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  On 8/5/2018 at 6:26 PM, GreenspointTexas said:

But the nfl pretty much sucks ass at scouting. They dont watch college football games and draft largely on measurables. Hence the reason most NFL teams cant keep their shit together, season to season

 

Its the only pro sports league that squanders insane talent by using antiquated philosophies and nepotism

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The idea that NFL scouts don't actually watch games is laughable. Obviously, there are noticeable ineffiencies in the draft process, but on the macro scale, they do alright.

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That chart is wrong. Draft round matters the most to defensive backs. They got excited by the big number on linebackers, and didn't check their math.

Otherwise, yeah. The NFL scouts well at several positions, with the most notable exception being QB, where they suck.

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  On 8/5/2018 at 6:52 PM, Machinator said:

The idea that NFL scouts don't actually watch games is laughable. Obviously, there are noticeable ineffiencies in the draft process, but on the macro scale, they do alright.

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I would rather see the draft positions of starters on all the playoff teams. Scheme might have as much to do with why one player makes All-Pro over another at any given position. Show me how the winning teams stack their starting 22 with early round draft picks and I'll be sold.

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  On 8/5/2018 at 7:08 PM, rickyspub said:

I would rather see the draft positions of starters on all the playoff teams. Scheme might have as much to do with why one player makes All-Pro over another at any given position. Show me how the winning teams stack their starting 22 with early round draft picks and I'll be sold.

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The salary cap and the nature of the sport dicates that you cannot "stack" a team with early round picks, because you can't afford to pay them all after a couple years. But of the four All-Pro players on the Eagles this year, three were first rounders: Wentz, Fletcher Cox, and Lane Johnson. Kelce was a Day 3 pick. The Patriots had Tom Brady, one of the biggest outliers of all time, and Gronkowski, who was a first round talent who fell because of legitimate injury concerns, and even then he was a second-round pick.

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  On 8/5/2018 at 7:16 PM, Machinator said:

The salary cap and the nature of the sport dicates that you cannot "stack" a team with early round picks, because you can't afford to pay them all after a couple years. But of the four All-Pro players on the Eagles this year, three were first rounders: Wentz, Fletcher Cox, and Lane Johnson. Kelce was a Day 3 pick. The Patriots had Tom Brady, one of the biggest outliers of all time, and Gronkowski, who was a first round talent who fell because of legitimate injury concerns, and even then he was a second-round pick.

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But you aren't really building a successful team around one year's draft. Most teams should be able to build a starting 22 from mostly early round picks (or trades to get other teams' early rounders) over a 5 year period. Is that the case or is it that the better teams are better at picking players in all rounds, not just getting one can't-miss stud in the lottery and then drafting JAGs? That is where the aggregate is potentially more interesting than focusing just on an few outliers like Brady.

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  On 8/5/2018 at 4:50 PM, Enchubben said:

It was retarded that he wasn’t at the combine and went undrafted. probably a selling point for those that want to negatively recruit UT or big 12. 

If enough of these Texas guys show out that are later round draft picks, or undrafted in Poona’s case, that stigma and bias should be gone by the time this 2018 recruiting class is ready for the draft.

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Holton Hill too. Slightly different story (smoking the tweeds) but still went undrafted and should make the 53.

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  On 8/5/2018 at 6:52 PM, Machinator said:
The idea that NFL scouts don't actually watch games is laughable. Obviously, there are noticeable ineffiencies in the draft process, but on the macro scale, they do alright.
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So teams basically should trade away their fourth round pick every year.
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  On 8/22/2018 at 8:22 PM, GotThatFire said:

 Does that dip shit aggy still play on their D line? He makes it hard for me to root for them 

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Seahawks currently (until cuts) have 6 Longhorns and only 1 aggy on the roster.  

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  On 8/23/2018 at 2:40 AM, Newdoc said:
Well Pete should know Texas puts out some pretty good football players.
Unlike his QB that year, he does seem to have proper respect for the team that dismantled the dynasty..
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I think I cheer for this guy more than any former player currently in the league. I stood next to him before a UT game 4 years ago and thought "oh boy, this guy is really kind of tiny for a DT", and then he went out and played his ass off, like he did every game. It's crazy. Seattle is pretty stacked at DT, but I hope they find a way to keep him.

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Awesome. I hope and believe he can have a good career but now he will always be able to tell people he played in the NFL with no qualifications. Happy for him, even if I know he's not satisfied yet.

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  On 8/30/2018 at 4:23 PM, closetojumping said:

I think I cheer for this guy more than any former player currently in the league. I stood next to him before a UT game 4 years ago and thought "oh boy, this guy is really kind of tiny for a DT", and then he went out and played his ass off, like he did every game. It's crazy. Seattle is pretty stacked at DT, but I hope they find a way to keep him.

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Agree.... My favorite TEXAS player on 2017 Team.  Great at plugging middle up so LBs could hunt RBs and QBs to destroy........

Have a long healthy career PoooooooooooooNa !!

 

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