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4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

See, where I think this line of thinking goes astray is that y'all lump "our people" into one big pathology.  It's just not true.  There may be certain negative character traits shared by most Americans, but the worst of those are by no means universal.

I realism nihilism is fun -- if you're a 20 year old college undergrad.  Eventually, it becomes pointless.

yeah, the older you get, it can get exhausting

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56 minutes ago, Bookman said:

Still can’t believe 63,000,000 of my fellow Americans voted for this piece of shit to become President. Not sure I’ll ever understand what the fuck they were thinking. 

there are tens of millions of people in this country who currently think Trump is doing a great job.   not a few thousand, but TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.  they're called Republicans. 

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4 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

The president needs me. I think I will triple my past contributions which somebody will quadruple match. How can dear Donald offer a quadruple match, is that legal? It must be if he's doing it.

And he really cares about my support. He instructed his team to bring him my donor records! Maybe he was in Air Force One when he read my name. The Libs won't turn us into a socialist republic filled with nigras and Messicans on my watch!

We gotta fight those Hollywood fags and Crazy Joe, and Lazy Bernie and Pocahontas!

KAG!!!!!!

 

 

You know, after reading this Dear Sean Roma letter, containing just the right amount of pandering, guilt-inducing, self-importance, and understated 'we're watching you threat' ("You really want to be on my list don't you?" It does make you think that Volodymyr Zelensky might have received a phone call not unlike Sean's Roma's letter, doesn't it? The exception being that it was probably light on the pandering and heavy on the 'we're watching you.'

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1 hour ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

 

Someone on this board has a dad with a master's degree in history who teaches history in high school. To get a masters in history, you have to really refine your critical thinking skills. This history teacher has the Fox News brain rot, so this little anecdotal story tells me our problem is significantly deeper than schools and society nurturing critical thinking skills among young people. 

That would be my dad. In fairness, he's been retired since the mid-90s, so his brain has had plenty of time to rot.

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24 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Oh, he was torn up that night.  Or he tore somebody else up.  NTTIAWWT

Probably took part in the celebratory Lindsay graham train. I’m betting captain mike was the caboose. 

In other news can you imagine having to be married to that turd? Was his wife Adolph hitler in her previous life? 

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You know, if you told me 10 years ago, a group of Americans would embrace the Russians in the 2010s, I would have guessed it would be hipsters/millennials, trying to be ironic, or just having a complete lack of awareness about the Cold War.    But no, it’s the boomer Republicans who lived through the bulk of the Cold War, and who swore they’d rather be dead than red.  

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

You know, if you told me 10 years ago, a group of Americans would embrace the Russians in the 2010s, I would have guessed it would be hipsters/millennials, trying to be ironic, or just having a complete lack of awareness about the Cold War.    But no, it’s the boomer Republicans who lived through the bulk of the Cold War, and who swore they’d rather be dead than red.  

They will go down in history as the worst and most easily manipulated generation in American history. Trump is the ultimate embodiment of them.

It’s a shame for the good people of that generation but it is what it is. They’ve been outnumbered by the manipulated and the pieces of shit. Nothing could have been done about the latter but they could have stopped the former, but didn’t. 

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Something about optics, no fucks to give, etc.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/giuliani-set-to-make-paid-appearance-next-week-at-kremlin-backed-conference/2019/09/27/a15ab242-e133-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

 

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Rudolph W. Giuliani, whose actions as President Trump’s personal lawyer have helped set in motion an impeachment inquiry, is set to appear as a paid speaker at a Kremlin-backed conference in Armenia on Tuesday — an event expected to include the participation of Russian President Vladi­mir Putin and other top Russian officials.

Giuliani confirmed to The Washington Post on Friday that he plans to take part in a panel at the conference sponsored by Russia and the Moscow-based Eurasian Economic Union, a trade alliance launched by Putin in 2014 as a counterweight to the European Union.

 

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According to an agenda for the event posted online, Giuliani is set to participate in a panel led by Sergey Glazyev, a longtime Putin adviser who has been under U.S. sanctions since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine five years ago.

Giuliani’s decision to take part in the conference astounded national security experts. His scheduled appearance comes days after the release of a whistleblower complaint accusing Trump and Giuliani of pressuring Ukrainian officials for damaging information about Democrats.

 

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3 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

I agree.  They are just as bad as the olds at identifying facts, and some studies are bearing that out.  They can fall into the same trap, albeit it from the opposite direction.  They may seek out all these different sources, but then they just latch on to the one they want to believe.   Critical thinking is shit throughout the current generations in America.

It is easy to distrust things you don’t want to hear.  It is much harder to be skeptical of things that reinforce your feelings and admit you’re wrong.  The olds and the youngs now have the internet as a resource to find someone, somewhere, that says the thing that reinforces their feelings.  It’s not an information tool.  It’s a validation tool.

Meh, maybe some of them are.  But judging from my own kids a lot are just tired of information overload, they know what’s right or wrong but mainly they want everyone to just shut up so they can focus on creating a life for themselves and their families.   They are likely to tell you what you want to hear to shut you up and then go vote their conscience anyway.  Admittedly you are right about a lot of young kids who’ve been brainwashed by their parents.  But many are just like “stop using your endless free time and energy creating this dust storm so I can see where the fuck I’m going “. 

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7 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

This.  We are seeing perhaps the most gullible generation in our history, because they were trained to trust.  They believed Uncle Walter, for example.  But now, with the explosion of news sources, they succumb to their natural human inclination to find the one that most closely reflects their worldview....and then they trust it completely, without question.  

The issue is not that they distrust CNN, the NYT, the Economist, etc.  It all springs from the fact that once they choose to trust one source -- Cronkite then, or Fox News now - then everything else is necessarily untrustworthy bullshit.

Contrast them with Gen Z and Millenials -- they don't trust shit.  If they are interested in a story, they dig into the facts on their own, because they have been raised in an environment where there are dozens of sources talking about the same thing, but saying wildly different things.  Instead of deciding that one of those sources is trustworthy, must not be questioned, and everything else is a lie, they instead exercised the rational thought of "maybe I shouldn't trust anything at face value."  They are some skeptical motherfuckers.  And that's good.

Gen Z: "Whatever"

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Someone on this board has a dad with a master's degree in history who teaches history in high school. To get a masters in history, you have to really refine your critical thinking skills. This history teacher has the Fox News brain rot, so this little anecdotal story tells me our problem is significantly deeper than schools and society nurturing critical thinking skills among young people. 


Two different subjects. For Gen Z, where are they now compared to past generations at their age? Hint: It’s worse in many respects. For current olds, what is happening to them at this current time? Compare current Olds with past Olds.

Nixon had similar polling numbers with the Olds of his time. Tough on commies and hippies! But there is a difference and its the anti-government sentiment of the current Republican party and media.
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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

So Rudy is claiming attorney-client privilege in asserting he won't testify without Trump's blessing.  Sounds to me as if this implies his interactions with Ukrainian officials weren't on behalf of the US, but rather Trump, which kinda blows Trump's defense, doesn't it?

But he already said he went to Ukraine by order of the State Dept. Which Rudy are we to believe?

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10 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

But he already said he went to Ukraine by order of the State Dept. Which Rudy are we to believe?

Well, I think it's obvious -- Trump makes no effort to distinguish personal from professional duties.  This is a big part of the problem.  I'm no constitutional scholar, but I would think that this near-complete blurring of lines strengthens the impeachment argument, but of course, Trump and his supporters will claim the opposite.

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17 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, I think it's obvious -- Trump makes no effort to distinguish personal from professional duties.  This is a big part of the problem.  I'm no constitutional scholar, but I would think that this near-complete blurring of lines strengthens the impeachment argument, but of course, Trump and his supporters will claim the opposite.

“He does so much for the country.”

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Well, I think it's obvious -- Trump makes no effort to distinguish personal from professional duties.  This is a big part of the problem.  I'm no constitutional scholar, but I would think that this near-complete blurring of lines strengthens the impeachment argument, but of course, Trump and his supporters will claim the opposite.


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