they cost them money.   If I traveled back in time three years and told you they were going to be fired, your first thought would be “where the fuck did you get a time machine?” And your second thought would be “yeah, sure, you betcha, Roger Ailes and Bill O’Reilly are at Fox News until they die!”

I've got the jump on most of y'all on Rupert Murdoch because I lived in the UK from 1992-95 and studied his operations there closely. He will cut a bitch if he thinks he is costing him money, and he is the one pulling the strings on this presidency. He threw the Tories overboard and saw to it that Blair was elected and he will do the same to Trump when he thinks the time is right. It'll be a sight to see when Fox starts stumping for some Dem who has pledged to kiss Rupert's wrinkly old ass. The bad part is, they will have pledged to kiss Rupert's wrinkly old ass, and that fucking Aussie skeletor is still running the English-speaking world. In terms of super-villainy, he gives Dick Cheney a serious run for his money.   

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Yeah, I wish Flake and Romney were more like Rand Paul and McConnell.  We’d be so much better off.


It’s not either or and at least Paul and McConnell own their evil.

Romney and Flake are trying to slip it in the backdoor without even buying me a drink.

I don’t give a fuck about their OpEds and furrowed brows and statements of concern if they’re going to turn around and vote in lockstep with Trump.

That’s nothing but lipstick on a pig.

Romney is fine with the end results of all Trump’s actions - he just wants him to wash his mouth out with soap and obfuscate his intentions with platitudes to make it all more palatable.

Nah, fuck that. At the end of the day there’s literally no difference between Paul and McConnell and Romney and Flake. They all fall in line for Trump no matter what they say.
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18 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

There are times I feel like the only O&G guy that voted for Hillary.  I know a lot of Trump voters that got laid off and probably can’t afford $2.00 gas.  Fuck ‘em.

Yep.  Certain areas will remain insane (Permian, STACK/SCOOP, etc), but I know a whole lot of field level guys here in the Anadarko Basin and west into the Panhandle that have been laid off or their employers have cashed out and left them behind.  They populate all the little hole-in-the-wall diners in this wasteland and bitch about foreigners and NFL players and talk about how they're prepping for the upcoming civil war.  It's neither politics or self-preservation to these people any more.  It's their identity now.

It would be funny if it wasn't so damn sad.  Or vice versa.

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

27% of the Utah vote went for an indie Mormon.   That’s kind of a large number of people.  

Whatever you think of Mormons, they tend to be highly educated.  And in the current realignment of our political culture, that makes them a lot less likely to be Republican than they were five years ago.

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