SEC Scheduling and Adjusted W-L Records

[Armybrat 40710]

Yeah, they were really a turkey.

[dcar00 14028]

On 7/9/2019 at 2:05 PM, The University said:

to be perfectly honest, the longhorns used to have a regularly scheduled late season fcs-level cupcake for roughly one century.

Randolph Field is no cupcake SIR!

[The University 851]

1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

Randolph Field is no cupcake SIR!

buncha cockroach ro-hawk chair forcers

[Armybrat 40710]

9 hours ago, dcar00 said:

Randolph Field is no cupcake SIR!

Neither was the Camp Mabry Auto School..🚘

[Goodman 3273]

 

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

That's not a bad schedule by sec standards.  They probably will get a memo from the conference office telling them they need to schedule more fcs teams.

[Dewey 3280]

Because sec, it took me a few to realizes Hail State wasn't a team on their schedule 

[sushihorn 3233]

2019 Schedule update:

 

Alabama: Duke* (technically P5), NM State, S Miss, W Carolina (FCS)

Auburn: Oregon*, Tulane, Kent State, Samford (FCS)

Arkansas:  Portland State (FCS), Colorado State, San Jose St, W Kentucky

aggy:  Texas St, Clemson*, Lamar (FCS), UTSA

LSU:  Georgia Southern, Texas*, NW State (FCS), Utah State

Ole Miss:  Memphis, SE Louisiana (FCS), Cal*, NM State

MSU:  Louisiana – Lafayette, S Miss, K-State*, Abilene Christian (FCS)

 

Florida:  Miami*, Tenn – Martin (FCS), Towson (FCS), FSU*

Georgia:  Murray State (FCS), Arkansas St, Notre Dame*, Georgia Tech*

Kentucky:  Toledo, E Michigan, Tenn – Martin (FCS), Louisville*

Missouri:  Wyoming, WVU*, SE Missouri FCS), Troy

S Carolina:  UNC, Charleston Southern (FCS), Appalachian State, Clemson*

Tennessee:  Georgia State, BYU, Chattanooga (FCS), UAB

Vandy:  Purdue*, N Illinois, UNLV, E Tennessee State (FCS)

 

Once again EVERY SECx3 team has scheduled an FCS cupcake in 2019.  12 of the 14 teams actually scheduled a P5 opponent this year; Georgia actually scheduled two of them.  Florida did as well but offset that with 2 FCS scrubs.  So only 3 autowins from OOC for most of them this season.

As a result, 2 SEC teams will play 8 games against P5 competition.  10 will play 9 P5 opponents and 2 will play 10 P5 games.  In comparison, no Big XII team will face 8 P5s.  Only Baylor will play as few as 9 such games.  8 conference teams will have 10 P5 opponents and W Virginia will play 11 (Mizzou and NC State OOC).

The elevated number of non-competitive OOC games will continue to pad the SEC resume this year.  So will the late season bye week.  4 SECx3 teams play an OOC P5 rival late in the year.  The other 10 (including every team in the West) put an air mattress in the place to rest up in November.  These include W Carolina, Samford, W Kentucky, UTSA, Utah State, NM State, Abilene Christian, Troy, UAB and E Tenn St.

All the most objectionable feature of SEC patty cake scheduling are present and in full force again this season.

[Neonmoon 38127]

Two SEC teams in the playoff every year. Isn’t it fun for everyone?

CFB won’t be a fixed until every conference plays the same number of conference games 

[Underdog 28443]

LOL @ the Barkley vid for Auburn game announcement. 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

It’s a joke that pussy ass conference just plays 8 games.  What would be their 9th conference game is an FCS bye in November.  Saves the conference 7 losses and massively distorts the polls.  

I won’t care as much once playoffs expand and all p5 conferences has an auto bid.  Because then the polls don’t mean nearly as much.  But it’s complete bullshit now.  

[Huckleberry 32694]

Something that belongs on this thread that I mentioned here:

The full round robin of the Big 12 is the most difficult scheduling format for a conference. Last year in the 12-game regular season, the Big 12 of course played all 45 possible matchups between its top 10 teams. The SEC played only 28 of those matchups. That means that the SEC's cumulative record was spared 17 guaranteed losses from avoiding those games. Based on the preseason Massey composite (which is of course missing a lot of ratings sets that don't issue preseason ratings), here is the preseason 2019 count of scheduled Top 10 intraconference matchups for the P5 conferences. 45 is the maximum.

ACC - 26
Big Ten - 31
Big 12 - 45
Pac-12 - 36
SEC - 27

The ACC and SEC are gaming the system and nobody in the national media talks about it. Alabama misses all four of the four best teams in the SEC East based on preseason rankings. Georgia, Florida, Missouri, and Kentucky. Their non-conference games are Duke, New Mexico State, Southern Miss, and Western Carolina. I recognize that they are scheduling hard in the future and Saban supports tougher schedule requirements. But in 2019 their schedule is rigged to be basically as easy as possible. Both by them and by their conference. Both directly and indirectly because of structure. LSU plays only one of the SEC East's top 5 (Florida). Over in the ACC, Clemson misses all FIVE of the five best teams in the ACC Coastal. Their only two cross-divisional games are against the worst two teams in the Coastal according to preseason rankings, North Carolina and Louisville.

[S11 16]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

Something that belongs on this thread that I mentioned here:

The full round robin of the Big 12 is the most difficult scheduling format for a conference. Last year in the 12-game regular season, the Big 12 of course played all 45 possible matchups between its top 10 teams. The SEC played only 28 of those matchups. That means that the SEC's cumulative record was spared 17 guaranteed losses from avoiding those games. Based on the preseason Massey composite (which is of course missing a lot of ratings sets that don't issue preseason ratings), here is the preseason 2019 count of scheduled Top 10 intraconference matchups for the P5 conferences. 45 is the maximum.

ACC - 26
Big Ten - 31
Big 12 - 45
Pac-12 - 36
SEC - 27

The ACC and SEC are gaming the system and nobody in the national media talks about it. Alabama misses all four of the four best teams in the SEC East based on preseason rankings. Georgia, Florida, Missouri, and Kentucky. Their non-conference games are Duke, New Mexico State, Southern Miss, and Western Carolina. I recognize that they are scheduling hard in the future and Saban supports tougher schedule requirements. But in 2019 their schedule is rigged to be basically as easy as possible. Both by them and by their conference. Both directly and indirectly because of structure. LSU plays only one of the SEC East's top 5 (Florida). Over in the ACC, Clemson misses all FIVE of the five best teams in the ACC Coastal. Their only two cross-divisional games are against the worst two teams in the Coastal according to preseason rankings, North Carolina and Louisville.

Part of the reason I hope expansion can be done in a beneficial way monetarily.   It will put the league at a better scheduling advantage.

[sushihorn 3233]

So far this year 5 of the scheduled auto wins have turned into losses.  Wyoming of the mighty Mountain West over Mizzou; FCS Georgia State and BYU beating Tennessee; Memphis defeated Ole Miss.

Yesterday probably the worst team in the MWC beat Arkansas.

[Tex Pete 20156]

And of course Kansas State beat Mississippi State last week and Cal beat Ole Miss yesterday. 

[LTtxfan 48952]

1 minute ago, sushihorn said:

So far this year 5 of the scheduled auto wins have turned into losses.  Wyoming of the mighty Mountain West over Mizzou; FCS Georgia State and BYU beating Tennessee; Memphis defeated Ole Miss.

Yesterday probably the worst team in the MWC beat Arkansas.

Forgot to mention South Carolina spiraling downward too...

Bad SEC teams rankings (1 being worst)

5. Vandy

4. Ole Miss

3. South Carolina

2. Arkansas

1. Tennessee

[El Squared 1792]

On 8/28/2019 at 7:33 PM, Johnny Sack said:

It’s a joke that pussy ass conference just plays 8 games.  What would be their 9th conference game is an FCS bye in November.  Saves the conference 7 losses and massively distorts the polls.  

I won’t care as much once playoffs expand and all p5 conferences has an auto bid.  Because then the polls don’t mean nearly as much.  But it’s complete bullshit now.  

EsecSPN says : “no”.

These are the espn playoffs, their rules. Using logic and reason is not appropriate.

Edited September 22, 2019 by El Squared

[Armybrat 40710]

Their bottom feeders are below Kansas.

[sushihorn 3233]

Sadly, aggy may be the best - or at least the most talented team to face Bama to date.  By week 7 of the CFB season that "grueling $EC schedule" will have featured a gauntlet to shame the Bataan Death March:

Duke, NM State, USCe, Southern Miss, Ole Miss are the new Murders' Row which validates Tide greatness when they go undefeated against it.  I give them the benefit of the doubt since they've been consistently good for a decade.  OTOH this year's team hasn't proven anything against anyone.  I could see aggy giving them a challenge for a half before the adrenaline runs out.

[MrPhlegm 3413]

Sadly, aggy may be the best - or at least the most talented team to face Bama to date.  By week 7 of the CFB season that "grueling $EC schedule" will have featured a gauntlet to shame the Bataan Death March:
Duke, NM State, USCe, Southern Miss, Ole Miss are the new Murders' Row which validates Tide greatness when they go undefeated against it.  I give them the benefit of the doubt since they've been consistently good for a decade.  OTOH this year's team hasn't proven anything against anyone.  I could see aggy giving them a challenge for a half before the adrenaline runs out.