Formula 1 2019

[Anton Chigurh 3,334]

Fuck.

[elfenix 34,662]

RIP

 

 

 

[Anton Chigurh 3,334]

Hamilton’s reaction is just horrible during his interview. Albon too.

[Capn81 396]

Man, that was tough to watch. RIP.

[52-80 19,374]

hilarious start

[52-80 19,374]

hell, ferrari might actually get a win this year.  leclerc might actually get a win this year

[Anton Chigurh 3,334]

Damn, wtf happened to Norris on the last lap there.

[MC Fresh Breath 4,075]

6 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said:

Damn, wtf happened to Norris on the last lap there.

Engine failure with 1 lap to go.  Sucks.

 

[texas08 1,599]

Charles!

[ChickenSandwich 9,925]

Good race. 

[Prepuce of Doom 21,261]

Can someone please explain the "moving while braking" admonishment that Gasly received? 

In all my years watching F1, I don't recall ever hearing of such a thing, and I don't feel like the on-air explanation really made any sense. 

Seemed like they were essentially saying that drivers are only allowed to brake while traveling straight forward, which obviously seems like nonsense. 

Edited September 1, 2019 by Prepuce of Doom

[Huckleberry 34,409]

Leclerc's immediate victory reaction on the radio was tough to listen to. He didn't have it in him to be as happy as he thought he should be because of Hubert's tragic accident. Tried to act happy for his team. Tough weekend all around, obviously. 

[ChickenSandwich 9,925]

Shitty weekend to get your first win but a good memory in the long run. 

[Hawndoh 2,409]

1 hour ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Can someone please explain the "moving while braking" admonishment that Gasly received? 

In all my years watching F1, I don't recall ever hearing of such a thing, and I don't feel like the on-air explanation really made any sense. 

Seemed like they were essentially saying that drivers are only allowed to brake while traveling straight forward, which obviously seems like nonsense. 

It was always one of those unwritten rules that you don't do it because it is dangerous, and a couple years back Verstappen was doing it so much that the unwritten rule became a formal rule.

[Prepuce of Doom 21,261]

But what exactly is the rule prohibiting? Trail braking? 

[Hawndoh 2,409]

Making very late defensive moves after already committed to the braking zone. The other car essentially can't brake any harder and has no way to react which causes contact. 

[Prepuce of Doom 21,261]

Ahh, makes perfect sense when explained that way. 

Thanks! 

Edited September 2, 2019 by Prepuce of Doom

[elfenix 34,662]

good run by albon to take 5th.  was jockeying with perez at the DRS line, each trying to get the other to cross first

[wood 11,747]

17 minutes ago, elfenix said:

good run by albon to take 5th.  was jockeying with perez at the DRS line, each trying to get the other to cross first

Yeah it's sad that DRS gives the trailing car such a massive advantage. Even Albon was saying after the race that the advantage is just too big & the trailing car almost always passes the leading car once they get in DRS range. Looks like the 2021 cars won't have it, so there's that ... hopefully.

[Huckleberry 34,409]

The bigger issue is how track-specific and even DRS-zone specific it is, not that I'm telling y'all anything you don't already know. The Kemmel straight at Spa makes it way too powerful. But on the start/finish straight there it doesn't do a damn thing. I don't recall seeing a single pass under DRS on the start/finish straight during the race, but I admit zoning out from time to time just waiting for battles to make their way up Eau Rouge and Raidillon to start paying attention.

[Prepuce of Doom 21,261]

I remember some move that Kimi made at Spa a few years ago - I think it was against Schumacher - where he was defending hard over a good lenthy challenge, and ultimately let (Schumi? Whoever...) get past him right at the measurement zone, and then he used DRS to absolutely and definitively wail past his competitor in the activation zone.

[wood 11,747]

[elfenix 34,662]

nice livery

[elfenix 34,662]

Red bull looking enviously at indycar superspeedway rear wings

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/status/1169580203171045376

[utee94 16,071]

Yeah that's not a lot of wing.  Indycar indeed!

[Huckleberry 34,409]

Wet weather at Monza should be fun. A forecast for off-and-on rain in patches and an overall 53% chance might make for another entertaining race like we got in Hockenheim. As long as nobody gets hurt then that's the best case scenario.

[ChickenSandwich 9,925]

Seems like this one would have been one of the more interesting races in the dry. 

[Hawndoh 2,409]

That was one of the dumbest Q3 sessions I've ever seen. 

[elfenix 34,662]

Holy fuck that F3 crash

[Prepuce of Doom 21,261]

https://wtf1.com/post/nobody-set-a-lap-time-in-a-farcical-nascar-qualifying-session/

Just like NASCAR earlier this season. 

[Prepuce of Doom 21,261]

2 hours ago, elfenix said:

Holy fuck that F3 crash

 

 

[elfenix 34,662]

A) that was regarded

B ) no way vettel wasn't all the way off in the parabolica

 

 

[MC Fresh Breath 4,075]

He was, but he was also blocked from doing a final lap, it seemed.

 

[MC Fresh Breath 4,075]

https://www.racefans.net/2019/09/07/hulkenberg-stroll-and-sainz-given-reprimands-for-qualifying-incident/

 

Quote

 

Nico Hulkenberg, Lance Stroll and Carlos Sainz Jnr have been given reprimands for their roles in the incident in qualifying which led to eight drivers failing to set a time.

The trio ran at the front of the pack at the beginning of Q3 at a comparatively slow pace. That contributed to eighth of the nine drivers on the track failing to set a time. Sainz was the only one who did.

In the cases of all three drivers, the stewards noted they admitted they had driven “unnecessarily slowly” during their out-laps because they wanted to get a slipstream from other cars. The stewards ruled all three “played a significant role in the banking up of cars at a critical stage of the final out lap for Q3”.

The stewards added they “strongly recommend that the FIA expedite a solution to this type of situation.”

Hulkenberg said the situation arose because all the drivers were trying to get in position to take a slistream from another car.

“We’re all looking for a tow, obviously, because if you want to do the ultimate, fastest time, that’s what you need around here,” he said. “Just so much lap time and so powerful.

“When you drive on your own you just lose on the straights and you can’t make up that time in the corners, basically. Hence we ended up with this conditions.

“To some extent it’s just down to the cars as well because the tow effect is massive. But of course it was a bit weird and strange, for sure, that last out-lap.”

 

 

[Hawndoh 2,409]

It's funny that all year we hear how they can't run in dirty air, cars can't follow each other, etc but when they get to Italy nobody wants clean air and everyone needs a tow. 

[wood 11,747]

The Halo seems to have saved another life, or at least saved this kid from being a paraplegic imho.

"Update on Alex. Alex is currently in hospital and he has been immobilised until further scans are performed on his back on Sunday. His D6 vertebra has multiple fractures and the medical staff will decide tomorrow if it's necessary to operate. Alex is also recovering from concussion with his helmet extensively damaged. Alex's life was saved by the halo, his helmet and the robust modern survival cell. Team Peroni wish to pay tribute to all of those people that have lobbied for constant progress in relation to safety. As soon as possible Alex will return to Tasmania to recover."

facebook.com/DriverAlexPeroni

...and walking away from the scene of the accident and getting into a car with a broken vertebrae put him in further jeopardy. 

 

How TF is that even allowed to happen nowadays?

Edited September 8, 2019 by wood

[relapse98 634]

Vettel is done. Something happened to his brain. Passed by a freaking Renault on the first lap, then spins off on his own later and takes out Lance Stroll.

 

[RamjetFDO 10,642]

Black and White flag = yellow card.

Naughty boy, don't do it again.

[52-80 19,374]

Ferrari finally putting it all together.  Strange to have to sympathize for the richest, most popular team in F1 history, but here we are.

[Anton Chigurh 3,334]

Ferrari finally putting it all together.  Strange to have to sympathize for the richest, most popular team in F1 history, but here we are.

 

Eh, sorta. They will be slow in Singapore (and may not win another race), but they won at home, so they have that going for them, which is nice.

[Anton Chigurh 3,334]

Apparently Nicholas Latifi from F2 will take Kubica’s seat next year. We haven’t had a driver this bad since probably Haryanto. Worse than Palmer. Even comparing him to Stroll is an insult to Stroll.

 

Well, we will have two rich Canadian kids on the grid next year.

 

[ChickenSandwich 9,925]

The race was so focused on the leaders it’s like the rest of the field didn’t exist. Wasn’t bad, but nothing on the midfield, Verstappen etc. 

[Anton Chigurh 3,334]

The race was so focused on the leaders it’s like the rest of the field didn’t exist. Wasn’t bad, but nothing on the midfield, Verstappen etc. 

I think this race confirmed Honda is last in straight engine power. Verstappen couldn’t get by Perez after sitting behind him for quite a while with DRS. That RB was super trimmed out, too.

[elfenix 34,662]

Good job cutting to the crowd just as vettel tries to ram into stroll

[wood 11,747]

Can anyone explain to me why only Hulk, Sainz, and Stroll were given reprimands for the Q3 debacle? What a fucking joke. Sainz actually looked to be trying to get on with it more than anyone else.

Oh, and I really hate the continuance of just slapping a minimal 5s time penalty on someone who cuts the track to gain a position and then doesn't give it back. Complete bullshit.

Edited September 9, 2019 by wood

[52-80 19,374]

4 hours ago, wood said:

Can anyone explain to me why only Hulk, Sainz, and Stroll were given reprimands for the Q3 debacle? What a fucking joke. Sainz actually looked to be trying to get on with it more than anyone else.

Oh, and I really hate the continuance of just slapping a minimal 5s time penalty on someone who cuts the track to gain a position and then doesn't give it back. Complete bullshit.

Everyone getting out of the pits late was S.O.P.  But once on track, it was those 3 who were blocking the road for the rest of the grid. 

 

There was a moment at 1:18 left when Vettel was gesturing for them to get out of the way.  He could not have reasonably gone past unless he went out beyond the curb.

 

Watched the race replay again and I have to admit, LeClerc was not playing so nicely defending against Hamilton.  The moment when Hamilton went off track was fine -- Ferrari was ahead and entitled to the line.  But there was a moment when LeClerc zigzagged across the road.  Not totally egregious a la Verstappen last year, but not exactly fair play either.

[faps 818]

Vettel seems to have lost the edge, I wonder if he's even enjoying himself out there. Leclerc seems to be taking over the team.

[wood 11,747]

8 minutes ago, mcbrisket said:

Vettel seems to have lost the edge, I wonder if he's even enjoying himself out there. Leclerc seems to be taking over the team.

Yeah imho he lost his edge over a year ago. And no, he hasn't looked like he's having fun & has looked like a dead man walking imho.

[Goofyboy 3,428]

I think he’s done the math. He can’t win. Ferrari won’t pass Merc. Drive safe (oops) and just finish the year. Get paid and retire in red.

[PittsburghTiger 6,320]

15 hours ago, wood said:

Yeah imho he lost his edge over a year ago. And no, he hasn't looked like he's having fun & has looked like a dead man walking imho.

Hasn't been the same since he fucked up last year at Hockenheim. I'd like him to do well. I root for German drivers. 

I thought this last race was awesome. It was nice to hear Lewis say he needed more power. No matter the reason it's nice to not have foregone conclusions. I'd like to at least see Renault and Honda get things going by the end of the year and actually become a threat to Mercedes. And I'd like to see Ferrari become good at all tracks, not just a couple.