2019 Texas HS football

[crash_davis 23081]

7 hours ago, Lonestar88 said:

 

John Tyler is a 5A school, Longview is a defending 6A state champ, Longview is supposed to blow them out. The ridiculous thing is that Longview opened the season with 3 straight 5A opponents.

John Tyler looking like total dogshit had nothing to do with Longview.  JT's offense was abysmal.  QB looked like he had no idea what routes the receivers were running.  QB was missing/ignoring open receiver.  Run game was atrocious.  No one was blocking anyone.  

King sucked so bad that his dad stopped calling passing plays in the 2nd half.  Honestly I don't think they threw the ball again after the 3rd int.  JT knew Longview was going one dimensional and still couldn't stop the run.  JT is just an AWFUL AWFUL team.

[Lonestar88 4585]

1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

John Tyler looking like total dogshit had nothing to do with Longview.  JT's offense was abysmal.  QB looked like he had no idea what routes the receivers were running.  QB was missing/ignoring open receiver.  Run game was atrocious.  No one was blocking anyone.  

King sucked so bad that his dad stopped calling passing plays in the 2nd half.  Honestly I don't think they threw the ball again after the 3rd int.  JT knew Longview was going one dimensional and still couldn't stop the run.  JT is just an AWFUL AWFUL team.

JT got blown out by Longview last year too, they also lost by 50 to Cedar Hill early last year. They then went undefeated in district and only lost by 7 to Highland Park in the playoffs. They do this every year, they schedule impossible to win games early, get blown out, and then do pretty well once they actually start playing teams in their weight class. Class differences in high school football matter.

I don’t think JT makes the same run this year as they did last year, but them looking like dog shit absolutely had something to do with their opponent.

 

[Tex Pete 20156]

True, but none of their “QBs” could hit water from a boat. They were dreadful. 

[Lonestar88 4585]

6 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

True, but none of their “QBs” could hit water from a boat. They were dreadful. 

They were pretty bad.

Their hope is that in district, they won’t be down as big, so they can throw as little as possible.

[Bevo 13516]

I have a dumb high school football question. I was out of Texas a long time but I think we only played teams in our football classification and everyone in our district was 5A. There was no 6A. I thought Vandergriff high school and Cedar Park High School were in the same district. I was told Cedar Park is 5A and Vandergriff is 6A. Is this right? Do 5A teams play 6A teams up until playoff time? Does it hurt your record and your ability to get into the playoffs if you are a 5A school and lose to a 6A school?

[Huckleberry 32694]

3 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I have a dumb high school football question. I was out of Texas a long time but I think we only played teams in our football classification and everyone in our district was 5A. There was no 6A. I thought Vandergriff high school and Cedar Park High School were in the same district. I was told Cedar Park is 5A and Vandergriff is 6A. Is this right? Do 5A teams play 6A teams up until playoff time? Does it hurt your record and your ability to get into the playoffs if you are a 5A school and lose to a 6A school?

No it doesn't hurt playoff chances. If you're in different classifications then you're definitely in different districts. Only district record matters for playoff qualification.

[Tree Fidy 1196]

I have a dumb high school football question. I was out of Texas a long time but I think we only played teams in our football classification and everyone in our district was 5A. There was no 6A. I thought Vandergriff high school and Cedar Park High School were in the same district. I was told Cedar Park is 5A and Vandergriff is 6A. Is this right? Do 5A teams play 6A teams up until playoff time? Does it hurt your record and your ability to get into the playoffs if you are a 5A school and lose to a 6A school?

Vandegrift is 6A, CP is 5A. They are not in the same district any longer.

[TheBryMan81 2500]

29 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I have a dumb high school football question. I was out of Texas a long time but I think we only played teams in our football classification and everyone in our district was 5A. There was no 6A. I thought Vandergriff high school and Cedar Park High School were in the same district. I was told Cedar Park is 5A and Vandergriff is 6A. Is this right? Do 5A teams play 6A teams up until playoff time? Does it hurt your record and your ability to get into the playoffs if you are a 5A school and lose to a 6A school?

So a 10 game season consists of first a few non-district games (like college non conference games) and then district games. During non district, you can schedule whomever you want, regardless of classification.  Districts are made up of teams from the same classification (theoretically all from a similar location in the state) and district record determines playoff seeding

[Beau Vine 53978]

Lone Star at HP should be a fun one tonight.

[Foggy Notion 1202]

Here’s a preview of the Duncanville vs. St. John’s game happening tomorrow. I’m driving up for the game. If any of you assholes are gonna be there, shoot me a PM. 

 

[Beau Vine 53978]

IIRC, StJohn's is the school that just all of a sudden started recruiting up all of the football talent in the area, and all the other local Catholic schools won't play them any more.  

[texifornia 56479]

3 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

IIRC, StJohn's is the school that just all of a sudden started recruiting up all of the football talent in the area, and all the other local Catholic schools won't play them any more.  

Nah, that's St. Frances in Baltimore: https://deadspin.com/baltimore-high-schools-sick-of-getting-whupped-by-footb-1826437133

St. John's is the UA CEO's alma mater, and has some shady basketball shit going on: https://deadspin.com/under-armour-bosss-alma-mater-wins-shady-hoops-game-ha-1822529498

[Beau Vine 53978]

You need a program to keep your shady eastern Catholic high schools straight...

[Bevo 13516]

1 hour ago, Tree Fidy said:

Vandegrift is 6A, CP is 5A. They are not in the same district any longer.

Thanks. I was confused because I thought they were both in Leander ISD. And I know they play each other annually. In what district is Vandegrift?

[Bevo 13516]

1 minute ago, texifornia said:

Nah, that's St. Frances in Baltimore: https://deadspin.com/baltimore-high-schools-sick-of-getting-whupped-by-footb-1826437133

St. John's is the UA CEO's alma mater, and has some shady basketball shit going on: https://deadspin.com/under-armour-bosss-alma-mater-wins-shady-hoops-game-ha-1822529498

Does DeMatha no longer dominate in basketball?

[texifornia 56479]

Just now, Bevo said:

Does DeMatha no longer dominate in basketball?

They're still super good - I know they always have good recruits in all the big sports. That's as far as I pay attention.

[Foggy Notion 1202]

27 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Does DeMatha no longer dominate in basketball?

Like Texifornia said, they’re still really good. But they don’t quite dominate in basketball like they used to. Gonzaga has won the Washington Catholic Athletic Conference three out of the past five years. 

[Plorant 798]

1 hour ago, Bevo said:

Thanks. I was confused because I thought they were both in Leander ISD. And I know they play each other annually. In what district is Vandegrift?

They are in Leander ISD.  They are in 6A because of their enrollment size.  Leander ISD has some schools in 6a (Vandagrift, Vista Ridge, etc.)  and some in 5a ex. Cedar Park.

[Helobious 9480]

Harlingen is down at the half to Judson 19-0. Cardinal defense is actually somewhat holding their own, Judson has a defensive TD. The Rocket QB is a great scrambler, but overall they haven’t been super impressive so far.  Wouldn’t count on them to go that deep in the playoffs this year. 

Side-note, the Converse area hopped on a warp speed train to Shitholeville about 5 years ago, and it’s not stopping for anything. Hadn’t been over here in at least a year and my god. 

[Bevo 13516]

50 minutes ago, Plorant said:

They are in Leander ISD.  They are in 6A because of their enrollment size.  Leander ISD has some schools in 6a (Vandagrift, Vista Ridge, etc.)  and some in 5a ex. Cedar Park.

So even though they are in the same district, the game doesn't count when deciding playoff eligibility?

[Plorant 798]

30 minutes ago, Bevo said:

So even though they are in the same district, the game doesn't count when deciding playoff eligibility?

Sorry, I didn't make it clear.  They are in the same school district.  They are not in the same UIL sports district.  Vandegrift is in district 13-6A.  Cedar Park is in 11-5A Division 1.  Their game earlier this season was not a district game and will not have any playoff implications.

[Par4 146]

36 minutes ago, Bevo said:

So even though they are in the same district, the game doesn't count when deciding playoff eligibility?

Not in the same district, just the same ISD. There are AISD (Austin Ind. School District) schools that are 5A and 6A. They are in different athletic districts, but all in the same school system. 

 

[Plorant 798]

38 minutes ago, Bevo said:

So even though they are in the same district, the game doesn't count when deciding playoff eligibility?

District 13 - 6A

• Austin Vandegrift
• Cedar Park Vista Ridge
• Leander
• Pflugerville Hendrickson
• Round Rock
• Round Rock McNeil
• Round Rock Stony Pt.
• Round Rock Westwood
• RR Cedar Ridge

District 11 - 5A 

• Cedar Park
• Georgetown
• Hutto
• Leander Rouse
• Manor
• Pflugerville
• Pflugerville Connally

[Bevo 13516]

5 minutes ago, Par4 said:

Not in the same district, just the same ISD. There are AISD (Austin Ind. School District) schools that are 5A and 6A. They are in different athletic districts, but all in the same school system. 

 

I understand. I guess growing up we were an oddity. I went to a school in Spring Branch ISD and every school in the district was in 21 5A (I think 17 5A back in the day) so the school district and the UIL district were one and the same.

You know what, I may be wrong. We played Hastings and Elsik and I'm not sure if they were in Spring Branch School District. But, every school in Spring Branch ISD was 5A and in the same UIL district. 

[Hornius Emeritus 12408]

Temple putting a beatdown on Harker Heights. 34-3 in the 4th quarter.

[Ths71 472]

Frisco Lone Star goes to Highland Park and takes down the #1 Scots 30-19.


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[Beau Vine 53978]

El Campo 42

Cuero 0

[HornsOverIthaca 2333]

2 hours ago, Helobious said:

the Converse area hopped on a warp speed train to Shitholeville about 5 years ago, and it’s not stopping for anything.

That’s a good way of putting it.

[Helobious 9480]

29 minutes ago, Ths71 said:

Frisco Lone Star goes to Highland Park and takes down the #1 Scots 30-19.


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Ends their 33 game winning streak. 

HP's 2nd home loss in the past 21 years. Their first loss at home to a team from Texas since 1998. 

[hpslugga 4042]

26 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Ends their 33 game winning streak. 

HP's 2nd home loss in the past 21 years. Their first loss at home to a team from Texas since 1998. 

Damn, I was at that game too. Grapevine back when they were slinging the ball around when hardly anyone else would. I was 14 freaking years old. Scott Smith could never figured out how to defend the spread back in that day.

Turnovers were the big story tonight. 4-0, all picks

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[texifornia 56479]

Just now, hpslugga said:

Damn, I was at that game too. Grapevine back when they were slinging the ball around when hardly anyone else would. I was 14 freaking years old.

Turnovers were the big story tonight. 4-0, all picks

Poor piggy

[futureman 22414]

7 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

Damn, I was at that game too. Grapevine back when they were slinging the ball around when hardly anyone else would. I was 14 freaking years old. Scott Smith could never figured out how to defend the spread back in that day.

Turnovers were the big story tonight. 4-0, all picks

was it grapevine?  dallasnews.com recap from tonight says it was denison we lost to at home in 1998.  I know we lost a playoff game at amon g. carter to denison (and chris robertson) around that time, so maybe they have shitty reporters. 

[Gardner Barnes 1562]

Westlake beat Akins a lot to not much.

 

Meh. The teams in this district suck.

 

[Beau Vine 53978]

27 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

Damn, I was at that game too. Grapevine back when they were slinging the ball around when hardly anyone else would. I was 14 freaking years old. Scott Smith could never figured out how to defend the spread back in that day.

Turnovers were the big story tonight. 4-0, all picks

 

19 minutes ago, futureman said:

was it grapevine?  dallasnews.com recap from tonight says it was denison we lost to at home in 1998.  I know we lost a playoff game at amon g. carter to denison (and chris robertson) around that time, so maybe they have shitty reporters. 

Lost to both Denison and Grapevine in 1998: http://lonestarfootball.net/team.asp?action=schedule&T=4027&S=1998&GUID=5698962212

[markstanco 12501]

Some scores from teams I follow...

[Dennis Taylor 18690]

3 hours ago, Bevo said:

I understand. I guess growing up we were an oddity. I went to a school in Spring Branch ISD and every school in the district was in 21 5A (I think 17 5A back in the day) so the school district and the UIL district were one and the same.

You know what, I may be wrong. We played Hastings and Elsik and I'm not sure if they were in Spring Branch School District. But, every school in Spring Branch ISD was 5A and in the same UIL district. 

Hastings and Elsik are in Alief ISD, and they added Alief Taylor HS in 2001.

Spring Branch ISD used to have 6 high schools, with Westchester and Spring Branch High closing in 1985.

The SBISD and Alief ISD schools have often been in the same UIL athletic districts over the years, but not as often since the 90s or so. Northbrook and Spring Woods have been in the second largest class a few times ( 4a awhile back and 5a after 6a was added). They are 6a now and just literally have no shot at beating anyone but each other. Saw some Northbrook-Cy Fair highlights and it was just ridiculous.  

 

Edited September 14, 2019 by Dennis Taylor

[Laga4 1270]

SLC 48

Odessa Permian 7

[hpslugga 4042]

6 hours ago, futureman said:

was it grapevine?  dallasnews.com recap from tonight says it was denison we lost to at home in 1998.  I know we lost a playoff game at amon g. carter to denison (and chris robertson) around that time, so maybe they have shitty reporters. 

Just looked again and Denison is the correct answer. Played them two weeks after grapevine 

[Jacob McCandles 202]

I understand. I guess growing up we were an oddity. I went to a school in Spring Branch ISD and every school in the district was in 21 5A (I think 17 5A back in the day) so the school district and the UIL district were one and the same.
You know what, I may be wrong. We played Hastings and Elsik and I'm not sure if they were in Spring Branch School District. But, every school in Spring Branch ISD was 5A and in the same UIL district. 

The other thing to remember is that the UIL reclassifies and realigns districts every two years. So district alignments change often, especially in the Houston area with schools in school districts that do not have enough schools on their own to make up a UIL district. In the last 15 years, SBISD schools have been with Alief ISD, Katy ISD, Aldine ISD, Klein ISD, and CyFair ISD. When Stratford and Spring Woods were down in 5A, they we with Waller, Brenham, and other schools on 290 corridor.

[Bevo 13516]

1 minute ago, Jacob McCandles said:

When Stratford and Spring Woods were down in 5A, they we with Waller, Brenham, and other schools on 290 corridor.

I guess we were lucky to play all our district games at Tully and occasionally Alief. It would be kind of a pain in the ass to drive an hour to play Brenham.

[Jacob McCandles 202]

I guess we were lucky to play all our district games at Tully and occasionally Alief. It would be kind of a pain in the ass to drive an hour to play Brenham.

How about a 4p sub-varsity game in Brenham on a Thursday ...

[RexWilson 1341]

Leander is terrible. Opening Glenn hurt them a lot.

[Iceman 2639]

On 9/13/2019 at 1:09 AM, Lonestar88 said:

 

John Tyler is a 5A school, Longview is a defending 6A state champ, Longview is supposed to blow them out. The ridiculous thing is that Longview opened the season with 3 straight 5A opponents.

Yeah, Lufkin and John Tyler have absolutely no history or rivalries with Longview[/ rolleyes at the ignorance in your post]

It's not college football where strength of schedule factor in, unless you're SEC.  This scheduling didn't seem to hinder the Loboes last season...

Geographically speaking, where's all the local 6A teams Longview can schedule?

Edited September 14, 2019 by Iceman

[JimmyTwoTimes 79]

37 minutes ago, Jacob McCandles said:

41 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I guess we were lucky to play all our district games at Tully and occasionally Alief. It would be kind of a pain in the ass to drive an hour to play Brenham.

How about a 4p sub-varsity game in Brenham on a Thursday ...

Between junior and senior years, trips to Brenham, Waller, Tomball, and Magnolia in Houston rush hour traffic. A beating.

[Beau Vine 53978]

Class 6A

Rank Team	W-L	Result	Score
1. Duncanville	2-0	vs. Wash., D.C. St. John's	Sat.
2. Katy	2-0	d. IPN-Mexico	65-0
3. Allen	3-0	d. Coppell	28-21
4. Longview	3-0	d. John Tyler	42-0
5. GP North Shore	2-1	d. Spring Westfield	24-21
6. Austin Westlake	3-0	d. Austin Akins	58-7
7. Denton Guyer	3-0	d. North Crowley	55-7
8. Southlake Carroll	2-0	d. Odessa Permian	48-7
9. Beau. West Brook	2-0	d. Houston Lamar	36-34
10. Converse Judson	3-0	d. Harlingen	39-0

—

Class 5A Division I

Rank, Team	W-L	Result	Score
1. Highland Park	2-1	lost to Frisco Lone Star	30-19
2. Denton Ryan	2-0	Idle	--
3. Frisco Lone Star	3-0	d. Highland Park	30-19
4. Pear. Shadow Creek	3-0	d. Alief Elsik	63-7
5. Lufkin	2-1	d. Redskins del Estado	61-7
6. Angleton	2-0	d. Clear Brook	45-7
7. Hutto	3-0	d. EP Del Valle	38-14
8. Richmond Foster	1-1	vs. Magnolia West	Sat.
9. Lancaster	2-1	d. South Grand Prairie	42-27
10. SA Wagner	2-1	d. SA Houston	43-6

—

Class 5A Division II

 

Rank, Team	W-L	Result	Score
1. Aledo	2-1	d. Burleson Centennial	63-30
2. FB Marshall	3-0	d. Milby	59-0
3. CC Calallen	3-0	d. Needville	20-19
4. Huntsville	2-1	lost to College Station	29-13
5. Manvel	3-0	d. Sharstown	76-0
6. A&M Consolidated	2-0	Idle	--
7. Lubbock Cooper	2-1	lost to Wolfforth Frenship	61-53
8. PL Calhoun	2-1	lost to Auto. de Nuevo Leon	37-21
9. Burleson Centennial	2-1	lost to Aledo	63-30
10. Boerne Champion	2-0	at SA MacArthur	Sat.

—

Class 4A Division I

Rank, Team	W-L	Result	Score
1. Argyle	3-0	d. Tyler Chapel Hill	62-7
2. Carthage	3-0	d. Marshall	38-6
3. Waco La Vega	2-1	d. Austin LBJ	21-7
4. Sealy	3-0	d. Waller	14-0
5. Paris	2-1	d. Gilmer	37-20
6. Liberty Hill	1-2	lost to Manor	33-28
7. Lampasas	2-1	lost to Lorena	31-30
8. Decatur	3-0	d. Midl. Heritage	41-28
9. Columbia	3-0	d. Sweeny	38-7
10. Dumas	3-0	d. Wichita Falls	7-0

—

Class 4A Division II

Rank, Team	W-L	Result	Score
1. Tex. Pleasant Grove	3-0	d. Atlanta	48-17
2. Jasper	2-0	d. LC-Mauriceville	42-14
3. W. Orange-Stark	2-1	lost to Newton	20-14
4. Waco Connally	2-1	d. China Spring	21-20
5. Gilmer	2-1	lost to Paris	37-20
6. Lubbock Estacado	3-0	d. Amarillo Caprock	35-14
7. Graham	2-1	lost to Brownwood	28-14
8. Sunnyvale	3-0	d. Brownsboro	57-41
9. Midland Greenwood	3-0	d. Shallowater	49-14
10. Robinson	3-0	d. Troy	63-35

—

Class 3A Division I

Rank, Team	W-L	Result	Score
1. Grandview	3-0	d. Venus	62-6
2. Malakoff	3-0	d. Mexia	17-14
3. Cameron Yoe	2-0	d. Gatesville	68-34
4. Atlanta	1-2	lost to Tex. Pleasant Grove	48-17
5. Wall	3-0	d. Midland Christian	20-14
6. Yoakum	1-2	lost to Gonzales	27-25
7. Gladewater	2-1	d. Center	48-28
8. East Chambers	2-1	lost to Hamshire-Fannett	26-19
9. Jefferson	3-0	d. Arp	38-8
10. Bushland	3-0	d. Borger	38-0

 

—

Class 3A Division II

Rank, Team	W-L	Result	Score
1. Newton	3-0	d. W. Orange-Stark	20-14
2. Canadian	3-0	d. Perryton	48-0
3. East Bernard	3-0	d. Boling	42-0
4. Abernathy	3-0	d. Wellington	51-6
5. Gunter	2-1	d. Whitesboro	49-7
6. Daingerfield	2-1	d. New Boston	26-12
7. Holliday	2-1	d. Windthorst	47-20
8. Rogers	3-0	d. McGregor	53-20
9. Clifton	2-1	d. Maypearl	45-0
10. Cisco	2-1	d. Breckenridge	40-19

—

Class 2A Division I

Rank, Team	W-L	Result	Score
1. Refugio	3-0	d. Aransas Pass	48-7
2. Shiner	3-0	d. Burton	49-0
3. San Saba	3-0	d. Junction	63-0
4. Mason	2-1	d. Sonora	33-0
5. San Augustine	2-0	d. Garrison	36-28
6. Panhandle	3-0	d. Childress	54-13
7. New Deal	3-0	d. Slaton	21-14
8. Garrison	1-1	lost to San Augustine	36-28
9. Tenaha	3-0	d. Tyler Gorman	54-0
10. Hawley	3-0	d. Hamlin	46-44

—

Class 2A Division I

Rank, Team	W-L	Result	Score
1. Hamlin	2-1	lost to Hawley	46-44
2. Grapeland	2-1	lost to Crockett	48-8
3. Albany	2-1	lost to Eastland	60-28
4. Wellington	2-1	lost to Abernathy	51-6
5. Mart	1-1	d. Franklin	20-16
6. Falls City	2-1	d. Stockdale	20-3
7. Burton	2-0	d. Shiner	49-0
8. Gruver	2-0	lost to West Texas	74-46
9. Muenster	2-1	lost to Pottsboro	39-12
10. Bremond	2-0	d. Milano	44-6

[Iceman 2639]

11 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

El Campo 42

Cuero 0

That is hard to fucking imagine.

[Beau Vine 53978]

^^^^^^^^^^

1.  I would bet money on Pleasant Grove vs the entire field in 4AD2 right now to win state.

2.  Newton doesn't seem like they've slipped at all.  Wow.  Wins over Kirbyville, Silsbee, and WOS.

3.  That Wellington score is shocking.  (Slorch rejoices?) Wonder when the last time is that the Skyrockets have lost by 40+?  

 

[Beau Vine 53978]

5 minutes ago, Iceman said:

That is hard to fucking imagine.

El Campo has a freshman RB who will be one of the top recruits in the country.  

I remember about 5 years ago hearing Cuero fans say that 2018 was going to be their year.  They lost a lot more than just Whittington.  

IIRC, Cuero was pretty lousy in 2011-12, too.  

[Helobious 9480]

Travis Sthele, senior SA Reagan quarterback & UT baseball commit, played his first game last night. Sounded like he was suspended for the first 2 for some reason. He passed for 250 yards and led a 28 point comeback to beat Clemens 35-28, and Reagan's first win of the year. Reagan also has a freshman starting at RB, Carson Green. That has to be a first given the size of the school. Not even Marcus Wright did that. 

[Iceman 2639]

40 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

^^^^^^^^^^

1.  I would bet money on Pleasant Grove vs the entire field in 4AD2 right now to win state.

2.  Newton doesn't seem like they've slipped at all.  Wow.  Wins over Kirbyville, Silsbee, and WOS.

3.  That Wellington score is shocking.  (Slorch rejoices?) Wonder when the last time is that the Skyrockets have lost by 40+?  

 

PG is an awesome, awesome team. Atlanta is a solid team and the Hawks ate them Rabbits up.

Newton is just badass.  It is incredible what that town/ program has been through and they just keep wrecking shop.

Canadian still looms for Abernathy, in what would be a rematch of last season's Reg I Final  in 3A-DII.  I still think Canadian is deeper and more talented as a whole team.

Edited September 14, 2019 by Iceman