Kingsbury interviewing for NFL Jobs

[Dirk X West 772]

1 minute ago, Mileslong said:

Oh I didn’t know you were on the Arizona staff, my bad

I didn't know you had to work for an NFL team to speculate about what they might do.  You'd better tell everyone else here.

[Mileslong 4,727]

I didn't know you had to work for an NFL team to speculate about what they might do.  You'd better tell everyone else here.

You implied he didn’t have a say, are you fucking regarded?

[Dirk X West 772]

Just now, Mileslong said:

You implied he didn’t have a say, are you fucking regarded?

I said "I imagine the GM there will hire the DC."  - key word: imagine. Can you fucking read?

[Fozzz 152]

5 minutes ago, slorch said:

There are copious examples of same ole, same ole retreads producing jack shit. 

Maybe they can get real out-of-the-box and start hiring high school coaches.

[RPM 26,318]

Offseason wars, begun they have.

[Fozzz 152]

Which NFL team is gonna hire Major?

[Mileslong 4,727]

I said "I imagine the GM there will hire the DC."  - key word: imagine. Can you fucking read?

And you then said your statement implied that the GM would hire the DC. Jesus h dude

[otisdog 365]

31 minutes ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

The tinfoil hat in me thinks the whole thing was coordinated.  USC hired him temporarily to save recruiting and Arizona didn't mind waiting so they could announce hiring "usc's offensive coordinator" rather than "the coach recently fired from Texas fucking tech." 

SC doesn't have this kind of foresight...they were  wandering blind down the hallway, and KK's doorknob was the first that they found. As much as the trojan faithful badmouth Hayden, he was much more functional than Lynn Swann.

Edited January 8, 2019 by otisdog

[Chad 1,728]

Kliff couldn't be any worse than Hue Jackson......right?

[Michael Knight 12,977]

36 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

His offenses at Tech weren't really that special when he didn't have a generational talent like Mahomes at QB.

He's tied to Mahomes and Baker Mayfield and has put a bunch of WR's into the league. Everyone complains when the NFL doesn't take chances, sure Kliff isn't ideal but at least hes moderately different.  At least they didn't hire Jon Gruden

Edited January 8, 2019 by Michael Knight

[Dirk X West 772]

1 minute ago, Mileslong said:

And you then said your statement implied that the GM would hire the DC. Jesus h dude

Yes, my *guess* as to what *might* happen is that I think he won't get input into the hiring of the DC. Why is this so difficult for you?

[Braff Zacklin 13,558]

I don't get this hire, I really don't.

If the dude was as good with QBs as his reputation, then why did a talent like Mahomes only win 50 percent of his starts? "Defense" isn't enough of an excuse--a great QB should be enough to win you more than half of your games even with a terrible defense.

[Mileslong 4,727]

Yes, my *guess* as to what *might* happen is that I think he won't get input into the hiring of the DC. Why is this so difficult for you?

Because you word it like a 13 year old would. This thread has now been Dirka’d

[Dirk X West 772]

1 minute ago, Mileslong said:

Because you word it like a 23 year old would. This thread has now been Dirka’d

OK, guy.  You seem to be the only one struggling here.

[UcancallmeSurly 451]

24 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

I don't watch much NFL football, but are there any recent examples of someone with Klifford's qualifications landing a HC job?  

[Handcruser 2,805]

An NFL team that hires a retread coach makes money. If they win big with the retread coach they make more money.

An NFL team that takes a chance on a coach (no matter how dumb) makes money. If they happen to win big then they make more money.

It is really a cant lose proposition.


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[mr. sunshine 2,824]

22 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Which NFL team is gonna hire Major?

The South Austin Cholas. It’s an expansion team. Right Vic?

[Harrison Stafford 3,335]

So, what's your favorite moment of the Kliff Kingsbury era at USC?

[ztejas 43,418]

Lol USC

They are about to get familiar with the desert of 6 loss seasons

[futureman 22,452]

1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

This guy is one of the 5 best offensive minds in all of football”

lol what?!

name 5 better minds. 

[futureman 22,452]

1 hour ago, Handcruser said:

An NFL team that hires a retread coach makes money. If they win big with the retread coach they make more money.

An NFL team that takes a chance on a coach (no matter how dumb) makes money. If they happen to win big then they make more money.

[Sock Drawer 214]

1 minute ago, futureman said:

name 5 better minds. 

Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking. Isaac Newton, Galileo Galilei, and Wernher Von Braun.

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2,732]

He still looks like a jackelope.

[Js1 85,310]

1 hour ago, Harrison Stafford said:

So, what's your favorite moment of the Kliff Kingsbury era at USC?

He probably nailed half the student body in the time he was there. I’ll let y’all decide which half 

[ButtFumble 5,172]

37 minutes ago, futureman said:

name 5 better minds. 

charlie weiss that is two right there

[Hmbre97 6,305]

So, what's your favorite moment of the Kliff Kingsbury era at USC?

 

[demos 3,002]

The South Austin Cholas. It’s an expansion team. Right Vic?

Well, the cholas are expanding.

[Bozo_Casanova 26,444]

name 5 better minds. 

Neils Bohr, Grace Potter, Tyco Brahe, Buckminster Fuller, and Brian May.

[Brothahorn 10,087]

What a fucking joke, Arizona is. Firing a coach after one year. Now hiring wonder boy. Who, sucked as a college head coach.

I guess their new demo is Milfs.

[gmr548 16,576]

24 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Lane Kiffin was unqualified when he got the Raiders job, but that was right after he had been OC for USC when they were lighting up the scoreboard with Bush, Leinart, et al.   He hadn’t failed yet at that point.  I don’t understand how a failed college coach is even a candidate for an NFL head coaching job.  

Just as one example, Holgorsen has just as good or probably even a better track record of putting up big offensive numbers in that system as a coordinator and head coach, a better record as head coach at a comparable school, and more experience, and he’s getting a job at UH.  What is so special about Kliff?

He fine

[PilotsError 2,287]

24 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Lane Kiffin was unqualified when he got the Raiders job, but that was right after he had been OC for USC when they were lighting up the scoreboard with Bush, Leinart, et al.   He hadn’t failed yet at that point.  I don’t understand how a failed college coach is even a candidate for an NFL head coaching job.  

Just as one example, Holgorsen has just as good or probably even a better track record of putting up big offensive numbers in that system as a coordinator and head coach, a better record as head coach at a comparable school, and more experience, and he’s getting a job at UH.  What is so special about Kliff?

It's been explained.  KK is connected, however tenuously, to Mahomes and Mayfield.  Add his looks and charisma, and he zero choice but to fail upwards.  It's how people think.

[Dirk X West 772]

Just now, PilotsError said:

It's been explained.  KK is connected, however tenuously, to Mahomes and Mayfield.  Add his looks and charisma, and he zero choice but to fail upwards.  It's how people think.

I don't think he's qualified for this job, but how exactly is his connection to Mahomes "tenuous"?

[Bevo14 8,304]

My dude fell upward harder than Lane Kiffin did.

That said, I can see the logic. 

Edited January 9, 2019 by Bevo14

[futureman 22,452]

1 hour ago, Sock Drawer said:

Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking. Isaac Newton, Galileo Galilei, and Wernher Von Braun.

if they’re that smart why are they dead?

[ChiTownDoc 21,151]

Seems Baker and Kliff did ok being Tech rejects.  

[Leamas 29]

I refuse to believe Kingsbury keeps getting decent jobs because of his looks. That just sounds absurd. I am beautiful, but can't make money off of that.

[Dewey 3,286]

I think it's similar to Hollywood and how Travolta landed gigs.

[Dbeasy 15,047]

I don't get this hire, I really don't.
If the dude was as good with QBs as his reputation, then why did a talent like Mahomes only win 50 percent of his starts? "Defense" isn't enough of an excuse--a great QB should be enough to win you more than half of your games even with a terrible defense.

Cross post from NFL thread

I believe Arizona hired Kliff knowing he’s not a very good head coach and simply wants the Air Raid system and Kliff was the most expedient way to get it. I would not at all be surprised to see him get booted very quickly in his tenure.

[futureman 22,452]

19 minutes ago, Leamas said:

I am beautiful, but can't make money off of that.

well then clearly you aren’t that beautiful. 

[aggie08 21,496]

33 minutes ago, Leamas said:

I refuse to believe Kingsbury keeps getting decent jobs because of his looks. That just sounds absurd. I am beautiful, but can't make money off of that.

Timing helps. Sean McVay is the new big thing. Everybody wants one. If he looked like Seth Rogen (or some other perfectly average, overweight dude), he wouldn't have gotten this job.

NFL Head Coach has finally joined the billions of other jobs where appearances matter, no matter how much they're legally required to say they don't.

[Your Mom 4,805]

I don't think the "He lost at Tech" argument holds much water.  It's Tech.  They will never recruit well.  Ever.  They will never compete for anything longer than a fluke year or two.  The NFL recognizes that and couldn't care less if he won in that shithole.  Who could?  Bill Belichick wouldn't win much at Tech. 

They know he coached a few 3-star and 2 -star QBs into the NFL.  He make or may not succeed in the league but I don't think it's all that far-fetched.  He'd have probably made a fine coordinator... but I'm all for taking chances and getting the NFL to stop recycling old has-beens.

[ChiTownDoc 21,151]

4 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

I don't think the "He lost at Tech" argument holds much water.  It's Tech.  They will never recruit well.  Ever.  They will never compete for anything longer than a fluke year or two.  The NFL recognizes that and couldn't care less if he won in that shithole.  Who could?  Bill Belichick wouldn't win much at Tech. 

They know he coached a few 3-star and 2 -star QBs into the NFL.  He make or may not succeed in the league but I don't think it's all that far-fetched.  He'd have probably made a fine coordinator... but I'm all for taking chances and getting the NFL to stop recycling old has-beens.

Ouch.  Lol

I do agree they need to start recycling young has-beens.  

Edited January 9, 2019 by ChiTownDoc

[Braff Zacklin 13,558]

17 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

Who could?  Bill Belichick wouldn't win much at Tech. 

The Pirate won a good deal more than he lost at Tech ... never had a losing season, in fact.

[Dirk X West 772]

26 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

I don't think the "He lost at Tech" argument holds much water.  It's Tech.  They will never recruit well.  Ever.  They will never compete for anything longer than a fluke year or two.  The NFL recognizes that and couldn't care less if he won in that shithole.  Who could?  Bill Belichick wouldn't win much at Tech. 

Kliff had 4 losing seasons in 6 years and 3 in a row before he got fired.  David McWilliams, Spike Dykes, Leach and Tuberville had 3 losing seasons between them in the 27 years before Kliff.  I don't think the "Tech is a losing program, so you can't blame Kliff" argument holds much water.  Kliff was a failure at Tech.

Edited January 9, 2019 by Dirk X West

[Magus Ossis 2,797]

5 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

The Pirate won a good deal more than he lost at Tech ... never had a losing season, in fact.

Tech was in a bowl every year over that span. No other B12 school was.

[Rusty Shackelford 414]

I don't get this hire, I really don't.
If the dude was as good with QBs as his reputation, then why did a talent like Mahomes only win 50 percent of his starts? "Defense" isn't enough of an excuse--a great QB should be enough to win you more than half of your games even with a terrible defense.

What about pass protection and a running game? He didn’t have that either. Tech had some terrible assistant coaches then too, before Kliff was forced to get rid of some of his bros and get some real coaches.

[Kyle 207]

Craziest hire ever.

[CooterBrown 18,006]

I refuse to believe Kingsbury keeps getting decent jobs because of his looks. That just sounds absurd. I am beautiful, but can't make money off of that.

 

If you gave good head like Kliff does, you would.

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5 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

I don't get this hire, I really don't.

If the dude was as good with QBs as his reputation, then why did a talent like Mahomes only win 50 percent of his starts? "Defense" isn't enough of an excuse--a great QB should be enough to win you more than half of your games even with a terrible defense.

He threw for 734 yards against OU and fucking lost, while Tech scored 59 points.

He threw for 370 yards and 4 TDS against LSU and lost.

Could go On and on.

 

Offense was hardly the issue.  Ever.

Edited January 9, 2019 by slorch

[Valmy77 13,226]

2 hours ago, Dirk X West said:

Kliff had 4 losing seasons in 6 years and 3 in a row before he got fired.  David McWilliams, Spike Dykes, Leach and Tuberville had 3 losing seasons between them in the 27 years before Kliff.  I don't think the "Tech is a losing program, so you can't blame Kliff" argument holds much water.  Kliff was a failure at Tech.

Love a good David McWilliams take.