Alabama Football - Now Featuring Kalen DeBoer

[Vertigo 20461]

3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I think Alabama is going to have some surprising and serious LOS issues in 2024. I'll wait until the portal is closed to really think about it, but as of right now, and from what I saw in their spring game, there's a good shot that they won't look like the same fronts from Bama since 2008.

Watching their spring game highlights, their defensive line and secondary look like shit compared to the last few years. Offensively they look pretty solid, at least against that defense.  

[Brothahorn 10096]

8 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I think Alabama is going to have some surprising and serious LOS issues in 2024. I'll wait until the portal is closed to really think about it, but as of right now, and from what I saw in their spring game, there's a good shot that they won't look like the same fronts from Bama since 2008.

 

5 hours ago, Vertigo said:

Watching their spring game highlights, their defensive line and secondary look like shit compared to the last few years. Offensively they look pretty solid, at least against that defense.  

 

Edited April 16 by Brothahorn

[BrazilHorn 6792]

Looks like while at UW DeBoer knew about rape allegations against Tybo Rogers (He was allowed to play in both the semi final and national championship game)

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/police-suggest-uw-athletics-staff-knew-about-discussed-tybo-rogers-rape-allegation/

Be interesting as this case continues to see if DeBoer has to testify what he knew/when etc

[Chooky 13337]

3 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

Looks like while at UW DeBoer knew about rape allegations against Tybo Rogers (He was allowed to play in both the semi final and national championship game)

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/police-suggest-uw-athletics-staff-knew-about-discussed-tybo-rogers-rape-allegation/

Be interesting as this case continues to see if DeBoer has to testify what he knew/when etc

Well, I guess if Bama feels jicky about his first year, they have leverage for cause lingering around. 

[DFW Horn 6637]

7 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

Looks like while at UW DeBoer knew about rape allegations against Tybo Rogers (He was allowed to play in both the semi final and national championship game)

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/police-suggest-uw-athletics-staff-knew-about-discussed-tybo-rogers-rape-allegation/

Be interesting as this case continues to see if DeBoer has to testify what he knew/when etc

Article reads like DeBoer is the perfect fit for Bama. Roll Tide!

[thunderlounge 8318]

1 hour ago, DFW Horn said:

Article reads like DeBoer is the perfect fit for Bama. Parole Tide!

fify

[LTtxfan 49909]

Missed when this happened, but DeBoer finally added his "glue guy" Chuck Morrell to the Bama staff as a Special Assistant.    Many years of coaching together on the same staff, and Morrell even stepped aside so DeBoer could be elevated to his first CFB Head Coaching job at Sioux Falls 2005.

 

How Chuck Morrell can help Alabama football’s coaching staff in 2024

Updated: Jul. 17, 2024, 12:51 p.m.

By   Matt Stahl | mstahl@al.com

One of the less-publicized changes to college football for the 2024 season isn’t as obvious as the wave of conference realignment that shifted the sport, but one that coaches will immediately see an impact from. Analysts are now allowed to participate in on-field coaching, a change that benefits large programs like Alabama’s, which pioneered having an army of analysts under Nick Saban.

On Wednesday, speaking at SEC Media Days in Dallas, Saban’s replacement, Kalen DeBoer was asked about the change, especially with regards to special assistant to the head coach Chuck Morrell.

“Chuck Morrell and I go back,” DeBoer said. “We were actually teammates together and spent 10 years together at the University of Sioux Falls. He was the defensive coordinator, I was the offensive coordinator starting out. Our relationship, when it comes to just how close we are, just the trust we have in each other, he’s a guy that’s just as loyal as it gets.”

Morrell joined DeBoer’s staff at Fresno State in 2020 as safeties coach. He remained in an on-field role throughout the new Crimson Tide head coach’s tenure at Washington, serving as safeties coach and co-defensive coordinator with the Huskies.

Kane Wommack jumped to Alabama as DeBoer’s Tide DC. However, DeBoer said Morrell was playing a role.

“He did a great job for us at Washington the last two years, and coming in, he and Kane Wommack have really worked so well together,” DeBoer said. “I know the role has been as an analyst and a coordinator. We have other members that are on the on-field staff that are critical to our scheme and development and growth of our defensive side of the ball.

“But just another great voice, a guy that knows ball inside and out, and I’ll put him up there as one of the best -- if he was a coordinator, when he was a coordinator last year, the best in the country. To have that luxury now with so many great coaches in our program, it’s an awesome thing.” 

 

 

Kalen DeBoer speaks at SEC Media Days

 

[Cajun 11771]

^^That guy needs to either stock up on sunscreen or blood pressure meds.

Damn.

[Machinator 32102]

 

[LTtxfan 49909]

 

 

[Funk Doctor Spock 13121]

Surprised Justice Haynes isn't getting a nod. That dude will be a force for them. 

I'm holding out hope that Sark can use his Bama connections and lure Richard Young to add some insurance to our RB room since he's behind Miller and Haynes. Not to mention he's a FL kid. Kid is a nice RB in his own right. 

[Machinator 32102]

 

[Pdawg88 1156]

That’s sounds like a guilty man 

[Tex Long 4614]

The problem is that "somebody" calls up a guy and says "Hey, my buddy Bill told me Alabama is looking for a kicker. If you were in the portal, he heard they'd make you an offer you wouldn't want to turn down."

 

[LTtxfan 49909]

Wanted to motivate Bama by not picking them 

 "I picked Georgia and Texas because it’s reverse rat poison for Alabama. It’s a motivating factor for them not to get picked because I hated to be picked first or second because you don’t know how that’s going to impact your team psychologically. These kids are affected a lot by what they read, what they hear, what they see. I didn’t want them to see anything too good.”  

 

https://footballscoop.com/news/nick-saban-didnt-pick-alabama-for-sec-championship-as-reverse-rat-poison-benefit-to-alabama 

 

Edited August 24 by LTtxfan

[Frank Hammer 49]

8 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Wanted to motivate Bama by not picking them 

 "I picked Georgia and Texas because it’s reverse rat poison for Alabama. It’s a motivating factor for them not to get picked because I hated to be picked first or second because you don’t know how that’s going to impact your team psychologically. These kids are affected a lot by what they read, what they hear, what they see. I didn’t want them to see anything too good.”  

 

https://footballscoop.com/news/nick-saban-didnt-pick-alabama-for-sec-championship-as-reverse-rat-poison-benefit-to-alabama 

 

[boilerhorn 1602]

By telling them it is reverse rat poison, does it become reverse reverse rat poison?

If you tell someone you are surreptitiously trying to motivate them, does it become demotivating?

[Funk Doctor Spock 13121]

Debore will be a problem probably starting in year 2, but this year he's losing 3+ games. I hate to even admit it, but that dude with the elite talent he can now collect will be a pain in the ass. Don't they have something like  five or six 5 star recruits committed already? Christ. 

Edited August 24 by Funk Doctor Spock

[MirrOlure 15185]

[/url] Wanted to motivate Bama by not picking them 
 "I picked Georgia and Texas because it’s reverse rat poison for Alabama. It’s a motivating factor for them not to get picked because I hated to be picked first or second because you don’t know how that’s going to impact your team psychologically. These kids are affected a lot by what they read, what they hear, what they see. I didn’t want them to see anything too good.”  
 
https://footballscoop.com/news/nick-saban-didnt-pick-alabama-for-sec-championship-as-reverse-rat-poison-benefit-to-alabama 
 

I don’t think that’s how reverse psychology works…

[Funk Doctor Spock 13121]

He's a football coach, not a psychologist. It'll be interesting to see how he does on Game Day. I can't imagine he'll have the humor needed to make it interesting. But I'll see how he does. 

Big Noon Kickoff on FOX is superior. 

[Machinator 32102]

 

[LTtxfan 49909]

This funny now... 😋

 

Edited October 6 by LTtxfan

[LTtxfan 49909]

Tip of the hat to Vandy -- their offense was impressive in victory over Bama!!!

 

[LTtxfan 49909]

 

[LTtxfan 49909]

A real fan is smiling today...  

 

[Gucci_Suit 2809]

Can’t wait to see where KayLynn takes that program 

[ChiTownDoc 21323]

4 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

This funny now... 😋

 

Shit Nick would never say as a coach for $1000.  

[LTtxfan 49909]

2 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Shit Nick would never say as a coach for $1000.  

Yeah... TV stuff

[Butch Had Not 3053]

Damn... if sark didn't need the motivation to not look over vandy before this will do it. 

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 3542]

Hot take: DeBoer won’t make it to year 5. He’s not a good fit at all.

[tbone_ 14409]

Hot take: DeBoer won’t make it to year 5. He’s not a good fit at all.

He might not make it to Monday afternoon

[MAUFRAIS 6732]

Nevermind

[markstanco 12773]

Damn... if sark didn't need the motivation to not look over vandy before this will do it. 

This is also the case for every remaining game for vandy.

[WBT 20884]

Nick got out while the getting was good

[Wulaw Horn 19560]

17 minutes ago, WBT said:

Nick got out while the getting was good

Alabraska.  Clap clap clap clap clap. 

[markstanco 12773]

Hey Ryan Williams:

[nbmishoid 984]

Even Feinbaum is blaming Saban.   This is the upset of the decade.

[horn009 139]

Finebaum is accusing Saban of providing Vandy with bulletin board material since he said a couple of weeks ago that their stadium isn't hard to play in. It sounds like he is grasping for straws as he tries to find an explanation for Bama's loss. I think that there's zero chance that Bama would have lost to Vandy with Saban as the coach. 

[TheYoungHorn 95]

Saban's point still stands. 

There were more Alabama fans in the stands by a significant margin. It actually wasn't a comment about the quality of team. 

 

[horn009 139]

12 hours ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Hot take: DeBoer won’t make it to year 5. He’s not a good fit at all.

I have a feeling that he will end up being Alabama's Solich. Nebraska fired Solich after he went 10-3 because Osborne had set the standard so high there. 

[WBT 20884]

DeBoer is probably a top 5 coach.  I hope they do run him off.  Their reckoning was coming as soon as paying players became legal.

[Wilcox Cummingtonite 3542]

12 hours ago, WBT said:

DeBoer is probably a top 5 coach.  I hope they do run him off.  Their reckoning was coming as soon as paying players became legal.

No offense but top 5 based on what? His 3 championships in NAIA?
 

He caught lightning in a bottle at Washington 22-23 in a weak conference with Penix and some really good receivers and still didn’t win it all either year. I honestly like DeBoer as a coach but the drop off from Saban to him as a program CEO/culture guy is undeniably massive. I just don’t think he’s a good fit for SEC football or southern culture either. I guess we’ll see.

Lane Kiffin seems like a much better fit and someone who obviously knows the Alabama program, SEC culture, etc.

 

Edited October 7 by Wilcox Cummingtonite

[Funk Doctor Spock 13121]

On 10/5/2024 at 7:15 PM, LTtxfan said:

Tip of the hat to Vandy -- their offense was impressive in victory over Bama!!!

 

Great performance, but we're gonna go in deep without lube. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 13121]

On 10/5/2024 at 11:16 PM, LTtxfan said:

A real fan is smiling today...  

 

That kid deserves a key to tree city. 

On 10/5/2024 at 11:29 PM, LTtxfan said:

Yeah... TV stuff

Good job. Saban. Really a art to give them motivation. 

On 10/5/2024 at 11:52 PM, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Hot take: DeBoer won’t make it to year 5. He’s not a good fit at all.

Agree. He ia not fit for the SEC. He's a lucky motherfucker, but nothing about him is "elite" his game plan is for Milroe to toss it to Ryan Williams and Milroe to use his legs. That's it.

16 hours ago, markstanco said:

Hey Ryan Williams:

Add Justice Haynes to the list. He's a gamer, ans we need strong backs qbo hit the hole with speed. In case  Baxter/Clark aren't 100#. He's someone you don't pass on. 

Let's hope Sark makes contact and ans steala yet another Bama player or two. It's been a recurring theme, and I can see bun doing it again. 

I also hope he raids Georgia and asks about Justin Williams coming home. Same with DT Joseph Jonah-Aboye.  

Edited October 7 by Funk Doctor Spock

[Dennis Taylor 19284]

Is his house for sale yet?

[closetojumping 65245]

5 hours ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

No offense but top 5 based on what? His 3 championships in NAIA?
 

He caught lightning in a bottle at Washington 22-23 in a weak conference with Penix and some really good receivers and still didn’t win it all either year. I honestly like DeBoer as a coach but the drop off from Saban to him as a program CEO/culture guy is undeniably massive. I just don’t think he’s a good fit for SEC football or southern culture either. I guess we’ll see.

Lane Kiffin seems like a much better fit and someone who obviously knows the Alabama program, SEC culture, etc.

 

I think he’s pretty good. I damned sure would take the guy over Lane Kiffin. Kiffin’s ceiling looks pretty much like hovering around 10 wins at a low pressure locale like Oxford and never beating anyone of consequence. Maybe, being in Mississippi, he’s become a big Faulkner guy and this is performance art and he could go somewhere else and actually win something.  I doubt it. Deboer has accomplished more than Kiffin, regardless, and that shit can’t be credibly disputed.

No one wants to declare the death of Alabama as a national power more than me. I’ve done it on multiple occasions, dating laughably back to Shaggy. I hope we’re on to something here. That said, I think Deboer was the best hire they could have made under the circumstances.  His recruiting class doesn’t indicate a falter. Maybe they’ll shit themselves a few more times and it will portend the dawn of a better era for the rest of us CFB fans. 

[BurntOrange&White 41648]

22 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I think he’s pretty good. I damned sure would take the guy over Lane Kiffin. Kiffin’s ceiling looks pretty much like hovering around 10 wins at a low pressure locale like Oxford and never beating anyone of consequence. Maybe, being in Mississippi, he’s become a big Faulkner guy and this is performance art and he could go somewhere else and actually win something.  I doubt it. Deboer has accomplished more than Kiffin, regardless, and that shit can’t be credibly disputed.

No one wants to declare the death of Alabama as a national power more than me. I’ve done it on multiple occasions, dating laughably back to Shaggy. I hope we’re on to something here. That said, I think Deboer was the best hire they could have made under the circumstances.  His recruiting class doesn’t indicate a falter. Maybe they’ll shit themselves a few more times and it will portend the dawn of a better era for the rest of us CFB fans. 

I'll be interested to see how their recruiting is 2-3 years from now.

[MirrOlure 15185]

No clue what connection there is, if any, between Deboer and their DC, but I just looked at a snapshot of his resume…pretty weak: https://rolltide.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/kane-wommack/1578

Unless there’s some deep rooted relationship, he may be one and done, or at least moved to a “co” position with a proven commodity.

[Classic Rock 291]

He looks like he was on a bender when they told him they needed a picture.

[utexas8 1695]

Deboers records speaks for itself but we will see if he just got lucky like Lincoln Riley with the talent.

He could be a good coach but no one is going to be like Saban. He might be like a regular good coach. Loses here and there. Not elite.