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2 hours ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Trump was either playing golf or rubbing one out to a picture of Ivanka at the time of the raid.

Then showed up for a staged photo.

 

2 hours ago, triplehorn said:

He was golfing when the raid happened.

and evidently the guy killed has some paralysis from combat injuries and formally passed on leadership months ago.

 

1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

Trump was playing golf like a dog.

 

 

 

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He was golfing when the raid happened.
and evidently the guy killed has some paralysis from combat injuries and formally passed on leadership months ago.

Let me guess: we’ve had intel on him for a while, kept loose surveillance on him to see if he had any visitors, but pulled the trigger now because we’re leaving or that Trump needs a photo?
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21 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The Astros have some Mexicans and one or two of Puerto Rican descent, so if Trump doesn’t get his knob slobbed, I’m sure he will tweet about how they turned a profit after Harvey or something.  

Oh. He’s definitely rooting against the Astros and for the Nationalists.  

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6 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

This does come across like Russia/Syria let us go after this guy now that we agreed to leave. I also don’t think this is that big of a deal. Glad the guy was finally taken out but meh.

Yep. Somebody else always steps up. I'm glad we do this, but I don't count the incidents as even a major victory in the war against the terrorists who mean us harm.

We pissed that kind of victory away when Trump smilingly submitted to the leader of Turkey.

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51 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Don"t delay! You, too, can rate the President by taking a poll. If you rate him poorly, expect a visit from some guys he knows. After all he just took out the #1 terrorist leader, so a little p*ssant won't be missed.

 

Except your can’t rate him poorly.  Worse you can rate him is ‘Okay’.  So I just he gets 100% positive ratings from this poll.  Snowflake.

 

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10 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

"Very frightened puppies." "Died like a dog."

What's his deal with canines?

If my hours of playing DotA2 with Russians taught me anything, it is that Russians love to call people dogs when they are unhappy. Maybe he picked it up over the years from all the Russians he has helped launder cash for over the last few decades. Maybe he heard Putin use it and wants to emulate him. Who knows.

Looked it up: 

In the Russian Orthodox past, the dog was considered an unclean animal, as elsewhere in the world. Now, “dog” serves as an abusive interjection, when one wants to express annoyance. Calling someone a dog would mean you disapprove: “My cat has knocked over the flower pots again, the dog!”

 

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NYT raining on Trump's parade.  Sounds like the mission succeeded in spite of Trump, not because of him...his decision on a whim to pull out of Syria rendered months of planning moot....oh, and he knew all of that and still did it.  Fucking retard.

Also sounds like Kurds were instrumental in helping the US find al-Baghdadi...

Thanks for your help, now have fun being slaughtered by the Turks, Trump out.

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WASHINGTON — President Trump knew the Central Intelligence Agency and Special Operations commandos were zeroing in on the location for Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Islamic State leader, when he ordered American troops to withdraw from northern Syria earlier this month, intelligence, military and counterterrorism officials said on Sunday.

For months, intelligence officials had kept Mr. Trump apprised of what he had set as a top priority, the hunt for Mr. al-Baghdadi, the world’s most wanted terrorist.

But Mr. Trump’s abrupt withdrawal order three weeks ago disrupted the meticulous planning underway and forced Pentagon officials to speed up the plan for the risky night raid before their ability to control troops, spies and reconnaissance aircraft disappeared with the pullout, the officials said.

Mr. al-Baghdadi’s death in the raid on Saturday, they said, occurred largely in spite of, and not because of, Mr. Trump’s actions.

It is unclear how much Mr. Trump considered the intelligence on Mr. al-Baghdadi’s location when he made the surprise decision to withdraw the American troops during a telephone call on Oct. 6 with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey. What is clear, military officials said, is that it put commanders on the ground under even more pressure to carry out the complicated operation.

More than a half-dozen Pentagon, military, intelligence and counterterrorism officials — along with Mr. Trump, who gave an account during a White House news conference on Sunday — provided a chronology of the raid.

The planning for the raid began this past summer, when the C.I.A. first got surprising information about Mr. al-Baghdadi’s general location in a village deep inside a part of northwestern Syria controlled by rival Qaeda groups. The information came after the arrest and interrogation of one of Mr. al-Baghdadi’s wives and a courier, two American officials said.

Armed with that initial tip, the C.I.A. worked closely with Iraqi and Kurdish intelligence officials in Iraq and Syria to identify more precisely Mr. al-Baghdadi’s whereabouts and to put spies in place to monitor his periodic movements. American officials said the Kurds continued to provide information to the C.I.A. on Mr. al-Baghdadi’s location even after Mr. Trump’s decision to withdraw the American troops left the Syrian Kurds to confront a Turkish offensive alone.

The Syrian and Iraqi Kurds, one official said, provided more intelligence for the raid than any single country.

According to a Syrian engineer who spoke with villagers living near the raid site, Mr. al-Baghdadi had sought shelter in the home of Abu Mohammed Salama, a commander of another extremist group, Hurras al-Din. The commander’s fate in that raid, and the precise nature of his relationship to Mr. al-Baghdadi, are not clear.¶

As the Army’s elite Delta Force commando unit began drawing up and rehearsing plans to conduct the mission to kill or capture the ISIS leader, they knew they faced formidable hurdles. The location was deep inside territory controlled by Al Qaeda. The skies over that part of the country were controlled by Syria and Russia.

The military called off missions at least twice at the last minute.

The final planning for the raid came together over two to three days last week. A senior administration official said that Mr. al-Baghdadi was “about to move.” Military officials determined that they had to go swiftly. If Mr. al-Baghdadi moved again, it would be much harder to track him with the American military pulling out its troops and surveillance assets on the ground in Syria.

By Thursday and then Friday, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said on ABC’s “This Week,” Mr. Trump “gave us the green light to proceed.’’

Around midnight Sunday morning in the region — 5 p.m. Saturday in Washington — eight American helicopters, primarily CH-47 Chinooks, took off from a military base near Erbil, Iraq.

Flying low and fast to avoid detection, the helicopters quickly crossed the Syrian border and then flew all the way across Syria itself — a dangerous 70-minute flight in which the helicopters took sporadic groundfire — to the Barisha area just north of Idlib city, in western Syria. Just before landing, the helicopters and other warplanes began firing on a compound of buildings, providing cover for commandos with the Delta Force and their military dogs to descend into a landing zone.

Mr. Trump said that with the helicopter gunships firing from above, the commandos had bypassed the front door, fearing a booby trap, before destroying one of the compound’s walls. That allowed them to rush through and confront a group of ISIS fighters.

The president, along with Mr. Esper, Vice President Mike Pence and Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, watched video of the raid piped into the White House Situation Room from surveillance aircraft orbiting over the battlefield.

The Delta Force commandos, under fire, entered the compound, where they shot and killed a number of people. As the Delta Force team breached the wall with explosives, an Arabic linguist advised children and other noncombatants how to flee, a decision commanders credited with saving 11 of the children Mr. al-Baghdadi had in his compound.

Mr. al-Baghdadi ran into an underground tunnel, with the American commandos in pursuit. Mr. Trump said that the ISIS leader took three children with him, presumably to use as human shields from the American fire. Fearing that Mr. al-Baghdadi was wearing a suicide vest, the commandos dispatched a military dog to subdue Mr. al-Baghdadi, Mr. Trump said.

It was then that the Islamic State leader set off the explosives, killing the three children, Mr. Trump said.

Mr. Esper described the climax of the two-hour ground raid on “This Week” this way: “He’s in a compound, that’s right, with a few other men and women with him and a large number of children. Our special operators have tactics and techniques and procedures they go through to try and call them out. At the end of the day, as the president said, he decided to kill himself and took some small children with him, we believe.”

Mr. Trump was more descriptive. “I got to watch much of it,” he said. Mr. al-Baghdadi, he said, “died after running into a dead-end tunnel, whimpering and crying and screaming all the way.”

Mr. Esper did not repeat the “whimpering” and “crying” assertion made by Mr. Trump. “I don’t have those details,” he said. “The president probably had the opportunity to talk to the commanders on the ground.”

At 7:15 p.m. Washington time on Saturday, the Special Operations commander on the ground reported that Mr. al-Baghdadi had been killed. Five other “enemy combatants” were killed in the compound, the White House said, and “additional enemies were killed in the vicinity.”

Two American service members were slightly wounded, the White House said, but have returned to duty. The American military dog was wounded in Mr. al-Baghdadi’s suicide-vest explosion and was taken away, Mr. Trump said.

After the raid, the commandos removed the 11 children from the site and handed them over to a woman in the area. The military then ordered the destruction of the site, to ensure it would not in the future become a shrine to ISIS, according to a person familiar with the operation.

Altogether, the American troops were on the ground in the compound for around two hours, Mr. Trump said, clearing the buildings of fighters and scooping up information that the president said contained important details on ISIS operations. Mr. Trump said the commandos already had DNA samples from the Islamic State leader, which he said they used to make a quick assessment that they had the right man.

Once all the Americans had piled back into their helicopters and started the return flight to Iraq — using the same route out as they had used coming in, Mr. Trump said — American warplanes bombed the compound to ensure it was physically destroyed, Mr. Esper said. Just after 9 p.m. Washington time Saturday — four hours after the helicopters had taken off — Mr. Trump tweeted, “Something very big has just happened!”

 

 

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$20 says he claims it was selective editing.  The crowd was actually cheering him, and booing the Marines.  Which of course, in his world, makes all kinds of sense.  

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1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

Altogether, the American troops were on the ground in the compound for around two hours, Mr. Trump said, clearing the buildings of fighters and scooping up information that the president said contained important details on ISIS operations. Mr. Trump said the commandos already had DNA samples from the Islamic State leader, which he said they used to make a quick assessment that they had the right man.

So they were carrying laptops and doing DNA analysis on the spot.  

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1 hour ago, Tuco said:

I bet he’s surprised when people boo him at the game. I bet he thinks people will think he’s a hero.

Yep.  Watch his face.  The moment he realizes he's being booed, he turns to Melania with a "woaaaah" and then plasters a fake smile on his face:

 

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